MITT 2026年第3四半期決算説明会:ホームエクイティ拡大に伴い帳簿価額は7.3%減少
MITTの2026年第3四半期は、指標金利の上昇とスプレッド拡大により、1株当たり純資産価値(BVPS)が7.3%減の9.27ドルとなり、経済的リターンは-4.9%を記録した。普通株主に帰属するGAAP純損失は1,570万ドル、1株当たり分配可能収益(EAD)は0.21ドルで、配当を下回った。同社はホーム・エクエティ投資へのシフトを継続し、3億1,700万ドルを取得し証券化を実施した。経済的レバレッジは約2.0倍と保守的な水準を維持している。商業用不動産資産の処理と資本再配置により、2027年のEAD増加を見込む一方、市場変動リスクが課題となる。
主要なポイント
- 2026年第3四半期中に1株当たり純資産価値(BVPS)は10.00ドルから9.27ドルへと7.3%減少しました。指標金利の上昇とクレジット・スプレッドの拡大を背景に、下落の全容は9月に発生しました。
- 分配可能収益(EAD)は1株当たり0.21ドルとなり、直近で発表された普通株配当の1株当たり0.24ドルを下回りました。普通株主に帰属するGAAP純損失は1,570万ドル(1株当たり0.49ドル)でした。
- MITTは3億1,700万ドルのホーム・エクエティ・ローンを取得し、総額約12億5,000万ドルのホーム・エクエティ証券化を3件実施しました。期末時点の自己資本配分において、ホーム・エクエティは37%を占めました。
- 経済的レバレッジは1.8倍から約2.0倍へと緩やかに上昇しました。経営陣は、利用可能な手元流動性と未活用の融資枠を通じて投資を拡大する余力を維持していると述べました。
- Arc Homeの融資実行額は約10億ドルと前年同期比で約19%増加したものの、7月と8月の収益性が9月の市場変動によって相殺され、EADへの貢献はほぼトントンとなりました。
- 経営陣は、既存の商業用不動産資産の処理タイミングに応じて、資本の再配置により2027年に年間約0.15〜0.20ドルのEAD上乗せが見込まれるとしています。
主要財務データ
| 指標 | 2026年第3四半期実績 | 補足・背景 |
|---|---|---|
| 1株当たり純資産価値(BVPS) | $9.27 | 10.00ドルから7.3%減少 |
| 経済的リターン | -4.9% | 0.24ドルの普通株配当を含む |
| 普通株主に帰属するGAAP純損失 | 1,570万ドル | 1株当たり0.49ドルの赤字 |
| 1株当たりEAD | $0.21 | 発表済みの配当(0.24ドル)との比較 |
| 1株当たり純利息収入 | $0.66 | ヘッジからの受取利息を含む |
| 営業費用および優先株配当 | 1株当たり0.45ドル | — |
| 投資ポートフォリオ | 約76億ドル | 低LTVかつ低延滞率のローンおよび証券 |
| 経済的レバレッジ | 約2.0倍 | 1.8倍から上昇 |
| 総流動性 | 約8,500万ドル | 現金5,700万ドルおよびコミットメントライン2,800万ドル |
| Arc Homeの融資実行額 | 約10億ドル | 前年同期比で約19%増加 |
事業および業績の動向
MITTはホーム・エクエティ投資への資本シフトを継続しました。同社は当四半期中に3億1,700万ドルのホーム・エクエティ・ローンを取得し、3件の証券化を完了しました。
連結取引の1件は3億2,700万ドルのHELOCを裏付けとしていました。クローズドエンド型第2抵当権8億9,500万ドルを裏付けとする2件の取引において、MITTは関連するウェアハウス・ファイナンスのリスクを負うことなく、4,600万ドルの非公的機関系RMBSを保有し続けました。
経営陣によると、MITTはローンが永久的な証券化ファイナンスを受ける前の段階で、非マーク・トゥ・マーケット型のウェアハウス・ファシリティを活用しています。また同社は、最終的に投資家に売却される証券化負債の市場リスクを負担するオリジネーターと提携しています。
投資ポートフォリオは、ホーム・エクエティへの再投資と純利息マージンの拡大に支えられ、約20%のROEを達成しました。経営陣は、低金利の第1抵当権を借り換えることなく住宅の含み益を活用したい住宅所有者にとっての調達面での優位性を挙げ、非適格住宅ローン(Non-QM)投資よりもホーム・エクエティを好む姿勢を維持しています。
