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加州水务集团 (CWT) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会:营收增长6.7%,资本支出达4.25亿美元

TradingKey2026年10月29日 20:05
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加州水务服务集团2026年第三季度及前九个月营收与盈利均实现增长,主要得益于费率上调、新客户增加及监管账户收入。期内资本支出达4.25亿美元,预计到2028年底费率基数将增至约35亿美元。公司计划于11月15日前后申请加州4900万美元阶梯式费率上调,并预计在年底前完成对Nexus Water的收购。董事会宣布发放每股0.34美元的季度股息,全年指引股息较2025年增长8.1%。尽管面临通胀、供应链成本上升及天气等因素带来的运营压力,公司融资保障及资本部署整体进展顺利。

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加州水务服务集团(NYSE: CWT)公布,在费率上调、新客户增加及监管账户收入推动下,第三季度和前九个月的营收与盈利均实现增长。管理层还概述了持续的资本部署、收购进展以及延续至2027年的融资保障。

核心要点

  • 2026财年第三季度营收同比增长6.7%至3.322亿美元,净利润升至6540万美元,稀释后每股收益达1.05美元。
  • 前九个月营收增长9.6%至8.553亿美元。今年迄今净利润为1.259亿美元,即稀释后每股收益2.07美元。
  • 第三季度资本支出总计1.48亿美元,今年迄今达4.25亿美元。管理层预计,若按计划按时完成投资,到2028年底费率基数将实现近12%的复合年增长率,达到约35亿美元。
  • CWT预计将在11月15日前后寻求2027年加州阶梯式费率上调。潜在可获得的金额约为4900万美元,但需通过与获批资本部署挂钩的收益测试。
  • 俄勒冈州和内华达州的监管批准使公司有望在年底前完成对Nexus Water的收购。预计一次性整合成本为700万至900万美元。
  • 董事会宣布发放其连续第327次季度股息,为每股0.34美元,使2026年的指引股息达到每股1.34美元,较2025年增长8.1%。

关键财务业绩

指标2026财年第三季度2025财年第三季度变动 / 主要驱动因素
营收3.322亿美元3.112亿美元增长6.7%;其中包括来自新客户的2210万美元和来自RBOMA变动的390万美元,但被用水量减少导致的440万美元部分抵消
净利润6540万美元6120万美元税前利润增加,但被税费增加及投资收益降低部分抵消
稀释后每股收益1.05美元1.03美元包含ATM股票增发带来的稀释效应
运营费用2.495亿美元2.406亿美元增长3.7%;其他运营成本包括节水计划支出增加280万美元
资本支出1.48亿美元—今年迄今投资额达4.25亿美元
指标2026财年前九个月2025财年前九个月变动 / 主要驱动因素
营收8.553亿美元7.802亿美元增长9.6%;费率上调和新客户增加了5190万美元
净利润1.259亿美元1.167亿美元营业利润增加,但被税费、投资表现及收购费用部分抵消
稀释后每股收益2.07美元1.96美元尽管增发新股仍实现增长
运营费用6.836亿美元6.350亿美元增长约7.6%;制水成本上涨14.1%

今年迄今的营收还包括来自临时费率备忘录账户的1570万美元、确认剩余递延水费收入调节机制(Water Revenue Adjustment Mechanism)收入的990万美元以及来自RBOMA的390万美元收入。

业务与运营表现

加州水务服务集团在2026财年前九个月投资了4.25亿美元。管理层表示,资本计划促使总资本投资实现了约11%的10年复合年增长率。

假设计划项目按时完成,该公司预计到2028年底其费率基数将达到约35亿美元,预计复合年增长率接近12%。

CWT预计在加利福尼亚州、新墨西哥州和华盛顿州开展的PFAS项目总资本投资约2.28亿美元。公司在第三季度为水处理和水井更换项目投资了4750万美元,并计划开展65个项目,其中包括18个正在建设中的加州站点。诉讼净追回资金总计5940万美元,将用于抵消项目成本。

最近的监管进展包括:

