MFAフィナンシャル 2026年第3四半期決算説明会：1株当たり純資産は減少、配当可能利益は改善

主な要点

• MFA Financialが発表した2026年第3四半期のGAAPベース純損失は1億1,170万ドル（普通株式1株当たり1.19ドル）となった。これは主に、金利上昇と住宅ローン・スプレッドの拡大に伴い、約1億5,300万ドルの時価評価損（純額）が発生したことによる。
• GAAPベースの1株当たり純資産価値（BPS）は前四半期比12.5%減の11.12ドルに低下し、経済的BPSは13.3%減の11.44ドルとなった。経営陣は、四半期末以降に経済的BPSが約5%回復したと推計している。
• 分配可能利益は第2四半期の0.12ドルから1株当たり0.26ドルに増加した。実現信用損失控除前の分配可能利益は1株当たり0.44ドルで、一時的な利益0.05ドルを除くと約0.39ドルとなった。
• 実現信用損失は1,890万ドルに減少した。レガシー集合住宅ポートフォリオの未償還元本残高は3億ドルを下回り、経営陣は信用損失が現在の水準から大幅に縮小すると見込んでいる。
• MFAはより高い利回りでの資本運用を継続した。第3四半期に取得したローンの平均クーポンは7.8%で、経営陣は現在の投資によって10%台半ばから後半の自己資本利益率（ROE）を達成できると述べた。
• 金利1.4%の固定金利支払いスワップ約13億ドルが2027年第1四半期末までに満期を迎える。これらのスワップは現在、四半期ごとに1株当たり約0.08ドルの分配可能利益に寄与している。

主要財務データ

事業および運用業績

Non-QM（非適格住宅ローン）は残高が60億ドル近くに達し、引き続きMFA最大の資産クラスとなった。同社は第3四半期中に4億8,000万ドルを超えるNon-QMローンを取得し、平均クーポンは7%、借入比率（LTV）は70%であった。四半期末後まもなく、MFAは25回目となるNon-QMの証券化を完了し、3億6,000万ドルの債券を売却した。

MFAはまた、2024年に実施した不良債権証券化の繰上償還（コール）を行い、平均6%のクーポンで3億7,900万ドルの新規債券を発行した。この取引により4,000万ドルの現金と新たな投資に向けた資金調達枠が確保された。

政府機関（エージェンシー）保証住宅ローン担保証券（MBS）ポートフォリオは総額約40億ドルとなり、投資ポートフォリオの約3分の1を占めた。MFAは低クーポンの証券から高クーポンの特定プール（スペシファイド・プール）へ入れ替えを行い、4億7,800万ドルのTBAポジションのロールオーバーを継続した。経営陣は、現在のエージェンシーMBSのスプレッド水準であれば10%台半ばから後半のROEを維持できると述べた。

子会社のLima Oneは当四半期に2億8,800万ドルの融資を実行した。内訳は短期つなぎ融資（トランジショナル・ローン）が2億1,400万ドル、30年賃貸ローンが7,400万ドルであった。また9,500万ドルの賃貸ローンを売却し、240万ドルの売却益を計上した。

Lima Oneは2024年春に一時停止していた集合住宅ローンの新規実行も再開した。初回の融資額は合計約500万ドルとなった。同社はこれらの集合住宅ローンをバランスシート上に保有するのではなく、売却目的で実行する方針である。

レガシー集合住宅ローンのリスクエクスポージャーは減少が続いた。残存元本は3億ドルを下回り、公正価値は2億6,300万ドル、延滞残高は7,100万ドルに減少した。

MFAは経営陣の交代計画についても説明した。クレイグ・ナッツン最高経営責任者（CEO）は2027年6月末に退任する予定で、2027年7月1日付でブライアン・ウルフソンが社長兼CEOに就任する。また、アンドリュー・カルが2027年1月1日付で最高投資責任者（CIO）に就任する予定である。

経営見通し

経営陣は、問題のあるレガシー集合住宅ローンの処理完了に伴い、実現信用損失が大幅に縮小すると見込んでいる。関連する損失の大部分はすでに分配可能利益に反映されており、2027年に向けて集合住宅に関する信用問題は概ね解消に向かうと考えている。