Arc Homeの約10億ドルの融資実行額は前年同期比19%増となりました。しかし、9月の市場変動により7月と8月の好調な業績が打ち消されたため、EADへの貢献はほぼトントンにとどまりました。Arc Homeはホーム・エクエティの融資実行の拡大を開始しており、経営陣はこれが時間の経過とともに第1抵当権案件の伸び悩みを相殺するのに役立つと期待しています。
MITTはまた、Cherry Hillとの潜在的な合併を進めました。両社は10月に共同プロキシ・ステートメント(委任状勧誘書)および目論見書を提出しており、株主総会は12月に予定されています。
経営陣の見通し
買主の手付金が返金不可となったことを受け、経営陣はホスピタリティ資産1件の売却が年末までに完了すると見込んでいます。別のホスピタリティ関連ローンも今後1〜2四半期で処理される可能性があり、MITTの商業リテール関連エクスポージャーに関して選定された買主は今後数カ月以内に取引を完了する見通しです。
同社は、既存の商業用不動産5資産のより広範な処理が段階的に進み、2027年まで延長する可能性があると見込んでいます。経営陣は、見込まれる売却代金は現在の帳簿価額と同水準を維持していると述べました。
不稼働商業用ローンの処理により約2,800万ドルの資本が解放され、より高利回りの住宅向け投資へ回せる可能性があります。タイミング次第ですが、経営陣はこの資本再配置により2027年の年間EADが約0.15〜0.20ドル増加すると見込んでいます。
経営陣はまた、時間の経過とともにROEの向上、EADの拡大、継続的な配当成長を見込んでいますが、Arc Homeの短期的な業績貢献はモーゲージ・バンキング環境やスプレッドの変動に左右されやすいと強調しました。
リスクと注目点
- 指標金利の上昇とクレジット・スプレッドの拡大がモーゲージ資産の評価額を押し下げ、第3四半期の純資産価値下落の要因となりました。
- 経営陣の推計によると、純資産価値下落の要因の約半分が金利の動きに、半分がスプレッドの拡大に関連しています。
- Arc Homeは引き続きモーゲージ・バンキングの景気循環、ならびに金利やスプレッドの変動リスクに晒されています。
- 既存の商業用不動産資産の売却時期は不透明であり、経営陣は商業用不動産の売却プロセスを困難なものとして表現しました。
- 第3四半期の1株当たりEAD(0.21ドル)は、四半期配当(0.24ドル)をカバーできませんでした。
- Cherry Hillとの取引により約200万ドルの費用が発生し、当四半期中に純資産価値が約0.6%減少しました。
アナリスト質疑応答のハイライト
経営陣は、Cherry Hillのエージェンシー証券やモーゲージ・サービシング権(MSR)のエクスポージャーをどれだけ維持するか、あるいは非エージェンシー・クレジットへシフトするかを決定する前に、まずCherry Hillとの合併完了に注力していると述べました。
配当維持率(カバレッジ)について、経営陣はコア投資ポートフォリオが想定通り機能し続けていると述べました。今後のEAD改善は、商業用不動産の売却代金をホーム・エクエティに再配置すること、および9月と10月の市場変動からのArc Homeの回復に部分的に依存しています。
MITTはレバレッジを引き続き保守的に管理する方針です。約2.0倍というレバレッジについて、経営陣は競合他社と比較して低い水準にあるとみており、非マーク・トゥ・マーケット型の資金調達構造が市場変動期における柔軟な投資機会を提供すると考えています。
ホーム・エクエティの信用リスクに関して、経営陣は高いFICOスコア、相対的に低い複合LTV比率(CLTV)、豊富な住宅含み益を有する借り手が多いことを挙げました。延滞率は低い水準にとどまっており、数年間の運用実績データにより経営陣はこの戦略に対する確信を深めています。
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経営陣による説明
Operator
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the TPG Mortgage Investment Trust, Inc. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Jenny Neslin, General Counsel for the company.