  • 华盛顿州10月1日生效的410万美元营收增加。
  • 公司夏威夷系统190万美元的营收增加。
  • 加州批准了一项涵盖约1.3亿美元PFAS相关资本成本的告知函(advice-letter)审批程序。
  • 由于未触发穆迪公用事业债券指数调整机制,Cal Water 2027年10.27%的股本回报率继续获得批准。获批的费率基数回报率保持在7.46%,资本结构为53.4%的股权和46.6%的债权。

继内华达州于8月批准后,俄勒冈州公用事业委员会也批准了Nexus Water交易的控制权变更。管理层预计俄勒冈州和内华达州的收购将在2026年底前完成。在得克萨斯州,公司表示BVRT费率案决议已被列入委员会11月5日的议程。截至第三季度,BVRT今年迄今的客户数量增长了12%。

管理层展望

管理层预计将在11月15日前后申请加州阶梯式费率上调。预计可获得金额约为4900万美元,但回收资金取决于与公司先前获批资本项目执行情况挂钩的收益测试。

CWT预计将在年底前完成对Nexus Water的收购。预计一次性整合成本为700万至900万美元,将在2026年和2027年期间产生。

公司表示,已完成和已承诺的融资应能支持短期债务偿还、持续投资以及俄勒冈州和内华达州收购项目资金需求至少到2027年上半年。在问答环节中,管理层指出融资能力可能会延伸至2027年第三季度。

股息方面,管理层阐述了年增长率约7%、派息率50%至60%的规划框架,同时指出派息率在加州为期三年的费率案周期内可能会有所波动。

风险与关注事项

通胀仍是成本压力来源。管理层表示,燃料成本同比上涨约20%至30%,影响了拥有近1,000辆汽车的车队。材料成本也有所上涨,但公司表示这些压力在运营预算范围内仍可控。

由于天气、许可和环保审查延迟,不同年份之间的资本支出可能会不均衡。管理层警告称,与预期的超级厄尔尼诺现象相关的强降雨可能会放缓施工进度,从而促使公司努力在第四季度加快项目推进。

批发水价上涨增加了今年迄今的制水费用,而用户用水量减少使第三季度营收减少了440万美元。《减税与就业法案》(Tax Cuts and Jobs Act)优惠政策的按计划减少也增加了税收费用。

其他短期盈利压力包括收购与整合成本、非合格福利计划投资收益下降以及股票增发带来的稀释。管理层表示,收购整合成本无法转嫁给客户。

分析师问答要点

通胀与供应链:管理层表示,主要问题在于投入成本上升,而非产品供应问题。CWT在疫情期间加强了供应链并提前采购了部分库存,使其在物资供应方面处于更好地位。

2027年融资:该公司在第三季度通过其ATM股票增发计划筹集了4980万美元,并达成了预计将产生另外7780万美元净收益的远期销售协议。公司还在控股公司层面安排了1.25亿美元的无担保债券,以及1.5亿美元到期日为2031年至2050年的Cal Water抵押债券。

资本执行:管理层建议投资者基于加州的三年费率周期而非单一年度来评估资本部署。虽然许可审批、环保审查和天气可能会改变项目进度,但公司的目标是实现每年约10%至11%的资本增长。

股息框架:管理层表示,其规划以约7%的股息增长下限和50%至60%的派息率为基础,但须经董事会批准,并在费率案周期内允许正常波动。

业绩电话会议完整文字记录


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管理层陈述

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to California Water Service Group Q3 2026 earnings call. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to James P. Lynch. You may begin.

James Lynch

Thank you, Colby. Welcome, everyone, to the third quarter 2026 results call for the California Water Service Group. With me today is Martin A. Kropelnicki, our Chairman and CEO. A replay of this call and webcast can be found in our quarterly results earnings release, which was issued earlier today. The call replay will be available until December 28th. A reminder, before we begin, a copy of the slide deck to accompany today's earnings call, the slide deck (with an 's') and is also available on the company's website at www.calwatergroup.com. Before looking at our third quarter 2026 results, I'd like to cover forward-looking statements. During our call, we may make certain forward-looking statements. Because these statements deal with future events, they are subject to various risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from the company's current expectations. As a result, we strongly advise all our shareholders and interested parties to carefully read the company's disclosures on risks and uncertainties found in our 10-K or 10-Qs, press releases, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. And now, I'll turn it over to Marty.