同社は、現在の水準での新規投資により10%台半ばから後半のROEを生み出せると見込んでいる。利益成長のペースは、市場の変動性、金利、資産運用の進捗、および非効率な資本を再投下するMFAの能力に依存する。

経営陣は、Lima Oneが再開した集合住宅ローン事業の実行額が1億ドルを超える可能性があると述べたものの、その時期や規模の予測は引き続き困難であると強調した。

取締役会は、長期的な収益見通し、課税所得、流動性、市場環境などの要因に基づき、普通株式配当を四半期ごとに継続して検討する。経営陣は、現在の四半期配当0.36ドルの維持を約束しなかった。

リスクと注視事項

急激な金利上昇と住宅ローン・スプレッドの拡大が、第3四半期のBPS落込みの大半を引き起こした。当四半期中、米国2年債利回りは70ベーシスポイント（bp）以上上昇して4.89%となり、10年債利回りは約85ベーシスポイント上昇して5.29%となった。

MFAはポートフォリオのデュレーション・ギャップを約1年にヘッジしているが、米国債利回りの上昇、住宅ローン・スプレッドの拡大、およびスワップ金利の上昇幅が米国債利回りより小さかったことが重なり、BPSを押し下げたと経営陣は述べた。

金利1.4%の固定金利支払いスワップ約13億ドルの満期到来は、すでに認識されている収益の下押し要因である。このスワップは四半期ごとに1株当たり約0.08ドルの分配可能利益に寄与しており、2027年第1四半期末までに満期を迎える予定である。

信用リスクは縮小傾向にあるレガシー集合住宅ポートフォリオに引き続き集中している。また経営陣は、住宅部門の中でさらなる住宅価格下落の影響を最も受けやすい分野としてLima Oneの新築建築融資を挙げたが、借主がプロジェクトを放棄する動きは見られないと述べた。

アナリスト質疑応答の要点

• 実質的な収益力：経営陣は、一時的な利益0.05ドルを除いた実現信用損失控除前の分配可能利益が1株当たり約0.39ドルであったことを明確にした。投資家は、まもなく満期を迎えるスワップからの1株当たり0.08ドルの貢献についても考慮する必要がある。
• 純利息スプレッド：報告されたスプレッドは1.63%に改善した。経営陣は、スワップの失効により報告されるキャリー収入は減少するものの、より利回りの高い新規投資がスプレッドを下支えすると予想している。
• 証券化市場の環境：MFAは第3四半期中にスプレッドの拡大を観測したが、その後市場は安定し、一部の分野ではスプレッドが縮小したと述べた。経営陣は、証券化市場には引き続き厚みと回復力があると考えている。
• 住宅ローンの信用リスク：MFAは引受時に大幅な住宅価格の上昇を見込んでいない。経営陣は、住宅価格の横ばいまたは緩やかな下落がNon-QMの信用パフォーマンスに与える影響は限定的である一方、より大幅な下落が起きた場合はLima Oneの新築建築融資がより影響を受けやすいと述べた。
• 自社株買い：自社株買いの実施は、普通株式の買い戻し資金に充てるためにMFAが発行していた優先株の価格条件によって制限された。経営陣は、普通株がBPSに対して大幅なディスカウントで取引されているものの、自社株買いと流動性、事業規模、新たな投資機会との間でバランスを取っていると述べた。

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経営陣による説明

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the MFA Financial Third Quarter 2026 Financial Results Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Hal Schwartz, General Counsel. Thank you. You may begin.

Harold Schwartz

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. The information discussed on this conference call today may contain or refer to forward-looking statements regarding MFA Financial, Inc. which reflect management's beliefs, expectations and assumptions as to MFA's future performance and operations. When you use statements that are not historical in nature, including those containing words such as will, believe, expect, anticipate, estimate, should, could, would or similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements.

All forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made. These types of statements are subject to various known and unknown risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other factors, including those described in MFA's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, and other reports that it may file from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

These risks, uncertainties and other factors could cause MFA's actual results to differ materially from those projected implied in any forward-looking statements it makes. For additional information regarding MFA's use of forward-looking statements, please see the relevant disclosure in the press release announcing MFA's third quarter 2026 financial results. Thank you for your time.

