トリニティ・インダストリーズ(TRN)2026年第3四半期決算説明会:鉄道車両受注増を受けEPSガイダンスを維持
Trinity Industriesの2026年第3四半期決算は、売上高が前年同期比18%増となった一方、営業利益は1億1,500万ドルのネット車両投資などを経て同19%減の9,600万ドルとなった。通期EPS見通しは2.20ドル〜2.40ドルに据え置き、中古市場での車両売却益予想は上方修正された。経営陣は2026年を業界の景気循環上のボトムと予測し、鋼材コスト上昇や関税に関する不確実性がタンク車購入の遅延要因となっているものの、リース事業の堅調な稼働率と鉄道車両需要の改善により長期的な成長を見込んでいる。
Trinity Industries(NYSE: TRN)の2026年第3四半期決算説明会では、鉄道車両需要の改善、製造量の拡大、およびリース事業の継続的な調子が強調されました。経営陣は通期EPS見通しを維持する一方で、中古市場における鉄道車両売却益の予想を引き上げました。
要点
- 第3四半期の売上高は、外部向け鉄道車両納入実績の増加および外部向け保守修理の構成比上昇により、前年同期比で18%増加しました。
- 営業利益は、リースポートフォリオ売却益の減少、販売管理費の増加、および一部所有のリース車両からの利益貢献の減少を反映し、前年同期比19%減の9,600万ドルとなりました。
- 鉄道製品(Rail Products)部門の納入実績は前四半期比29%増の2,030両となり、受注数は2,190両に達し、ブック・ツー・ビル比率(BB ratio)は1倍を超えて推移しました。
- リース車両の稼働率は97%、更新成功率は89%となり、更新時賃料は満期賃料を4.1%上回りました。
- Trinityは通期EPS見通しを2.20ドル〜2.40ドルに維持し、中古市場での鉄道車両売却益の予想を1億8,000万ドル〜2億ドルに引き上げました。
- 経営陣は、現在の業界データに基づき、2026年に業界全体の納入数が通期で2万3,000両強にとどまり、景気循環上のボトムになると予想しています。
主要財務データ
| 指標 | 2026年第3四半期実績 | 増減・背景 |
|---|---|---|
| 売上高 | — | 前年同期比18%増 |
| 営業利益 | 9,600万ドル | 前年同期比19%減 |
| EPS | 0.27ドル | 外部向け納入の増加とセグメント利益率の改善が寄与 |
| 直近12か月調整後ROE | 31.8% | 同社の目標レンジを上回る。パートナーシップ取引益およびオペレーション改善の恩恵を受ける |
| 年初来キャッシュ創出額 | 2億4,300万ドル | 経営陣はキャッシュ創出について「堅調」とコメント |
| 年初来株主還元 | 1億1,900万ドル | 配当および自社株買い |
| 第3四半期の自社株買い | 78万7,000株(2,300万ドル相当) | 当四半期中の機動的な買戻し |
| 第3四半期ネット車両投資額 | 1億1,500万ドル | 1億6,900万ドルの新規追加。一部はリース車両売却による収入5,400万ドルで相殺 |
| 年初来ネット車両投資額 | 2億4,100万ドル | 通期見通しは3億ドル〜3億5,000万ドル |
| 完全所有車両ポートフォリオのLTV(借入比率) | 71.8% | 経営陣による市場価値推計ではなく純帳簿価額ベース |
事業および運用パフォーマンス
リースおよびサービス部門
Napier Parkとのパートナーシップ取引に伴いTrinityの連結保有車両が縮小したため、中核となるリース収入は前年同期比で減少しました。賃料上昇、管理手数料、および直近の車両投資がこの減少を一部相殺しました。
車両稼働率は97%を維持し、満期を迎えたリースの89%が更新されました。更新時賃料は満期時賃料を4.1%上回りました。将来リース料差額(Future Lease Rate Differential)は、Trinityがすでに保有車両の大半を高金利・高賃料環境に合わせて再価格設定しており、当四半期の更新構成比がやや不都合であったため、ほぼ横ばいとなりました。
同セグメントの営業利益率は34.2%でした。経営陣は利益率の圧迫について、利益率の低い保守・サービス業務の成長スピードが速かったためと説明しています。またTrinityは、ジョーンズボロの保守拠点を保管および移動修理拠点に転換する計画で、予想される保守量は残る4拠点にてカバーします。
10月、TrinityはRubber Lining Specialists, LLCの資産を取得しました。この取引により、ラバーライニング加工された鉄道タンク車の点検・修理・防護機能が拡張されます。経営陣によると、北米全体で約1万1,000両の同種タンク車が稼働しており、この買収規模はノンマテリアル(重要性が低い)であるとしています。
鉄道製品部門
鉄道製品部門の納入数は前四半期比29%増の2,030両となりました。受注総数は2,190両で、ブック・ツー・ビル比率は1倍以上を維持し、355両の車両改修を完了しました。
同セグメントは、ロングビュー施設の一部の売却による1,340万ドルの利益を含め、9%の利益率を記録しました。この利益を除くと利益率は5.1%となり、第2四半期から大幅に改善しました。経営陣は事業の営業レバレッジ効果により、生産量の増加に伴って利益率がさらに向上すると引き続き予想しています。