Jenny Neslin
Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call for TPG Mortgage Investment Trust. With me on the call today are T.J. Durkin, our CEO and President; Nick Smith, our Chief Investment Officer; and Anthony Rossiello, our Chief Financial Officer.
Before we begin, please note that the information discussed in today's call may contain forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which are outlined in our SEC filings, including under the headings Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking Statements, Risk Factors and Management's Discussion and Analysis. The company's actual results may differ materially from these statements. We encourage you to read the disclosure regarding forward-looking statements contained in our SEC filings, including our most recently filed Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, our Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2026, and our subsequent reports filed from time to time with the SEC. Except as required by law, we are not obligated and do not intend to update or to review or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
During the call today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our SEC filings for reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures. We will also reference the earnings presentation that was posted to our website this morning. To view the slide presentation, turn to our website, www.mitt.tpg.com and click on the link for the Q3 2026 earnings presentation on the home page. Again, welcome to the call, and thank you for joining us today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to T.J.
Thomas Durkin
Thank you, Jenny, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report MITT's third quarter earnings. First, we are making a lot of progress on the potential merger with Cherry Hill, including filing our joint proxy statement and prospectus back in October, and we are marching towards stockholder meetings for both MITT and Cherry Hill in December.
Turning back to the third quarter, we experienced two different market environments. July and August continued the second quarter's trend of calm and functional markets. However, September inflationary fears took hold of the interest rate market, which put massive pressure on the agency basis and spilled over into non-agency spreads. Our portfolio was well positioned with low leverage, and we were able to navigate these markets without any uncomfortable decisions around delta hedging or delevering.
Book value decreased from $10 to $9.27 per share during the quarter, with the entire decline in book value occurring completely in September. Because we entered the period of volatility with a very defensive leverage position, we were able to remain invested and continued rotating capital into higher returning residential credit strategies. At the same time, Arc Home was not immune to September's volatility and reversed July and August profitability to breakeven and therefore, not contributing to EAD this quarter. In total, MITT generated EAD of $0.21 per share for the quarter, coming in just shy of our recently declared dividend of $0.24.
We continue to make tangible progress resolving our legacy commercial loans. Within the hospitality portfolio, a buyer's deposit has gone hard since quarter end and should close by year-end. We remain on track to resolve another one of the hospitality loans in the coming quarter or two. Separately, the sale process for our retail exposure is still progressing well. The buyer has been selected, and we are guiding the transaction to close in the coming months ahead. These resolutions are important catalysts for MITT. As capital from these legacy positions is redeployed into our core residential strategies, we expect it to contribute approximately $0.15 to $0.20 of incremental annual EAD for 2027, depending on the timing of these resolutions.
As we look toward closing out the year into 2027, we believe we have a clear line of sight to stronger ROEs, higher EAD and continued dividend growth. We have already raised the dividend in 4 of the last 8 quarters, and we believe this quarter's results are not reflective of our long-term trend. We have confidence in the trajectory of the business. We remain excited about the opportunities ahead and look forward to continuing to share our progress with you in the quarters ahead.
With that, I'll turn it over to Nick.
Nicholas Smith
Thanks, T.J., and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. The third quarter presented a challenging macro environment. Interest rate moves meaningfully higher, volatility was elevated and geopolitical uncertainty drove volatility in energy, equity, fixed income and credit markets. Despite this backdrop, the company had an extremely active quarter, issuing approximately $1.25 billion across three home equity securitizations, building on our strong partnerships with leading home equity originators. Importantly, this significant investment activity increased our economic leverage only modestly from 1.8x to approximately 2x, well within the range we have been operating.
As stated in previous quarters, we have ample dry powder to continue to grow our asset base by using a combination of liquidity on hand and untapped financing. It's worth repeating a point we made regularly on prior calls. This growth came without taking outside gestation risk on mark-to-market warehouse lines.
Today, we use only non-mark-to-market warehouse facilities until loans are permanently financed through securitization. Similarly, the company is also mitigating warehouse risk by partnering with originators that bear the market risk for securitized debt that is ultimately syndicated. These strategies are allowing the company to prudently grow our investments in higher-returning residential credit strategies as the portfolio delevers organically over time, which will be an important driver for further expansion of the company's net interest income.
