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Teleconferência de Resultados da ADP do 1º Trimestre Fiscal de 2027: Projeções de Receita e LPA Elevadas

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A ADP registrou um forte desempenho no primeiro trimestre do ano fiscal de 2027, superando as expectativas com um crescimento de receita consolidada de 6%, expansão de margem EBIT ajustada de 130 pontos-base e alta de 13% no LPA ajustado. Impulsionada por sólidos resultados em Employer Services, PEO e ganhos na receita de juros de fundos de clientes, a administração elevou sua projeção de receita anual para cerca de 6% e o LPA ajustado para 10%–12%. A empresa destaca investimentos contínuos em transformação por inteligência artificial, como a plataforma Zone e o assistente ADP Assist, mantendo foco na inovação e na retenção de clientes.

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Destaques Principais

  • A ADP registrou um crescimento de receita de 6% no primeiro trimestre do ano fiscal de 2027, expansão da margem EBIT ajustada de 130 pontos-base e crescimento do LPA ajustado de 13%. As três métricas superaram as expectativas da administração para o trimestre.
  • A administração elevou sua projeção de crescimento da receita consolidada para o ano fiscal de 2027 para aproximadamente 6% e a orientação de crescimento do LPA ajustado para 10%–12%. A projeção de expansão da margem EBIT ajustada permanece em 70–90 pontos-base.
  • A receita de Employer Services cresceu 6%, tanto na base reportada quanto na base orgânica a câmbio constante. As novas contratações de negócios (new business bookings) atingiram um recorde para um primeiro trimestre, impulsionadas por serviços de aposentadoria, serviços de seguros, HRO e soluções de conformidade.
  • A receita de juros de fundos de clientes subiu 15%. A ADP elevou sua previsão para o ano todo em US$ 50 milhões, para US$ 1,59 bilhão–US$ 1,61 bilhão, devido a saldos mais robustos de fundos de clientes e taxas de reinvestimento esperadas mais altas.
  • A plataforma de serviços com IA da ADP, a Zone, atingiu 60% da organização de serviços, ante 48% no final do ano fiscal de 2026. No segmento de RH central e folha de pagamento para o mercado de pequeno porte (down-market), os contatos realizados por cliente caíram mais 7% em relação ao ano anterior.
  • O ADP Assist adicionou 100.000 clientes desde o quarto trimestre. A administração afirmou que aproximadamente 50 agentes de IA já estão disponíveis de forma geral, embora a monetização vá variar de acordo com o caso de uso e possa incluir adicionais (add-ons), aumentos gerais de preços ou cobrança baseada em consumo.

Principais Dados Financeiros

MétricaResultado do 1º tri do ano fiscal de 2027Comentários
Crescimento da receita consolidada6%Acima das expectativas da administração
Expansão da margem EBIT ajustada130 pbApoiada pela produtividade operacional e pela receita de juros de fundos de clientes
Crescimento do LPA ajustado13%Acima das expectativas da administração
Crescimento da receita de Employer Services6%Também de 6% organicamente a câmbio constante
Crescimento de pays per control de Employer Services2%A administração citou mercados de trabalho resilientes e contratações constantes por parte dos clientes
Crescimento da receita de juros de fundos de clientes15%Impulsionado principalmente pelo maior crescimento do saldo médio de fundos de clientes
Crescimento da receita total da PEO7%A receita excluindo repasses de margem zero cresceu 4%
Crescimento do número médio de funcionários alocados (worksite employees) da PEO2%Beneficiado principalmente por novos negócios líquidos e pelo impulso na retenção de clientes

Desempenho Operacional e dos Negócios

A unidade Employer Services registrou recorde de novos contratos (bookings) para um primeiro trimestre. Os serviços de aposentadoria, serviços de seguros, HRO e soluções de conformidade foram os principais impulsionadores. As ofertas globais tiveram um início mais modesto após um encerramento forte no ano fiscal de 2026, mas a administração descreveu a demanda geral e os pipelines como saudáveis.

A retenção em Employer Services apresentou ligeira melhora em relação ao ano anterior e superou as expectativas da administração. O indicador pays per control subiu 2%, com uma força descrita como ampla. A ADP citou resiliência nos setores de comércio e transporte, saúde, educação e serviços financeiros, enquanto lazer e hospitalidade desaceleraram modestamente.

A receita da PEO aumentou 7%, enquanto a receita excluindo repasses de margem zero subiu 4%. As margens da PEO ficaram estáveis, já que despesas operacionais menores compensaram o maior crescimento dos repasses de margem zero. A administração afirmou que os fundamentos subjacentes permaneceram fortes, incluindo níveis salariais e melhora sequencial no crescimento de funcionários alocados.

A implementação de IA continuou a apoiar a produtividade operacional. A Zone expandiu para 60% da força de trabalho de serviços da ADP, ante 48% no final do ano fiscal de 2026. Na operação de RH central e folha de pagamento voltada ao pequeno mercado (down-market), os contatos por cliente caíram 7% em relação ao ano anterior, após uma redução de 8% ao longo do ano fiscal de 2026. A administração espera que a versão de vendas da Zone alcance todos os vendedores da América do Norte até o final do ano fiscal.

O ADP Assist adicionou 100.000 clientes desde o quarto trimestre. O agente de entrevista por IA para recrutamento (Recruiting AI Interviewer Agent) realizou mais de 4.400 entrevistas desde o início de setembro, reduzindo em 75% o tempo relacionado a entrevistas. Mais da metade dessas entrevistas ocorreu fora do horário comercial normal.

A ADP também expandiu a disponibilidade do Lyric HCM para empresas com sede no Reino Unido, França, Alemanha e Holanda. A administração afirmou que a integração do WorkForce Suite nas plataformas da ADP, incluindo o Workforce Now, está concluída.

No mercado de pequenas empresas, a ADP anunciou o PNC Payroll by ADP. A parceria vai embutir serviços de folha de pagamento, RH, controle de ponto, seguros e aposentadoria na plataforma de banco digital do PNC Bank. A administração também indicou que outras oportunidades de parcerias integradas permanecem no pipeline.

Orientação da Administração

Projeções para o ano fiscal de 2027Perspectiva atualizada
Crescimento da receita consolidadaAproximadamente 6%
Expansão da margem EBIT ajustada70–90 pb
Crescimento do LPA ajustado10%–12%
Alíquota efetiva de impostoAproximadamente 23%
Crescimento da receita de Employer ServicesAproximadamente 6%
Crescimento das novas contratações (bookings) de Employer Services4%–7%
Retenção de Employer ServicesQueda de 10–30 pb
Crescimento de pays per control de Employer ServicesAproximadamente 1%
Crescimento do saldo médio de fundos de clientes4%–5%
Rendimento médio da carteira de fundos de clientesAproximadamente 3,8%
Receita de juros de fundos de clientesUS$ 1,59 bilhão–US$ 1,61 bilhão
Crescimento da receita total da PEO5%–7%
Crescimento da receita da PEO excluindo repasses de margem zero3%–5%
Crescimento do número médio de funcionários alocados da PEOAproximadamente 2%

A administração manteve a perspectiva de margem EBIT ajustada, apesar do desempenho mais forte no primeiro trimestre e das expectativas mais altas de juros sobre fundos de clientes. A empresa planeja reter parte do benefício de produtividade e receita para financiar a transformação em IA, desenvolvimento de produtos, infraestrutura em nuvem e a expansão de ofertas globais e para o mercado corporativo de grande porte (upmarket).