Trinityは、ロングビューにある2つの拠点を1つの近代的なタンク車生産拠点に統合を進めています。経営陣は、このプロジェクトにより自動化が導入され、効率性、生産性、生産能力が向上すると見込んでいます。
鉄道車両市場の市況
経営陣によると、鉄道の積載量は前年同期比3%増加した一方、休車中の鉄道車両割合は18%に低下し、2023年5月以来の低水準となりました。10月は北米の鉄道車両保有数が17か月連続で減少した月となりました。
Trinityは、2026年に業界全体の納入予想が2万3,000両強であるのに対し、約4万両の鉄道車両が廃車されると見込んでいます。受注ペースの趨勢は前四半期比で40%増加しており、鉄道会社、リース会社、荷主全般にわたって需要が拡大しています。農業および化学が最も好調な最終需要市場として挙げられました。
経営陣による業績見通し(ガイダンス)
| ガイダンス項目 | 経営陣の見通し |
|---|---|
| 2026年通期EPS | 2.20ドル〜2.40ドル |
| 2026年の業界全体での鉄道車両納入数 | 2万5,000両未満。経営陣の現在の予測は2万3,000両強 |
| 通期ネット車両投資額 | 3億ドル〜3億5,000万ドル |
| 製造事業の設備投資額 | 5,500万ドル〜6,500万ドル |
| 鉄道製品部門の通期利益率 | 5%〜6% |
| 中古市場における鉄道車両売却益 | 1億8,000万ドル〜2億ドル |
EPSの見通しには、ロングビュー施設の売却益1,340万ドルに伴う1株当たり約0.12ドルの恩恵が含まれています。経営陣はこの売却について、期初に開示したガイダンスにすでに織り込み済みであったと説明しました。
Trinityは2027年の公式ガイダンスを提供しませんでした。経営陣は、2026年の景気循環上のボトム予測に対し、2027年の業界納入数は3万〜3万5,000両になるとの予備的な見方を示しました。
リスクおよび注目点
- 熱延コイルおよび厚鋼板の価格は前年同期比で63%上昇し、製鉄所のリードタイムは2倍に伸び、納入が2〜4週間遅延しています。
- 鋼材コストの上昇と金利高が新規タンク車のコストを押し上げており、顧客の意志決定遅延につながっています。
- Trinityは米国通商拡大法232条に基づく関税に関して米国税関・国境警備局からの明確化を待っており、現時点では同関税を支払っていないと述べています。
- 経営陣は、現在の枠組みにおいて米国で溶解・鋳造された鋼材を85%以上使用したタンク車は10%の関税が課される可能性があり、85%未満の場合は25%になると考えています。Trinityは新規タンク車受注の交渉において10%の関税率を組み込んでいます。
- Union Tank Carはメキシコから輸入される鉄道タンク車を対象に不当廉売(アンチダンピング)関税および相殺関税の申請を行いました。Trinityはこの主張に反論しており、手続きの最終完了は2027年末頃までかかる見通しであるとしています。
- 経営陣は、関税や貿易政策をめぐる不確実性が一部のタンク車購入決定の遅れにつながっているものの、既存の受注残における納期遅延や変更は生じていないと述べました。
アナリストQ&Aのハイライト
経営陣は、中古市場における売却益見通しの引き上げについて、鉄道車両の資産価値の力強さが継続していることおよび活発な取引実績によるものと説明しました。金利上昇にもかかわらず、Trinityは中古市場における評価額の低下に直面しておらず、買主が将来のより高い賃料設定を前提に引き受けていることを示しています。
リース賃料について、経営陣は将来リース料差額の横ばい推移はファンダメンタルズの悪化ではなく、すでに高水準に再設定されたリースとの比較を反映したものであると述べました。高水準の稼働率、鉄道輸送量の改善、車両保有数の縮小、代替コストの上昇により、長期的にはリース賃料が上昇するとの経営陣の予想が引き続き裏付けられています。
需要に関して、経営陣は足元の受注増加が鉄道会社、リース会社、エンド荷主全般に及んでいると述べました。現時点では貨車需要がタンク車需要よりも旺盛ですが、これは関税および関連する貿易の不確実性がタンク車の購入決定により大きな重荷となっていることも一因です。
決算説明会文字起こし全文
決算説明会の完全なトランスクリプト
経営陣による説明
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Trinity Industries Third Quarter Ended September 30, 2026 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that today's event is being recorded. Before we get started, let me remind you that today's conference call contains forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and include statements as to estimates, expectations, intentions and predictions of future financial performance.
