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UDR 2026 年第 3 季法說會:上修 FFOA 財測指引與 20 億美元阿波羅合資案

2026年11月3日 21:34
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UDR公佈2026年第三季每股調整後營運資金為0.65美元,全年財測中位數調升至2.55美元。同店收入年增1.8%,住戶留存率達52%創新高。公司完成與Apollo的20億美元合資案,所得款項用於償還債務、收購及股票回購。沿海市場表現續強,舊金山同店收入增9%,陽光地帶則持續逐季改善。

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核心要點

  • UDR 公布 2026 年第三季每股調整後營運資金 (FFOA) 為 0.65 美元,落於先前財測區間的高端。管理層將全年每股 FFOA 財測中位數調升 0.02 美元至 2.55 美元。
  • 同店收入年增 1.8%,主要受惠於 2.0% 的綜合租金成長率、約 7% 的創新收入成長,以及 96% 中段區間的出租率。
  • 住戶留存率達 52%,創下第三季歷史新高,年增 370 個基點。欠繳率下降 50 個基點至約 60 個基點。
  • 管理層將全年同店淨營運收入 (NOI) 成長財測調升至 0.8%-1.2%,反映出更高的收入預期以及低於原先預期的費用成長。
  • UDR 完成與 Apollo 價值 20 億美元的合資案,出售 19 個社區的三分之二權益並獲得 13.4 億美元,同時保留三分之一的所有權。所得款項中約有三分之一用於償還債務,其餘資金計畫用於收購與股票回購。
  • 沿海市場表現持續優於其他地區。舊金山實現約 13% 的綜合租金成長率與 9% 的同店收入成長,而陽光地帶的綜合租金則下滑約 1.5%。

關鍵財務數據

指標2026 年第三季 / 最新展望變動或背景
每股 FFOA$0.65落於先前財測的高端;季增 $0.01
同店收入成長1.8%由租金、創新收入與出租率推動
綜合租金成長率2.0%與 2026 年第二季相近
同店費用成長2.2%受惠於退租率較低與良好的成本控制
出租率96% 中段區間管理層預計第四季為 96.5%-96.7%
住戶留存率52%年增 370 個基點;創第三季新高
欠繳率約 60 個基點年減 50 個基點
創新收入成長約 7%年增長
新住戶租金收入比21%相比於歷史平均值的 23%
全年 FFOA 財測中位數為每股 $2.55調升 $0.02
第四季 FFOA 財測每股 $0.63-$0.65中位數為 $0.64

業務與營運表現

UDR 的沿海物業組合帶動了整體營運表現。舊金山實現約 13% 的綜合租金成長率、超過 97% 的出租率以及 9% 的同店收入成長。橘郡的綜合租金成長率與同店收入成長率均達 3%。

在 4.5% 的綜合租金成長率與超過 97% 的出租率支持下,紐約與費城錄得約 5% 的加權平均同店收入成長。管理層表示,紐約在季節性需求較低的時期仍持續創造約 4%-5% 的租金成長。

陽光地帶的表現仍相對較弱,但呈現逐季改善。綜合租金下降約 1.5%,較第二季的 2% 降幅有所收窄。達拉斯依然是 UDR 在陽光地帶最強勁的市場。奧斯汀從第二季的約負 5% 改善至約負 1%-2%,而佛羅里達州則接近負 1%。陽光地帶的出租率約為 97%。

較低的退租率為租金、出租率與成本控制提供了支撐。管理層將創紀錄的留存率部分歸因於客戶體驗倡議,以及結合 AI 與數據強化的住戶篩選與留存流程。

資本配置與 Apollo 合資案

UDR 向這項價值 20 億美元的 Apollo 合資案挹注了 19 個社區(包含超過 7,000 套公寓)。該物業組合以 6% 的資本化率進行估值,平均屋齡為 39 年,而 UDR 全資擁有的物業組合平均屋齡為 26 年。該組合每戶月收入為 2,058 美元,相比之下全資擁有物業組合則為 2,772 美元。

Apollo 出資 13.4 億美元取得三分之二權益,UDR 則保留三分之一權益並將繼續營運這些物業。資產管理費約為 Apollo 出資權益的 1.3%。標普與穆迪將此交易認定為永久性權益。

UDR 表示,所得款項約有三分之一將用於減少債務。其餘三分之二將用於資助全資物業的收購與股票回購。資金部署完畢後,管理層預期債務對 EBITDA 比率將降至 5 倍出頭的區間,低於第三季末的 5 倍中段區間。

自第三季結束以來,UDR 以 35.48 美元的平均價格回購了約 520 萬股,總額為 1.85 億美元。自 2025 年 9 月以來,累計回購股數達 1,670 萬股,總額約 6.03 億美元,平均價格為 36.06 美元。

UDR 還完成了兩個社區的出售,並同意出售第三個社區,產生約 2.5 億美元的總收益。預計全年全資物業處置總額約為 7 億美元,買方的資本化率落在 5% 中段。

管理層財測

財測指標更新後區間中位數變動
全年同店收入成長1.4%-1.8%調升 22.5 個基點
全年同店費用成長2.7%-3.1%調降 35 個基點至 2.9%
全年同店 NOI 成長0.8%-1.2%調升 37.5 個基點
第四季綜合租金成長率1.5%-2.0%與 2026 年期間達成的區間一致
2027 年同店收入結轉效應80-100 個基點管理層估算;最終財測將於 2 月公布

管理層表示,第四季展望受惠於租約到期數量較少、續約報價提高以及約 2% 的租賃折讓差距。市場租金在過去 60 天內上漲約 50 個基點,相比之下去年同期則下降約 300 個基點。

針對 2027 年,管理層認為租金成長加速並不一定需要顯著強勁的就業成長。該觀點建立在更為有利的供應展望、居高不下的購屋成本以及住戶持續留存的基礎上。正式的 2027 年財測預計將在進一步部署 Apollo 交易所得款項後,於 2 月公布。

風險與關注焦點

  • 儘管逐季改善,陽光地帶的租金成長率仍為負值,管理層表示該地區在出現明確拐點之前仍有一段路要走。
  • 由於買賣雙方仍在適應較高的利率,過去 60 天的交易量有所下滑。UDR 觀察到買賣價差擴大,當賣方接受修訂後的出價時,交易價格降低了約 3%-5%。
  • Apollo 交易帶來的盈餘增益取決於 UDR 如何以及何時部署所得款項。管理層計畫在公布 2027 年財測時提供更多細節。
  • Apollo 的目標回報率並未獲得保證。初始 7.0% 的內部報酬率上限在第七年調升至 7.3%,第九年調升至 7.6%,但 Apollo 並無賣回權或最低分紅保障,且無法強制 UDR 提供特定的回報率。
  • 資本支出可能會維持波動。UDR 估計保留物業組合的資本支出約占收入的 11%,同時指出重新開發活動可能導致季度與年度支出不均勻。