A perspectiva de receita de Employer Services inclui um impacto cambial negativo de quase 0,5 ponto percentual, em comparação com um vento a favor cambial de aproximadamente 1 ponto no ano fiscal de 2026.

Riscos e Pontos de Atenção

  • A ADP espera que a retenção de Employer Services caia de 10 a 30 pontos-base no ano fiscal completo, apesar de um primeiro trimestre melhor do que o esperado.
  • Espera-se que o câmbio reduza o crescimento da receita de Employer Services no ano fiscal de 2027 em quase 0,5 ponto percentual.
  • As ofertas globais começaram o ano de forma mais modesta, após fortes contratações (bookings) no quarto trimestre do ano fiscal de 2026.
  • As contratações de Employer Services concentram-se tipicamente no segundo semestre, em particular no quarto trimestre, tornando o desempenho de todo o ano dependente da execução no período final.
  • Espera-se que alguns grandes contratos de folha de pagamento do Lyric e globais comecem a contribuir no final do ano fiscal de 2027 ou no ano fiscal de 2028 devido aos prazos de implementação.
  • A projeção da PEO permanece sujeita a incertezas em relação às tabelas estaduais do seguro-desemprego, que a administração espera receber por volta de dezembro ou janeiro.

Destaques das Perguntas e Respostas dos Analistas

Monetização de IA: A administração afirmou que a precificação será baseada no valor econômico entregue. Novas funcionalidades podem gerar itens de cobrança separados ou upsells, enquanto melhorias em serviços existentes podem ser capturadas por meio de aumentos gerais de preços. Plataformas principais, como o Lyric, usam prioritariamente precificação previsível por funcionário por mês ou por ciclo de pagamento, enquanto o API Central e alguns produtos de dados e conformidade usam modelos baseados em consumo.

Alocação de margem: A ADP manteve inalterada sua orientação de expansão de margem de 70–90 pontos-base. A administração informou que o indicador pays per control proporcionou um benefício de margem relativamente pequeno no trimestre, enquanto a receita do float e a produtividade operacional foram mais importantes. Parte do ganho adicional será reinvestida para apoiar o crescimento futuro.

Cenário trabalhista: A administração continuou caracterizando o ambiente como "pouca contratação, pouca demissão", em vez de "nenhuma contratação, nenhuma demissão". As contratações por clientes se mantiveram estáveis, sustentando o aumento da orientação anual de crescimento do pays per control em Employer Services para aproximadamente 1%.

Prazos da receita corporativa: A administração disse que a conversão do backlog está progredindo, mas que as fortes contratações do segmento corporativo do ano fiscal de 2026 têm maior probabilidade de contribuir em direção ao final do ano fiscal de 2027, com algumas implementações maiores se estendendo para o ano fiscal de 2028. Ofertas de conversão de receita mais rápida, como serviços de aposentadoria, serviços de seguros e soluções menores de HRO, estão sustentando o crescimento do ano atual.

Impulso na PEO: A administração atribuiu a melhora nos funcionários alocados principalmente às novas contratações líquidas de negócios menos as perdas de clientes, com uma contribuição menor do pays per control. A expectativa é de que diferenças de tempo no reconhecimento de receitas de impostos estaduais tornem a comparação do segundo trimestre mais fácil do que a do primeiro trimestre.

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Transcrição completa da teleconferência de resultados

Comentários da administração

Operator

Good morning. My name is Michelle, and I'll be your conference operator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to ADP's First Quarter Fiscal 2027 Earnings Call. I would like to inform you that this conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]

I will now turn the conference over to Matt Keating, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Matthew Keating

Thank you, Michelle, and welcome everyone to ADP's First Quarter Fiscal 2027 Earnings Call. Participating today are Maria Black, our President and CEO; and Peter Hadley, our CFO. Earlier this morning, we released our results for the quarter. Our earnings materials are available on the SEC's website and our Investor Relations website at investors.adp.com, where you will also find the investor presentation that accompanies today's call.

During our call, we will reference non-GAAP financial measures which we believe to be useful to investors and that exclude the impact of certain items. A description of these items along with a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to their most comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release. Today's call will also contain forward-looking statements that refer to future events and involve some risk. We encourage you to review our filings with the SEC for additional information on factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations.

I'll now turn it over to Maria.

Maria Black

Thank you, Matt. This morning, we reported strong first quarter results with revenue growth, adjusted EBIT margin expansion and adjusted EPS growth, all exceeding our expectations. These results reflect the critical role of ADP in an evolving world of work. Employers today are redesigning how it gets done. They are navigating a way of AI-related change and making workforce decisions that carry real consequences for real people. What has not changed, however, is what they need from ADP, a trusted partner.

For the last few quarters, I've spoken about the 5 structural advantages that make us purpose-built for this challenge. These advantages are core to our strategic priorities and serve as key differentiators for how we will continue to win in the market. Going forward, I will share our updates tied to these long-standing structural advantages.

First is our industry-leading data. We know that AI is only as good as the data it's trained on. With 1.1 million clients supporting over 42 million workers across roles, industries and geographies, we have one of the largest sources of real-time workforce data in the world, providing unparalleled insights into the workforce and its emerging trends. This unique perspective means we have a new responsibility in the AI era, not only to design HR and payroll solutions for people but to help design the best possible future of work with people at the center.

We are also using our data to fuel best-in-class innovation. Our massive global workforce data platform and decades of expertise have been optimized into an intelligence foundation that powers our AI capabilities at scale with security, privacy and compliance built in from the ground up.

Bringing me to our next structural advantage, our brand trust and responsible approach to AI. ADP is actively building across the full life cycle of AI and HCM, from AI that assists people with tasks to AI that facilitates an entire function end-to-end with human oversight to AI that orchestrates work across domains and systems to support enterprise transformation.

ADP is advancing and embedding each AI use case in our products and in how our teams operate. A perfect example of this is ADP Assist, which has crossed from early adoption into broad use, becoming more deeply embedded into workflows and driving measurable impact. Since the fourth quarter alone, we have added 100,000 more clients on ADP Assist. Most importantly, that scale is translating into real outcomes.