I would now like to turn the call over to MFA's CEO, Craig Knutson.

Craig Knutson

Thank you, Hal. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for MFA Financial's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. With me today are Bryan Wulfsohn, our President and Chief Investment Officer; Mike Roper, our Chief Financial Officer; and other members of our senior management team.

Before I get to the quarter, I'd like to say a few words about the announcement that we made on October 8. As you sure saw, I plan to retire from my role as Chief Executive Officer at the end of June next year and Bryan will become President and CEO on July 1, 2027. Bryan will also join our Board on January 1 of next year, and I expect to remain on the board after I retire, so I'm not going to disappear. This transition is the result of a deliberate succession process on which I have been working with our Board since early 2023.

Bryan has run our residential whole loan portfolio since we began buying loans in 2014 and since late 2024 has overseen Lima One and our Agency MBS and BPL portfolios. Bryan has played an active and central role in shaping both the MFA of today and the strategy that guides us. I've worked with him for over 20 years, both at MFA and previously, and I can't think of anyone better suited to lead the company than Bryan.

We also announced that Andrew Kal will join us on January 1 as Chief Investment Officer. I've known Andrew for over 15 years, and he brings over 25 years of mortgage finance experience, most recently as Head of Residential Lending at Starwood Capital. Andrew's arrival will let Bryan spend the first half of next year preparing to step into the CEO role while our investment team gains the benefit of another very experienced leader with deep expertise in our target assets. Bryan will say more about this in a few minutes.

It's been a privilege to work at MFA for the last 18.5 years and to lead the company for the last 9. I'm sure I'll have more to say on that topic in the coming months. But for now, there's plenty of work to do. So let me turn to the quarter. The third quarter was a difficult 1 for rates, particularly in September. During the quarter, the market began to come to terms with a more hawkish Fed as inflation remains sticky and the economy and payroll stayed strong.

In September, the Fed raised the Fed funds rate by 25 basis points their first increase since 2023, and the accompanying message made clear that more increases will likely follow. Although the Fed left rates unchanged at their meeting last week, market expectations are overwhelmingly anticipating a hike at the December meeting. Treasury yields moved sharply higher in the third quarter. The 2-year yield rose over 70 basis points during the quarter from $4.17 to $4.89. The 10-year rose almost 85 basis points from 4.46% to $5.29, the highest level in 2 decades.

The last time the 10-year closed this high was in 2007. Most of that move came in September and much of it in the final week. Oil prices climbed with continued tension with Iran, rate volatility spiked with the Move index rising from the high 70s at the start of September to above 110 at month end, its largest 1-week jump since April of last year. Against that backdrop, credit spreads were relatively resilient, but mortgage spreads were not.

Agency MBS underperformed meaningfully in September. Non-QM securitization spreads, which tightened into mid-September widened back out to about 140 to 150 basis points on AAAs by quarter end. Mortgage rates rose above 7.25%, up about 50 basis points in September alone. We felt the impact of these moves our portfolio carries interest rate risk that we hedge to an approximate 1-year duration gap, but the combination of a sharp increase in rates, wider mortgage spreads and swap rates that rose less than treasuries collectively worked against us. It is worth noting that most of the book value decline was due to unrealized losses from marks.

Mike will walk through the drivers in more detail. While book value was disappointing, we continue to make progress on the operating priorities we laid out for you over the past year. First, we continue to work through our legacy credit book. realized credit losses improved from the second quarter, as we said they would. Our overall portfolio 60-plus day delinquency rate improved again to 6.7% and our legacy multifamily portfolio shrank to under $300 million UPB and $263 million fair value.

With a clear path to resolution on most of the remaining multifamily loans, and most of these losses already reflected in DE, we believe our multifamily credit issues are largely behind us, particularly as we look forward to 2027. Second, the earnings power of the portfolio continued to improve. Distributable earnings rose to $0.26 per share from $0.12 in the second quarter and DE prior to realized credit losses was $0.44 per share.

Third, we kept our expense base tight. G&A for the quarter was $23.6 million, well below the $33 million quarterly average of 2024. Fourth, we continued issuing in the securitization market. We issued a new $447 million NPL securitization in September after calling our 2024 NPL deal, unlocking an additional $40 million of capital and issued a non-QM deal shortly after quarter end.