Martin Kropelnicki

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We're very pleased with the continued execution of our 2026 business plan. As we are only three quarters in the year with one to go, there are five major areas that we would like to provide an update on. First, a general update on the financials for the quarter, which include the results of our rate on for general rate case, which rates took effect in the third quarter. Second, we want to talk about our record infrastructure investment that brings it up to just under $425 million to date. We continue to balance system needs with affordability. Third, we want to talk about our progress on closing our announced acquisition of the Oregon and Nevada assets that we are acquiring from Nexus Water Service Company. Yesterday, the Board of Directors declared our 327th consecutive quarterly dividend, which puts our anticipated dividend for the year at $1.34 for the year, which is up 8.1% year-over-year. And finally, I'd like to spend a few moments to talk about emergency preparedness and emergency response. I think, as we know, this super El Niño has gotten a lot of press recently, and we'll talk about how we prepare for the winter that's ahead. So, prior to going through some of the other topic items that Jim outlined, I'm going to turn it over to Jim to talk about the financials for the quarter.

James Lynch

Thanks, Marty. Our third quarter net income was $65.4 million, or $1.05 per diluted share. That compares to $61.2 million, or $1.03 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2025. Revenue increased $21 million, or 6.7%, to $332.2 million, compared to $311.2 million last year. The primary revenue drivers included $22.1 million from new customers and $3.9 million from changes in our Rate Base Offset Memorandum Account (RBOMA). These increases were partially offset by a $4.4 million reduction related to lower customer water usage. Operating expenses increased $8.9 million, or 3.7%, to $249.5 million. Water production costs for the third quarter were largely unchanged, as wholesale water costs were partially offset by lower customer usage. Other operations expenses increased $4.1 million, primarily driven by a $2.8 million increase in water conservation program expenditures. Income taxes on operating income increased $7.1 million, and that reflects higher pretax income and scheduled reduction in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) reform. We also experienced a $3.9 million decline in gains on our non-qualified benefit plan investment assets. Finally, you can see the impact of this activity on our change in Q3 diluted earnings per share. Now at the diluted earnings per share, impacting through the issuance of new shares during the quarter, it's through our ATM program to partially fund our ongoing capital investment, our planned acquisition activities, and to pay down balances on our bank line of credit. I'll discuss this financing in more detail later in the call. Turning to year-to-date net income, from the end of the third quarter, it was $125.9 million, or $2.07 per diluted share, comparing to net income of $116.7 million, or $1.96 per diluted share for the same period in 2025. Revenue was $855.3 million, which is an increase of $75.1 million, or 9.6%, compared to $780.2 million year-to-date in 2025. The primary revenue drivers included rate increases and new customers, which added $51.9 million. Interim rates memorandum account revenue, which is associated with the California OII GRCE, added $15.7 million. Recognition of the remaining deferred water revenue adjustment mechanism (WRAM) revenue added $9.9 million, and RBOMA revenue contributed $3.9 million. Operating expenses increased $48.2 million, or 7.63%, to $683.6 million, compared to $635 million in 2025. The contributors to the change included water production costs that increased 14.1% due to higher wholesale water costs, which were partially offset by a lower customer usage. Other operations expenses increased $19.9 million, and that increase is primarily due to the recognition of $8.1 million in deferred RAMs and higher water conservation program expenses. A $5.5 million in additional income taxes increased $13.1 million, due to higher pretax operating income and the scheduled reduction of the TCJA reform. We also experienced a $3 million decline in gains on our non-qualified benefit plan investment assets year-over-year, and an increase in business acquisition expenses related to the two acquisitions Marty just referred to, of $4.1 million. On slide 8 of the slide deck, you can see the impact of this activity on our change in Q3 year-to-date diluted earnings per share. Looking at our infrastructure investments on slide 9, the reported capital expenditures was $148 million, and year-to-date we have invested $425 million, or a 10-year compounded annual growth rate of gross capital is right around 11%. Yet, it's probably noteworthy to add that in California regulation, we have the ability to on what's called a step increase. In the outbound years of the rate case, so year one of the rate case for new rates next year, 2027, and 2028, we have the ability for what's called that step increase. But it's subject to an earnings test. This earnings test is based on our ability to get the capital that was pre-approved in our rate case in the ground. Given the size and aggressive pace of our capital program, at the end, we're very well positioned to capture a big chunk of the $49 million step increase available. We'll be closing the order now, and around November 15th, we will be filing for that step increase, but anticipate that we're going to do very, very well on that step increase for 2027 rates.