The recently launched Recruiting AI Interviewer Agent in ADP Lyric runs call handling, scheduling and note taking, so recruiters can stay focused on their strongest candidates. More than 4,400 AI interviews have been completed since the start of September with a 75% reduction in interview-related time spent and more than half of those interviews were captured after hours ensuring businesses don't miss out on strong candidates regardless of when they apply.

Candidates themselves are responding well with the recruiting agent earning high satisfaction scores. We are also offering new tools that enable our clients to build secure, intelligent and integrated workflows with their preferred AI agents. We've made a significant expansion to ADP API Central, which allows our clients' developers to access new model context protocol or MCP, servers and AI tools in addition to standards-based APIs. This enhanced offering addresses a growing challenge for organizations adopting AI, connecting AI agents and applications to trusted workforce data securely and at scale.

Through API Central, developers and business teams can now connect workforce data with the AI experiences that employees and managers use every day, enabling organizations to work in a more connected manner, innovate faster and act more efficiently with less risk. These examples are evidence of how AI is removing friction from the most consequential moments in the payroll and HR cycle while enhancing rather than replacing the role that people play.

Our third structural advantage is our trusted service model. Our clients are being exposed to more tools, more AI and more regulation and with all of it, more complexity. Every new platform, AI tool and regulatory requirement creates another decision, another integration, and another risk. Our clients want innovation, not the implementation headaches that come with fragmented solutions. Through all of the change, they need a partner they can trust to help them deliver on their promises to their people, and that is exactly what we show up to do every day.

This impact is clearly reflected in how our clients are deploying ADP Lyric HCM across their organizations. For example, one of the largest education management companies in the United States was experiencing rapid growth, operational complexity and the national teacher shortage. They needed to quickly modernize their people infrastructure, and they chose to implement ADP Lyric HCM. Through a comprehensive optimization of the recruiting and HR workflows, and we helped this client simplify requisitions, digitize approvals and standardize offer processes, resulting in a 35% reduction in time to fill positions.

ADP Lyric HCM is also helping further expand our global scale and reach, another one of our key structural advantages. This quarter, we were pleased to announce the expansion of ADP Lyric HCM across key European markets with availability now for companies headquartered in the United Kingdom, France, Germany and the Netherlands. This is much more than a product release as AI evolves work, managing people across countries has become even more demanding and building a platform that genuinely works across borders with localized payroll compliance, local labor law, local tax treatment, local data privacy requirements, all embedded at the infrastructure level, that takes decades of investment in local presence.

You can't replicate it from the outside. ADP has been building it for 77 years. And we are fortunate to work with a diverse and highly integrated ecosystem of partners who make it possible, many of whom I got to speak with last week at our 21st Annual Global Partner Convention. These partners help bridge the final mile and create a consistent global experience, combining on-the-ground local knowledge and specialized expertise with ADP's technology to deliver solutions that meet our clients exactly where they are. But this scale doesn't only support our multinational clients, it also helps Main Street.

As small businesses increasingly seek integrated technology experiences, we continue to expand our ability to help them manage essential financial and employee operations through a single digital approach. Today, I am proud to announce that we have expanded our embedded payroll offering through a new partnership with PNC Bank, one of the largest financial services institutions in the United States. Through this partnership, we will bring ADP's payroll and HR capabilities directly into PNC's digital banking platform. This new offering, PNC Payroll by ADP will give small business banking customers access to payroll, HR, time tracking, insurance and retirement solutions directly through their digital banking platform. This will help reduce operational complexity, making it easier for small businesses to manage critical needs like cash flow, payments, compliance and payroll. The offering is designed to support businesses as they grow from start-ups and one person operations to more established companies looking to scale.

Our final structural advantage is the 77 years of deep domain expertise that only we can provide to our clients. As the compliance landscape grows more complex, we are helping our clients stay ahead with our earned expertise that AI cannot replicate.

For example, a long-standing aviation and aerospace client was struggling to manage complex ACA requirements with their internal resources. This gap resulted in numerous compliance-related errors. Our team identified the underlying issue and brought on ADP's Health Compliance managed services offering to help by transitioning ACA administration to ADP's compliance specialists. The client gained dedicated expertise, reduced its risk exposure and established a more reliable and scalable compliance model.

This is a strong example of how ADP's deep expertise can identify risk, solve business challenges and expand the value of a client relationship that has lasted more than 3 decades.

What we are sharing today is a journey that's gaining momentum Adoption is growing and client value is becoming more tangible. That value is the foundation of the financial story we're building. And as we continue to scale our AI tools across the business, we expect that story to come into sharper focus.

There is a lot of conversation right now about what AI means for work. Some of it is speculative. But what we know from serving more than 1 million businesses and tens of millions of people they employ, is that managing a workforce is far more complex than it appears from the outside. Payroll must be right every time for every person and getting it right requires more than following a process. It requires understanding an ever-changing regulatory environment, managing situations that no process can fully anticipate and knowing the consequences when something goes wrong.

Compliance can't be approximate. The moments where employers make decisions about people's livelihoods require judgment, trust and accountability, not just automation. That is precisely why clients come to ADP and why they stay. We are building AI that makes those consequential moments better, not AI that treats them as problems to eliminate. That distinction matters deeply and we believe the market will continue to recognize it.

Before I turn it over to Peter, I want to take a moment to recognize our associates across ADP, who serve our clients every day. Every capability we build, every partnership we form, every metric we report, it only matters because of the people who bring it to life in real moments with real clients. Their expertise and their commitment is what makes everything else possible, and I could not be prouder of this team.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Peter.

Peter Hadley

Thank you, Maria, and good morning, everyone. I will start by providing some more color on our first quarter results, and I'll then update our fiscal 2027 outlook. This morning, we reported strong first quarter results that included 6% revenue growth, 130 basis points of adjusted EBIT margin expansion and 13% adjusted EPS growth. These results were ahead of our expectations for the quarter, and we remain pleased with the continued strong momentum that we have across the business.

In particular, we were pleased with the robust underlying revenue growth that we delivered in the quarter as well as the strong margin expansion performance on an ex float basis. Our ongoing commitment to a disciplined investment approach is enabling us to continue to make strong progress on our AI transformation across our products and our client-facing operations, while at the same time, deliver on our financial objectives.

As we exited fiscal '26, the Zone, our proprietary AI infused service platform that is transforming how our service teams work was deployed to 48% of our overall service population. As we exited Q1, that number had grown to 60%, and we continue to track ahead of our deployment plans.

I'd now like to share an example of how the Zone, together with ADP Assist is making a real difference to our operational productivity levels. In our down-market, core HR and payroll business, where the Zone has been fully deployed to all service associates, we saw a further 7% reduction in contacts per client handled by the service teams on a year-over-year basis in Q1 fiscal '27. This is in addition to the 8% reduction that we were able to drive in contacts per client handled by that same team across full year fiscal '26.