分析師問答亮點

2027 年租金成長驅動因子:管理層表示,公寓供應狀況改善、居高不下的購屋成本以及較高的留存率,即便就業沒有顯著加速成長,也能為租金成長提供支撐。預計續約的重要性仍將高於新簽租約。

收購與股票回購之比較:UDR 將使用其資本配置熱力圖來比較減債、收購與股票回購。管理層表示,目前的收購決策主要由個別資產特性、預期租金成長、營運上行空間與資金需求驅動,而非廣泛的市場配置。

Apollo 交易結構與選擇權:自第五年起,在回報率上限結構的前提下,UDR 可選擇回購 Apollo 的權益。UDR 亦可根據替代現金流與物業組合標準替換資產。十年後,任何一方均可根據優先出價權條款尋求出售其權益,或者合夥雙方可同意清算該合資企業。

區域展望:管理層指出,舊金山與紐約是 2027 年結轉效益的主要貢獻者。西雅圖保持穩定,綜合租金成長率約為 1%-2%,出租率落在 96% 中段區間。奧斯汀與佛羅里達州有所改善,但綜合租金成長率仍為負值。

DPE 物業組合到期遞減:UDR 預計其債務與特別股物業組合在 2026 年底約為 2.5 億美元,並在 2027 年上半年降至 2 億美元出頭的區間。該公司正擇優收購部分前 DPE 物業,管理層認為這些物業適合長期持有。

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管理層陳述

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to UDR Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Vice President of Investor Relations, Trent Trujillo. Thank you, Mr. Trujillo, you may begin.

Trent Trujillo

Thank you, and welcome to UDR's quarterly financial results conference call. Our press release and supplemental disclosure package were distributed yesterday afternoon and posted to the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.udr.com. In the supplement, we have reconciled all non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in accordance with Reg G requirements. Statements made during this call, which are not historical may constitute forward-looking statements. Although we believe the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, we can give no assurance that our expectations will be met. A discussion of risks and risk factors are detailed in our press release and included in our filings with the SEC. We do not undertake a duty to update any forward-looking statements.

When we get to the question-and-answer portion, to be respectful of everyone's time and in an attempt to complete our call within 1 hour, we will limit questions to 1 per analyst. We kindly ask that you rejoin the queue if you have a follow-up question or additional items to discuss. Management will be available after the call to address any questions that did not get answered during the Q&A session today.

I will now turn the call over to UDR's Chairman, President and CEO, Tom Toomey.

Tom Toomey

Thank you, Trent, and welcome to UDR's Third Quarter 2026 Conference Call. Presenting on the call with me today are Chief Operating Officer, Mike Lacy; Chief Financial Officer, David Bragg; and Senior Officer, Chris Van Ens, who will be available during the Q&A portion of the call.

To begin, I'm pleased to announce that our previously announced $2 billion joint venture with Apollo has closed. To use a baseball term, with this strategic partnership, UDR is hit for the cycle, a rare feat. With one transaction, we increased UDR's access to equity capital, reduced leverage, improved the asset quality of the wholly owned portfolio and drove earnings accretion. My sincere thanks go to the many UDR associates who made this a reality. Dave will provide more details in his prepared remarks.

Moving on to operations. UDR produced third quarter results that achieved the high end of our guidance expectations and led us to raise our full year same-store growth and FFOA per share guidance for the second time this year. This fall, the apartment sector has enjoyed a traditional leasing curve, a distinct improvement versus recent years. Mike will elaborate on how our data-driven capabilities, continuous innovation and disciplined execution allow UDR to capitalize on the apartment operating landscape.

Next, I'd like to welcome Scott McCallum to UDR as Chief Investment Officer. Scott joins us later this week and brings a wealth of investment experience and strategic insight and will work with us to further enhance UDR's access to capital and capital allocation acumen.

Additionally, last night, we published our eighth annual corporate responsibility report, detailing the efforts that led to UDR's recognition as a top workplace winner in the real estate industry for third consecutive year. I'm proud of all we have accomplished, and I look forward to sharing more successes in the years to come.

In conclusion, we are pleased with our year-to-date results across all 3 value creators, those being operational excellence, data-driven capital allocation and access to capital. As we look forward, we plan for more of the same, supported by our stronger balance sheet and team.

And with that, let me turn it over to Mike.

Michael Lacy

Thanks, Tom. Today, I'll cover our third quarter same-store results. Our increased full year 2026 same-store growth guidance, including underlying assumptions and recent operating trends as well as our strategic positioning. My prepared comments will focus on our same-store pool after the removal of the communities contributed to the Apollo joint venture. With that, third quarter results reflected better late quarter leasing trends as compared to recent years. Specific to the quarter, year-over-year same-store revenue growth of 1.8% was driven by 2% blended lease rate growth, which was similar to the second quarter, robust year-over-year innovation income growth of approximately 7%, healthy occupancy in the mid-96% range and delinquency of around 60 basis points, which is down 50 basis points year-over-year, reflective of our AI and data-enhanced approach to attract and retain creditworthy residents.

Additionally, resident retention of 52% represented an all-time third quarter high and was 370 basis points above the prior year period. Fewer move-outs supported blended lease growth and occupancy and kept same-store expense growth in check at only 2.2%. Beyond these revenue drivers, our third quarter rent-to-income ratio of 21% for new residents compares to the historical average of 23% and is reflective of the appeal of our communities to high-quality residents.

With these results, we have raised our full year 2026 same-store growth guidance for the second time this year. Same-store revenue growth was raised by 22.5 basis points at the midpoint to a new range of positive 1.4% to 1.8%. Improved revenue growth guidance reflects both year-to-date outperformance as well as higher quality portfolio after removing the apartment communities contributed to the Apollo partnership from our same-store pool. Recall that a year ago, we actively shifted approximately 25% of our fourth quarter lease expirations into higher demand leasing months. This strategic shift is paying off as compared to 2024 and 2025, we have experienced a stronger seasonal trend from the third quarter to the fourth quarter thus far this year with renewal rate growth expected to be higher in the fourth quarter than the third quarter. Accordingly, we expect fourth quarter blended lease rate growth to be in the range of 1.5% to 2%, which is consistent with the range we have achieved each quarter this year.