Martin Kropelnicki

Thanks, Jim. And then you can see, in addition to the effective rate increase on slide 10 of the slide deck, the growth in our capital program has been on our rate base. Our projected compounded annual rate base growth is nearly 12%, to approximately $3.5 billion by the end of 2028, assuming we complete our planned capital investments on schedule. Overall, we're really pleased with the progress we're making in our capital program and our future rate-based growth opportunity. Moving to slide 11, at the end of the quarter, we had $45.1 million in cash and cash equivalents and $45.8 million restricted cash. We also had $200 million of available short-term borrowing capacity at Group and $225 million at Cal Water, and those borrowing capacities are subject to credit line borrowing conditions. Regarding our financing activities, during the quarter, we raised $49.8 million from our at-the-market (ATM) equity program. We also entered into forward sales agreements that we can settle up to 12 months from the agreement date and will generate an additional $77.8 million in net proceeds. The quarter also signed agreements for $125 million in unsecured debt at Group and $150 million in mortgage bonds to Cal Water, with maturities that range from 2031 to 2050. With the long-term debt agreements and equity forward agreements in place, our retained earnings and the equity issued in Q3, we believe we have the resources necessary now to pay down our existing short-term debt balances and to finance our ongoing initiatives into the first half of 2027, including the acquisitions of the Oregon and Nevada systems. Lastly, recall that Cal Water's cost of capital decision includes an adjustment mechanism for movement in the Moody's Utility Bond Index. This adjustment mechanism was not triggered during the most recent measurement period, and as a result, our current authorized 10.27% return on equity in Cal Water will remain in effect for 2027. In addition, the authorized return on rate base will remain at 7.46%, and the authorized capital structure at 53.4% equity and 46.6% debt. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Marty.

James Lynch

Thanks, Jim. On slide 12, I want to provide everyone an update on recent regulatory approvals that support our continued investment in safe, reliable, and affordable water service. There are three things that happened that are noteworthy. First, the Washington UTC approved a $4.1 million revenue increase effective October 1st for our service company in Washington. In addition, the Hawaii Public Service Commission approved a $1.9 million revenue increase for our Populous systems in Hawaii. Additionally, during the quarter, the State of California Public Utilities Commission authorized an advice letter process to seek approximately $130 million in capital costs associated with our PFAS program. That was driven by the application with out of the Foster City reach an additional $2.5 million in expenses for certain PFAS projects going on. On slide 13, we continue to advance our PFAS plans program with approximately $228 million in capital investment. That's a gross amount. That's been brought back. Just a minute. The investment will be made in California, New Mexico, and Washington. This includes anticipated and new wipe your water construction as well. In the third quarter, we invested $47.5 million in treatment and well replacement, with a total program investment to date of $47.5 million. We currently have 65 projects planned, including 18 California sites, all under construction. In addition, I think, as many of you know, we've been a very active participant representing the water industry on recovery of a pass-through from the polluters that contributed PFAS to the water systems. To date, we have recovered a net $59.4 million in litigation costs. That amount will be used to offset the $228 million. As of right now, projected $228 million minus the $59.4 million, you get about $159 million net rate base addition for the PFAS projects. Moving on to slide 14, and I think this is a very important slide, as it's always had a keen focus on affordability. We've been able to maintain 100% growth rate on our capital investment, while keeping rates affordable and affordability.