This degree of improved operating efficiency when viewed against the tens of millions of service contacts that ADP takes across the entire enterprise each year gives us continued confidence in our ability to drive further meaningful improvements in operational productivity, manifesting in both a superior client experience and financial benefit to ADP as we continue to reduce our cost to serve. This strong business momentum, alongside an improving outlook for client funds interest is enabling us to lift our full year guidance, and I will share more details on this now as we move through the segment level information.

Let me begin with our Employer Services segment, where I will cover both our results and our updated outlook. ES segment revenue increased 6% on both a reported basis as well as on an organic constant currency basis in the first quarter. We were pleased to deliver another record ES new business bookings results for the first quarter. We were particularly pleased with the contributions from our retirement services and insurance services businesses, our ES HRO offerings as well as our compliance solutions offerings, while we did see a softer start for our global offerings following the strong finish we experienced in FY '26.

Overall, our pipelines are in good shape. The demand environment continues to remain healthy, and we are maintaining our 4% to 7% full year growth guidance. ES revenue retention improved slightly versus the prior year coming in ahead of our expectations. As it is early in the fiscal year, we are maintaining our forecast for a 10 to 30 basis point decline in full year retention. ES pays per control growth of 2% for the first quarter also came in ahead of our expectations.

Labor markets continue to demonstrate resiliency and we have seen our clients continuing to hire at a steady pace. As a result, we now forecast pays per control growth of around 1% for fiscal 2027, which is an improvement on our prior outlook of 0% to 1% growth.

Client funds interest revenue increased 15% in the first quarter, coming in above our expectations, mainly due to stronger average client funds balances growth. We have now lifted our average client funds balances growth outlook to a range of 4% to 5% in fiscal 2027.

In addition, interest rates across the yield curve have risen since our last update, increasing our expected reinvestment rate for the balance of the year. Based on this dynamic, we now forecast a fiscal 2027 average yield on our client funds portfolio of about 3.8%. As a result of our raised average client funds balances growth and raised yield expectations, we have increased our full year client funds interest revenue forecast by $50 million to a range of $1.59 billion to $1.61 billion. We are also raising our outlook for the net impact from our extended investment strategy by $45 million to the same range of $1.59 billion to $1.61 billion.

As a result of these changes, we now expect fiscal 2027 Employer Services revenue growth of about 6%. As a reminder, we continue to expect some headwinds from unfavorable FX in fiscal '27. This full year ES revenue growth outlook contemplates close to 0.5 point of FX headwind in FY '27, which compares with the tailwind of about 1 point that FX provided to ES revenue growth in fiscal '26.

ES margins increased 130 basis points in Q1, reflecting both the operational productivity improvements that we continue to realize across the business as well as the contribution from client funds interest revenue growth.

Turning now to the PEO segment. Total PEO revenue increased 7% in the first quarter with PEO revenue excluding zero-margin pass-throughs, growing 4%. Average worksite employees grew 2% in the quarter, while PEO pays per control growth continued to improve modestly for the second consecutive quarter. We continue to expect total PEO revenues to grow by 5% to 7%. PEO revenue, excluding zero-margin pass-throughs, to grow by 3% to 5% and average worksite employee growth of about 2% in fiscal '27. PEO margins were flat in the first quarter as lower operating expenses offset the impact of higher zero-margin pass-through growth.

Putting it all together, we are pleased to increase our fiscal 2027 consolidated revenue outlook to about 6% growth, while maintaining our forecast for adjusted EBIT margin expansion of 70 to 90 basis points. We continue to expect our effective tax rate to be around 23% for the year. We also now forecast fiscal 2027 adjusted EPS growth of 10% to 12% supported by share repurchases.

Overall, we are pleased with the progress that we have made at the start of fiscal '27, and we remain laser-focused on driving growth in our new business bookings and maintaining strong client satisfaction and retention levels. Our continued investment in our products, our people, and our AI capabilities sets us up to deliver sustainable revenue growth, margin expansion and shareholder returns over time. We are committed to maintaining our momentum and look forward to sharing further updates as we continue to deliver on our strategic priorities.

Thank you, and I'll now turn it back to the operator for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Tien-Tsin Huang with JPMorgan.

Perguntas e respostas

Tien-Tsin Huang

Maria, I thought -- if you don't mind, I was going to ask on the PNC deal. First, just thinking about how that came together if that's a Cash Flow Central deal? Or is that something different? And is there a pipeline of more bank partnerships that we might expect coming from ADP?

Maria Black

Thank you. Really excited about this question. I appreciate you asking it because we're incredibly excited about this win, with PNC Payroll. This announcement is something that really extends the overall embedded strategy that we've had. I think we've been talking about that quite a bit over the last couple of years, specifically with you actually as well as it relates to this ecosystem approach and really embedding our offerings into others' ecosystems and having others' ecosystems embedded into our offerings.

This announcement is specifically putting ADP Payroll inside of the digital banking platform of PNC. So we're really excited about this. PNC, as you know, serves millions of small businesses, alongside retail customers, has about 2,300 branches and all sorts of digital channels. This is a big win for us. It speaks volumes to our ability to execute on the strategy within embedded. But the big difference with ADP is this ability to continue to stretch into the upper end of that down market and the ability to not just offer the tech solutions with our payroll platforms, but beyond payroll solutions such as insurance services, retirement services.

So it's the entire, call it, ecosystem of ADP in the down market that will be embedded into a PNC's digital channel. So really excited about this win. And really excited to extend the reach of our embedded strategy. And to your point, it is a piece of our strategic priority, and we continue to execute against it, and there's more pipeline alongside with it.

Tien-Tsin Huang

All right. Good. No, that's definitely a good one. Just quickly on the -- my follow-up, if you don't mind, just on pays per control for -- maybe for Peter, just thinking about that. And given that it's very high incremental margin, it doesn't look like you're changing your EBIT outlook. Maybe I'm just splitting hairs here, but is there any tie there between raising pays for control and no change on the margin front. Good to see, obviously, given always headlines around layoffs here and there, but any follow-through?

Peter Hadley

Yes, sure. Tien-Tsin, first we're pleased with the pays per control result in the quarter. I would point out that the compare was relatively easier in Q1. As you remember, last year, in Q1, we saw flat pays per control before things started to gain a little more momentum through the quarter. So I would consider this to be continued momentum more so than some sort of outsized performance in Q1. There is a contribution, obviously, to the margin. There are quite a few puts and takes, I would say, with the margin.

The float guide lift also helps drive the margin a little bit of pressure from FX more so on the revenue than the margin, but a little bit of impact there on the margin as well. But overall, on the margin, really the guide we're holding -- holding the margin guide consistent with last quarter at 70 to 90 basis points, we're pleased to increase our EPS guide from 10% to 12% on the basis of the higher revenue. But keeping the margin expansion guide at least where it is for now, we have plenty of investment opportunity in our business.

