inTEST (INTT) 2026年第三季法說會:創紀錄訂單與2027年在手訂單
2026年第三季營收年增34%達3,510萬美元,創紀錄的訂單金額與在手訂單為2027年奠定穩健基礎。半導體後段與電動車需求強勁驅動毛利率擴增至47.7%,淨利改善至190萬美元。管理階層預估第四季營收介於3,400萬至3,600萬美元,毛利率約45%。
核心重點
- 2026 年第三季營收年增 34% 至 3,510 萬美元,達到管理階層財測區間的高標。
- 訂單金額達到創紀錄的 4,940 萬美元,年增 31%,且較當季營收高出 41%。在手訂單自 6 月以來增加 32%,達到創紀錄的 5,970 萬美元,其中約 60% 預計於 2027 年出貨。
- 半導體後段訂單達到創紀錄的 2,390 萬美元,將近去年同期的四倍。半導體總訂單金額季增逾一倍,達到 2,510 萬美元。
- 毛利率擴增至 47.7%,季增 720 個基點、年增 580 個基點,主要受惠於有利的產品組合。
- 淨利改善至 190 萬美元,或稀釋後每股盈餘 0.15 美元;調整後 EBITDA 增至 440 萬美元,利潤率為 12.6%。
- 管理階層預估第四季營收為 3,400 萬至 3,600 萬美元,毛利率約為 45%。公司表示,創紀錄的在手訂單為 2027 年的穩健開局提供支撐。
核心財務數據
| 指標 | 2026 年第三季 | 變動 / 評論 |
|---|---|---|
| 營收 | 3,510 萬美元 | 年增 34%;季減 20 萬美元 |
| 總訂單金額 | 4,940 萬美元 | 創紀錄;年增 31%;高於營收 41% |
| 在手訂單 | 5,970 萬美元 | 創紀錄;自 6 月以來增加 32%;約 60% 預計於 2027 年出貨 |
| 毛利 | 1,670 萬美元 | 年增 52% |
| 毛利率 | 47.7% | 季增 720 個基點,年增 580 個基點 |
| 營業費用 | 1,400 萬美元 | 季增 10 萬美元,年增 180 萬美元 |
| 淨利 | 190 萬美元 | 相較於 2026 年第二季的 50 萬美元,以及 2025 年第三季的虧損 90 萬美元 |
| 稀釋每股盈餘 | 0.15 美元 | 相較於 2025 年第三季每股虧損 0.08 美元 |
| 調整後每股盈餘 | 0.18 美元 | 相較於 2025 年第三季調整後每股虧損 0.02 美元 |
| 調整後 EBITDA | 440 萬美元 | 相較於上一季的 220 萬美元及去年同期的 40 萬美元 |
| 調整後 EBITDA 利潤率 | 12.6% | 季增 640 個基點,年增逾 1,000 個基點 |
| 現金及約當現金 | 2,090 萬美元 | 較第二季減少 120 萬美元 |
| 自由現金流 | 負 60 萬美元 | 扣除 40 萬美元資本支出後 |
| 總負債 | 550 萬美元 | 槓桿比率為過去 12 個月調整後 EBITDA 的 0.5 倍 |
| 總流動性資金 | 約 6,100 萬美元 | 包含現金及 4,000 萬美元可用借款額度 |
業務與營運表現
半導體需求是訂單增長的主要推動力。半導體總訂單金額達到 2,510 萬美元,其中後段測試幾乎佔了全部金額。管理階層指出,混合訊號、類比與高功率元件客戶紛紛擴充產能,部分受到電源轉換與通訊元件需求的支撐。
公司表示,封裝與成品測試已成為部分半導體客戶的產能瓶頸。測試機交期拉長(有時長達 18 個月),也促使客戶更早提前訂購 inTEST 的機械手臂、對接硬體與介面設備。
隨著 2024 年和 2025 年電動車成長動能放緩後,新車型發表時程重回正常軌道,汽車電動車 (EV) 訂單金額季增逾一倍至 940 萬美元。一家主要汽車製造商首次向 inTEST 下單採購功能測試系統,同時該公司亦向一家電動車客戶追加交付了兩套電池測試系統。
在獲取新客戶以及感應加熱系統訂單連續兩季增長的帶動下,國防與航太訂單較第二季成長 43%。工業領域訂單季增 9%,其中包括該公司自新增該產品線以來最大的在線測試 (ICT) 系統工業訂單。
管理階層亦致力將 inTEST 所收購的各項業務整合為協同運作的平台,聚焦於拓展商業機會、實現成本綜效、提升製造效率,並加強跨部門的研發資源共享。
管理階層財測
針對 2026 年第四季,管理階層預估:
- 營收為 3,400 萬至 3,600 萬美元。
- 毛利率約為 45%。
- 營業費用為 1,420 萬至 1,470 萬美元。
- 營業費用中包含 50 萬美元的攤銷費用。
該展望不包含潛在收購、重組及重組相關費用。同時假設管理階層對總體經濟情勢的看法至年底維持不變。
管理階層預期第四季毛利率將較第三季有所回落,主因第三季具備格外有利的產品組合。隨著 inTEST 填補高階管理職缺並著手規劃 2027 年,預期費用將溫和增加。
公司表示,創紀錄的在手訂單中約有 60% 預計於 2027 年出貨,而第三季的半導體訂單預計大部分會在該年上半年轉化為營收。2027 全年財測預計將於公布第四季財報時一併提供。
風險與觀察重點
- 供應鏈交期正在拉長。管理階層表示,儘管目前尚未見到異常嚴重的供應限制,但公司可能會對特定零組件的庫存與營運資金進行更多投入。
- 產品組合仍是影響利潤率的重要變數。半導體前段產品的利潤率通常低於半導體後段產品線。
- 管理階層指出半導體前段市場的復甦仍處於初期階段,並提醒可能無法重回三、四年前的水準。
- 預估全年有效稅率上升至約 20%(包含第二季認列的單項稅務利益),主因較高比例的利潤來自稅率較高的司法管轄區。
- 儘管半導體動能看似強勁並延續至 2027 年初,但管理階層表示,目前仍難以判斷該時期之後的市場走向。
分析師問答重點
管理階層表示,第四季訂單組合應與第三季相對類似,半導體維持強勁,且汽車電動車與軍工市場表現積極。儘管第三季訂單創下歷史新高,進入第四季時的銷售漏斗 (sales funnel) 規模仍與第三季初的水準大致相當。
在功能測試方面,管理階層表示汽車電動車仍佔業務的大宗。拓展至工業及其他終端市場仍處於初期階段,不過公司已在汽車電動車以外領域取得初步成果。
半導體前段市場熱度有所改善,但管理階層將此復甦定調為初生階段。產能利用率正在上升,而前段產品的利潤率通常低於半導體後段設備,因為前段銷售對象通常為其他設備製造商。
國防與航太需求涵蓋 inTEST 的多項業務,包括用於 PCB 測試的飛針測試系統、感應加熱設備、製程冷卻機以及特定相機產品。服務收入佔當季營收略高於 14%,與該公司的一般水準大致相符。
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管理層陳述
Operator
Greetings. Welcome to inTEST Corporation's third quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Sanjay Hurry, Investor Relations. Thank you, and you may begin.
Unknown Speaker
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me on the call are Rich Rogoff, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Duncan Gilmour, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer.
Our earnings press release was issued this morning, as well as the slides that management will reference during today's call. Both can be found in the Investor Relations section of the intest.com website. Please refer to Slide 2 for a review of the Safe Harbor statement.
