eGain（EGAN）2026年度第4四半期決算説明会：AI成長と2027年度ガイダンス

主要なポイント

• 2026年度通期の売上高は前年度比3%増の9,110万ドルとなりました。AI顧客向け売上高は20%増加し、AI顧客のARR（年間経常収益）は13%増の5,400万ドルとなり、SaaS ARR全体の72%に達しました。
• 第4四半期の売上高は、従来の対話およびアナリティクス顧客からの減収を反映し、前年同期の2,320万ドルに対し2,220万ドルとなりました。一方、AI顧客向け売上高は前年同期比11%増加しました。
• 2026年度の調整後EBITDAは、2025年度の860万ドル（マージン10%）から1,360万ドル（同15%）に増加しました。営業キャッシュフローは過去最高の2,120万ドルに達しました。
• 2027年度について、経営陣はAI顧客向け売上高が約8%〜10%増の5,950万ドル〜6,050万ドル、総売上高が8,450万ドル〜8,600万ドルになると予想しています。
• 経営陣は、2027年度のAI顧客ARRが約20%成長する一方、レガシー顧客ARRは60%減少すると見込んでいます。AI機会への投資により、調整後EBITDAマージンは1%〜2%に低下する見通しです。
• eGainによると、2026年度の新規顧客獲得件数は27%増加し、ARR換算で50万ドル以上のパイプライン案件数は前年度比で倍増しました。

主要財務データ

会計年度末時点で、AI顧客のARRはSaaS ARR全体の72%を占め、2026年度中間時点の63%から上昇しました。非AIのレガシー顧客との契約縮小に伴い、SaaS ARR全体は前年度比で1%減少しました。

直近12か月間のドルベースの純維持率（ネットレテンション）は、AI顧客で104%となり、前年同期の120%から低下しました。全顧客での純維持率は105%から93%に低下しました。残存履行義務（RPO）合計は5%減の8,700万ドル、短期RPOは2%減の6,200万ドルとなりました。

2026年度中、eGainは平均価格7.16ドルで160万株を1,150万ドルで自社株買いしました。同社は年度末時点で、6,000万ドルの自社株買い上限のうち970万ドルの枠を残しています。

事業および業績の動向

経営陣は、eGainのAIソリューションを1つ以上積極的に導入している顧客を「AI顧客」と定義し、報告の軸をAI顧客を中心に再構築しました。AI顧客のARRおよび売上高には、AI製品自体だけでなく、それらの顧客が購入したすべてのソリューションが含まれます。

2026年度の新規顧客獲得件数は27%増加しました。ARRが50万ドル以上のパイプライン案件数は倍増し、銀行・金融サービス・保険およびヘルスケア分野の案件は40%増加しました。

同社は、Global 2000の見込み客の間で有償パイロット（試用導入）の利用が増加したと報告しました。経営陣は、これらのパイロットを大規模な本番運用へ移行させることを2027年度の最優先課題として掲げています。同社によると、コンプライアンスに特化したあるパイロットでは、セルフサービス解決率95%、ユーザー満足度80%という初期成果が得られました。

新製品の投入には、eGain IVA、eGain Agentic Studio、およびeGain Evaluatorの一般提供開始が含まれます。また、同社はヘルスケア向けeGain AI Knowledge Suiteも導入しました。経営陣は、需要がコンタクトセンターの生産性向上にとどまらず、顧客のセルフサービスやより広範なAIインフラのユースケースへと拡大していると説明しました。

経営陣によると、ガートナーが初めて発行した「カスタマーサービスナレッジマネジメントシステム」のマジック・クアドラントにおいて、eGainは「リーダー」に選出され、「実行能力」で最高位、「ビジョンの完全性」で最上位に位置付けられました。

業績予想（ガイダンス）

経営陣は、2027年度のAI顧客向け売上高の成長率を約8%〜10%と見込んでいます。また、AI顧客のARRは約20%増加すると予想する一方で、レガシー顧客向け売上高は20%減少、レガシー顧客のARRは60%減少すると予測しています。