Moving on to same-store expense growth. We reduced our full year guidance midpoint by 35 basis points to 2.9% with a range of 2.7% to 3.1%. This was driven by constrained growth across repairs and maintenance, administrative and marketing, real estate taxes and insurance. Combining our improved revenue and expense growth guidance, we increased our same-store NOI growth guidance by 37.5 basis points at the midpoint to a range of positive 0.8% to 1.2%.

Looking ahead, the building blocks for 2027 same-store growth are coming into focus. Based on our team's strong execution that drove our revised outlook and our expectations for fourth quarter blended lease rate growth, we expect a 2027 same-store revenue earn-in of 80 to 100 basis points, which compares favorably to our 2026 earn-in of 0 basis points. Actual earn-in will depend on our results through the rest of the year, and we will provide 2027 guidance in February.

Turning to regional performance. Third quarter results were again led by our coastal markets, which delivered blended lease rate growth of approximately 3% on average as compared to negative 1.5% in the Sunbelt. More specifically, on the West Coast, San Francisco remains a standout market with the strongest revenue growth across our portfolio at 9%, driven by blended lease rate growth of approximately 13% and occupancy above 97%. Orange County, where we have a unique overweight exposure, also delivered attractive results with blended lease rate growth and same-store revenue growth of 3%.

New York and Philadelphia continue to lead the East Coast with weighted average same-store revenue growth of approximately 5%, driven by blended lease rate growth of 4.5% and occupancy above 97%. Dallas remained our strongest Sunbelt market, exhibiting positive revenue growth during the quarter. Despite continued new lease rate growth weakness, Austin showed strong positive momentum and was our only Sunbelt market to deliver positive year-over-year NOI growth for the quarter.

To conclude, we delivered third quarter results that exceeded our expectations and drove our full year guidance raise. Our ability to leverage real-time data to tactically adjust operation strategies continues to drive resident satisfaction and cash flow growth. Our teams across the country have delivered strong results, and I'm confident we will continue to innovate, expand operating margin and create memorable UDR resident experiences.

I'll now turn over the call to Dave.

David Bragg

Thank you, Mike. The topics I will cover today include our third quarter financial results and fourth quarter guidance, recent transactions and capital markets activity and a balance sheet and liquidity update. To begin, we produced third quarter FFO as adjusted per share of $0.65, which is at the high end of our previously provided guidance range. The $0.01 per share sequential increase was driven primarily by accretion from investment activity, including prior share repurchases and lower G&A. As year-to-date results have exceeded our prior midpoint expectations, we have raised full year 2026 FFOA guidance by $0.02 per share at the midpoint to $2.55. Looking ahead to the fourth quarter, our FFOA per share guidance range is $0.63 to $0.65. The $0.64 midpoint contemplates the operating environment that Mike discussed. The Apollo transaction, while accretive to 2027 FFOA is neutral to the fourth quarter due to the timing with which we will deploy the proceeds.

Next, capital allocation. This year has seen us take action on several fronts with the goals of derisking the enterprise, improving asset quality and enhancing the earnings outlook. My thanks to the finance, investment, legal and operations teams as we have executed on nearly $4 billion of year-to-date activity across acquisitions, dispositions, joint ventures and share repurchases.

Most recently, we announced our $2 billion strategic partnership with Apollo. UDR contributed 19 apartment communities totaling more than 7,000 apartment homes to this new joint venture. The average age of the communities is 39 years, which compares to 26 for our wholly owned portfolio and monthly revenue per home of $2,058 compares to $2,772 for the wholly owned portfolio. The Apollo portfolio is approximately 60% Sunbelt and 40% coastal with top markets, including Florida at 44%, California at 13% and Massachusetts at 13%. The portfolio was valued at a 6% cap rate.

In exchange for a 2/3 share in this portfolio, UDR received $1.34 billion of equity capital and retained a 1/3 interest in the venture. This transaction received permanent equity treatment from S&P and Moody's. We will continue to operate and manage the portfolio for an asset management fee. There are 2 important features of the joint venture that provide UDR optionality over time. First, we can substitute assets in and out of the venture in an effort to maximize the performance of our wholly owned portfolio. The rent growth outlook from our proprietary predictive analytics tool, Orion, will play a role in those decisions. And second, we have an option but not an obligation to repurchase Apollo's 2/3 interest in the venture at a 7.0% capped IRR to Apollo starting in year 5.

Next, as it relates to the redeployment of proceeds, approximately 1/3 of the $1.3 billion has been directed towards debt reduction. With the Apollo partnership in sight, we chose not to refinance a $300 million unsecured note maturity in September that would price around 6% today. The remaining 2/3 of the Apollo proceeds will fund wholly owned acquisitions and share buybacks. Post deployment of Apollo proceeds, debt-to-EBITDA will settle in the low 5x range, down from mid-5s at the end of the third quarter. We are equipped with a fortified balance sheet at a moment of capital markets volatility. The earnings accretion from this transaction is subject to our deployment execution, and we will provide details next quarter post deployment in conjunction with 2027 guidance.

Outside of our Apollo-related activities, we completed various additional transactions and capital markets activities during the third quarter and into the fourth. First, we completed the sale of 2 apartment communities and are under contract to sell a third for a total gross proceeds of approximately $250 million. This will result in 2026 wholly owned disposition activity of approximately $700 million at a mid-5% buyer cap rate. We selected these assets for sale based on the same criteria that we focus on when investing. With great attention to property level characteristics, these 8 dispositions comprise a wide range of markets but share commonalities of elevated CapEx profiles, margins that were optimized on our operational platform and relatively lower forecasted rent growth per Orion.

These apartment communities on average are 35 years old and have average monthly rents nearly $900 below that of our wholly owned portfolio, and they're expected to produce annual rent growth 100 basis points below the national average per Orion. Our operations team views them as maxed out in terms of margin potential. So their removal and the subsequent investment into our shares or acquisitions enhances the long-term cash flow growth prospects of the enterprise.

Next, we continue to execute on the previously announced strategic decision to run off our debt and preferred equity book or DPE. We utilized a portion of the disposition proceeds in a 1031 transaction to acquire a recently constructed lease-up property in the Inland Empire, California that was formerly part of the DPE portfolio. As an indication of the operational opportunity we see, under UDR's watch, the lease-up has accelerated to a rate of 30 homes per month. Additionally, we entered into an agreement with the same DPE partner to acquire a second lease-up apartment property also in the Inland Empire, and we anticipate that this one will close in the first half of 2027.