During this call, management may make some forward-looking statements about their current plans, beliefs, and expectations. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what is stated here today. These risks, uncertainties, and other factors are detailed in the earnings press release, as well as in other documents filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents can be found on the inTEST website or on SEC.gov.
Also, as covered on Slide 3, management will refer to some non-GAAP financial measures. We believe these will be useful in evaluating the company's performance. However, you should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. You can find reconciliations of non-GAAP measures with comparable GAAP measures in the tables that accompany today's release and slides.
With that said, I will now turn the call over to our first speaker, Rich Rogoff, President and CEO. Please go ahead, Rich.
Unknown Speaker
Thank you, Sanjay. Good morning, everyone. On today's call, I will review our third quarter performance, including the record orders we pre-announced on October 5. Duncan will then take you through the financial results and our outlook for the fourth quarter. I will come back to discuss how we are positioning inTEST for 2027 before we open the call to questions.
To begin with, the semiconductor demand we told you to expect arrived in the third quarter. Let me frame our performance around 2 points.
First, demand is here and it extends into 2027. Orders were a record at $49.4 million, exceeding our revenue by 41%, and up 31% from a year ago. The driver was a record $23.9 million in back-end semiconductor orders, nearly 4x the level of a year ago. Non-semi orders of $24.3 million rose 44% from the second quarter. Year over year, they were lower than a strong prior year quarter that was driven by auto EV. Backlog at quarter end was also a record at $59.7 million, up 32% since June, and approximately 60% of it is expected to ship in 2027.
Second, we continue to grow. Revenue of $35.1 million came in at the high end of our guidance range, up 34% from $26.2 million a year ago. This was our third consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth above 25%. Gross margin of 47.7% was above our guidance and driven by favorable mix.
Turning to Slide 5, total semi orders were $25.1 million, representing about half of the quarter's total orders and more than double the Q2 level. Back-end tests accounted for almost all the semi orders. Customers in the mixed signal, analog, and high-power device markets are adding back-end test capacity, fueled in part by the demand for power conversion and communications devices. Our newer products played a meaningful role in capturing those orders.
What semi customers tell us is that the constraint has moved from building wafers to packaging and testing finished devices fast enough. Every tester they add needs a manipulator, docking hardware, and interface. Beyond total orders, the quarter showed the breadth of our semi momentum. We grew with existing customers and added new ones. We were selected for new test sites at existing customers, received the first order from a customer that had not purchased from us in a decade, added a data storage customer serving the data center market, and received an order for our high-voltage interface hardware, ordered for a customer's evaluation of a new silicon carbide wafer test platform.