Martin Kropelnicki

Inflation and what's happening in the U.S. today, as well as it's a pretty hot political topic. We like to show this slide because it shows the company has actually done a really good job at balancing affordability with our maintained 10% company growth rate on our capital investment line. What this slide really shows is that the median Cal Water bill represents about 0.88% of the median household income. So the EPA, Environmental Protection Agency, publishes some guidelines on rate affordability. And water rates that are generally below 2% of an average household income is considered affordable. The slide we show from 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, and 2025, how we've been able to keep that rate right around 1% while we continue to grow our asset rate base. And we think that's a very important point and a key part of our strategy as we balance affordability with the needs of the system. A number of ways we do the balance of affordability. Obviously, the litigation with the PFAS project is a good example of that. We actively pursue grants. We do invest heavily in conservation programs. And then we try to do a number of things for our customers, including we have a rate support fund. We have a great online tool. If a customer can't afford to pay the bill, they can spread it out over multiple months and do it through the portal itself. And so all these things kind of work together in terms of helping us balance affordability with the needs of maintaining safe and reliable water service. Moving on to slide 15, many of you have seen this slide before. I think it best represents our commitment to our shareholders as it reflects our 59 years of consecutive dividend increases. Obviously, 2027 will be a new year, and as we move into the new year, Jim and I will start our dialogue with our Board of Directors and looking at what should our dividend be for 2027. Yesterday, our Board of Directors declared our 327th quarterly dividend at $0.34 a share, and that sets up our indicated dividend for 2026 at $1.34 a share, which is an increase of 8.1% over 2025. Moving on to slide 16, I want to give everyone an update on our strategic initiatives. We continue to advance the Oregon and Nevada acquisitions from Nexus Water. The integration planning remains on schedule and within budget. Yesterday, we received approval for our change of control applications from the Oregon Public Utility Commission. And this is on top of the approval we received from the Nevada Commission in August. So this sets us up to close these acquisitions before the end of the year. Integration planning and cooperation among the two companies has gone very, very well. In fact, I don't think we could ask for a better partner to work on an acquisition than what we have with Nexus Water. And we estimate our total integration costs. These will be one-time costs that we incur as we move the assets over and bring them onto our platform, to be between $7 million and $9 million. Part of that will be incurred this year as we're doing all the integration planning and setup work now, and part of it will be incurred next year as we actually bring them onto our platform and bring them live onto our systems. So, it's looking very good as Jim indicated. You know, we got the financing lined up and we will be working hard to close this out before the end of the year. At BVRT, the consolidated rate case has been returned to the Commission for approval with interim rates that still remain in effect. One of the nice things about Texas is you get interim rates where you're waiting for regular approval. In addition, the change in control application has been reviewed and is deemed complete, quote unquote, complete and sent back to the Commission for final approval that we are expected to get sometime soon. It's not on the docket yet. Texas is a little different than the other states. It can take a little longer to get through the approval process. But the application itself was deemed complete and now we're just waiting for a final approval. In addition, BVRT continues to grow at a very healthy rate. This year, year-to-date, we've increased 12% new customers during the third quarter. So we are continuing to see the growth that we're