2030年度に向けて、同社はAI顧客ARRおよび全体のSaaS ARRで1億ドル〜1億2,000万ドルを目指しています。また、AI顧客向け売上高は1億500万ドル〜1億1,500万ドル、総売上高は1億1,000万ドル〜1億2,000万ドルを目標としています。経営陣はそれまでにAI顧客がSaaS ARRのほぼ100%、総売上高の約95%を占めるようになると予想しており、SaaSの粗利益率は80%近くに達し、調整後EBITDAも黒字を維持する見通しです。

リスクと注視すべきポイント

• 従来の対話およびアナリティクス事業の売上が第4四半期業績の重荷となりました。モデリングの観点から、一部の顧客がAIソリューションへ移行する可能性があるものの、経営陣は非AI事業が2030年度までに実質ゼロまで縮小すると見込んでいます。
• 2027年度は、AIの成長と同時にレガシー顧客向け売上高が20%減少すると見込まれるため、総売上高ガイダンスは2026年度の実績を下回る結果となっています。
• 市場開拓（GTM）およびAIへの投資増加により、2027年度の調整後EBITDAマージンは1%〜2%に圧迫され、GAAP純損失が発生する見通しです。
• AI顧客の純維持率は120%から104%に低下しました。経営陣は、前年の数値がJPモルガン・チェースとの大規模な拡張契約の恩恵を受けていたと指摘しました。
• 経営陣は、今後2〜3年間でAIによるSaaS価格への押し下げ圧力が約1〜2ポイント生じる可能性があると見ていますが、新たな付加価値AI製品がその影響の一部を相殺する可能性があります。
• 有償パイロットは拡張の可能性を生み出しますが、これを大規模な本番運用へと移行させることが引き続き実行上の優先課題となります。

アナリストQ&Aの主なポイント

経営陣は、新規顧客の獲得が同社の長期的な成長モデルの主な牽引役となるべきだと語りました。レガシー顧客のAIソリューションへの移行も目標ではあるものの、主要な成長寄与要因になるとは予想されていません。

AIインフラストラクチャのコストについて、最高経営責任者（CEO）のアシュトシュ・ロイ氏は、より正確なナレッジ入力を提供することでトークンコストを大幅に（場合によっては10分の1に）削減できると述べました。また、eGainはコストとパフォーマンスを管理するため、タスクごとに異なるモデルを使用しています。

ロイ氏はさらに、eGainが確認した関連ベンチマークにおいて、フロンティアモデルとオープンソースモデルの品質差は通常10%〜15%程度にとどまる一方、コスト差は10倍以上に達することがあると付け加えました。そのため経営陣は、リアルタイムナレッジ運用によるトークン使用量の増加に伴い、モデルルーティング（タスクに応じたモデルの最適選定）の重要性が高まると予想しています。

決算説明会（アーニングスコール）全トランスクリプト

決算説明会の完全なトランスクリプト

経営陣による説明

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the eGain Fiscal 2026 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Financial Results Call.

[Operator Instructions]

Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jim Byers, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jim Byers

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to eGain's Fiscal 2026 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Financial Results Conference Call. On the call today are eGain's Chief Executive Officer, Ashu Roy; and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Smit.

Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during this conference call, management will make certain forward-looking statements, which convey management's expectations, beliefs, plans and objectives regarding future financial and operational performance. Forward-looking statements are generally preceded by words such as believe, plan, intend, expect, anticipate or similar expressions. Forward-looking statements are protected by safe harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to a wide range of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ in material respects.

Information on various factors that could affect eGain's results are detailed in the company's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. eGain is making these statements as of today, September 3, 2026, and assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of the forward-looking information in this conference call. In addition to GAAP results, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures such as non-GAAP operating income. The tables included with the earnings press release include reconciliation of the historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.

eGain's earnings press release can be found by clicking the Press Releases link on the Investor Relations page of eGain's website at egain.com. And along with the earnings release, we will post an updated investor presentation to the Investor Relations page. And lastly, a phone replay of this conference call will be available for 1 week.

And now with that said, I'd like to turn the call over to eGain's CEO, Ashu Roy.