Statements that are not historical facts are forward-looking. Participants are directed to Trinity's Form 10-K and other SEC filings for a description of certain of the business issues and risks, a change in any of which could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Leigh Anne Mann, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Leigh Mann
Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for the company's third quarter 2026 financial results conference call. Our prepared remarks will include comments from Jean Savage, Trinity's Chief Executive Officer and President; and Eric Marchetto, the company's Chief Financial Officer.
We will hold a Q&A session following the prepared remarks from our leaders. During the call today, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial metrics. The reconciliations of the non-GAAP metrics to comparable GAAP measures are provided in the appendix of the quarterly investor slides, which are accessible on our Investor Relations website at www.trin.net.
These slides are under the Events and Presentations portion of the website, along with the third quarter earnings conference call event link. A replay of today's call will be available after 10:30 a.m. Eastern Time through midnight on November 5, 2026. Replay information is available under the Events and Presentations page on our Investor Relations website. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Jean.
E. Savage
Thank you, Leigh Anne Mann, and good morning, everyone. We delivered a solid third quarter with momentum building across the business, and Trinity is well positioned as we move toward year-end. Our leasing fundamentals remain strong. Our manufacturing volumes are improving, and our cash generation continues to support disciplined capital allocation.
Our last 12 months adjusted return on equity was 31.8%, helped by transaction gains and operational improvements. I'll start by walking you through what we're seeing in the market. Macro dynamics are very supportive of future growth in railcar orders. We have seen year-over-year carload volume increase by 3%, and this is across a variety of categories.
Scrap rates are also elevated, and the industry is on track to scrap approximately 40,000 railcars in 2026, well above expected new railcar production. Railcars in storage continued to decline and currently stand at 18%, the lowest reading since May 2023. This metric measures the share of railcars that have not made a revenue move in 60 days or more.
October also marked the 17th consecutive month of fleet contraction, a trend that continues across a wide variety of car types. Against that backdrop, it is encouraging to see demand firming, with trending order rates up 40% quarter-over-quarter and inquiries remaining strong. We see the market from both sides with customers order for new railcar deliveries and about 20,000 lease renewals and 5,000 railcar assignments each year.
That insight allows us to adjust rates as conditions evolve and continue to expand our spread over our cost of capital. I'll take you through both segments, starting with leasing and services.
Our leasing and services business performed well in the third quarter. Core leasing revenue was down year-over-year, reflecting a smaller consolidated fleet following the railcar partnership transactions we completed over the last year. The decrease was partially offset by higher rents, higher management fees and the fleet investment we have made over the last year.
Our lease fleet utilization was 97%, and our renewal success rate was 89%, with renewal rates 4.1% above expiring rates. The Future Lease Rate Differential or FLRD, was essentially flat this quarter, driven by higher expiring rates and a less favorable renewal mix, largely the result of having repriced nearly our entire fleet into a higher rate environment.
Lease rates have not yet kept pace with asset values and inflation. We are focused on maximizing the yield on our assets and the environment remains favorable for continued lease rate increases. Our Leasing and Services segment operating margin of 34.2% reflects a higher percentage of segment activity coming from lower-margin businesses, such as maintenance and services as those areas continue to grow.
Over the last few years, we have improved the performance of our maintenance network to navigate the increase in tank car compliance work. As this work moderates, we announced plans to repurpose our Jonesboro maintenance facility to a storage and mobile repair facility.