As we have discussed previously, the securitization markets are remarkably deep and resilient even in the face of general fixed income market volatility. None of this makes the third quarter book value decline easier to accept, and we still have more work to do. We need to finish resolving the legacy credit book and turn improving earnings power into consistent results. But the same market that hurt us in the third quarter has also created opportunity.

Loans that we acquired in Q3 carried an average coupon of 7.8%, and we expect returns on new investments today will produce mid- to high-teen ROEs. We will remain disciplined, but we will continue to put capital to work in this attractive investment environment. I'd like to turn the call over to Mike now to discuss our financial results.

Michael Roper

Thanks, Craig, and good morning, everyone. At September 30, GAAP book value was $11.12 per share and economic book value was $11.44 per share, down approximately 12.5% and 13.3%, respectively, from the end of the second quarter. MSA again paid a common dividend of $0.36 and delivered a quarterly total economic return of negative 10.6%. For the third quarter, we reported a GAAP net loss of $111.7 million or $1.19 per basic common share.

The loss was driven by net mark-to-market declines of approximately $153 million across our various fair value assets, liabilities and hedges as rates rose sharply and mortgage spreads widened, particularly in late September. Net interest income, including TBA dollar roll income was $63.4 million, up from $60.2 million in the second quarter. Our G&A expenses declined $23.6 million, attributable primarily to nonrecurring depreciation expenses in the second quarter and a nonrecurring benefit from a true-up of incentive compensation accruals in the third quarter.

Moving to distributable earnings. DE for the quarter was $26.4 million or $0.26 per share, up from $0.12 per share in the second quarter. Realized credit losses on fair value loans declined to $18.9 million consistent with the expectations we shared last quarter. DE prior to realized credit losses was $45.3 million or $0.44 per share. That figure includes approximately $0.05 per share of nonrecurring benefits related to a refund of disputed servicing costs and a reduction of incentive compensation accruals in the third quarter.

Excluding those items, DE prior to realized credit losses was approximately $0.39 per share, an increase of 11% from last quarter and 30% from the third quarter of 2025. This marks the third straight quarter of significant growth in the underlying earnings power of our portfolio and reflects the progress of the strategic initiatives that we shared a year ago. In light of the significant market volatility over the last few months, we also want to provide an update on how we're thinking about the path of our distributable earnings from here.

Earlier this year, we shared our expectations for elevated credit losses in 2026 and as we work to resolve our legacy multifamily portfolio. This has played out largely as we expected. While these resolutions have been a drag on our -- many of our most troubled legacy multifamily loans have now been resolved or charged off, and we continue to expect realized credit losses to moderate meaningfully from here.

As we look past the near-term, the recent move in rates and spreads has added significantly more variability to the longer-term outlook for RDE. We also have some known headwinds with approximately $1.3 billion of 1.4% pay fixed interest rate swaps that mature at the end of the year and into the first quarter of next year. These swaps contribute approximately $0.08 per share per quarter to our DE today.

We have meaningful options to offset this loss carry and to continue to grow the portfolio's earnings power with new investments coming on of returns in the mid- to high teens, the continued recycling of unproductive capital and a balance sheet capable of supporting significantly more leverage. How quickly this build will depend in part on how volatility, rates and markets evolve.

As always, our Board will continue to evaluate the dividend each quarter, taking into account our long-term earnings outlook, taxable income, market conditions and other factors.

Finally, subsequent to quarter end, we estimate that our economic book value has increased by approximately 5% since the end of September, driven by a rally in interest rates. I'd now like to turn the call over to Bryan , who will discuss our investment portfolio and Lima ONE.

Bryan Wulfsohn

Thanks, Mike. Before I get into the portfolio, I want to add a few words to what Craig said about our announcement last month. I'm honored that the Board has asked me to lead MFA, and I'm grateful to Craig who has been a mentor and partner to me for more than 2 decades. We have a long runway to make this a smooth handoff next summer. I'm also very glad Andrew Kal is joining us in January. I've known Andrew for over 15 years. He has built and run residential lending businesses, and he knows the non-QM business purpose and broader residential credit markets from both sides of the table.