Ashutosh Roy

Thank you, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone. Right at the end of fiscal 2026, the category we've been building toward for years got a name. In July this year, Gartner published its first ever Magic Quadrant for customer service knowledge management systems and named eGain a leader, positioned highest for ability to execute and furthest for completeness of vision. This inaugural Magic Quadrant matters more than just our position in it. This is the first time a top analyst firm has drawn a sharp boundary around this market and explicitly called out knowledge management for customer service as its own category of enterprise infrastructure.

Now they base it on the volume and kind of client inquiries they get in this area. And therefore, they have chosen to invest Magic Quadrant level resources and attention to it. It's a very important signal for the market and the category that's building around it. As we have said, there's good reason this buying category is emerging now. Generative AI has collapsed the old separation between instruction and data. What an AI agent or agentic workflow does in any live customer or employee assistance conversation is determined entirely by the policies, procedures and know-how it is fed.

When that knowledge is wrong, the AI is confidently wrong. When it's stale, the AI doesn't know it's out of date. So knowledge is no more documentation just for humans to optionally use. It is instruction for AI. Wrong knowledge equals wrong AI. Engineering that instruction layer, governing it, operating it continuously is what we call AI Knowledge ops, a term that Gartner reflected in their Magic Quadrant report as something unique and important that eGain brings to this solution. It is the discipline enterprises are now realizing they cannot skip if they want AI to reliably work in production, not just in pilot.

With this market trend and the analyst acknowledgment, let me walk through how fiscal 2026 came together. Before I do that, let me define a term that we will use moving forward, and that is AI customer. An AI customer is an eGain customer who utilizes one or more of our AI offerings. So with that said, let's look at full year fiscal 2026. Our total revenue grew 3% to $91.1 million. Our AI customer revenue grew 20% year-over-year. AI customer ARR grew 13%, and represented 72% of total SaaS ARR at year-end, up from 63% at the midpoint of fiscal 2026. This is an intentional shift in the shape of our customer base. A growing majority of our SaaS ARR now sits with customers who are using one or more of our AI capabilities.

Turning to new business. Our momentum continued to build. In the fourth quarter, we won several new logos. A couple of examples here. First, a leading European insurance company, they set out to automate their service operation with AI and recognized that they needed to put in place a governed knowledge foundation before they could deploy AI automation at scale. So they selected eGain to modernize their knowledge environment and establish that foundation.

Second, a global multi-energy operator serving millions of customers. They faced a familiar barrier to scaling service, fragmented knowledge leading to inconsistent service quality. They are deploying our knowledge platform and AI agent in one contact center. Based on the successful blueprint from that deployment, they will extend to the rest of their contact centers. They also plan to activate self-service channels and leverage the Knowledge Hub across the entire business.

In addition, we added several new paid pilots this quarter. Increasingly, we see buyers wanting to extensively validate our platform in their own environment before committing to a full rollout, and they're willing to pay for it. This is a shift from where we used to be where we were doing a lot of free quick trials and pilots as part of our innovation in 30 days, the 30-day and no-risk pilot that we have.

Converting these paid pilots into at-scale production rollouts is a focus for us this fiscal year. Give you a couple of examples again. One of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies. Their use case is that their experienced scientists and specialists retire or change roles in their R&D teams and the company risks losing a lot of deep tacit expertise. They're using our AI Knowledge Hub to capture that tacit knowledge on a continuous basis and turn it into valuable knowledge for their AI engine.

Second, a global leader in testing inspection and certification. They were facing a hard regulatory deadline, and they needed accurate instant guidance in a compliance-heavy environment. Early pilot results of our deployment indicate that the AI agents deliver 95% self-service resolution, and it's enjoying a strong 80% customer user satisfaction surveys.

Third, a global leader in gaming technology. They operate in a complex environment where every answer has to be guided and correct. Stepping back to the market, I want to share 2 trends that we see emerging in the last couple of quarters. First, businesses are treating knowledge as core AI infrastructure, and their tech and AI teams are actively building on top of this infrastructure, which drives demand for richer platform capabilities like real-time knowledge APIs and stringent service levels. So our growing developer-facing capabilities on our Composer platform are being well received.

Second trend we see is growing interest in customer self-service projects. Several new logos in the recent quarters have started out with self-service deployments, something we did not see a year ago when it was more common to start with contact center-based use cases. While contact center productivity is still of great interest, we sense that businesses are increasingly driving for ROI at scale on their AI investments.