With these 2 transactions, in addition to our previously reported acquisition of a former DPE investment in Portland, Oregon at the beginning of the third quarter and a successful DPE repayment on an investment in Orlando, Florida, we are on track for our previously suggested DPE balance of approximately $250 million at the end of this year. The book will then decline to the low $200 million range in the first half of 2027. At that time, the DPE portfolio will consist only of stabilized assets and property level cash flow will allow for more than 2/3 of our contractual return to be paid current in cash.

Next, share buybacks. Apartment REIT stocks continue to trade at an unusually wide discount to private market apartment pricing. Since quarter end, we have acted upon this by repurchasing approximately 5.2 million shares for $185 million and at an average price of $35.48 per share. This brings total repurchase activity since September of last year to 16.7 million shares for approximately $603 million at an average price of $36.06 per share, equating to a mid-6% implied cap rate. Following this activity, we have approximately 20.3 million shares remaining on our repurchase program, which we expanded earlier this year.

Lastly, we grew our joint venture with LaSalle to approximately $958 million by contributing a 360-home apartment community in Nashville, Tennessee to the venture while simultaneously placing debt on both the newly contributed community and an existing community in the venture. As a result, this transaction brought approximately $103 million in proceeds to UDR.

Considering our year-to-date activity, we have updated our full year capital sources and uses guidance, the details of which are provided in our supplemental financial information. It is important to note that we do not guide to share repurchases, which we evaluate and execute on an opportunistic basis.

In all, our capital allocation and balance sheet management strategies remain rooted in our data-driven and collaborative process that drives long-term cash flow per share accretion. This includes our Orion analytics platform, our perspective on operating upside potential and CapEx and the ability to leverage our dynamic capital allocation heat maps to inform sources and uses of capital. And by expanding our access to capital, our investment-grade balance sheet remains highly liquid and fully capable of funding our capital needs.

With that, I will open up the call for Q&A. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Eric Wolfe with Citibank.

分析師問答

Eric Wolfe

Could you just talk through the fourth quarter trends that you're seeing thus far in terms of rent growth and occupancy? And as you look out to next year, do you think we need to see material better job growth for rent growth to accelerate from here? Or is the sort of lower supply, the very high retention that you're seeing enough to see that acceleration into next year?

Michael Lacy

Eric, it's Mike. Yes, I'd say, first, I want to start with, we're really pleased with our third quarter results and the strength has maintained into the fourth quarter. And so without getting into monthly ins and outs, I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we do expect 1.5% to 2% blend in the fourth quarter. And I feel good about it, and I'll tell you why there's a few stats that I'd like to point out. I think first, it starts with our strategy to lower our exposure during the weaker demand months, and we're now right around 15% of our leases expiring in the fourth quarter. So a strong backdrop as it relates to lease expirations.

Second to that, what I've noticed over the last 60 days is our market rent has actually increased by about 50 basis points and that compares to be down about 300 basis points the prior year. So again, much different backdrop as it relates to market rents today. And then the third thing that this is kind of translated into is we've got a loss to lease today, right around 2%, and that compares to a gain to lease last year of positive 2%. That's boding well for not negotiating on renewals. As I've mentioned previously, we did send out renewals higher into the fourth quarter. So we do expect that, that's going to allow us to drive our rents as well. And ultimately, this is leading to that earn-in of about 80 to 100 basis points this year. That compares to 0 last year and pretty significantly better than what we've experienced the last few years. So a much different backdrop, a lot of good positive signs.

And maybe the last thing I'd point out is, as we typically see going from the third quarter to the fourth quarter, blends usually drop approximately 200 basis points. Last year, they actually dropped nearly 300. If we hold in that 1.5% to 2% range as we expect, we're going to be in pretty good shape as we go into next year. And that's all while holding occupancy probably in that 96.5% to 96.7% range. So healthy occupancy as well.

David Bragg

And this is Dave, following up with a macro perspective on your 2027 question. And we'll follow up in February and provide guidance. What I'd leave you with for now is, no, we don't need material job growth improvement from here for rent growth to accelerate in 2027 based on how we see the landscape. As we look into 2027, we see an incrementally favorable supply outlook. We see sustained high homeownership costs, and we see residents continuing to stay in place, both for cyclical and structural reasons. So that will allow the rent growth outlook to skew disproportionately towards renewals away from new move-ins as has already been the case.

Operator

Our next question is from Jana Galan with Bank of America.

Jana Galan

Congrats on the quarter. With about $900 million earmarked for acquisitions or share buybacks, could you talk about the opportunities in the transaction market and any variance in cap rates across your geographies?

David Bragg

Sure. Thank you for that question. And we are really intrigued by the opportunity to have capital to deploy here. The Apollo transaction closed last week. That leaves us with ample capital to work with. You alluded to a $900 million number for acquisitions and buybacks. I think that you're accurately capturing the first thing that we're doing, which is paying down debt. So think about that as about 1/3 of the uses of capital. And from there, we'll follow the heat maps and see what the opportunities bring us. You saw in our press release that even since we announced the Apollo transaction, we've bought back $185 million of shares. That has been consistent with the playbook we've been operating with since last September in terms of selling assets and buying back stock. That said, we're intrigued by the transaction market as well and might pick our spots.

What we're seeing over the last 60 days is that volume has declined. There's a wider bid-ask spread as buyers and sellers adjust to what is perceived as a new regime in terms of higher interest rates. As a result, where we have observed trades, cap rates are up and pricing is down. Every trade that's on the market, more or less right now is receiving an ask of a retrade. Some sellers do capitulate. And when they do, we're seeing pricing off in the 3% to 5% range, and that varies a bit by market and asset quality. And in other cases, sellers are pulling back and hoping for a better day.

Operator

Our next question is from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI.

Steve Sakwa

I know you've got sort of Scott joining soon as CIO. But given the, I guess, the large discount to NAV, how should we just sort of think about kind of the capital allocation moving forward? Should it be kind of more of the same kind of these large joint ventures? Or do you think it's more kind of one-off asset sales into next year with additional share buybacks?