While the third quarter's move higher in rates possesses certain challenges, it makes the case for home equity stronger. About half of all outstanding mortgages are below 4% and nearly 8 in 10 are below 6%. While homeowners hold historically high levels of tappable equity, extracting home equity through a new first-lien cash out refinance means trading a 2%, 3% or 4% mortgage for one above 7%. Instead, homeowners are going to continue to turn to the home equity market, allowing them to keep their low 30-year fixed rate mortgages with a combined rate much lower than alternatives. Every move higher in rates widens this financing advantage, and it would take a material decline in mortgage rates to slow growth in the second lien origination market.
Moving on to Arc Home. Arc Home originated approximately $1 billion this quarter, an approximately 19% increase versus last year. However, as T.J. mentioned, its contribution to MITT's EAD was roughly breakeven after the volatility in September reversed the previous two months' profitability. On a more positive note, we are starting to ramp home equity originations at Arc Home, which we expect to offset some of the pullback in first-lien originations in our base case and in a more bullish scenario could be an impetus to getting back to more recent quarters' contribution to EAD or higher over time.
Before handing the call over to Anthony, I'll summarize. Despite the challenging macro environment, we remain extremely active deploying excess liquidity, growing the investment portfolio and consequently net interest income while only modestly increasing leverage. Anthony, over to you.
Anthony Rossiello
Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. During the third quarter, we remained focused on rotating capital into our home equity strategy while maintaining a prudent financing profile. We acquired $317 million of home equity loans and sponsored three home equity securitizations. We also continue to make progress resolving certain legacy WMC commercial loans. Importantly, our investment portfolio continued to generate strong earnings available for distribution.
Moving to our financial results. The sharp increase in benchmark rates and widening of credit spreads in September pressured valuations across the mortgage REIT sector. Our book value declined by 7.3% during the third quarter to $9.27 per share. Including our $0.24 common dividend, we generated a negative 4.9% economic return. We reported a GAAP net loss available to common shareholders of approximately $15.7 million or $0.49 per share, driven by unrealized mark-to-market losses across our investment portfolio, resulting from the move in rates and spreads. We also incurred approximately $2 million of transaction-related expenses associated with the acquisition of Cherry Hill, which reduced book value by approximately 0.6%.
Despite the pressure on book value, the underlying earnings performance of our investment portfolio improved during the quarter. We recognized EAD of $0.21 per share. Net interest income, inclusive of interest earned on our hedge portfolio was $0.66 per share, exceeding operating expenses and preferred dividends of $0.45 per share.
Arc Home was breakeven for EAD as positive operating performance in July and August was offset by the September volatility. Our investment portfolio continued to generate ROEs of approximately 20%, supported by reinvestment into home equity and net interest margin expansion. In addition, we continue to see meaningful upside from the resolution of our nonaccrual commercial loans. This would allow us to redeploy approximately $28 million of capital into higher-yielding residential investments, further enhancing our earnings power and shareholder returns.
Turning to the investment portfolio. We ended the quarter with approximately $7.6 billion of investments allocated across high-quality loans and securities supported by low LTV and delinquency profiles. We continue to reinvest into home equity, which represented 37% of our equity allocation at quarter end. Of the three securitizations sponsored during the quarter, we consolidated one transaction backed by $327 million of HELOCs and for two transactions backed by $895 million of closed-end seconds, we retained $46 million of non-Agency RMBS without assuming the associated warehouse financing risk.
At approximately two turns, our low economic leverage reflects the benefits of our securitization strategy. Lastly, we ended the quarter with total liquidity of approximately $85 million, consisting of $57 million in cash and $28 million of committed financing available on residential mortgage loans. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we'd now like to open the call for questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from the line of [ Marissa Lobo ] with UBS.
質疑応答
Unknown Analyst
On the Cherry Hill portfolio, given the higher for longer rate environment and the spread environment, how are you thinking about the relative value of the agency and MSR assets relative to the opportunity you're seeing in non-agency credit? And does that influence how much you ultimately retain versus rotate post the close?