Current and expected volume can be efficiently supported across our remaining 4 facilities, which allows us to improve utilization across the network. Working with local and state resources, we are supporting our affected employees to help identify alternative opportunities. Net fleet investment in the quarter was $115 million, bringing our year-to-date total to $241 million.
The secondary market remains very active and strong, and we continue to participate as both a buyer and a seller. I also want to highlight a small acquisition we completed in October. We acquired the assets of Rubber Lining Specialists, LLC, an Orange, Texas-based provider of specialized rubber lining, corrosion and abrasion protection, inspection and repair services.
This acquisition expands our capabilities in supporting and servicing rubber-lined railcars. In Rail Products, we are encouraged by the momentum in the market. We increased deliveries by 29% sequentially and still recorded a book-to-bill above 1x with orders of 2,190 and deliveries of 2,030 in the quarter. We also completed 355 railcar conversions.
Higher steel prices should support more conversions in the future. Segment revenue reflects the higher delivery volumes. Segment margin in the quarter was 9%, which benefited from a gain on the sale of a portion of our Longview facility. Without the $13.4 million gain, segment margin would have been 5.1%, a significant step-up from the second quarter. We continue to expect a full year segment margin between 5% and 6%. This business benefits from significant operating leverage, and we would expect to see the margin improve as volumes rise.
As we discussed last quarter, we are undertaking a large project to modernize and consolidate our Longview tank car facility. This project is ongoing and progressing well. It reflects our strategic decision made a year ago to expand our U.S. manufacturing footprint, a decision we especially value given today's uncertain trade policy environment.
Before turning the call to Eric, I want to address the antidumping and countervailing duty petition filed by Union Tank Car, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. with the U.S. Department of Commerce and the U.S. International Trade Commission, targeting imports of railway tank cars from Mexico.
Our Monclova, Mexico facility has been an integral part of our North American railcar manufacturing network since 1998, and Trinity has also produced more than 73,000 tank cars in the United States over the last 15 years. Our U.S. and Mexico facilities produce high-quality tank cars to meet our customers' needs. Trinity is a significant purchaser of American-made steel, which we ship to our facilities in Mexico for incorporation into the tank cars that Union Tank Car alleges to be dumped and subsidized.
Our facilities serve customer demand across North America as part of a fully integrated supply chain. We disagree with the petition's allegations and are vigorously defending our position, and we will fully cooperate with Commerce and ITC as they complete their review of the facts.
Let me leave you with 3 points. First, our cash generation has let us grow the fleet, invest in our U.S. manufacturing footprint and return capital to shareholders. Second, the market is tightening. Orders are up, scrapping is running well ahead of new deliveries, and we believe 2026 is a cyclical low for industry deliveries. Third, we are focused on delivering for our customers across North America. I want to take a moment to thank our team members for their hard work this quarter and for keeping customers first. Now I'll turn it over to Eric.
Eric Marchetto
Thank you, Jean, and good morning, everyone. Starting with the income statement. Revenues were up 18% year-over-year, driven by an increase in external deliveries and a higher mix of external repairs in our maintenance business, partially offset by the reduction in the size of our consolidated lease fleet following the Napier Park transactions. Operating profit was $96 million, down 19% from prior year. This was driven by lower gains on lease portfolio sales, higher SG&A expense and a reduction in operating profit contribution from the partially owned lease fleets as a result of the railcar partnership transactions.
These reductions were partially offset by a $13.4 million gain on the sale of a manufacturing facility in the Rail Products Group. Our tax rate in the third quarter was 29%, which is higher as a result of income taxes from our foreign operations and third quarter EPS was $0.27, benefited by higher external railcar deliveries and higher segment margin performance. Our last 12 months adjusted return on equity was 31.8%, above our target range. This metric benefited from the gains on the railcar partnership transactions, but it also reflects improving operational performance.
Moving to the cash flow statement. Cash generation remains strong with $243 million year-to-date. We continue to prioritize return of capital to our shareholders, and we paid our 250th consecutive dividend in the quarter. We were also opportunistic in the quarter, repurchasing 787,000 shares for $23 million.
Year-to-date, we have returned $119 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Net fleet investment in the third quarter was $115 million with $169 million of fleet additions, partially offset by proceeds of $54 million of leased railcar sales. We remained very active in the robust secondary market, both as a buyer and a seller. Year-to-date, net fleet investment totals $241 million. We expect to complete the year ahead of our 3-year target of $1.2 billion to $1.4 billion for cash generation, which includes cash from operations and gains on leased railcar sales.