Moving to business momentum in fiscal 2026. Our new logo wins increased 27% year-over-year. As I mentioned earlier, several of the new logos we acquired in fiscal '26 have paid pilots in Global 2000 accounts, and they have significant upside, something we intend to pursue this fiscal year. Our pipeline opportunities valued at $500,000 ARR or more, doubled in count year-over-year. And our core verticals, which are compliance heavy like banking, financial services, insurance and health care, we grew our opportunities in the pipeline by 40% year-over-year, exactly where a trusted knowledge foundation matters the most.

Turning to products. Our innovation continues to accelerate with focus. Everything we launched in last quarter, which is in Q4 during our London eGain Solve event in May, fueled the cycle of knowledge and AI. First, we're increasingly deploying AI in our platform to dramatically automate knowledge management. And the result of that generation and maintenance of trusted knowledge with low effort then drives better instruction to AI that is being used to reliably automate customer service and customer operations.

So a few of the noteworthy announcements of new capabilities we made in May. The first was the eGain IVA, which is an intelligent voice agent. What's unique about it is that it is using the same trusted knowledge platform as we use for all our digital self-service tools. So that consistency and quality is something that now we can offer as a complete omnichannel self-service offering.

Secondly, our eGain Agentic Studio, which is a zero-code application building environment we have launched so that business users can assemble these service use cases end-to-end, multistep complex processes with every step grounded in verified knowledge using assured tools and actions and invoking human oversight when needed. It's a complete platform for service automation using agentic capabilities.

The third, which we had announced in the past is the eGain Evaluator, which is our continuous evaluation tool for AI pipelines, but that is -- we made it generally available, and it's a capability that's getting a lot of interest from our large customers who are looking to drive continuous quality assurance of their agentic pipelines.

And finally, we announced a new vertical for health care, which is our eGain AI Knowledge Suite for health care. And this is a governed knowledge foundation purpose-built for health plan and health systems. We will build on this momentum at our upcoming Solve event in Chicago on October 13 and 14 this year. We'll lay out our view of the year ahead, the shift from knowledge management to knowledge automation and the value of agentic AI assembly on top of trusted knowledge. And of course, we'll announce new capabilities and hear from our customers and partners.

So in conclusion, our sustained bet on AI knowledge, the market and products in fiscal 2026 is showing results. And so we are doubling down, and we intend to lead this market. With that, I'll turn it over to Eric Smit, our CFO, to take you through the financial details. Eric?

Eric Smit

Thanks, Ashu, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. Before I begin, I'd like to note that we are again using slides to support today's call. We believe this provides helpful context and makes it easier to follow our results and outlook. You can access the slides in the Investor Relations section of our website alongside the webcast.

As Ashu noted, fiscal 2026 demonstrated solid financial execution. Total revenue increased 3% to $91.1 million. AI customer revenue grew 20%. Adjusted EBITDA increased to $13.6 million and cash provided by operating activities reached a record $21.2 million.

I'll review our fourth quarter and full year results, explain the transition in more detail to our customer-based AI metrics and discuss our fiscal 2027 outlook and long-term financial framework.

Starting with the fourth quarter results and starting with revenue. Total revenue was $22.2 million, exceeding both our guidance and Street consensus compared with $23.2 million in the prior year quarter. The year-over-year decline in total revenue primarily reflected the lower revenue from our legacy conversation and analytics customers. AI customer revenue grew 11% year-over-year in the fourth quarter. Looking at gross margins, non-GAAP total gross margin for the quarter was 72% compared to 73% a year ago. Non-GAAP SaaS gross margins were 78% compared to 80% a year ago.

Turning to operating expenses. Non-GAAP operating costs were $14.1 million, up 6% year-over-year and 2% sequentially. Sales and marketing expenses were $5.5 million, up 21% sequentially, reflecting our planned investments in go-to-market initiatives, including the eGain Solve event that we held in London.