seeing in that Texas corridor, and we expect that will continue well into the new year. Looking at some other highlights during the third quarter, we continue to celebrate and recognize the century of service. On October 14th was our actual 100-year anniversary. October 14th, 2026, our founders acquired the water system in Chico, followed by acquiring the water systems in Visalia and Bakersfield, all on October 15th. All three of these systems are still owned and operated by California Water Service Group and still growing, which I think is fantastic. So we had a number of customer and community outreach events to help celebrate our 100-year anniversary. It's been very well received and it's been a fun year reflecting on our 100 years of service. During the quarter, we also started providing water service to approximately 400 students at Indianola Elementary School, which is outside our service territory in Selma. They were having a lot of water quality problems, so we built the connection from our system to their school. And I think this is a good example of projects we've done. We do in the community where we can help a disadvantaged community that does not have access to clean, reliable water by connecting them to our existing system. So it helps lower the marginal costs for all the participants, but it helps expand the service territory to places where they may not have good quality drinking water. And then lastly, I want to take a moment to talk about emergency preparedness and response in light of it being forecasted a super El Niño year. For many of you that know us, Cal Water does spend a lot of time on emergency preparedness and emergency planning. Over the years, we have developed a set of standing operating procedures that we use in order to work off of as we prepare for and respond to certain disasters. Whether it's a wildfire, whether it's a hurricane, whether it's a flood, whether it's red flag conditions that you'll get down in Southern California with the Santa Ana winds, which you've probably read about the last couple of weeks. There's a whole set of policies and procedures that we follow as we deal with these events. It's really about the preparation behind the event. Then it's about the methodology responding to the event. For example, we have had three hurricanes in Hawaii, one of which was a direct hit on the island of Hawaii in the area of Waipu, which we serve, and I'm very happy to report that yes, it was a direct hit. Yes, we had probably $2 million worth of damage. We had no service outages because the team did a good job preparing and responding to the event. And so obviously going into the new year, we've spent a lot of time with our field operations, which is led by Mike Mares, and he's done a great job making sure everyone's ready, all of our systems are in place, all of our backup generators are working, and we have the extra equipment and tools needed to respond to things that may happen as we go into what is anticipated to be a pretty strong winter for the West Coast. Looking ahead at what to watch for in the fourth quarter, obviously the step increase that I mentioned, you know, there's kind of $49 million, an estimated $49 million in the bucket that's available, depending on how well we did our capital program. I'm feeling very comfortable about that, and we will file for that around November 15th. We anticipate the planning of the transaction with Nexus Water before the end of the year. And as Jim said, financially, things are lined up, the teams are working very well together, and I anticipate that closing before the end of the year. And of course, we have a lot of capital to get in the ground during the fourth quarter. And with the anticipated rains that might come with El Niño, we want to try to accelerate as much capital as we can in the fourth quarter, because in the event of heavy rains, it'll certainly slow down the capital program as we move into. And, of course, all the emergency preparedness and emergency response things that we are doing. So with that, Colby, that ends the formal part of our presentation. And let's go ahead and open up for Q&A, please.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] I will pause just for a moment to compile the Q&A roster.