David Bragg

Steve, it's Dave. We're really excited for Scott to join. He'll be with us starting this week. He brings with him a wealth of experience as it relates to multifamily transactions. And so the marriage of that experience with our data-driven capabilities around investing are exciting for the team here. So no change as it relates to the focus on capital deployment. We'll continue to find -- follow the heat map. And to the extent that we just get better in terms of asset selection and finding opportunities out there on the market, that will be terrific.

Operator

Our next question is from Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo.

James Feldman

I appreciate some of the color you gave before on specific markets, including Austin's pickup. As you think about the Sunbelt markets, can you talk us through which you think have bottomed and which you think have a ways to go?

Michael Lacy

Yes, Jamie, I'll jump on that, give you a little bit of color kind of how we're seeing it today. I think first, it's important just to kind of size Sunbelt for us, and then I can take a step back and give you a little bit more detail. But we're right around 20% of our NOI coming out of the Sunbelt. And what we saw during the quarter was negative 1.5% blends compared to negative 2% in the second quarter. So starting to see a little momentum. I've been talking about that for the past couple of months now. Still have a ways to go. And I think for us, specifically around Dallas, we've said that, that's been an outperformer all year long. That's nearly 10% of our NOI. So a lot of our Sunbelt exposure comes from Dallas. And we've experienced right around negative 1% blends for the last 2 quarters now, and we continue to see some positive momentum coming out of that part of the country.

I'd say specific to Austin, I think it's good to remind everybody, it's only 2% of our NOI. We're really in that Cedar Park area. Still dealing with a little bit of supply, but we have seen the most momentum coming from Austin in terms of blends on a quarter-over-quarter basis, going from negative 5% back in the second quarter, and we're close to around negative 1%, negative 2% today. And so you can see that rate of change is starting to pick up. We think that there's opportunity as we go into next year, just given what we're seeing with supply coming down in Texas.

And then Florida for us, it's less than 10% of our NOI at this point, mainly in Tampa compared to Orlando, given some of the properties we just put into the Apollo joint venture are coming from Orlando part of the country. And I'm seeing right around negative 1% blends in Florida today. That's far better than what we saw at the beginning of the year. And I'd say specific to occupancy in the Sunbelt, right around 97% today. So we feel like we have a good positioning just in terms of occupancy, lower lease expirations in the fourth quarter. We're going to try to lean in and see if we can't push rents a little bit as we go into next year. So we'll see when that inflection happens, but we do feel better today about the Sunbelt than we have in a while.

Operator

Our next question is from Adam Kramer with Morgan Stanley.

Derrick Metzler

This is Derrick Metzler on for Adam. I believe you said in your opening remarks that you would give an update on the Apollo transaction accretion next quarter after the remaining proceeds are deployed. So I just want to confirm the timing that you expect to deploy the remaining proceeds in 4Q. And if I can add a part 2, can you share the contractual asset management fee percentage on Apollo's invested capital? And how should we account for the incremental fee economics in FFOA?

David Bragg

Okay. Great questions. I'll go a little bit out of order here. The asset management fee, you can think about that as about 1.3% on Apollo's equity contributed of $1.34 billion. As it relates to use of proceeds, we can tell you what we've done so far and provide some broad strokes in terms of what to expect going forward.

First of all, we paid down the line to $0. Typically, it's around $400 million. We're sitting on cash of about $400. We did not do a debt deal in September when we had a maturity of about $300 million. And then we've done buybacks of about $185 million. So that adds you up to approximately $1.3 billion in terms of the cash that came in the door last week.

As it relates to some math around the accretion that you could keep in mind, you have a $2 billion portfolio contributed at a 6% cap rate. So that's about $120 million of NOI. 2/3 of that goes to Apollo, that's $80 million. You have the management fee that I just mentioned. The reinvestment plan will be determined as we execute over the coming months. If you want to simplistically think about it in terms of 1/3, 1/3, 1/3, you could. You could think about debt repay down -- debt paydown of about 6% on the $300 million unsecured deal that we did not do, 4% payoff of a bit of the line. Then you have the acquisition market where pricing is moving in our direction, and we'll see what that brings. And then you have the share buyback.

So ultimately, this will be a consolidated joint venture. You will deduct Apollo's noncontrolling interest on an HLBV basis to arrive at our results, and that management fee will be eliminated in consolidation and show up as a lower noncontrolling interest deduction. And then lastly, we'd add back the proportionate share of depreciation to FFO. So hopefully, that's helpful in terms of management fee, use of proceeds, potential FFO impact, and we'll circle up with you in February after we've made progress on deployment.

Operator

Our next question is from Ami Probandt with UBS.

Ami Probandt

You maintained your blended spread guide despite removing the Apollo assets and that having a positive impact on blends in the second quarter -- or in the third quarter, sorry. Does that suggest that you're now expecting a softer 4Q than you were previously expecting? Or does that give you some cushion given some uncertainty in the macro?

Michael Lacy

No, I think originally, we had the 1.5% to 2% blends for the back half of the year. We did come in at 2% during the third quarter. We're still sticking to that 1.5% to 2% in the fourth quarter. We'll see how it transpires over the next, call it, 45 to 60 days. But like I mentioned in one of the previous questions, we feel really good about the backdrop just in terms of loss to lease, market rents and what we're sending out renewals. Just want to see how it kind of shakes out over the next month or 2.

Operator

Brad, your line is live.

Brad Heffern

Mike, you talked about all those really positive and counter seasonal trends that you've been seeing over the past few months. I guess what do you think is driving that? And is it broad-based? Or is it just driven by a few strong markets?

Michael Lacy

I think it's a few things. I think, obviously, you go around the horn and just go market by market and there's different dynamics. But overall, the supply coming down is definitely helping out. And so that's more of a macro piece of it that's helping us. But I think specific to what we're doing here at UDR, it comes down to a couple of things. I think first and foremost, it's pushing our rents in a period of time where we do have less exposure. I think that's a difference maker for us versus others. And so it allows us to get a little bit more aggressive. And I think you've been able to see that with some of the third-party data just in terms of market rents. We've kind of changed that trajectory over the last 4 to 6 weeks, and that allows us to limit how much we're negotiating on renewals. So send out higher renewals ideally don't have to negotiate on much of it. That's stickier. That's allowing us to drive our blends into a weaker period of demand, if you will.

And then aside from that, it's just the things that we're doing with the customer experience. I mean you can see again in this quarter, we were down another 300 to 350 basis points in turnover on a year-over-year basis. So we're doing something different than everybody else. It's allowing us to just need less leases, if you will, drive our rents all while maintaining a pretty high occupancy in that 96.5% to 96.7% range. So some of it's market, some of it's region. I think a lot of it has to do with what UDR is doing specifically.