As CIO, Andrew will lead our investment activities alongside the team that has been with us through many cycles. Andrew adds experience, expertise and relationships to our investment team, and we look forward to working with him.

Now to the quarter. Despite a very volatile September, we continue to add assets, securitize loans, reduce our legacy credit exposure and make improvements at Lima One. I'll touch on each. Starting with NonQM, which remains our largest asset class at nearly $6 billion. We acquired over $480 million of loans during the quarter with an average coupon of 7% and an LTV of 70%.

These were sourced through a select group of long-standing origination partners. Just after quarter end, we issued our 25th non-QM securitization, successfully selling $360 million of bonds and locking in nonrecourse nonmark-to-market financing on the underlying loans. We also remain pleased with the performance of our seasoned RPL and NPL loans, which, as a reminder, were loans originated pre-GFC that were acquired at discounts to par between 2014 and 2019. The default rate in that portfolio fell to another all-time low during Q3.

In September, we called our 2024 NPL securitization and issued $379 million of new bonds with an average coupon of 6%. That transaction unlocked $40 million in cash and financing capacity that we can utilize to make new investments. Turning to our agency book. which comprises nearly 1/3 of our investment portfolio at roughly $4 billion. Though we did not sell any bonds due to volatile market conditions, we were active during the quarter rotating lower coupon securities into higher coupon spec pools.

We also continued to roll our $478 million TBA position. Agency spreads widened in September as rate volatility spiked, which hurt book value this quarter. But at current spreads, we believe agencies offer mid- to high-teens ROEs and remain an attractive liquid complement to our credit assets.

At Lima One, origination volume was $288 million in the third quarter, including $214 million of short-term transitional loans and $74 million of 30-year rental loans. Although these figures were a slight drop from Q2 and we have not and will not compromise the underwriting improvements we've made over the past 2 years in order to grow volume. We sold $95 million of rental loans during the quarter, generating $2.4 million of gain on sale income.

And we're pleased to announce that last week, Lima originated and distributed its first multifamily loans since the spring of 2024. This was the culmination of months of hard work by an entirely new underwriting regime. As with Lima's 30-year rental production, our business plan for multifamily will be originated to sell.

Finally, we continue to wind down our legacy assets, our multifamily loan book fell below $300 million of remaining principal and the delinquent bucket fell to $71 million. As Mike noted, credit losses came in below the second quarter, and we expect them to moderate meaningfully from here. Across our entire loan portfolio, 60-plus delinquencies improved to 6.7% from 7% at June 30.

Overall, while the rate environment made for a difficult quarter for book value we were able to add assets at attractive levels. Lima continued to perform well, and our problem asset book continues to shrink. And with that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Bose George with KBW.

質疑応答

Unknown Analyst

This is Frank on for Bose. Just want to touch on Lima One. You guys mentioned earlier in the year, returning to the multifamily business like can you discuss maybe the pace there and how you're envisioning multifamily being a bigger part of the book going forward?

Bryan Wulfsohn

Yes. So we just originated our first loans last week. Those amounted to around -- somewhere around $5 million in loans. In terms of the expectation going forward and how big it could be, it's hard to really forecast out exactly we think it might be next year. But we think it's possible that, that asset could easily be above $100 million of originations, and we'll see where it goes from there.

Unknown Analyst

Great. That's very helpful. And then just on the dividend. How are you thinking about the current dividend and the current run rate going ahead? You mentioned some headwinds with some swaps turning off on.

Craig Knutson

Sure. So our Board obviously sets our dividend policy taking into account a number of factors, including our longer-term earnings outlook, taxable income, liquidity, peer group dividend policy and other factors. There's no question that the operating environment is more challenging today than it was in August when we held our second quarter earnings call. but considerable uncertainty remains, not the least of which will be the market response to the midterm election results, which obviously we don't know yet.

Our Board will take all of this into consideration when setting dividend policy. For our part, we're focused on the long-term earnings power of the portfolio and prudently deploying capital to make that happen.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Melissa Lobo with UBS.

Unknown Analyst

Just looking at net interest spread, which improved to 1.63 this quarter. How should we think about the trajectory from here as the portfolio is repricing and particularly the volatility in the securitization market?