We're investing, as Maria was saying in the prepared remarks in things like AI transformation, but also other areas, product investments across the portfolio cloud infrastructure, scaling our upmarket and global offerings. So plenty of investment there, but also funding that through things like a little bit through pays per control, I would say more so through float and more so through productivity improvements we've been driving into the business, dropping some of that fell to the bottom line, putting some of that back into the business for future growth.

So we feel good about sort of where the margin delivery is sitting. We feel like on balance, that's in the best interest of shareholders to drop some to the bottom and to retain some to continue to invest in future growth opportunities. But -- and sorry, the pays per control piece is, I would say, a relatively small element of the margin pie this quarter.

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Jester with BMO Capital Markets.

Daniel Jester

Maria, a great update on all of the hard work your team has been doing on AI and getting new products into the market. Maybe you can just give us an update on your philosophy in terms of how we should expect monetization of all these new tools and maybe any sort of sense about what is embedded in guidance this year?

Maria Black

Yes, absolutely. I'll start. I'd like to add a couple of pieces to ADP Assist, because as you mentioned during my prepared remarks, I get really excited to talk about it. So I appreciate the question a lot, Dan. Thank you. And then Peter, if you want to talk about the monetization and how we're thinking about that.

I think the overall progress we're making with respect to AI and specifically ADP Assist is considerable. We already have about 50 agents that are in general availability and many of these agents, I would characterize several of these to be kind of true needle-mover agents for ADP. You saw -- some of the clip that Peter was referencing today in terms of the impact that those agents are making across our portfolio, both internally as well as inside of our product.

I mentioned, obviously, a few of them in my prepared remarks, around the interviewer agents and just the progress we're seeing there. The RUN assisted reporting agent that we have is also allowing clients to be able to query things in a natural language capacity to get really fast and simple answers for HR and payroll questions. So I think all of these agents are making real impact, and that's really our guide post.

You asked a little bit about monetization, which we'll get to, but how we're thinking about what agents to go after. It is really a long list of opportunity, but we are sequencing it in terms of solving real challenges in the market for HCM, for real clients that will drive measurable outcomes. And again, those outcomes are starting to translate into our overall financial algorithm.

So I think it's still early days, but I'm really pleased sitting here. It's almost hard to believe it's been 4 years since this entire conversation started, but I think we're at the point now where we're seeing measurable progress, again, 50 agents generally available with more to come and many of these being significant needle movers that really create value-based outcomes for our clients.

And in terms of how we think about pricing and monetization, on that I'll turn it over to Peter.

Peter Hadley

Yes. Thanks, Maria. Dan, value-based pricing is also -- or value-based approach is also what we take to pricing, Dan. So I mentioned that before, I think, on some of these earnings calls. But really, our philosophy is trying to make sure that ADP captures its fair share of the economic value of what's created but also that the clients also benefit similarly as they should from what we're providing, both from a functionality perspective but also in terms of the way we think about the economic pie.

So we look at each situation on its individual merits. I think the factors that really drive the way we decide to price is, is the situation -- is the individual situation we're talking about. Is this sort of new incremental functionality that we're providing? If that's the case, we're more likely to capture that through either a new line item on the invoice or through an upsell or an add-on upsell to that client.

If we're really enhancing existing functionality and a lot of what we're doing at the moment is also improving the existing ways we've been delivering services to clients for 77 years. The more likely way we would capture that would be through our general price increase or something along those lines. So it's really situation based. We have multiple ways we build, whether it's seat-based pricing or the equivalent of seat-based pricing per employee per month pricing, other methods of pricing, consumption-based pricing. So it really is situation dependent.

But we are definitely focused on making sure that the economics are fair on both sides for ADP and also for the client, given that we have long-term client relationships. We heavily dependent on our client base for around half of our bookings number as well as referring us in the case of new logo wins that we're going after. So it's a thoughtful approach, value-based approach, but certainly not something that we ignore. We spend a lot of time thinking about the right way to monetize and like I said, situation dependent can be incremental pricing, can be through general price increases.

Daniel Jester

That's really helpful. And then, maybe for my follow-up on ES bookings. Peter, I appreciate the context you shared around the quarter and some of the differences in the different business areas. Maybe could you expand any more about what you saw? And maybe can you comment about what you're seeing in maybe small businesses versus larger businesses? Any difference in terms of the momentum you're seeing there?

Maria Black

Yes. Perhaps I'll take the bookings commentary because I didn't get a chance to talk about it in my prepared remarks, and I always enjoy making a few comments. You mentioned kind of across the various segments. Peter did a good job of calling out some of the places we had strength, specifically in retirement services and insurance services, as you mentioned, small businesses. And again, I talked about that with respect to PNC and just kind of how we're seeing the ecosystem of small businesses navigate. But the strength that we have in retirement services and insurance services is something that, we've mentioned several quarters, a lot of that has to do with incredible execution by the team, but that execution goes beyond just some ecosystem approach and kind of this selling tech but also selling the beyond just simple payrolls in that market.

The retirement services offer, they've embedded things. New product, new offers, and that is coming to fruition and yielding tremendous results, whether that's through partnerships and new offerings to specific clients. It's all specific retirement optionality for some more small businesses or in the case of insurance services, they're really leaning into the product innovation road map by embedding things like ADP Assist to make things easier to actually serve clients and to actually bring on more clients through even in product marketing type of offers with the ability for clients to engage in those services directly.

And so, I think, it's great to see small businesses, engaging in our ecosystem that way. I think the other call-out that Peter made during the prepared remarks was around employer services, HR outsourcing and also the compliance solutions. I think both of those offerings speak directly to our structural advantages that I spoke to. Obviously, the HR outsourcing offerings, those are the most managed of all of our services and they really are that deep domain expertise and the beyond tech and beyond payroll offer and very unique to ADP in terms of what it is that we're able to do there for our clients. And again, solving significant things in a way that only ADP can do.

And then compliance solutions is, again, really about that final mile, again, a big structural advantage for us. I think overall, we were pleased to see that the first quarter was a record quarter. Peter did mention we had a bit of a softer start to the global side to the business. That's not that atypical on the heels of the incredible finish that we had in the fourth quarter. But I think across the market, I'm pleased to see the continued strength in retirement and insurance because it speaks volumes to just the strength of the small business environment right now and obviously excited that we continue to lean into our structural advantages, both in that beyond tech and managed services, but also the final mile.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird.

Mark Marcon

Maria and Peter, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about your philosophy just with regards to pricing some of your newer tools, like I had a chance to look even deeper at Lyric and ADP Assist at HR Tech. And those are pretty impressive. I was getting the impression that you were pricing most of that on a seat-based perspective, which basically gives the clients certainty with regards to where the pricing is coming out, but you also mentioned consumption-based pricing, where I know that's a friction point for some of your competitors.