Operator

Our next question is from Julien Blouin with Goldman Sachs.

Julien Blouin

Just on the Apollo JV, I was wondering if you don't exercise your option to repurchase the properties in year 5, does Apollo retain the option to force a sale and realize their 7% IRR?

David Bragg

Julien, thanks for the question. That's a topic that I'm going to get to. I want to just really go back to Tom's opening comments. They captured the benefits of the Apollo partnership so well and your question pertains to just one piece of it. First, we're able to access equity capital. It's attractive valuation for the assets that we contributed. We received equity treatment from Moody's and S&P. We've already strengthened the balance sheet at an opportune moment in the debt capital markets, and we're out there looking to play offense at a moment when asset pricing is attractive, both in the private market and as it relates to our shares. All of this can very importantly be done in a tax-efficient manner, which is particularly appealing about this transaction. And then we can add value during the life of the JV a couple of ways.

One is through the substitution opportunity. We can look at an asset in the JV and have a perspective perhaps from Orion about potential outperformance, and we can pull that back on to the wholly owned book. And then at the end -- not at the end, but during the year 5 to 10 window, there's a call option. And we are pleased to announce last night that the IRR has been set at 7.0%. And then that includes step-ups of 30 basis points at year 7 and another 30 basis points at year 9. So that gets you to a capped IRR for Apollo at a maximum of 7.6%. Buyers today of multifamily tend to underwrite 8% to 9% unlevered IRRs. We will enjoy all of the upside in terms of the value creation above Apollo's capped IRR. And then all of this, including asset management fee, allows it to be accretive to earnings.

So I talked about the call window that we have. And then beyond the call window, you get to year 10. After the call option expires, either party can choose to sell their interest with ROFO rights for the other party or the partners can agree to liquidate the JV. Either way, the return that both parties received is based on the market value of the assets at that time on a pro rata basis.

Operator

Our next question is from Rich Hightower with Barclays.

Richard Hightower

Just a follow-up on the last question. So in the hypothetical scenario where performance of the assets in sort of the, I guess, the moving -- always moving bucket of potential assets to go in it, if performance ever falters, what obligation does UDR have to make Apollo whole in terms of its IRR? And what would that -- what's the range of possible downside from a capital perspective or something else maybe we should be thinking of there?

David Bragg

Yes. This is Dave. I'll start and other team members might want to contribute. But Apollo has no put rights. So they have no right to convert into UDR equity. The 7.0% return, it's a target. It's not a guarantee. It's not a floor. They do have risk. That's part of the reason that this received equity treatment. And Apollo cannot compel UDR to provide a specific return. So if UDR does elect to exercise its call option and the conditions are favorable, Apollo may achieve the targeted return, but it's not assured. Then I would just add that there's no forced redemption scenarios that are outside of UDR's control.

Operator

Our next question is from Wes Golladay with Baird.

Wesley Golladay

Looking at your acquisition platform, are there any markets really standing out on the platform? Or are the deals more likely to screen, hey, this is a good deal at the asset level or submarket level?

David Bragg

This is Dave. So it's really a bottom-up process, and it might be different than others view investing across apartments. But for each investment opportunity, first of all, we look at the heat map and see what the risk-adjusted return is on the use of capital. But then we look at 3 top criteria that are very much so asset level based, not market level based. You have the predictive analytics outlook for rent growth. What's this asset going to do in terms of rent growth relative to the national average over the course of the next 6 years? Second, what's the operating upside potential? And we just have story after story of an asset that we bought or brought on to the platform where Mike and team have been able to drive margins significantly higher. And then lastly, we're mindful of CapEx and directionally look for assets that require less CapEx than those that we have sold.

So as we think about investing, we approach it with that criteria in mind more so than a market level decision. The same thing applies to dispositions. We've sold 7 assets so far this year with [ one ] under contract. I'm pleased to report that the timing was very fortuitous. All 7 of those sales occurred before interest rates moved up. And those follow the same playbook. What we've sold tends to have a lower outlook for rent growth per Orion, the predictive analytics tool requires more CapEx and the operating team feels as though we've squeezed the juice out of them from a margin perspective.

Tom Toomey

Wes, this is Toomey. I'd just add, we're all entering this window with AI enabling our enterprises. And this is where I would congratulate the team. I mean we started on Orion, we had called it a lot of different things years ago, about 6 years ago and compiling data with respect to and back testing it over 25 years to really find the formula to identify assets. And that's the power of AI and our past data and our experiences to create predictive models towards the future. It's not 100% certain, but it sure narrows the risk bandwidth and creates that opportunity. I think businesses in the future that are able to demonstrate large data sets that are accurate, processing them to achieve higher cash flows are going to be winning formulas. And we're not market-oriented. We're asset-oriented in our decision-making. And I think that will lead to long-term outperformance.

Operator

Our next question is from Peter Abramowitz with Deutsche Bank.

Peter Abramowitz

You covered a lot today, but I just wanted to ask about Seattle. I'm curious how things feel on the ground there. I know there's kind of been a lot of conversation about AI job formation down in the Bay Area and kind of when it makes its way up the coast. Just curious if you could comment your latest thoughts on Seattle and just how demand feels on the ground.

Michael Lacy

Yes. I appreciate the question. I'll tell you how I'm looking at Seattle right now. It's really broken down a couple of ways. You look at the East side, we definitely do have some AI jobs that are helping with demand over there. And then I'd say more specific to the Pacific Northwest, aerospace hiring has anchored demand. So that's helped us to some degree as well. And then in addition to the demand side, relatively low supply across Seattle has helped out quite a bit for us. All that being said, blends are not what we're seeing down in San Francisco, right? We're seeing close to, call it, 12% to 13% blends in San Francisco. I'd tell you, Seattle is probably closer to 1% to 2%, but occupancy is still in the mid-96s. And I'm seeing probably more strength coming out of places like the U District, Renton and then Bellevue. But overall, Seattle is hanging in there.

Operator

Our next question is from Haendel St. Juste with Mizuho Securities.

Haendel St. Juste

My question was a bit of -- I guess, a bit of a follow-up to the last question from Peter there. Mike, the West Coast has been stronger in the last couple of years. San Francisco obviously has come rolling back. Seattle showed some improvement. But I'm curious if the pendulum could be shifting back to the East Coast as we think about '27. So I'm curious if you could share some color on the setup for your East Coast markets, New York City, Philly, D.C. and Boston, how that compares to San Francisco, Seattle and SoCal?