Martin Kropelnicki

Hey, Colby, while we're waiting for that roster to come in, we just got some news that just came in from the Texas Commission that our rate case decision is on the agenda for approval on November 5th. So that literally just came in across the wire. So we want to share that information as well.

Operator

Okay, thank you. And our first question is going to come from Davis Sunderland from Baird. Your line is open.

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Davis Sunderland

Good morning, guys. That's got to be the most real-time update. I think I've ever heard on a conference call. Congrats on that. That's great news. Maybe two questions for me today and appreciate the time. Obviously, the pushback against utility rate cases and just kind of this general environment we're in of inflation and heightened focus on affordability has been well covered. I guess on the flip side of that, I wanted to focus a bit more on inflation, just impacting expenses for you guys. And specifically, if you could just talk about what you're seeing on the OpEx and CapEx fronts, if there's been any material changes in supply chain or other expense items. I guess I'll leave it there for our first question.

Martin Kropelnicki

Yeah, so on the supply chain side, obviously, you know, we're not immune to inflationary increases. And one of the things I pointed out to our board yesterday when Jim and I were updating them on the financials, you know, we're paying, you know, essentially 20% to 30% more for fuel year over year, and we have, you know, almost 1,000 vehicles that we roll on a daily basis. So we've been able to absorb the inflationary increases into our operating budgets. And so it's there. It's real. That step increase that we have in California is really important. One of the nice things about California is they do approve the capital in advance, which means it's in the tariff rates. And that's why it's subject to an earnings test. And with California being our largest subsidiary, that's why that pot of money is so big, that $49 million. And so, you know, obviously getting that step increase and getting a big piece of that money, that $49 million, will go a long way to offset a lot of the inflation that we're seeing in California. So I would say we haven't seen anything that's a line item buster when you look at the operating budgets and the line items. But certainly, you know, fuel costs are up, material costs are up. I don't think, you know, from an economist perspective, you've seen the full oil shock effect or the diesel shock effect of what's going to happen to inflation here in the rest of the fourth quarter. If you saw the Producer Price Index, you know, it had its largest increase that it's had since 2022, which that increase in 2022 was driven by, really the COVID and the excess government spending on the COVID response. So I don't think we're through the worst of it yet, but I will say from a company perspective, we've been able to manage it and work through the budget lines. And generally speaking, the management team at Cal Water does a very good job at hitting their budget targets. We're just pivoting and turning and saving where we can, realizing we've got to spend more in other areas like fuel.

James Lynch

Yes, I think the other part of your question, Davis, with regards to supplies, we did a really good job during COVID to kind of strengthen our supply chain and to advance purchase certain supplies, inventory that was hard to get. And, you know, we've kept a pretty keen eye on that since. So I think we're pretty well positioned relative to our supply chain. It's really a cost issue that Marty was talking about.

Davis Sunderland

That's great perspective. Thank you, guys, very much. And then maybe I guess I'll direct the second one to you, Jim, but also, of course, Marty, if you have any thoughts, just wondering how you guys are thinking about equity and debt needs for 2027 or starting to do the planning process for next year. Obviously, inflation is one thing, but we've also got a higher interest rate environment and inflation. I guess, links to one another there, but just wondering how you guys are thinking about the outlook for next year or any other financing considerations. And thank you very much.

James Lynch

Yes, I think I think we're pretty well set going into the first half of next year. We did, you know, the debt offering that we did, we've not yet taken possession of the proceeds, if you will, and it's not reflected yet in our results, and so it's not included in Q3, but it was a really successful offering. We were oversubscribed six, seven times, eight times, depending upon where in the structure you're looking at. We got really good spreads on it with the understanding that T-Bills, which the debt is tied to, is higher now than it was this time last year. But we, I think, did a good job in terms of raising the amount that we're going to need into the first half of 2027, maybe into the first three quarters of 2027. And then from an equity perspective, you know, we have 12 months to draw down on the equity that we raised through the forward. And we were already reflecting the equity that was raised during Q3 through our results, and that'll continue. So I think we're looking pretty good into Q3 of next year. And then we'll, as we go into 2027 and start to put together our capital budgets, we'll assess when we think we might need to be back in the market. But I'm pretty confident that going into the first half of the year, we're pretty well situated and we're not going to be looking to raise much going forward.

Davis Sunderland

during that period. Great stuff. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you very much.

Martin Kropelnicki

All right, David. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matt V. Gay with Frieden Broker. Your line is open.

Unknown Speaker

Yes. Hey, Marty. How are you? Good morning. Yes, very good. Thank you. Thank you for the call. Yes. Strong operating results, yeah, congratulations. So, the question is just about the CapEx line. So I see that with the forecast of $627 million and your actual nine-month result, pretty much left for Q4, which is a bit higher. Share of nine months. So do you think your plan is still intact, or we can expect some slip into 2027 from what's expected, and how is it overall going on with the CapEx? So if everything is smooth enough. Thank you so much.