So I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about your philosophy there and your ability to leverage some of your structural advantages to provide pricing in a transparent way that is more favorable to or more preferred by your clients?

Peter Hadley

Let me take the first part of the question, and then I'll pass over to Maria. But just in terms of methodology. So you actually phrased it very well, transparent pricing that customers can understand, rely on, not get surprised by is certainly key to our philosophy. And I would say we do have some consumption-based pricing. I would put that more in some of our compliance and data solution offerings. Maria spoke about API Central. Again, that's more of a consumption-based model.

But if we're getting into the core system of record platforms like Lyric, we'll use Lyric since you raised that as an example. That is more of a, I wouldn't call it what we do as a traditional seat-based model in terms of we're not really pricing based on, call it, using old terminology licensed users or the people who are necessarily accessing and working in the system. But certainly, on a per employee per month or potentially per pay cycle, per payslip basis. So on a volume basis based on, call it, the volume of the employees on the client's books, which, as you pointed out, is certainly more of a transparent and predictable pricing methodology that doesn't give surprises.

So I would say still -- and again, we have different pricing methodologies across different segments of the business. We go into the down market. we are much more heavily reliant on sort of fixed-base pricing, which again, is probably the most transparent pricing model out there. But when it comes to consumption-based pricing, so that's more in some of that, I don't want to call it ancillary but some of the add-on offerings we had in our data offerings and maybe some of our compliance offerings. But more heavily focused when it comes to the core SORs across the segment with respect to that transparent predictable pricing you were talking about. That's how I would sort of address the methodology.

I think Maria, you may want to talk about some of the other parts of Mark's question.

Maria Black

Yes. Listen, I'm happy to unpack a little bit around API Central. I know I talked about it during the prepared remarks, but it is an exciting piece to our business. Just kind of take everybody back to the genesis of API Central. It really started with our approach to ADP and the marketplace. We were the first HCM provider to put a marketplace out there. At this juncture, we have over 500 apps that are available to our clients to interact with through an ADP marketplace.

On the heels of that, we realized that clients want to call it, string things together in a non-technical term. So we launched in the last couple of years, API Central. Interestingly, I actually was overseas last week, and I had the opportunity to engage with the woman that invented API Central and I thank her, because it was quite genius and it just shows that innovation happens all across ADP, all across the globe.

But this ability to connect systems together in a governed telemetric way where you have complete access and authority determined by our systems and how to get that done as an imperative for just how work needs to get translated across from system-to-system. So that's kind of the traditional API Central. That is monetized, if you will, in a consumption way.

This quarter, in the prepared remarks, I added to that our ability now to do that via Model Context Protocol or MCP, that is the language of the agents. So if you think about APIs, as kind of the language of traditional ways of information flowing back and forth now that agents are performing autonomously some of that flow back and forth. They agreed upon Model Context Protocol or MCP, is now available within marketplace or API Central specifically.

And again, these are things that currently are being used by agents, by systems, across tools, and it provides the governance. The things that you would expect from ADP, which is knowing who's going into systems and accessing them and ensuring that they have the appropriate authority and protocols to do so. And so these are things we are investing in to ensure that we keep up with what's happening, but also keep our clients safe. And they are as -- they are in a consumption-based model today. And I think as it continues to evolve, we continue to think about, as Peter mentioned, ways that we need to appropriately price and allow our clients to consume these types of offers.

Mark Marcon

That's great. And then I was just wondering on the theme of continued modernization. Can you give us an update in terms of where WorkForce Software is with regards to the integration along with next-gen payroll and how deeply you're penetrating WorkForce Now with that?

Maria Black

Yes, absolutely. I'll comment on WorkForce Software, Lyric, global payroll and then we can touch on WorkForce Now as well. But I think you heard during the prepared remarks the extension of ADP Lyric into the global space. We launched that into the countries that I listed in the prepared remarks. That is kind of this global payroll offer with Lyric, WorkForce Software kind of in 1 ecosystem is exactly what that's referencing.

So in terms of integration, the integration is done. It's there. It's -- the WorkForce Suite is what we call it now versus WorkForce Software, still WFS, but that suite is fully integrated across all of our platforms, inclusive of WorkForce Now. And we're really excited to take that to market more specifically into our global space. And so that ecosystem makes ADP incredibly unique, as you add also, of course, global service as a capability and all of that. So we see penetration across the global space as it relates to WorkForce.

Now, we continue to see a go-to-market motion there that's yielding good results with respect to the overall, call it, time and time management system. A piece of that is the WorkForce Suite, but we also have other offers in the mid-market for Workforce Now. So really excited about that entire space for ADP and time and labor management really being that front door and front end, to payroll and that extension to our clients' workers.

So I think overall, we feel really solid about where we are with respect to the integration, the go-to-market motion of WorkForce Software, but all of it now is really in that WorkForce Suite and the overall time and labor management strategy for ADP has an offering across each of the segments.

Operator

Our next question comes from James Faucette with Morgan Stanley.

Michael Infante

Maria, it's Michael Infante on for James. I wanted to ask about some of the PEO trends in the quarter. I think when I look at the metrics on a sort of ex pass-through and workers' comp basis, I think it grew about 3% in the quarter. I think that was down 6% in Q4, but you obviously had to pick up in average worksite employee growth. Like if you sort of look at the revenue per worksite employee growth on that basis, I think it went from roughly plus 4% to just under 1%. So I'm just curious if there's anything you can share in terms of what's potentially driving the reduction in the revenue per worksite employee in the quarter and what you're assuming with respect to normalization and the metric in the guide?

Peter Hadley

Sure, Michael. Yes, we don't actually disclose the workers' comp revenue. So I don't know, you might be looking at the cost number that we disclosed in the earnings release. So I don't quite recognize the numbers.

What I can tell you is, we had a strong quarter in PEO. We did 7% in total. We did 4% ex zero-margin pass-throughs, but I would draw your attention to some, call it, timing differences we had last fiscal year with respect to some recognition of some state tax SUI-related items that landed in Q1 versus in Q2. So the relative compare in Q1, I'm talking on an ex zero-margin pass-through basis was more difficult in Q1 and a little easier in Q2. I think off the top of my head, we did 6% growth in Q1 last year ex-ZMPT, and we did 3% in Q2. So we expect that to normalize.

The underlying fundamentals, I think, with respect to the PEO. We're very, very strong. We were very pleased with how the business grew. We were very pleased with where wage levels are still holding up. And as you mentioned, worksite employee growth start to accelerate a little bit versus what we've seen in prior quarters on a sequential basis. So I think a good underlying story there with respect to the PEO.