Michael Lacy

Yes, it's a really good question, Haendel. I'd tell you, there's a few ways to look at it. And I think maybe just sticking with the West Coast because I gave a little color on Seattle. I think it's important to really look at a place like San Francisco. And I mentioned, call it, 13% blends over the last couple of quarters. What I look at more right now is the continuation of low rent-to-income ratios. So we're still in that low 20% range, still have some room to grow there. There's still low supply coming for the foreseeable future. And the fact that we've been capped on some of our renewals there, we think we have another hit at it as we go into next year, just given what we see for loss to lease.

So I think San Francisco, obviously, they're going to have the highest earn-in for next year. So a really strong building block, if you will. But I still think they have a lot of room to grow, all else being equal, given what we're seeing with supply, demand and just people returning to office. And so I think San Francisco will still be the anchor for us out west.

And then when you kind of jump over to the East Coast, New York has been the anchor all year long. I think it's going to continue to do well as we go into next year. And I'd say to kind of frame it, I look at it in terms of earn-in again. They're going to have the second strongest earn-in across our portfolio as we go into next year. We're still seeing blends of plus or minus 4% to 5% even in kind of that lower demand period of time. We do have a little bit of supply just with conversions down in Manhattan, but it really hasn't impacted us to date, and we think that we're going to continue to drive rents out there.

So I think there's some pretty big anchors, both West Coast, East Coast, it all comes back to that earn-in and that starting point, if you will. We're going through our budget process right now. We'll assess kind of what we think we can get for rents, and that will be the other building block. And then I think what you've seen from us for years now is continued growth on that other income line. Quite frankly, you look at last year, we were growing other income by 9%. This year, it's growing this quarter alone by 7%. You're probably looking at mid-single digits as we go into next year again. So another strong building block, if you will, just based on us driving initiatives, getting the teams engaged and really producing that outsized revenue growth at the end of the day.

Operator

Our next question is from John Pawlowski with Green Street.

John Pawlowski

My first is a follow-up on the Apollo JV. Dave, can you give us a sense for what percentage of the property cash flow actually flows to Apollo versus UDR in the first few years of the agreement and then how it might step up in subsequent years?

David Bragg

John, thanks for the question. We appreciate the continued dialogue. So the return is targeted to Apollo. It's not guaranteed, and they bear the risk that growth or exit values could fall short, and they can earn up to that capped return. So that's 7% and then it steps up to 7.3% and 7.6%, respectively, at year 7 and year 9 in the call window, but only if the portfolio performs. If it underperforms, Apollo could earn less. There's no coupon, no minimum distribution, no UDR guarantee.

As it relates to distributable cash flow, it's pro rata. It tracks the headline 67-33 ownership, so there's no coupon or minimum distribution. As it relates to partners' economics, I can say that vehicles like this, they can have mechanisms allowing for incremental cash flows to Apollo. They are variable. They're based on performance. They're not guaranteed. And then as that occurs, Apollo can get close to its return along the way, allowing UDR to enjoy the value creation opportunity on the back end.

Operator

Our next question is from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets.

John Kim

For the DPE assets that you acquired this quarter or about to acquire next year, can you just comment on the expected yields that you think you'll get either year 1 or on a stabilized basis? And would you characterize these investments as long-term holds given they are new assets? Or are you really just looking to optimize your initial investment and they're not really representative of your portfolio?

David Bragg

John, it's Dave. So 2 development projects with one partner to whom UDR provided mezz back in 2022. So we have an extensive history with these assets. We know them very well. We underwrote them, financed them and now manage them. Once we made the strategic decision to exit the DPE business and run off the book that we announced last quarter. We saw mutually beneficial resolutions with this partner on these assets because we are interested in owning them long term. So taking control allows us to own high-quality newly built communities. It allows us to reduce the DPE book, which is a strategic objective. You can see that the balance is now around $250 million. That's what we told you last quarter, we would finish the year at. So we are at the year-end level already.

We're also able to convert what was a fixed return on that investment into owned NOI with upside on our operating platform. And Mike can speak to that now that he has them in his hands. Together, these assets screen well on a couple of things that are very important to us, operating upside potential and CapEx. There's a lease-up nature here of these assets. So we're looking for them to stabilize around the 5.

Michael Lacy

Yes, Dave, if I could just add a couple of things just since we've been able to get our hands on these. I think it's good just to look at the 4 deals we've taken over the last few months. When you look at that portfolio as a whole, we are actually exceeding our underwriting by about $1 million. And a lot of that comes from beats and controllable expense savings. Dave mentioned it, but the fact that we now have more scale and efficiency in places like Portland as well as in Inland Empire, we're able to drive our cost down. That's paying dividends today. And I'd say, in addition to that, we've been able to drive our occupancy up rather quickly, and we're getting that penetration up on some of these initiatives that are driving our other income. So that's led to that $1 million beat just over the last few months.

I think specific to the deal out in Inland Empire, what we're excited about is that controllable operating margin, it's expected to be right around 85% when we get stabilized. And that's about 200 basis points better than our current existing same-store deals in that market. So there's room to try to drive some efficiencies there, obviously, get that higher rent growth helps out. And I'd say, in addition to that, just the Portland deals, we were able to quickly get in there, get SmartRent established, do our self-guided tours. It's really helped with the funnel. And so getting demand through the door, it's allowed us to keep concessions down, occupancy high, and we feel good about that market today.

Operator

Our next question is from Alex Kim with Zelman & Associates.

Alex Kim

This one maybe is for you, Dave, but you guys have emphasized reducing exposure to assets with higher capital requirements. And following the dispositions and Apollo transaction, how should we think about kind of the normalized run rate for recurring CapEx on the retained portfolio? And after accounting for UDR's ongoing capital obligations in the JV and the newly consolidated DPE assets, how much improvement should we expect in that conversion from FFOA to AFFO?

David Bragg

It's a great topic, something that is a focus here. And to answer your question, I really would focus on the dispositions that we've done this year because I think they're emblematic of not just the focus on CapEx, but the focus on operating upside potential and the signal from Orion. But let's dig in on CapEx.