Looking at our bottom line, GAAP net income was $1.3 million or $0.05 per basic and diluted share compared with GAAP net income of $30.9 million or $1.13 per basic share and $1.11 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. The prior year results included an approximately $29 million tax benefit from the release of the majority of our valuation allowance. Non-GAAP net income was $2.1 million or $0.08 per share on a basic and diluted basis, exceeding our guidance and Street consensus. This compares with $2.4 million or $0.09 per share on a basic and diluted basis in the year ago quarter.

Adjusted EBITDA was $2.2 million, representing a 10% margin and exceeding our expectations compared to $4.5 million and a 19% margin a year ago. During the quarter, we repurchased 1.4 million shares for $10.1 million at an average price of $7.32 per share.

Turning to our full year results. Looking at our revenue, total revenue was $91.1 million, exceeding our guidance and up 3% year-over-year. Within total revenue, AI customer revenue grew 20% year-over-year. AI customer ARR grew 13% year-over-year and represented 72% of total SaaS ARR at year-end. Looking at gross margins and operating expenses. Non-GAAP total gross margin was 74%, up from 71% in fiscal 2025. Non-GAAP operating costs were $55.3 million compared to $56 million in the prior year.

Turning to the bottom line, balance sheet and cash flows. GAAP net income was $8.9 million or $0.33 per basic share and $0.32 per diluted share compared with $32.3 million or $1.15 per basic share and $1.13 per diluted share in fiscal 2025. As I mentioned, the prior year results included approximately $29 million tax benefit. Non-GAAP net income was $13 million or $0.48 per share on a basic basis and $0.47 per share on a diluted basis, up from non-GAAP net income of $5.7 million or $0.20 per share on a basic and diluted basis in the prior fiscal year.

Adjusted EBITDA increased to $13.6 million, representing a 15% margin, up from $8.6 million and a 10% margin in fiscal 2025. Cash flow from operations reached a record $21.2 million, representing a 23% operating cash flow margin, up from $5.3 million or a 6% operating cash flow margin in fiscal 2025. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $73.3 million at June 30, 2026, compared to $62.9 million at June 30, 2025. During fiscal 2026, we repurchased 1.6 million shares for $11.5 million at an average price of $7.16 per share. At year-end, we had $9.7 million remaining available under the $60 million buyback authorization.

Now turning to our AI customer metrics. As Ashu mentioned, instead of reporting by product hub, going forward, we're now reporting based on whether a customer is actively using one or more of our AI offerings. We call this AI customer ARR and AI customer revenue. And we believe it's a cleaner, more forward-looking way to show our AI adoption spreading across our installed base since many customers now use AI capabilities across multiple parts of our platform rather than within a single hub. This is the framework we'll use going forward.

The strategic rationale is straightforward. We have found that the customers' overall adoption of our AI capabilities, not the specific product SKU or hub they originally purchased is the strongest predictor of long-term retention expansion. To better measure and ultimately maximize that dynamic, we completed a full review of our customer base this year and segmented it into 2 groups: AI customers, meaning those actively engaged with our AI platform and all other customers. This is a meaningful shift in how we think about the business.

Our reporting focus is now on growing ARR per account, which we view as a primary measure of success with a specific mix of products or given customer consumes becomes secondary. We believe this customer base view better reflects how customers deploy our integrated platform, how we manage these relationships and the broader retention and expansion opportunity within our AI customer base. It is now our primary lens for measuring the health of our AI business.

AI customer ARR is defined as total SaaS ARR from customers who are actively utilizing one or more of our AI offerings. This amount includes all offerings associated with the customer and not solely the AI offerings. AI customer revenue is defined as the total revenue generated from customers who actively utilize one or more of our AI offerings, inclusive of their SaaS and professional services revenue. This amount also includes all offerings associated with the customer and not solely the AI offerings.

With that context, here are the metrics. AI customer ARR increased 13% year-over-year and represented 72% of total SaaS ARR at year-end. Total SaaS ARR declined 1% year-over-year, driven by the decline among our legacy non-AI customers.

Turning to our retention rates. Trailing 12-month dollar-based net retention for AI customers was 104% compared to 120% a year ago. As a reminder, we had closed a significant expansion deal with JPMC in Q4 of last fiscal year, which drove that increase in net retention. Net retention for all customers was 93% compared to 105% a year ago. Total remaining performance obligation or RPO of $87 million was down 5% year-over-year and short-term RPO of $62 million was down 2% year-over-year.