We did hold the guidance where it is right now. There's still a lot to do, and we will not see sort of where the SUI tables come out with respect to -- it's a big part of our revenue in the third quarter. We won't see those until, call it, the December, January time frame. So we've decided to hold, I guess, out of prudence now with respect to the PEO guidance, but we did feel strong about the momentum and the acceleration and the momentum we saw in the underlying fundamentals particularly on worksite employees driving revenue. But I don't really see a sort of a reduced sort of ex-ZMPT revenue per worksite employee in the quarter. I think there's some anomalies last year that make the compare a little bit funky between Q1 and Q2.

Michael Infante

Understood. That's helpful, Peter. And then just for our follow-up. On the ES pays per control acceleration to 2% in Q1 and obviously raising the figure assumption to the high end. What's driving that underlying improvement? Is there anything you can share just in terms of how broad-based it is across customer sizes, industries, et cetera? And then maybe perhaps like from a broader macro perspective, like do you think we've sort of transitioned from what has previously been characterized as a low hire, low fire environment to something that's more like no hire, no fire? Or is that too punitive based on what you're seeing in the data?

Peter Hadley

Yes. On the latter part, I would say, no, I wouldn't agree with that. I think it still is a relatively low hire, low fire environment. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, our clients are continuing to hire at a steady pace. And when you look at sort of the overall macro factors, unemployment, 4.2%, the -- the Fed Governor called that out as more or less full employment. It's not surprising and where GDP growth is and what have you on a real basis, not surprising really, that hiring is continuing on at that steady pace side.

I don't really think a lot has changed. With respect to the industry verticals. We look at like 10 to 12 industry verticals. It's really -- there's obviously differences between some of the verticals like we've seen strength in areas like trade and transportation but also continued strength in healthcare and education as an example, also financial services continues to show some resilience. We've seen a little bit of softening in places like leisure and hospitality.

But generally speaking, I'm talking about pretty small movements between -- in terms of what's driving the strength versus the relative weakness within the vertical set. So in that summary, it's pretty broad-based across industry verticals. It's pretty consistent, steady. And again, the layoff numbers are at or near multiyear lows and the hiring volumes on a gross basis continue to come in at a steady pace. So we feel pretty solid about the 1% growth. That's what we delivered in Q2, Q3 and Q4 last year and obviously, on a full year basis, on average. As I mentioned earlier to Tien-Tsin, the first quarter compare was a little easier because of the soft Q1 last year, but which was sort of what manifested the 2%, but we feel like around 1% is a very solid guide. And what we're seeing is a continued healthy hiring environment, albeit at a steady pace.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jared Levine with TD Cowen.

Jared Levine

Just starting here, I wanted to talk about the WSE acceleration in 1Q, which was good to see. I know you called out a little bit of uptick in pays per control there. Just curious, did retention or new client sales also contribute to that acceleration? And I guess any updated thoughts across both retention and new client sales over the rest of the year would be helpful.

Peter Hadley

So with respect to PEO pays per control, yes, it was good to see another slight uptick. We had a slight uptick in Q4 last year on a sequential basis. This was another uptick again. I would clarify PEO pays per control is still lagging ES pays per control in terms of percentage numbers, but again, it's still, I think, pretty solid and pretty healthy.

In terms of what's driving it, I think it's the momentum in the business. We mentioned last quarter, we were pleased with the way the bookings went last year with respect to PEO. We had a very good retention quarter. The first quarter is not particularly meaningful in terms of either bookings or retention for the PEO, but the momentum coming into the year, I think, has certainly helped drive that PEO pays per control number up along with a little bit of -- sorry, the worksite employee number up as well as a little bit of lift from PPC. But I view that more -- I view the sort of the uptick in WSEs more coming from what we call net new business bookings less client losses with a little bit of help from PPC.

Jared Levine

Got it. And then to follow up. I mean, get a decent amount of questions on the margin guidance update here. So it does seem like you had some outperformance in 1Q just given prior cadence commentary. And then also now you have the flow and extended strategy upside, but you did a firm here. I guess, anything to call out in terms of conservatism, incremental investments in terms of why you still held that margin guide flat versus the prior guide?

Peter Hadley

Yes. I think it's still early in the year, we were very pleased with the first quarter results, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, came in stronger than we expected. So we were happy with that. We would be happy, obviously, if that were to continue and perhaps there's an opportunity to outperform. I wouldn't call that out though now we as I mentioned earlier to one of the questions, we do have a number of investments we want to make in the business. We're very thoughtful and we try to be very thoughtful about our capital allocation model and continuing to invest in the business for future growth as well as to deliver outcomes to shareholders in the present.

We feel like our margin mix is achieving that balance with this guidance. Again, happy to lift the EPS growth on the back of stronger revenues. And we haven't spoken as much yet about revenues in the call, but I feel like there is some real core underlying strength in revenues there is float uptick, but there is also FX headwinds that have increased versus our prior guidance, which is partially offsetting that float uptick, and it's really the core underlying revenues is helping drive both revenue growth lift but as well as earnings per share. The uptick in earnings per share that we shared, and we feel like the margin mix for now at least is the right way to allocate our capital between investing in future success and future growth as well as delivering to shareholders in the present.

Operator

Our next question comes from Samad Samana with Jefferies.

Samad Samana

First, just on the Zone and kind of the broad diffusion of that. I know, that you guys are seeing -- I think you mentioned that it's now deployed 60%. How do we see that get to 100%? Like what's the time line there look like? And how much leverage you can potentially drive whether that's measured in terms of productivity on the sales side or lowering cost to serve on the service side? Just how should we think about that in terms of when we're at 100% adoption? And then I have one follow-up.

Maria Black

Yes. Thanks, Samad. I'll start by talking about kind of the Zone and unpacking a little bit about our strategy there across, as you mentioned, just the sales side as well as the service side. And then, Peter, if you want to comment a little bit about how we're kind of seeing it into the financials and the productivity lift that we anticipate.

I think first and foremost, we're really, really, really proud and pleased to see how far we've come with the Zone. And so we spent a bit of the fourth quarter earnings call on the sales Zone, which is where we've had the Zone deployed the longest. And just to remind everybody, the Zone is a proprietary system that we've created to really infuse AI into our sellers as well as our service organization to yield exactly what you're suggesting, Samad, which is eventually productivity, but it's really about removing friction.

It's really about making it easier for clients to engage with us. And so I'm really pleased to again kind of reiterate what we talked about in the fourth quarter, which is the progress we've made in sales. At that time, I think we talked about almost call it, half of our sellers having the sales Zone broadly deployed.

We're optimistic that by the end of this fiscal year, we will have 100% of our sellers across North America deployed on the sales Zone. And you may remember that we talked about record ASP. It's hard to discern and unpack all the things that contribute to that. But certainly, our tech stack, our modern seller approach and the sales Zone being a big component of that, was a contributor, nonetheless and that ability to serve up the right lead to the right seller at the right time, the ability to provide knowledge, to onboard associates faster, the ability for coaching. These are all incredible things that the sales Zone is yielding.

