Duluth Trading (DLTH) - Teleconferência de Resultados do 2º Trimestre Fiscal de 2026: Expansão de Margem e Elevação do Guidance de EBITDA

Principais Destaques

• As vendas líquidas caíram 7,8% em relação ao ano anterior, para US$ 121,4 milhões, enquanto a Duluth Trading continuou seu reposicionamento promocional e anualizou os aumentos de preços do ano anterior.
• A margem bruta reportada expandiu 1.810 pontos-base, atingindo 72,8%. Excluindo US$ 16,0 milhões em reembolsos de tarifas, a margem bruta foi de 59,6%, uma alta de 490 pontos-base.
• O EBITDA ajustado aumentou de US$ 12,0 milhões para US$ 27,0 milhões. Excluindo os reembolsos de tarifas, o EBITDA ajustado foi de US$ 10,7 milhões, ou 8,8% das vendas.
• Os estoques caíram 15,5%, para US$ 125,2 milhões, enquanto o valor financeiro do estoque em liquidação recuou 43,1%, refletindo a racionalização de SKUs e a melhora no sell-through.
• A administração elevou a projeção do EBITDA ajustado para o ano todo de US$ 28 milhões-US$ 32 milhões para US$ 38 milhões-US$ 42 milhões, incluindo o benefício dos reembolsos de tarifas, mantendo a projeção de vendas líquidas entre US$ 540 milhões e US$ 560 milhões.
• A administração espera que as tendências de vendas do terceiro trimestre melhorem em relação ao 2º trimestre, seguidas por um 4º trimestre mais forte, embora as comparações com os eventos de liquidação do ano anterior venham a pesar sobre a receita do 3º trimestre.

Principais Dados Financeiros

Desempenho Operacional e dos Negócios

A Duluth Trading atribuiu a melhora subjacente da margem bruta a preços médios unitários de varejo mais altos, menos descontos agressivos e economias no fornecimento direto da fábrica. O preço médio unitário de varejo subiu quase 6%. Esses ganhos foram parcialmente compensados por custos mais elevados de combustível e taxas adicionais das transportadoras.

As vendas diretas ao consumidor sofreram pressão de uma conversão menor após o reposicionamento promocional e os aumentos de preços. Um avanço de 2,4% no valor médio dos pedidos e um tráfego no site 10% maior compensaram parte dessa queda. A penetração de vendas em dispositivos móveis aumentou 90 pontos-base.

A rede de 66 lojas físicas continuou a superar o canal direto. As vendas nas lojas no 2º trimestre caíram 2,4%, com menor tráfego e conversão parcialmente compensados por melhor disponibilidade de estoque e um aumento de 6% no valor médio dos pedidos. As vendas no varejo no primeiro semestre ficaram estáveis na comparação anual.

As vendas de produtos masculinos avançaram 0,5%, impulsionadas por peças de primeira camada e calças/bermudas de tecido plano, incluindo DuluthFlex Fire Hose e Double Flex Denim. As vendas femininas caíram 15%, em grande parte devido à racionalização de SKUs e menores vendas em liquidação. As vendas da marca AKHG recuaram 26%, com a empresa saindo de categorias de menor margem, como moda praia. A administração descreveu a AKHG como uma parte relativamente pequena do sortimento geral.

Os produtos principais, como Flex Fire Hose, Heirloom Bibs e Buck Naked Underwear, continuaram superando o desempenho geral da empresa. A administração também relatou fortes vendas iniciais (sell-through) para a coleção de outono e um momento inicial positivo com o lançamento no atacado da Amazon na metade de julho.

A qualidade do estoque melhorou, com produtos da coleção atual representando 85,4% do estoque ao final do trimestre, contra 14,6% em itens de liquidação. O valor financeiro dos estoques em liquidação recuou 43,1%, enquanto os volumes em unidades caíram 46,6%. A priorização do estoque no centro de distribuição de Adairsville e nas lojas aumentou os níveis de disponibilidade (in-stock) em mais de 600 pontos-base.