Michael Roper

Sure. So this is Mike. I'm happy to answer the first part of that question, and maybe I'll ask Bryan to respond to your question on securitization market. That number can be pretty sticky, right? For GAAP purposes, you don't get to rerack your assets or liabilities or hedges. The spread is sort of locked in at the time you purchase an asset. I think over the last several quarters, we've seen a bit of a shift, which is really driven in part by the increased allocation to Agency MBS, which is a higher leverage, lower spread product.

In terms of the outlook for spread though, as I think Craig said in his prepared remarks, the assets we're adding today are in the high -- mid- to high teens, which certainly should help that number as we move forward. From a financial reporting perspective, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we have these swaps, which are rolling off, which really are not doing much economically given the extremely short duration left in them. However, that decrease in carry will have an adverse impact on the reported spread, notwithstanding the fact that there isn't that big of an impact economically.

Bryan Wulfsohn

And as it relates to securitization markets, we did see widening in Q3. However, the first month of the quarter and recently, we've seen stabilization and some tightening -- so we do think that, that market is very deep, and assets also move wider in terms of spreads when securitization markets, spreads are moving wider as well. So we believe that sort of the NIM, the spread is still able to be maintained there.

Unknown Analyst

Okay. Great. And then on residential credit, seeing the delinquencies improved this quarter. although non-QM very modestly higher. As you look forward, how are you thinking about credit performance if home prices stay flat to modestly lower? And where in the residential portfolio, would you expect to see the most sensitivity?

Bryan Wulfsohn

Mean we -- when we buy assets and originate assets, we don't assume much in the way of HPA growth. So we take a conservative approach when we're looking at projections of home prices as they factor into our credit decisions. So flat home prices are moderately down. We do tend to see right? Like if you were to think about where the pressure could be on the new construction on the Lima side, if things were to go down further, right? You're worried about people potentially walking away from projects, but we haven't seen that at all.

We've seen improvement in that business even in the face of sort of moderating home prices. And on the NonQM side, you look at historical losses we've had there, it's been 0. So we've been sort of wrong to the good, I guess, for the benefit of our portfolio. If we see some flat to moderate, see a basis point or 2 of loss in that portfolio, we're -- it's very minor. We're not concerned there.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Jason Weaver with Jones Trading.

Jason Weaver

First of all, congrats to Craig and Bryan on their transition. And it's nice to see the pre-loss number clear the dividend for this quarter. And I wanted to clarify something on that during your prepared remarks that I might have jumbled in my mind. I think you alluded to a run rate of near $0.39 or is that misconstrued?

Michael Roper

It's -- yes, this is Mike. Thanks for the question. We had this quarter sort of nonrecurring benefit from 2 items that amounted to about $0.05. So if you were to kind of strip those out, it's $0.39. Obviously, if you think about sort of the run rate of that number, I also mentioned in my prepared remarks that we have some swaps that are expiring that contributed about $0.08 this quarter. So I think you got to sort of add those 2 together as the portfolio sits today to construct a run rate.

Jason Weaver

Understood. And then on capital priority, it looks like you bought back about 1 million shares in the first half, and it looks like this quarter, you held off a bit and held more liquidity Help me understand how you're weighing the repurchase against keeping dry powder and what would tilt that back towards buying?

Bryan Wulfsohn

Sure. So we announced this quarter last year, a program to effectively swap preferred for common -- so we've been issuing preferred by the ATM for each of the last several quarters and using those proceeds to buy back common. The preferred market has kind of moved away a little bit from levels that we deem to be accretive in terms of where we want to issue that capital which is why the overall volume there was down this quarter. It's really driven by the constraint of how much preferred we can sell at levels we're comfortable selling it more so than a desire to buy back common.

As far as the overall desire to buy back common versus other uses or preserving liquidity, obviously, the stock is very cheap right now and trading at a material discount to book. And we think it's a compelling opportunity there. At the same time, we're focused on maintaining the scale of the business as well as looking at longer-term returns from the assets that are currently yielding in the mid- to high teens today.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, there are no other questions at this time. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Knutson for final comments.

Craig Knutson

All right. Thanks, everyone, for joining our call today, and we'll look forward to speaking with you in February.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.