With 1 quarter remaining in the planning period, we have generated $1.4 billion of cash from operations and gains on railcar sales. This significant cash generation demonstrates the capabilities of our platform in a low railcar demand environment and also gives us flexibility in our capital allocation decisions.
Turning to our balance sheet. Our loan-to-value on our wholly-owned fleet is 71.8%. We are comfortable at this level because the denominator is based on the net book value of our fleet, which is much lower than the market value of our fleet. This is supported by our current lease fleet financing activity.
In October, we closed a new $350 million TRL 2026 term loan. Net proceeds from the transaction were used to redeem the outstanding Series 2019-2 secured railcar equipment notes of Trinity Rail Leasing 2019 LLC and to repay borrowings under TILC's warehouse loan facility.
We are happy with the execution of this refinancing and continue to see support from capital markets in a rising rate environment. Jean mentioned the North American fleet is modestly contracting while rail traffic is growing across most car types, and this sets up an interesting dynamic for the future outlook of our business.
Railcars are long-lived assets that maintain their economic utility throughout the railcar life. Further than that, our fleet of 100,000 railcars with an average age of 15 years has similar utilities as a fleet of new railcars. In other words, railcars are long-lived assets with low obsolescence. Let me turn to lease rates. Since coming out of the COVID pandemic, we've repriced most of our fleet. As we move forward, we see an environment where there continues to be upward pressure on rail asset prices, mainly a result of higher input costs, namely steel. These asset prices, coupled with rising interest rates will continue to push up lease rates on new railcars. The combination of all these factors make us very bullish that lease rates will continue to increase from current rates.
Now I'd like to share our outlook and guidance for the remainder of the year. We expect the industry to deliver below 25,000 railcars in 2026. With 1 quarter remaining, the industry has delivered 16,000 railcars this year. We're not providing formal guidance for 2027. We expect 2026 to be the cyclical low point for industry deliveries. We expect to complete the year with net fleet investment in the range of $300 million to $350 million.
Notably, this quarter, we achieved our 3-year target for net lease fleet investment of $750 million to $1 billion, which we introduced at our 2024 Investor Day. We expect manufacturing capital expenditures in the range of $55 million to $65 million, unchanged from last quarter. And finally, we are holding our full year EPS guidance of $2.20 to $2.40.
We have seen opportunities in the secondary market and are increasing our secondary market railcar gains expectations for the year to a range of $180 million to $200 million, reflecting higher expected cash gains in the fourth quarter than we have seen this year. In the fourth quarter, we expect to see higher external deliveries to meet customer commitments.
To summarize, we generated strong cash flow, achieved our 3-year net fleet investment and cash flow targets and continued to strengthen our balance sheet. Our ability to execute in a slow new railcar market gives us conviction that this platform is built to deliver strong performance as the market recovers. Our capital allocation priorities are unchanged: disciplined fleet investment, active portfolio management and return of capital to shareholders. Operator, we are now ready for our first question.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And today's first question will come from Andrzej Tomczyk with Goldman Sachs.
質疑応答
Andrzej Tomczyk
Just wanted to touch on the gain on sale to start within manufacturing. I think you said $13 million of EBIT and ex that gain, it was a 5.1% margin. I'm curious, one, just from an EPS perspective, is that roughly $0.12 of earnings? And would you back that out of your sort of $0.20 that you reported, just to clarify that. And then maybe just talk to the sale of that facility, what drove that? And if there are more sales to come in the future or if this is sort of more onetime-ish?
E. Savage
Sure, Andre. I'll start and then let Eric chime in on this one. When you look at Longview, we used to have 2 plants in the city that we were running. It wasn't efficient to move that product. We actually had to truck it across town to finish the operations.
So we decided last year that we were going to go ahead and consolidate it into one location. That would help us overall with efficiency, productivity and cost. And while we're doing that, we're also doing a lot of automation into that factory. So we're improving the overall process.
By doing that, that opened up that other facility. We call it Plant 200 in Longview and allowed us to sell that to a third party. We're not expecting to have that happen again for the Longview operation, but it is very beneficial for us. It allows us to have more flexibility and actually even increase the volume we could produce at Longview when this project completes. And I'll let Eric talk to you about the numbers.