Thomas Durkin
Yes. I mean when we look at their quarter versus the industry, I mean, I think it was fairly in line. They were down about 13%, only 11% if you stripped out the deal expenses, the majority of it was unrealized. So I don't think there's anything out of line there. I would say we're probably pretty focused on trying to get the deal closed before we think about sort of rotation or relative value, but we're obviously doing this for a much longer time horizon than just a pretty volatile third quarter.
Unknown Analyst
And then maybe on the policy environment with the change in Congress following midterms, how does that change the opportunity set for housing finance for you guys? And anything specifically about the GSEs or mortgage credit that could be meaningful for MITT?
Nicholas Smith
Look, we don't think the changes overnight today and going forward change really the landscape for what we think is bipartisan initiative and agreement on finding ways to make housing more affordable and potential deregulation around housing finance. So we think that the environment will remain positive. And if anything, will continue to trend in the right direction.
Unknown Analyst
Great. And if I could just ask how -- if you could give us a sense of how book value has trended quarter-to-date?
Anthony Rossiello
It's Anthony. Just given where we are in the calendar, we don't have a book value update at this time.
Operator
Our next question will come from the line of Crispin Love with Piper Sandler.
Crispin Love
On Arc Home, can you discuss the third quarter in a little bit more detail, just from a EAD contribution perspective, if you could give a little bit detail of what Arc contributed in the first two months versus the drag in September. Looking at the presentation, locks seemed pretty solid being flat sequentially relative to outperformer versus most. So just curious on some of the drivers of the breakeven EAD. Was it kind of competition, margin related? And then also just if you have any early read for the fourth quarter big picture for Arc?
Nicholas Smith
Yes. So if you -- as both T.J. and I mentioned, the trajectory of the business in the first two months was on track, call that slightly below the $0.04 of contribution in previous quarters, so call it $0.02 to $0.03 from a pure equity standpoint, look, it's relatively early. I think we're all paying attention to the screens and have seen sort of the pretty meaningful reversal in rates. So my prepared remarks around the home equity is maybe not a next quarter thing, that's over a longer period of time, although we would like to think we'll start seeing contribution sooner than that. But given the broader volatility, it's probably too early to comment on exactly how that's going to shake out.
Crispin Love
All right. No, perfect. That's fair. And then just on where you're most interested in investing incremental capital today. I was looking at Slide 9, that pie chart there, home equity, non-QM, agency eligible, RPL and nonperforming. Just where are you most interested in adding today? It seems you're bullish on home equity, definitely longer term just on the rate backdrop. But just curious, your focus today and then if there's any pockets in there where you're more cautious or stepping back a little bit.
Nicholas Smith
Yes. Look, I think our prepared remarks sort of pound the table a lot on home equity. Hopefully, that comes through as I think it's been obvious over the past many quarters, years, we've not been investing as much in non-QM because we see the relative value in home equity. We would like to think that, that premise has been positive relative to other guys that have taken different strategies. And it's our view that this strategy still has legs.
Crispin Love
And then any other areas where you're more cautious or stepping back?
Nicholas Smith
Look, I mean, we've sort of been deploying capital in somewhat of a monoline fashion in home equity for a decent amount of time. So pulling back would be pulling back on that one strategy, and we're communicating that we expect to keep doing that. So I'm not going to -- I don't want to comment on things we're cautious on that we're not doing.
Operator
Our next question will come from the line of Bose George with KBW.
Francesco Labetti
This is Frank Labetti on for Bose. I just want to start with the -- you mentioned the $0.03 EAD benefit from repaying the commercial piece. What is the expected timing of that benefit? And you mentioned that redeploying the $28 million of equity there. What's the -- can you give us some color on the additional benefit you see there?
Thomas Durkin
Yes. We have -- so we have five specific assets that we've gone through, right? We have the one retail property. We have four hospitality. It looks like one of the hospitality assets, like I said, the deposit has gone hard. We expect that to close this year. We're pushing on the retail assets. So it's going to be staggered, not sort of one clip event. We're delevering that financing as we get proceeds. So I mean, the goal would be this is sort of wrapped up in totality at some point during '27 with some probably tail of the hospitality assets.
And as we generate excess cash, we're from both paydowns and CRE assets, we're redeploying that into, like Nick mentioned, home equity at, call it, 20% ROEs. I mean I think as you know, right, the CRE market, selling these assets is an adventure, and we're trying to keep buyers focused, disciplined and getting to closings. But I don't think that's unique to these assets at all.