Martin Kropelnicki

Yeah, you know, I think that the easiest way to think about our CapEx, especially in California, which is, you know, 90% of our company is California. The best way to think about it is really looking at the three-year rate cycle. And I say that because capital will get push and pulled year to year, given a number of issues, one of which I talked about, which is El Niño. Sometimes permits take longer, you know, the permitting process and the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) process, which is the environmental review in California, can be very cumbersome. So we planned for, you know, as Jim said, that kind of nice 10% to 11% growth year over year. But we also say, you know, capital can be lumpy based on factors that the company can't control like weather and permitting and so forth. So, you know, we have a pretty long-planned out capital plan. And when something slows down, we try to accelerate something else on it. But generally speaking, we do plan for that 10% to 11% growth year over year in trying to anticipate where some of the capital projects may get hung up. Now there's a very important proposition in California that's on the ballot called Prop 45, which is the Affordable California Act. Cal Water has been a leading company involved in that with the State Chamber of Commerce. If that bill passes, it will essentially expedite the permitting process, which is one of the biggest bottlenecks that we face. And believe it or not, we, you know, Southern California, which is a very water-constrained area, we've had cases where it's taken us up to almost 10 years just to get permits. And so if Prop 45, it essentially starts a shot clock when you file for your application and the government agency, whether it's a city or local county or state, have to issue their permit within a certain timeline. And so watch Prop 45 because that will be a nice benefit for any utility that does construction in the state of California.

Unknown Speaker

Okay, great. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good day.

Operator

And again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and enter the queue. Our next question comes from Angie Stroh-Zsai from Seaport. Your line is open.

Unknown Speaker

Thank you. Okay. So a couple of questions. So one is, you know, that you guys had pretty high unregulated costs. Like, I mean, I'm not sure if you had year-to-date results. Is it just some sort of an aberration and it's going to get, you know, recognized in the amortization on regulated revenues in the fourth quarter.

James Lynch

So, Angie, thanks for the question. The real things driving the unregulated cost are the fact that that's where we're housing our business acquisition expenses. And we also have the lower gains than normal that we have recently experienced anyway from our non-qualified investments for our non-qualified benefit plan. So those are kind of the two key drivers in non-operating income that are kind of bringing that number down a bit in terms of net non-regulated income. So I think that, you know, we're going to have to wait and see if the market rebounds a little bit. Remember, we took a pretty good rate shock in Q3, you know, the bond financing market and what have you. So our fixed income investments didn't perform as well as what they were. And then from an integration standpoint, we'll continue to experience costs related to the Nautica acquisition into Q1. To date, we have recorded almost $4 million there. So, you know, those are temporary, and we do recognize that once we get the integration activities behind us, that the acquisition will be accretive for us going forward.

Unknown Speaker

Okay. Okay. The other question about your dividend growth, and granted that the board hasn't set the growth rate for next year, but I'm just wondering if there is some sort of a targeted payout ratio, at least a cap on it, like a... like, I'm just looking at the estimates. I mean, you would be approaching 60% in the payout and I'm over the next couple of years, and I'm just wondering what's the comfort zone?

Martin Kropelnicki

Yes, good question, Angie. Jim and I have started saying this publicly, and this is something really we started doing, I think, over the last 12 months. We've kind of set the floor for the dividend growth at 7%. And so if you set that as kind of a target that we kind of drive for, and then look at, we try to have between a 50% and 60% kind of payout ratio, you know, recognizing, again over a rate case cycle like in California, it's three years, you know, that'll that'll shift around a little bit depending on where you are on the rate case cycle. But, you know, a 50% to 60% payout ratio with a 7% kind of growth target is what we plan off of.

Unknown Speaker

Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.

Martin Kropelnicki

Hey, Jim, it's probably noteworthy too because Angie asked a very good question about where those integration costs are going. It's kind of going below the, yes, it's in the non-regulated line below the utility line. We were very happy with both approvals we got from Nevada and Oregon with not a whole lot of issues.

James Lynch

Other than the integration costs, you know, we have to bear those by the company. You can't pass those on to customers. So there's no stay out provisions in Oregon and Washington are some of the things that you've seen in other states. They're very clean kind of rules that were approvals that were passed. So we're really happy with how those came out with to build Oregon and Washington. Absolutely.

Operator

And there are no further questions in queue, so at this time I'd like to turn the conference back over to Marty.

Martin Kropelnicki

Great. Thanks, Colby. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today. Jim and I are around today. If you have any further questions, feel free to reach out to us. And thank you for your continued interest in the company. And we'll look forward to finishing the year strong and being back in touch about the earnings test, as well as when we close the Nexus deal here before the end of the year.

Operator

So thank you. Everyone have a great day. This concludes today's earnings call. You may now disconnect.

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