Now turning to our outlook. Starting with guidance for the first quarter of fiscal 2027. We expect AI customer revenue of between $13.7 million to $14 million and total revenue of between $20.9 million and $21.4 million.

Turning to the bottom line. For Q1, we expect GAAP net income of $500,000 to $1 million or $0.02 to $0.04 per share, which includes stock-based compensation expense of approximately $900,000. We expect non-GAAP net income of $1.4 million to $2 million or $0.05 to $0.08 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $1.4 million to $1.9 million or a margin of 7% to 9%. For the fiscal year ending June 30, 2027, we expect AI customer revenue of between $59.5 million to $60.5 million, representing growth approximately of 8% to 10%. Total revenue to be between $84.5 million and $86 million.

Our outlook reflects 2 different trends within the business. We expect continued growth from AI customers alongside an estimated 20% decline in revenue from our profitable legacy customers. We are using the cash generation from this non-core business to fund investments in the larger AI opportunity. We expect ARR from AI customers to grow approximately 20% in fiscal 2027, while ARR from legacy customers is expected to decline by 60%.

On the bottom line, we expect GAAP net loss of $2 million to $3 million or $0.08 to $0.11 per share. This includes stock-based comp expense of approximately $4 million, non-GAAP net income of $1 million to $2 million or $0.04 to $0.07 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $650,000 to $1.4 million or a margin of 1% to 2%. We expect weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 26.6 million for the first quarter and 26.8 million for the full fiscal 2027.

Today, we are also introducing a long-term financial model that lays out our targets through fiscal 2030. As we complete our transition to a higher-growth AI-led business, we see fiscal '27 through fiscal '29 as a transition period with total revenue growing both increasingly converging with AI customer revenue growth and fiscal 2030 is a year that convergence is largely complete.

Now turning to our long-term financial model. For fiscal 2030 relative to fiscal 2026, we are targeting AI customer ARR of between $100 million to $120 million, up from $54 million in fiscal 2026, a 17% to 22% CAGR as AI ARR compounds towards scale. Total SaaS ARR of $100 million to $120 million, up from $75 million in fiscal 2026, reflecting substantially complete runoff of non-AI ARR and migration to AI.

For AI customer ARR, we expect that's going to represent approximately 100% of total SaaS ARR, up from 72% in fiscal 2026, effectively a pure-play AI ARR base with increasing contribution from our AI business. AI customer revenue of $105 million to $115 million, representing a 17% to 20% CAGR from the $55 million we generated in fiscal 2026 and a 20% plus growth year-over-year by fiscal 2030, making our underlying AI revenue growth increasingly visible in our total results. And total revenue of $110 million to $120 million, representing approximately 15% to 20% growth year-over-year by fiscal 2030, with total company growth now closely mirroring our AI growth.

AI customer revenue representing approximately 95% of total revenue, up from 60% in 2026, supporting a higher quality valuation framework and SaaS gross margins of approximately 80%, maintaining our attractive software margin profile and adjusted EBITDA margin that remains positive while we fund AI growth, a deliberate balance between growth investments and profitability discipline.

We believe our leadership in AI-powered knowledge management, expanding market opportunity and increased go-to-market investment position eGain to pursue durable growth while maintaining an attractive profitability profile.

So to summarize, in closing, AI customer revenue and ARR both grew at double-digit rates in fiscal 2026, and we completed the shift to a customer level reporting that we believe gives investors a clearer view of the business and strengthens our positioning following Gartner's naming of eGain a leader in the inaugural Magic Quadrant for Customer Service Knowledge Management Systems. We also delivered total revenue growth, strong profitability and record operating cash flow in fiscal 2026.

With our strong balance sheet and cash generation, including the cash we generated from our declining but profitable legacy offerings, we are all in on the AI knowledge opportunity, investing to build on that position and pursue sustainable long-term growth.

Lastly, as Ashu mentioned, we will be hosting an Investor Day and Analyst Day in conjunction with our upcoming eGain Solve customer event on October 13 in Chicago. Additional information and registration details are available on our website. This event is a great opportunity for prospective investors and analysts to meet with customers and learn more about our business. We hope you can join us.