A rede de atendimento (fulfillment) foi reduzida de quatro centros para dois nos últimos dois anos. Adairsville processou 75% do total de unidades no 2º trimestre, uma alta de 230 pontos-base, enquanto o custo variável unitário geral da rede recuou quase 25%.

Projeções da Administração (Guidance)

A Duluth Trading manteve a projeção de vendas líquidas para o ano fiscal de 2026 entre US$ 540 milhões e US$ 560 milhões. A administração espera que o crescimento das vendas no segundo semestre fique entre uma queda de 2% e uma alta de 2%.

A projeção do EBITDA ajustado para o ano todo foi elevada de US$ 28 milhões-US$ 32 milhões para US$ 38 milhões-US$ 42 milhões. O intervalo revisado inclui o ganho de US$ 16,3 milhões com reembolso de tarifas, parcialmente compensado por investimentos estratégicos em crescimento e despesas mais elevadas com combustível.

A administração espera que as tendências de vendas do 3º trimestre melhorem em relação ao 2º trimestre, com avanços ainda maiores no 4º trimestre. O 3º trimestre enfrentará uma base de comparação difícil em relação aos eventos de liquidação do ano anterior, que geraram receita com margens menores. A administração projeta melhora tanto nas vendas físicas quanto nas online, com uma recuperação mais expressiva no canal online durante o 4º trimestre.

A alíquota de tarifa estimada para o segundo semestre é de aproximadamente 15%-16%, incluindo 12,5% no 3º trimestre e um retorno a alíquotas mais elevadas no 4º trimestre. Espera-se que os gastos com marketing se acelerem no 3º trimestre, enquanto os custos de transporte permanecem como um vento contrário.

A projeção de despesas de capital para o ano todo permanece em cerca de US$ 12 milhões, destinados principalmente ao software de fulfillment Manhattan Active Omni, ao Apple Pay e a investimentos em manutenção.

Riscos e Pontos de Atenção

• A atividade de liquidação do ano anterior criará um desafio na comparação da receita no 3º trimestre, mesmo com a redução de descontos sustentando as margens e a qualidade do estoque.
• A alta nos preços dos combustíveis e as taxas adicionais das transportadoras estão pressionando os custos de frete e os custos variáveis.
• A base de clientes encolheu durante o reposicionamento promocional, embora a administração tenha relatado maior valor médio por pedido, vendas por cliente, retenção e reativação de clientes inativos.
• As vendas da linha feminina e da marca AKHG permanecem sob pressão, enquanto a Duluth Trading racionaliza SKUs e deixa categorias de menor margem.
• A administração está retendo parte de suas reservas de caixa para lidar com as incertezas macroeconômicas e da cadeia de suprimentos, incluindo mudanças nas alíquotas de tarifas.

Destaques da Sessão de Perguntas e Respostas

A administração disse que a AKHG não é um impacto negativo significativo sobre as linhas principais de vestuário masculino e feminino por representar uma fatia relativamente pequena do sortimento. A empresa reduziu a marca a produtos principais selecionados e enxerga potencial de reconstrução no longo prazo.

Sobre as tendências trimestrais de vendas, a administração afirmou que o 3º trimestre deve melhorar em relação ao 2º trimestre, mas permanecer abaixo do 4º trimestre. A evolução esperada reflete atividades promocionais, precificação, marketing e condições de estoque mais comparáveis no final do ano.

A administração também enxerga novas oportunidades para melhorar o giro de estoque por meio da contínua racionalização de SKUs e de um sell-through mais forte dos produtos secundários. Ao mesmo tempo, planeja manter total disponibilidade contínua (always-in-stock) para os produtos principais para capturar a demanda nas lojas e no e-commerce.

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Comentários da administração

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to Chris Steffes with Duluth Trading Company Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Chris Steffes

Thank you and welcome to today's call to discuss Duluth Trading second quarter financial results. Our earnings release, which was issued this morning, is available on our investor relations website at ir.duluthtrading.com under news releases. I'm here today with Stephanie Pugliese, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Heena Agrawal, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks and then open the call for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that the comments on today's call will include forward-looking statements, which can be identified by the use of words such as estimate, anticipate, expect, and similar phrases. Forward-looking statements by their nature involve estimates, projections, goals, forecasts, and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements.

Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, those that are described in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and other SEC filings as applicable. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of this conference call and should not be relied upon as predictions of future events. And with that, I will turn the call over to Stephanie.

Stephanie Pugliese

Good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our second quarter fiscal 2026 results. I'm incredibly proud of our team for delivering another quarter of improved profitability and free cash flow. This accomplishment is a direct reflection of the team's commitment to operational rigor and financial discipline. By staying focused on our core priorities, we have not only stabilized our margins, but also generated the financial flexibility required to accelerate our strategic initiatives.

Our goals for Q2 were clear. We aim to drive improved profitability, maintain strength in our operational execution, deploy a marketing strategy focused on driving brand awareness and consideration, reduce our promotional reliance, and achieve a clean, healthy inventory position. I am pleased to report that we executed against each of these pillars effectively. Our operational excellence this quarter was most visible in our margin improvement and inventory management.

We executed a deliberate cleanup of clearance inventory, which is now down 43% compared to last year. This wasn't just about liquidating old stock. It was a reflection of the fundamental shift in our merchandising philosophy over the past year and a half. We have moved away from a broad assortment, discount-heavy approach toward a hero core product strategy. By reducing the total number of SKUs and focusing our buys on proven winners, we have created a leaner, more agile inventory position. This reduction in clearance reliance has a double benefit. It cleans up our balance sheet and protects our brand equity by reducing the need for the deep site-wide discounts that characterized previous years.

And the reduction in deep discounting this quarter allowed us to deliver nearly 500 basis points of operational gross margin improvement year over year. Turning to our marketing efforts. During the quarter, we saw strong response across our paid media channels such as Connected TV, Meta, and Search. In addition, our premium audio integrations, including host-read spots with Conan O'Brien, drove significant engagement and last-click revenue. We also continued our Max Gluteus campaign, tailored specifically for the folks who work their ****s off while leveraging key sports partnerships, including investments in the NHL playoffs.

And this coming month, to showcase our expansive Fire Hose collection, our marketing campaign will be featured across linear and CTV broadcasts during upcoming college football matchups. No fabric embodies the Duluth DNA quite like Fire Hose. And we're proud to reinforce our legacy, engage our customers, and spotlight the unmatched durability of these products. We continue to apply input from marketing results to go-forward actions. Key learnings from Mothers' Day and Prime Week enforced the critical need for full funnel media coordination and continuous brand messaging.

And we are applying these insights to the second half of the year.

Maintaining top of funnel brand presence ensures our hero products remain visible across all channels and create sales momentum leading into key promotional moments. We are ramping up our upper funnel brand investments in the third quarter to prime demand ahead of peak and capture early transitional shoppers. This will be coupled with amplified product storytelling across key events like Fall Grind Days and our Big Dam Birthday. Further, we are investing in AI capabilities across organic and paid media to maximize our discoverability and optimize our digital footprint.

All of these efforts center on growing our brand presence and ultimately increasing the customer fan base. As previously shared, our total customer base has contracted as we've reset promotions. We are investing in the underlying health of our customer file, and we have some proof points that we are building on. In Q2, customer average order value and sales per customer continue to improve over prior year, and through the first half of the year, retention rates increased and our Net Promoter Score is up 11%. Our reactivation campaigns are working and we re-engaged 9% more lapsed buyers in the quarter versus last year.

In addition to our efforts in our own stores and e-commerce to build awareness and engagement, our growth initiatives, like the Amazon wholesale launch, are showing positive early results, giving us confidence in growing awareness and acquisition in the long term and in new ways. Central to our continued success is our Build to Last strategic roadmap. We have completed the Seal the Foundation phase, which focused on stabilizing the business through rigorous margin protection and cost control. We addressed structural inefficiencies, right-sized our overhead, and established a leaner operating model that can better weather macroeconomic volatility.