Eric Marchetto
Yes. In terms of the numbers, Andre, yes, the $0.12 and then further, it is included in our EPS guide. We did not adjust that sale. We have had these sales from time to time. Our position is that it's fairly routine for us to sell these things. We call it out so that you can make your own determination on things. But we have a pretty high standard on what we use to adjust for any formal adjustments that we make to our GAAP earnings.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Understood. So it sounds like the $2.20 to $2.40 includes that $0.12.
Eric Marchetto
It does, yes, to be clear.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Okay. Cool. Got it. And then -- so I just -- you mentioned that the demand was firming with the order rates up 40% quarter-over-quarter. It sounds like a good sign. Could you just speak to the types of customers putting in these orders, whether that's more lessors or shippers? And then maybe any color on the types of cars being ordered in this environment as well would be helpful.
E. Savage
Sure, Andre. When you look at it, we are really happy to see inquiries remaining strong. When you look at the customers, it is railroads, it is lessors and it is the end shippers that are ordering. It is more prevalent, widespread in freight car orders and pretty broad-based on what we're seeing.
If you look at agriculture and chemical, those 2 remain the strongest areas that we're seeing it. A lot of it is still replacement demand. This year, we're talking about 40,000 cars being scrapped and less than 25,000 new cars being built. So market is staying very tight overall. In tank cars, we are seeing some tank cars but some of the headwinds we're seeing there, I don't know if you realize, steel prices have gone up 63% year-over-year in the hot-rolled coil and plate arena.
The steel mills are pushing out their lead times. They've doubled them, and they're missing those by still 2 to 4 weeks on delivery. So we're seeing a little bit of strain there. And I think that's across multiple industries from the steel side. But steel prices going up, the interest rates going up. And also when you look at the uncertainty around some of the tariffs, some of the tank car owners and those who would be putting the orders are still delaying some of those decisions.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Got it. And with your revised industry delivery forecast, I think you mentioned below 25,000 units. Any magnitude for sort of how far below 25,000? And then just what does that imply for Trinity's internal delivery pace here into the fourth quarter? And then maybe sort of thoughts on the run rate into 2027 to start would be appreciated as well.
E. Savage
Okay. So when you look at it, we just took ARCI numbers for the 3 quarters and projected out fourth quarter, and it came in just over 23,000 cars. So that's the number we're using there.
We expect to have higher deliveries for our units in the fourth quarter. And in the past, I've said 35,000 units for next year. Based off of the delivery rate and the order rates, I'm now saying between 30,000 and 35,000 cars, we believe we will deliver next year. So still up significantly from this year. And I think in our prepared remarks, you heard us say we're calling the cyclical low in '26.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Very helpful. I just wanted to touch on the tariff situation as well following the proclamation updates applying tariffs to the full customs value of imported tank cars and the components.
Could you just clarify whether Trinity is currently paying cash for the Section 232 tariffs on the railcars that originate from Mexico? And then maybe just the potential impacts there if you've looked into that? Or is it just the case that shipments are still progressing as normal under your pending ruling and sort of trying to get clarity with the CBP?
And then just following on to that on the commercial side, how receptive are shippers and leasing customers to tariff-related pass-throughs? Has anything like escalation clauses created any friction in signing new multiyear agreements? Anything like that color there would be super helpful.
E. Savage
Okay. First, we are not paying on the 232 currently. We do have clarification request. We're waiting for that from the CBP to see what happens. Remember, we bring cars under USMCA, and we qualify for the entry under that process. If you look at overall what could happen currently, I'm just going to talk about the current situation. I don't know if it will change.
Currently, if you use less than 85% melt and poured U.S. steel, the tariff would be 25% on the tank car. If you use 85% or more U.S. steel on the melt and poured, it would drop to 10% tariff. What we are doing currently is talking to customers. We believe we meet the 85% melt and poured. So it would be at the 10% level.
And as we talk or take new orders with tank cars, we're talking to the customers and building into the 10% tariff. But most of our contracts do allow for that tariff to be passed on if it wasn't in the contract. So that's where we sit overall. As far as what customers are doing, overall, we're still getting orders for tank cars.
We're getting orders for both U.S. and Mexico production. And we talk to them about that. They're very open before we take those orders. But it's 1 of the 3 things. Remember, steel being up, so the cost of tank cars up. Interest rates are up. So again, the cost of a tank car overall for financing is up. And then the uncertainty around tariffs do have some of our customers delaying those decisions.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Understood. And just sort of following on to that related to the antidumping and countervailing duty petitions that were filed by UTLX. Curious if you could just give us a sense of the time line.