Francesco Labetti
Yes. And just a follow-up on that, the expected proceeds still consistent with the current carrying values given the changing macro environment?
Thomas Durkin
Correct.
Francesco Labetti
Awesome. And then just on -- you mentioned in the prepared remarks, the bridge from the current $0.21 of EAD to the $0.24 dividend. Can you just talk about kind of run rate in the current environment where you see that? Do you think to cover the dividend in 4Q or is maybe a little longer than that?
Thomas Durkin
Yes. I mean I think we'll -- the Arc Home kind of breakeven obviously contributed to the current quarter's miss. We'll see how the sort of mortgage banking environment emerges in Q4 coming out of a pretty volatile September, October, I would say. I think the portfolio continues -- the portfolio ex CRE, I think, continues to do its job. And as we can rotate more capital into there, that will just drive kind of more natural run rate EAD.
So that is kind of the moving scale of capital as we can get more capital into home equity, that obviously drives more consistent EAD and Arc Home, we are somewhat at the whims of sort of like the mortgage banking cyclicality or just the spread volatility that we've seen in September, October.
Francesco Labetti
Great. And then just last follow-up. Just on current leverage expectations going forward, been pretty consistent over the past few quarters. Just where do you see leverage going from here?
Thomas Durkin
Yes. I think, listen, we've run the business really conservatively both from a nominal economic leverage perspective. And then I think as Nick mentioned, like there's a lot of defensiveness to our facilities in terms of non-mark-to-market, et cetera. So I think the setup did its job in a quarter like the past one where we can kind of lean into that strength of financing, let economic leverage creep up minorly. But at two turns, I don't think -- I still think we're on the low end of our peers. And so we're pretty comfortable being able to be offensive, not defensive in a quarter like Q3.
Operator
Our next question will come from the line of Trevor Cranston with Citizens.
Trevor Cranston
On the move in book value in 3Q, are you guys able to kind of disaggregate how much of the change was due to rates or duration exposure versus how much was just pure spread widening? And then I guess the second part of the question, can you comment on kind of what kind of move you've seen in spreads in the non-Agency market so far in October?
Nicholas Smith
Yes. So taking those each one at a time, if you talk about attribution of book value, one, I think if you spend some time looking at deconstructing how much was actually driven by our core business the decline is much more modest than sort of the headline numbers. So I'd welcome you to take a look at that, deconstructing sort of the spread move versus interest rate move, I would say they're relatively, I would call it, 50-ish 50.
We tend to run a small duration gap, but oftentimes, that's offset by sort of spreads theoretically tightening into a sell-off and vice versa. Obviously, that didn't happen this quarter. We're hopeful that given the moves early on in the most recent quarter, claw some of that back.
Operator
And our next question will come from the line of Jason Weaver with JonesTrading.
Jason Weaver
I was wondering, according to your prepared remarks with the growth in the home equity side of the portfolio, how are you thinking about the changing -- how are you thinking about the new way to manage the credit exposure and duration exposure going forward, like it more challenging? And any specifics you can give around that, I'd appreciate.
Nicholas Smith
I mean taking each of those one at a time. On the credit exposure, we're lending money to folks that have been in their house on average well over a decade with high FICO scores and relatively low CLTVs on average, the portfolio has, call it, a range of 30% to 40% of equity in the house where that second lien detaches. The delinquencies have been modest. There's actually -- we have a couple of 3 years of good performance data to benchmark to. So now it's no longer hypothetical. So we feel good about the credit. We have a lot of -- we have a decent amount of experience relative to peers already.
So managing the credit, we're very comfortable with. If anything, when you talk about the convexity, the nice part about second liens is there's a lot of spec to use sort of an agency term. There shouldn't be a tremendous amount of convexity. So managing the interest rate risk is actually far more straightforward than sort of the broader mortgage universe, given the lower average balances and the high cost of producing a second should not have a ton of convexity.
Operator
And that will conclude our question-and-answer session today. I'll hand the call back to Jenny Neslin for any concluding remarks.
Jenny Neslin
Thank you to everyone for joining us and for your questions. We greatly appreciate it and look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Have a great day.
Operator
This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
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