With that, I would like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Our first question comes from Jeff Van Rhee with Craig-Hallum.

質疑応答

Vijay Homan

This is Vijay on for Jeff. First one for me, just in the target model and kind of here in the prepared remarks, you talked a little bit about running off the non-AI ARR. Is there a time line for that in mind kind of similar to what you had with the messaging business? And then just how does the profitability of those businesses compare to the rest of the business?

Eric Smit

Thanks for that. Yes. So for clarification, if you -- as we sort of described in the model, the expectation is the non-AI business should be substantially -- the goal, obviously, is to convert some of that into the AI business. But from a modeling standpoint, we'd expect that to be to 0 as we get to the 2030 time frame.

Vijay Homan

Got it. And then you talked a little bit on previous earnings calls about some of the potential impacts of AI more generally on the business, maybe pricing pressure on SaaS products. Are you seeing that show up in the business at all? Or is that still kind of expected later down the line?

Ashutosh Roy

This is Ashu here. So I would say that we are seeing some pressure of that, but we are also seeing our ability to create new product offerings, which layer on kind of additional revenue from these value-added AI capabilities. So all in all, the effect has not been as significant as I would have feared. Yet, I mean, we are prepared for it. We do think that there may be -- my sense is 1 or 2 points pressure over the next 2 to 3 years is how I see it. But Eric, do you have anything more to add?

Eric Smit

Exactly. Yes, I think that's sort of aligned at this stage. I think given the construction layer that this is building, it's sort of creating opportunities that are different from what we would have seen historically as well, which I think will obviously impact sort of the way the pricing we approach this.

Vijay Homan

Yes. Got it. And then just for the target model, obviously, I appreciate having that out there. As you look at the growth profile, is there any way you can segment that as far as if you expect 15% or 20% growth, how much of that will be maybe price or new customer adds or adding seats to existing customers or reducing churn? Just what do you think the biggest kind of drivers there will be?

Eric Smit

So I think most of the driver will come from new logo acquisition. I think when we look at the opportunity in front of us, especially with now the backdrop that we're seeing with the Gartner MQ, I think this investment to drive the brand awareness and scale up the customer base will be the primary driver. Obviously, we will work hard to move customers that are in the legacy bucket, but that will not be the primary driver for this growth.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Our next question comes from Erik Suppiger with B. Riley.

Unknown Analyst

This is [ Ethan White ] calling on for Erik. Just one question from me. As companies adopt an ecosystem of AI models rather than just using one of the frontier models, does that dynamic create more demand for a knowledge management solution? Can you maybe speak to that dynamic a little more?

Ashutosh Roy

Yes, I'll take that, Eric. Yes, you're right. What we are seeing now is in the last month or so, I'm sure you've seen as well, a lot of talk about people running into sort of token runaway costs and also just cost of AI as the adoption has been pushed hard in enterprises. And what we see with our approach to it is just by being sharper in what you are feeding into these AI tools, you can keep the costs down significantly, sometimes by a factor of 10.

So it's a big advantage by being more precise in how you instruct and guide rather than throwing the kitchen sink of content and context into these models. So that's one thing we see as a very interesting advantage that we bring to the party.

The second one is that we even internally inside the platform tend to be smart about using, if you will, horses for courses, the right models for the right need. And we see that as another way of managing the AI token cost for our clients.

Unknown Analyst

And maybe just one little follow-up. Does that dynamic matter at all in kind of the big frontier models versus open source? Or is that relevant?

Ashutosh Roy

It does matter to some extent, the quality advantage, as you know, in terms of benchmarks and stuff is probably not more than 10% to 15% for most of the relevant benchmarks that we are looking at. And the cost difference can be more than a factor of 10. So yes, it does matter. And what we see is as businesses are doing more and more real-time continuous operation to ensure that their knowledge and know-how is always up to date, and that's going to drive up token usage, and that will then require smarter routing to the relevant capable models.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

At this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the conference back over to eGain management for any closing remarks.

Eric Smit

Thanks, operator, and thanks, everyone, for joining the call today. And again, I encourage all of you out there to look at joining us at the event in Chicago, again, details on the website. Thank you.

Operator

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