I know you guys are going to be obviously vigorously defending your position there. Maybe just a time line around when you expect to hear decisions back? And then are customers pausing order commitments sort of asking about the backlog and if that could be impacted at all? Or is this sort of all up in the air at this point?
E. Savage
Okay. So yes, the proceedings are still very early. We're not predicting the outcome of those or the amount and timing of any of the duties, but we believe it will be late next year before that is finalized. That has not caused anyone to delay orders that we already have in our backlog or ask us to delay. It's also uncertainty, so it could fall into the 232 bucket.
But overall, that's why I said freight car pickup in orders is higher than tank car right now. I think a little of that uncertainty is weighing out there, but we've not seen any changes to orders we already have or delays -- excuse me, asking for delays in production of what we've got in our backlog.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Got it. And then maybe just switching here to leasing. You guys did up the gains forecast. Maybe just talk about that. Is that just a reflection of the secondary market strength ongoing? And if you could just speak to absolute lease rates in the quarter, how they've been progressing, if they've been elevated at high levels, if they're increasing? Maybe any color there would be helpful and appreciated as well.
Eric Marchetto
Yes. Andre, this is Eric. I'll talk about that. We are seeing the secondary market remain quite healthy, quite strong. We did increase our guidance on gains by roughly $20 million at the midpoint for the year. And that's just the activity that we're seeing. We have line of sight on executing on those transactions.
In terms of just a little bit of color on the market, in my prepared remarks, I talked about the inflationary pressures that we're seeing on new railcars -- we're seeing -- I talked about how that's impacting lease rates on new railcars as well.
When you look at the secondary market, it's pretty clear to me that buyers in the secondary market are also underwriting higher lease rates in the future. We have seen higher interest rates, and we have not seen that impact valuations. And that -- the conclusion from that is people are -- investors are underwriting higher rates in the future to offset that, which makes sense. That's what should happen. And I think we're seeing a lot of discipline in the secondary market in terms of underwriting decisions and how they price in the secondary market activity.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Got it. And relatedly, your future lease rate differential, can you talk about just sort of, I think, some moderation there versus last quarter. Is that just a reflection of is that timing of the renewal comparisons rolling off? Or should we read into that related to any major car types that are starting to plateau? Any thoughts there as well would be appreciated.
E. Savage
Sure. As you know, we've repriced the majority of our fleet into the higher rate environment. So we're lapping there. When you also look at the mix of cars, that does affect it from quarter-to-quarter. We're encouraged by what we're seeing in October. One month doesn't make a quarter at all, but we're encouraged to start seeing some of the improvements on that and look forward, as we keep saying, we've got high utilization, high renewal rates. We're scrapping more cars that are being built to replace that.
Market is continuing to tighten. All the input costs are going up along with those interest rates. So we fully expect -- we can't call the exact timing, but fully expect those lease rates to continue to go up.
Eric Marchetto
And rail traffic is improving pretty materially.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Yes. No, that's certainly a good sign there as well. Maybe just lastly for me to close off. You mentioned the small acquisition in October, the Texas-based provider. Can you speak to -- is that a move to get sort of more domestic exposure? Or was that something already in the works? Just curious if you could talk how that adds value to the platform and the strategy and if there are any synergies there to think about?
E. Savage
Sure. Andre, I'll take that. So there are about 11,000 rubber-lined tank cars in the fleets across North America right now. And we have a large portion of those. Getting this allows us to service the market better. So it gives us more opportunity to address not only our fleet, but third-party fleets that have that type of lining and their tank cars. It's not a material move.
It just goes along with our servicing options that we talk about, our maintenance options and expands our capability to take care of those fleets. There's one thing I also want to add in from an earlier question, and that was to do with the sale of Longview 200. We had built that sale into the $2.20 to $2.40 that we gave you at the beginning of the year. So we had some proceeds already built into that number. So I don't want you to think that that's on top of numbers we'd already built.
Andrzej Tomczyk
Thanks for clarification, and appreciate all the time, everybody.
Operator
This will conclude our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jean Savage for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.
E. Savage
Well, thank you for joining us today. As you've heard from our comments, our third quarter reflects a business positioned for growth with momentum building. Our leasing platform continues to perform.
Our manufacturing volumes are improving, and we believe 2026 will mark the cyclical low for industry deliveries. We appreciate your support and look forward to updating you next quarter where we will provide guidance for 2027.
Operator
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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