As we move to Frame the Structure, we have more work to do, and we are shifting our focus to scalable growth. This next phase involves continuing the discipline we have put in place while investing in our customers, our core products, and our brand reach. We are beginning to build the systems and channels, leaning into our store performance, improving our own e-commerce experience, and piloting a wholesale presence that will create long-term profitable growth. We are no longer just fixing the basics. We are constructing the framework for Duluth's future as a multi-channel, durable, and functional work apparel leader, and it all starts with the products that our customers love.

Our focus on Core First is anchored in our product innovation and technical design philosophy. Core products like Flex Fire Hose, Heirloom Bibs, and Buck Naked Underwear continued to outperform the overall pace of the business last quarter. And new products like our Hellbent Work Pants and No Quit Utility Shirts are not just additions to the assortment. They represent the importance of our functional design. Our philosophy is built on solution-based workwear, identifying a specific pain point for the person who works their ****s off and solving it with superior fabric and construction.

The Hellbent line, for instance, utilizes advanced abrasion-resistant materials and articulated patterning that allows for maximum mobility without sacrificing durability. These innovative, durable products justify a premium price point and reinforce our value equation, that Duluth gear is an investment that lasts longer and performs better than the competition.

To support this product-led growth, we are continuing to evolve our marketing into a more sophisticated, full-funnel engine. We are balancing top of funnel brand awareness through high impact professional and college sports partnerships and premium audio integrations with lower funnel conversion efforts.

We are investing in AI-driven search capabilities so that when customers ask for items like the Best Work Pants, Duluth will ultimately be the first answer they see. Furthermore, our Duluth DieHards pilot is providing us with a wealth of actionable data. We are Learning how our most valuable customers interact with us across channels, allowing us to personalize content and offers to drive higher lifetime value and retention.

Now looking toward the back half of the year. We are excited about the opportunities in front of us to improve our sales trends and strengthen our customer file. Early sell-throughs from our fall lineup are strong.

Equally important, demand for our core products remains robust at higher margins. While we expect last year's heavy volume of low margin clearance sales will temporarily weigh on Q3 top line results, we are reiterating sales guidance for the full year. Our priority for Duluth now is to increase our voice in the marketplace through full funnel marketing, reaching new brand fans via new channels, and by delighting our customers at every interaction.

For this reason, through the remainder of this year, we will invest some of the additional cash from tariffs on the customer experience, improving our visibility with AI Search, strengthening our store team's ability to serve customers well, and telling our story of functional, durable workwear throughout the full funnel.

These investments are not just about the remainder of 2026, they are about positioning Duluth for sustained profitable growth for years to come. We are focused on delivering the back half of the year while setting our eyes on the Raise the Roof phase of our strategy in 12 to 18 months. We will continue to explore and invest in setting the stage for additional customer reach, specifically understanding our store potential and wholesale opportunities, and we will report on our progress in quarters to come.

In closing, we are prepared and energized to deliver on the balance of the year, to delight our customers this holiday season, to continue along our Build to Last strategic path, and to bring long-term profitable growth to this amazing brand. I'm grateful for the talented team we have to bring this to fruition. I will now pass the call over to Heena to provide more detail on our financial performance.

Heena Agrawal

Good morning everyone, and thank you, Stephanie. I am pleased to report our financial performance for the second quarter of fiscal 2026. Over the past 18 months, our team has successfully restored price integrity by completing a promotional reset. Through disciplined inventory and cash management, alongside enhanced integrated planning and execution, we have established operational stability. Our strategic focus, operational consistency, and agility in navigating macroeconomic headwinds have now driven 5 straight quarters of year-over-year gains in both net income margin and free cash flow.

Our results this quarter demonstrate continued underlying margin expansion, structural profitability, and a more robust balance sheet. Let me share our financial results and provide our updated outlook for the full fiscal year, starting with our results for the second quarter of 2026 with comparisons to prior year. As we continued our promotional reset and annualized price increases from 2025, we reported net sales of $121.4 million, down 7.8%, with improving quality of sales, underlying gross margin excluding tariff refunds, expanded by 490 basis points, and expanded by 1,810 basis points, including the impact of refunds.