And again, in terms of adoption, we expect that to be broadly deployed across our U.S. sellers by the end of the year. In terms of the service Zone, Peter spoke to that in the prepared remarks, we have now deployed it across 60% of our service organization, it was 48%. So that gives you kind of the clip by which we're executing. As I always say, we're not ever going fast enough for my liking, but we are also making sure that we're incredibly thoughtful as we deploy these tools across our ecosystem to ensure that we continue to make the progress, not just on productivity but also on service capabilities and experience and that commitment that we have to our clients. So we continue to make significant progress on both the sales Zone as well as the service Zone in terms of how that's showing up in the financials.

I think Peter made a couple of comments in line with that during the prepared remarks, so I'll let him touch base on that.

Peter Hadley

Yes. I mean just quickly, Samad. I think when it comes to sales, it's really about sales force effectiveness as opposed to some sort of cost efficiency play really trying to make our sellers and equip our sellers in the best possible way to chase the right opportunities, to maximize their chances of success and to win deals. It's really the net summary, if you like, of the sales force opportunity, the sales Zone opportunity.

When it comes to the service Zone, I would call it sort of a dual approach in terms of lifting client experience is not purely all about productivity and sort of margin type initiatives. It's really about enhancing the client experience, reducing and removing any potential friction areas in the process, making life easier for our clients, but also making life easier for our associates.

And again, best equipping them so that they can -- we can properly face them off, if you like, against the volume of work coming from the client base and help drive efficiency there. So I mentioned the example in the downmarket, I wouldn't necessarily attribute the entirety of it to the Zone. It's a combination, as I said in my comments around some of the ADP Assist AI functionality. We're deploying through the product as well as the AI functionality that we're deploying through the Zone through the service rep on our side of the situation, so to speak. But all of that is, again, on the service side, designed to improve client experience and also increase efficiency and help drive operating productivity, which ultimately manifests in margin and also freeing up dollars for investment in further growth.

Samad Samana

Great. And maybe just one quick follow-up on the bookings. I appreciate that in any given period, it can bounce around, especially given the strong F 4Q on the global side. But just can you help us think through what you're assuming on the ES bookings for the rest of the year, then as a result or maybe just a shape of it, are you -- is that kind of got back to normal levels? And I guess, where would that put you in terms of tracking closer to the 4% or the 7%?

Maria Black

Yes, fair. So first and foremost, we are holding the guide at 4% to 7%. We do give a full year guide, not quarterly guides and quarterly commentary necessarily outside of just kind of what we're seeing in terms of the backdrop, I would say the backdrop is largely constructive. Pipelines feels solid. They support that 4% to 7% growth. I think we all are aware that we're incredibly back-half loaded as it relates to -- from a planning perspective always. That's kind of how the rhythm works.

Q3 is always incredibly big for us because of that January 1 calendar start that so many look toward as it relates to kind of what it is that HCM provides. And then certainly, we drive an incredible volume ourselves in our own year-end, which is in that fourth quarter. So those two things combined make the back half of the year significant for us. And of the back half of the year, it's really the fourth quarter. So I would say we feel confident based on kind of the market conditions as well as pipeline that the 4% to 7% is an appropriate guide.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jacob Smith with Guggenheim Securities.

Jacob Cody Smith

Maria, in the first half of last year, you highlighted a number of large Lyric wins and a significant global payroll deal we know enterprise implementations take time, but I think we're starting to get closer to seeing that broader momentum translate into revenue growth. which would be impressive given the scale of the ES business. Can you just talk about how go-live timing is shaping our expectations for the rest of the year? When it looks like ES growth should step up a little bit?

Maria Black

Yes, fair. And thank you, Jacob. I know you enjoy learning a lot about Lyric and I really appreciate your question is around just the momentum, and that's exactly what I would suggest that is, we are -- we have significant momentum in the market. Out at HR Tech, as you know, Lyric was a shining star as it relates to the overall HR community receptivity. It is the first product. We've been working and building this product for quite some time, and it is the first product that's really person based that is leaning into the opportunity of how companies are designed today and how they manage their workforces not just on a dynamic team's perspective, which is what we've been talking about for the last decade or so, but now really in the advent of new globalization and with AI, changing the complexity of work.

This is a very unique offer that addresses really that upmarket global space. So in terms of implementation, we continue to advance our progress on weeks to start. We've seen tremendous momentum year-on-year. You mentioned last year, the wins that we talked about in the starts I would suggest to you that we are making significant progress on bringing clients on board at a faster clip than we were perhaps a year ago, and we continue to fill the pipeline with the receptivity that we're seeing in the market of this offer really meeting the needs of today's buyers. So I would say pipelines are strong, and we continue to onboard faster today than we were a year ago in terms of when it will actually translate into the revenue.

I'll let Peter speak to that.

Peter Hadley

Yes, just on the cadence point, Jacob, you're right. Like the -- we sold well through out last year. So we have business going live throughout this year. The strong finish Maria was talking about is more of a back-ended revenue story with respect to FY '27, those deals coming live more likely at the end of FY '27, some of the larger ones even perhaps into '28, but we're supplementing that and some of the revenue strength that, like I said, the underlying core revenue strength I was talking about in the prepared remarks. We're supplementing it through strong starts in bookings and faster to revenue offerings like retirement services and insurance services.

So again, some of that underlying core revenue strength that we felt comfortable to help the lift in the ES revenue guide and the overall revenue guide, notwithstanding the FX sort of headwind that I was talking about. And obviously, there's the float contribution as well.

So all in all, I think backlog conversion is going well. We would expect some of that strong finish in enterprise space to land later in this fiscal year, early in FY '28. But good bookings momentum in areas that are faster to revenue like retirement like insurance, like some of the smaller end of the ES HRO businesses or the offerings are certainly helping drive revenue growth through FY '27 as well.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer portion for today. I'm pleased to hand the program over to Maria Black for closing remarks.

Maria Black

Thanks, Michelle. I appreciate it, and I appreciate everyone joining us today and taking an opportunity to hear directly from us with respect to everything that we think about. I can tell you, I wake up every single morning thinking about our clients, thinking about the world of work, how it's evolving. Work is one of the most important parts of the world, candidly, it's the most important part of people's lives outside of their families, it's their craft, it's their purpose. How work is organized, how it's compensated, how it evolves at this juncture alongside technology, these are questions that ADPers wake up every single day thinking about and every single day answering for our questions. And we take them incredibly seriously. We built it with responsibility in mind. We built it with our clients in mind, and we're super proud to play such an integral role in shaping the future of work that keeps people, their livelihoods, their dignity, their potential and their families at the center of this world. So thank you very much for the time today.

Operator

Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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