So for these assets, I'm counting 8 here, including the one that's under contract. Average vintage is 1981, so that's 45 years old. CapEx as share of revenue for these communities is 18%. And that compares to about 11% is a decent estimate for the remaining portfolio. CapEx can be lumpy, variable. We have a redevelopment team that is able to find opportunities and create a lot of value. So in any given quarter or year, you're going to see up and down movement in CapEx. But I would tell you that directionally, we're very focused on enhancing the quality of the portfolio in various ways. One of them is through dispositions. And as we do that and then with those proceeds, primarily, we bought back the stock or with any selective acquisitions, such as the ones that we have done this year, you're enhancing the long-term cash flow prospects for the enterprise.

Operator

Our next question is from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler.

Alexander Goldfarb

David, a question on the Apollo, sort of a 2-parter. One, are there any restrictions on you guys doing joint ventures with other private equity firms? And then two, on the fee income side, on one hand, it seems like a nice additive to earnings. On the other hand, it could be short term, whereas NOI usually receives a higher multiple. So sort of curious how you guys think about increasing fee income versus NOI. And then the first part of the question was if there's any exclusivity of Apollo for PE or if you can do other PE JVs?

David Bragg

Great questions. Thank you. The first one is easy. No, no restrictions on our ability to partner with others. As it relates to fee income, we're grateful to -- for the opportunity to drive earnings growth in various ways. So you're right that over the near term, via this vehicle, there's an opportunity for fee income. But we're also utilizing the proceeds in a manner that allows us to enhance the long-term growth rate of the enterprise well beyond any presumable life of the joint venture because we are paying down debt.

We are repurchasing shares, which are generally of higher quality than what we've sold this year, and then we'll be out looking for opportunities to acquire assets that check the boxes that I walked through earlier in terms of the signal from Orion operating upside and relatively low CapEx. So this is a transaction that is accretive on day 1, but also allows us to accomplish a number of strategic objectives, which both derisk the enterprise and enhance the long-term earnings outlook.

Operator

Our next question is from Rich Anderson with Cantor Fitzgerald.

Richard Anderson

So I understand and appreciate all the flexibility and the uniqueness of the Apollo deal. And so no debate there. But UDR in the past and just more distant past was unwinding joint ventures in the name of simplifying the story. So I'm curious how you balanced all of what we're talking about here, which is taking up most -- disproportionate amount of this conference call with just the lack of -- the more complexity that it brings to the table. And there is a value and simplicity. I think we can all agree with that. I'm just curious how you thought about that broader thought as it relates to getting involved in this $2 billion deal.

Tom Toomey

Rich, I think I'll have some comments if this is to me and also ask Dave to weigh in on it. I guess this, yes, a lot of time on Apollo. I congratulate the team on a very long, thoughtful process and a very good partner who thinks about real estate much like we do. And when I think through the past and mine is a long one, you're always trying to find the right capital partner who has the same philosophy you do. So I take, for example, Met, which has been an enterprise-level relationship at 16 years and thinks very much like real estate like we do. And we have gone from a $3 billion joint venture to build up to $8 billion together and now sits right around $2.5 billion. So I think always finding capital that matches your philosophical approach and skill set and we can get an outsized return for our shareholders is part of our job, okay? The capital markets in the public space come and go, but we also have to be able to play in the private capital world with a variety of skill sets that yield returns for our shareholders that are outsized.

So I think Apollo is that next step. They think about it in a long-term view and are trying to achieve a very straightforward objective, and they've given a lot of control and options to us to help them achieve that goal. And we are rewarded for 100% of the returns above 7%. That's a pretty big incentive in this world to drive not just their return, but our performance, and they're aligned. So our shareholders benefit immensely if we're able to achieve that. And we look forward to that type of relationship. And boy, you do this long enough. I will tell you, I think I'm excited about what Apollo can achieve for us. And I don't think we're done talking to them. Dave, anything else you'd add?

David Bragg

Sure. Yes, Tom, I agree. The top objective is creating value for existing shareholders, and we believe that we've done that here by driving earnings growth and reducing leverage, which reduces risk. At the same time, our cost of capital in the public market is subject to the whims of the public markets. And there are days and there will be days in the future in which that cost of capital allows us to go out and grow on balance sheet and create value for shareholders, but that's not every day. But what we do find every day is that there's private capital that is attracted to what UDR has to offer. We have a top operating platform and a data-driven focus on investments. And so that's what we've heard out in the marketplace for many years going back to the JVs that you've alluded to and especially most recently. So we'll continue to look at various opportunities with that same overarching goal of maximizing value for shareholders.

Operator

Our final question is a follow-up from Ami Probandt with UBS.

Ami Probandt

I was just wondering how does it work for UDR to substitute assets into and out of the Apollo JV? Is there a minimum amount of time for an asset to remain in the JV? Kind of thinking about how that could impact comparability of different periods when we're looking at same-store trends. And then in terms of proceeds redeployment timing, you already did $185 million of share repurchases in the past about 2 weeks. So how quickly could you complete share repurchases to the extent that you wanted to allocate capital there? Could you do, say, $400 million, $500 million by the end of the year?

David Bragg

Thanks, Ami. As it relates to substitutions, that opportunity is solely up to UDR, and we view it as an opportunity to play offense. Let's say, for example, that our data-driven process suggests that an asset will significantly outperform over the coming years. We have the ability to go in and get that asset based on replacing the cash flow and replace it with another asset that should meet the base case plan for the joint venture. So as we do that, we'll be sure to report on that with transparency there. And that's something that we'll keep an eye on and a dialogue with you on. As it relates to share buybacks, we simply just don't provide guidance as it relates to share buybacks. We're pleased to report the activity that we've had so far, and we'll follow up with you probably at the NAREIT conference and other opportunities to comment on buyback activity.

Operator

We have one more follow-up from John Pawlowski with Green Street.

John Pawlowski

I have a clarifying question on the distribution of cash flows in the Apollo JV. So Dave, you said it will be in line. So 65% of the property level cash flow goes to Apollo, roughly 35% UDR. Where does that percentage go beyond year 10 if the JV stays outstanding?

David Bragg

Beyond year 10, there is a slight adjustment to the cash flows in Apollo's favor.

Tom Toomey

Yes, John, it's basically the 67-33 split right now. I believe it goes up to about 70% in year 10 to obviously support those IRR step-ups that they get in year 7 and year 9 if the call option is not exercised.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Toomey for closing remarks.

Tom Toomey

First, thank you for all your time and interest and support of UDR. We'll see many of you at upcoming NAREIT in a couple of weeks. And always reach out if we can answer any questions and help you understand our business and the progress the team is making. With that, take care.

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.

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