Our net income improved by $17.1 million to $18.4 million. Our reported and adjusted diluted EPS was $0.50. These results include $16.3 million in tariff refunds received during the period, contributing $0.44 per share. Adjusted EBITDA was $27.0 million, an improvement of $15 million compared to $12 million in Q2 of last year. Excluding the impact of tariff refunds, adjusted EBITDA was $10.7 million at 8.8% of sales, driven by our continued focus on profitable sales coupled with lower overhead and enhanced variable cost productivity, partially offset by fuel cost increases and higher advertising investments.

Looking closer at our top line metrics for the quarter, as we continued our promotional reset and annualized our pricing strategy, net sales declined 7.8% to $121.4 million. Excluding the impact of wholesale, net sales decreased 5.4%. During the first half, net sales decreased by 6.2%, which was at the high end of our guidance range of minus 6% to minus 10%. Our direct-to-consumer net sales, excluding wholesale, were $69.5 million, a decrease of 7.6% as we completed our promotional reset and annualized price increases, resulting in lower conversions.

However, a 2.4% gain in average order value and 10% higher site traffic driven by increased marketing investment partially offset this decline. In addition, mobile sales penetration increased by 90 basis points. Our network of 66 retail stores delivered net sales of $51.3 million, a decrease of 2.4%. Retail store sales were impacted by lower traffic and conversion, partially offset by improved inventory availability and 6% higher average order values. Retail continued to outperform the direct channel, delivering flat year-on-year sales for the first half.

Regarding our newest distribution channel, Amazon, Duluth products have gained strong momentum since our mid-July launch, generating consistent week-over-week acceleration in sales. Men's product sales increased 0.5%, driven by strong cold demand in first layer and woven bottoms, including, DuluthFlex Fire Hose and Double Flex Denim. Women's product sales declined 15%, driven largely by strategic SKU rationalization and reduced clearance sales, while gross margin continued to expand. AKHG brand sales declined 26% as we exited low margin categories such as swimwear to improve gross margin, while cooling UPF selections and Shoreside woven bottoms delivered strong sell-throughs.

With fewer promotions and increased average prices, gross margin rate expanded across product categories and sales channels. In addition, excluding the impact of tariff refunds, underlying gross profit dollars grew in both the second quarter and the first half of 2026.

Gross margin rate expanded by 1,810 basis points to 72.8% of net sales. Excluding $16.0 million of tariff refunds, our Q2 gross margin was 59.6%, expanding by 490 basis points. This expansion was driven by our pricing and promotional reset, with average unit retails increasing by nearly 6%, along with cost savings from our direct-to-factory sourcing initiative.

These gains were partially offset by the impact of fuel price increases and carrier surcharge costs. For the first half of the year, underlying gross margin excluding tariff refunds was 58.7%, an expansion of 520 basis points versus prior year. Selling, general, and administrative expenses in the second quarter were $69.5 million, up $0.7 million or 1.1% compared to last year, deleveraging by 510 basis points to 57.3% due to a decline in sales. Advertising costs represented 10.9% of sales, an increase of 200 basis points, with an investment in increasing brand awareness.

Shipping and variable costs deleveraged by 60 basis points driven by higher fuel costs and carrier surcharges partially offset by continued savings from consolidating the fulfillment center network with the closure of Salt Lake City Fulfillment Center and store labor efficiencies. Overhead Corporate expenses were flat and deleveraged by 250 basis points, largely due to the decrease in sales and acceleration of incentive compensation accruals. Our ongoing operational discipline demonstrated by structural gains in fulfillment efficiency and prudent overhead management helped moderate deleveraging pressures and provided the flexibility to accelerate our brand-building initiative.

Inventory at the end of the second quarter was $125.2 million, a reduction of $22.9 million or 15.5% compared to prior year. Our inventory mix at quarter end was also healthier with 85.4% in current products and 14.6% in clearance goods versus 22.2% in the second quarter last year.

Overall clearance inventory dollars were down 43.1%, while units decreased 46.6%, primarily driven by right-sized buying and higher sell-through rates in seasonal spring-summer clearance items. Year-over-year inventory improved for the fifth straight quarter due to enterprise planning and SKU rationalization.

In addition, prioritizing inventory at our Adairsville Hub and retail stores improved in-stock levels by over 600 basis points. Our capital expenditures for the first half were $5.7 million compared to $9.7 million in the prior year, with investments primarily in the final phases of Manhattan Omni fulfillment software. We ended the second quarter with a stronger balance sheet and liquidity position. Cash and cash equivalents stood at $26.8 million with 0 debt on our asset-based lending facility versus $32.5 million of debt on the facility at the same time last year. This resulted in a net liquidity position of approximately $96.1 million.

Combined with our improved profitability, continued working capital discipline, and capital expenditure guidance, the business generated free cash flow of $13.0 million by the end of the second quarter, an improvement of $41 million compared to the same period last year. We continue to optimize our store fleet to maximize omni-channel sales in priority markets and improve profitability of the overall store portfolio. We have finalized 5 of our 7 store lease renewals for this year, with the remaining 2 under negotiation. Looking ahead, 10 store leases are scheduled for renewal in 2027.

Productivity across our store portfolio continues to trend upward, marked by an 80 basis point expansion in Q2 adjusted EBITDA margin and a 290 basis point gain year-to-date. Building on the 360 basis point expansion, achieved in the first half of last year, this reflects a cumulative 650 basis point margin expansion over a 2-year period across the first 6 months. Looking ahead to 2028 and beyond, as we lay the groundwork for our Raise the Roof growth phase, we are investing to refine and optimize the size and layout of our next-generation store format. Our supply chain transformation continues to deliver structural cost savings.

In the last 2 years, we have consolidated the logistics network from 4 fulfillment centers to 2. This has allowed us to maximize the return on our investments in the fully automated Adairsville Fulfillment Center, which crosses 75% of total units in Q2, an increase of 230 basis points from last year, while reducing our overall network variable cost per unit by nearly 25%. At the same time, optimizing our carrier network has allowed us to sustain nationwide click-to-delivery speed while partially offset the impact of rising fuel expenses and surcharges.

Looking ahead to full year fiscal 2026, we are updating our financial outlook by raising our Adjusted EBITDA guidance while maintaining our overall net sales expectations. We are increasing our full year Adjusted EBITDA expectations to between $38 million and $42 million, up from our prior outlook of $28 million to $32 million. This updated projection includes the $16.3 million gain from tariff refunds, partially offset by strategic growth investments and increased fuel expenses. We are reaffirming our full year net sales guidance of $540 million to $560 million. First half net sales were minus 6.2%, finishing at the top end of our targeted minus 6% to minus 10% range.

While overall second half sales performance is projected to be between minus 2% to plus 2%, we expect sales in the third quarter to moderate as we lap prior year clearance events that generated lower margin revenue. Our tariff rate for the second half of the year is assumed at approximately 15% to 16%, reflecting 12.5% for Q3 and back to the higher rates in Q4.

Within SG&A, we anticipate marketing spends to accelerate in Q3 compared to last year due to earlier holiday shopping demand, and we expect continued headwinds in transportation costs. We are affirming full-year capital expenditure guidance of approximately $12 million, behind investments in Manhattan Active Omni fulfillment software, Apple Pay, and maintenance.

We are allocating capital and strategically reinvesting our cash flow and tariff refund proceeds across key priorities. First, we are fueling brand growth with incremental second half marketing investments across connected TV, college football, and high conversion search channels. Second, we are funding long-term strategic initiatives, including retail store growth and wholesale partnerships to support the Raise the Roof stage of our Build to Last strategy for 2028 and beyond. Finally, we are being prudent in maintaining a reserve to counter macroeconomic and supply chain headwinds.

In closing, validated by 5 consecutive quarters of expanding margins and improving cash flow, our Q2 results demonstrate the success of our turnaround. Driven by margin discipline, optimized inventory, and strong cash generation. With the Seal the Foundation phase complete, we are focusing on Frame the Structure, capitalizing on our enhanced financial strength to invest in growth initiatives that drive strategic customer engagement and broader distribution.

Having transitioned our financial model towards higher structural growth margins, decreased fulfillment costs, and greater working capital efficiency, we are maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation and have clear financial levers to drive sustainable, profitable growth as outlined in our Build to Last strategy. With that, I will turn the call over for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Our first question comes from Dylan Carden with William Blair.

Perguntas e respostas

Dylan Carden

I'm curious if you can kind of spell out in guidance expectations for third quarter, why that takes a step back and maybe in that understanding kind of the drag of the Alaskan Hardgear business. In other words, sort of 2 quarters into that. Inventory reset, I don't think you've ever quantified it as a percent of sales, but just how big of a headwind is that versus sort of the core Duluth business?

Stephanie Pugliese

So Dylan, this is Stephanie. Good morning. I can start with the Alaskan Hardgear conversation, then I'll hand it over to Heena on your other question around third quarter and guidance. Alaskan Hardgear is a relatively small part of our assortment overall. What we're finding is that we've got some specific core products in Alaskan Hardgear that are doing really well. It was an area of the business that over the past several years, kind of fell victim, if you will, to the over-assortment, over-SKU situation that the total business had. And so we've pulled that business back to the essence, things like Stone Run Pants, for example. And we're rebuilding into that. But think about it as a small part of the business, something that we think has opportunity in the long term, but it's really not an overall significant drag to what we're trying to do with the core men's and women's apparel.

Heena Agrawal

Good morning, Dylan. On Q3 guidance, we expect the trend in Q3 to be better than Q2. However, we are not repeating some of the clearance events. As I mentioned in the call, our clearance inventory is down over 40%, both in dollars and units. And so that's the reason for moderating our expectations on Q3, but it will be an improving trend versus Q2.

Stephanie Pugliese

And I would categorize it, Dylan, as our reset really has been highly focused on the promotions that we turn on or trigger during specific time periods. And we're starting to lap that as we come into the back half of the year. That said, last year at this time. We were so heavily impacted by clearance and the negative from the standpoint of our inventory and our balance sheet and ultimately the margins. But it did generate short-term top-line volume for us, specifically in the month of August and third quarter, that is a headwind for us in third quarter.

Dylan Carden

Understood. So if I'm thinking about back half down 2, up 2, is third quarter worse than that? And I guess if so, help me understand the inflection then in fourth quarter. Is that... lapping clearance activity, is that sort of a marketing lag effect?

Heena Agrawal

Yes, so if you think about the minus 2 to plus 2 and the timing of the different quarters, every quarter improves versus the prior quarter. So Q3 better than Q2, Q4 better than Q3, and that is what gets us to the minus 2 to plus 2 for the second half versus the first half. Okay, but Q3, yes, lags Q4. Q4 will be better because there will be even more evenness versus last year when it comes to the amount of promotions, the pricing impact, the marketing impact, and the inventory situation.

Dylan Carden

And would you expect the recovery to be kind of led? I know it's further impaired versus the retail channel, but if you're doing all this marketing, wouldn't you expect the sort of the impact there to be mostly in the online channel, particularly as you lap the clearance activity? I know that's a higher clearance channel.

Heena Agrawal

Yes, we expect the improvement in both channels. And like you said, the improvement is greater in the online channel versus the retail channel, especially in Q4.

Dylan Carden

And sorry, last one for me. On inventory terms, if I kind of take it, the trailing 4 quarters are still kind of below 2. And I'm just kind of curious as you right-size the inventory here, the opportunity embedded in getting more efficient in turn.

Stephanie Pugliese

Thanks. Yes, this is Stephanie. I'll take that, Dylan. We do definitely see opportunity in the long term for improving inventory turns and to continue to SKU rationalize the business. That said, the other thing that was very important to us is, as you know, our core product. And I believe we still have opportunity in that core product to be in a never-out inventory situation so that when our customers come either online or in the stores, we know that we are satisfying that demand at the time of need. So we're also looking at how we right size and flow our core product in a way that satisfies our customer and just creates that better experience where we're in stock all the time.

So it's a play on the inventory around SKU rationalization, tightening down the or improving the sell-throughs, particularly on non-core products, and then an always in-stock position on core. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. That will conclude today's question and answer session. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.