Customers are also ordering further ahead of need than they used to. Testers often carry lead times of 18 months, so customers are placing orders for our accompanying equipment well ahead of the delivery. This gives us better visibility than we typically have.
Outside of semi, auto EV orders of $9.4 million more than doubled Q2's level as new model releases get back to a normal schedule after a slowdown in the EV momentum from 2024 through 2025. Year-over-year auto EV orders were lower against an exceptionally strong third quarter of 2025. However, we view this sequential improvement as encouraging.
In Q3, a major automaker placed its first order for our functional test systems, which will be used to test power management systems. We also received repeat orders from existing functional test customers and shipped 2 more battery test systems to an EV customer.
In defense aerospace, orders grew 43% compared to Q2. We added new aerospace and defense customers, and orders for induction heating systems from this market rose for a second consecutive quarter.
In industrials, orders were up 9% sequentially. A customer placed the largest industrial order we have received for our in-circuit test systems since adding this product line to our portfolio.
Here's what this means for the next several quarters. First, stronger orders give us an improved visibility over the next 2 to 3 quarters. Second, the sales funnels refilled. Even after capturing record orders in Q3, our funnel as we entered Q4 was roughly comparable to the start of Q3. Our opportunity set is intact, giving us confidence and continued order momentum in Q4.
Third, technology wins are opening new doors. As customers and new end markets wrestle with how to design, test, and deliver high-power and energy conversion products, it increasingly means we get the call for our solutions to their toughest challenges. We are excited to see our technologies and expertise in handling heat become more critically valued in so many new applications. Today's engagement on customers' toughest challenges becomes tomorrow's funnel opportunity and, in time, tomorrow's orders.
Together, these factors position us to close 2026 at the high end of our revenue guidance and gives us a solid start to 2027.
One note on our supply chain. As we noted on our release, lead times are expanding. Our supply chain and engineering teams are adapting accordingly and are managing the situation.
With that, I will turn it over to Duncan. Duncan?
Duncan Gilmour
Thank you, Rich. Starting on Slide 6, on a sequential basis, revenue in Q3 was essentially flat, down $0.2 million from $35.3 million in Q2 to $35.1 million. Higher defense aerospace, semi, industrial, and other revenue largely offset a $6.8 million decline in auto EV following Q2's shipment of high-revenue, lower-margin auto EV projects from backlog. Defense aerospace increased $3.6 million, semi increased $2.5 million, industrial contributed $0.8 million, and other contributed $0.7 million. Partially offsetting these gains, in addition to the auto EV decline, was a $0.8 million decrease in life sciences.
Compared to Q3 2025, revenue increased $8.8 million or 34% from $26.2 million. The net increase was driven by defense aerospace, which more than tripled on higher program activity, together with growth in auto EV, semi, and industrial. Together, these 4 markets contributed $9.9 million of growth, which more than absorbed declines in life sciences and safety security.
Turning to Slide 7, Q3 gross profit was $16.7 million, up 52% year over year, and gross margin was 47.7%. Sequentially, gross margin expanded by 720 basis points from 40.5%, reflecting a large positive shift in product mix. Compared with the prior year period, gross margin increased 580 basis points from 41.9%, reflecting the same positive shift in mix.
Moving on to Slide 8, operating expenses for the third quarter were $14 million, up $0.1 million sequentially, as higher general administrative expenses were largely offset by lower amortization of intangibles. On a year-over-year basis, we generated $8.8 million of incremental revenue while absorbing only $1.8 million of incremental operating expenses. This reduced operating expenses as a percentage of revenue to 39.9% from 46.4% in the prior year period.
The $1.8 million or 14.8% increase reflects higher selling, general administrative, and engineering expenses, primarily higher payroll and payroll-related costs and higher commissions associated with higher volume, partially offset by lower amortization and restructuring costs.
Slides 9 and 10 collectively measure our profitability. On Slide 9, net margin expanded by 400 basis points sequentially and 890 basis points year over year to 5.3%. And adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 640 basis points sequentially and over 1,000 basis points year over year to 12.6%.
For Q3, net earnings were $1.9 million compared with $0.5 million in the second quarter and a net loss of $0.9 million in Q3 2025. Adjusted EBITDA was $4.4 million, up from $2.2 million in the second quarter and $0.4 million in Q3 2025.
On Slide 10, net earnings were $0.15 per diluted share compared with a net loss of $0.08 per diluted share in the prior year period. Adjusted EPS, which adds back tax-affected acquired intangible amortization and restructuring charges, was $0.18 per diluted share, compared with an adjusted net loss of $0.02 per diluted share in Q3 2025.
One item to note, since it affected per share results this quarter, is on the tax line. Our effective tax rate in Q3 was approximately 30%. This brings our year-to-date tax rate up to an increased expected full-year rate of approximately 20%, including the discrete benefit recorded in Q2. The higher expected rate is driven by a higher proportion of profitability being generated in our higher-tax jurisdictions.
Slide 11 shows our capital structure and cash flow. We ended Q3 with cash and cash equivalents of $20.9 million, a decline of $1.2 million from the end of Q2. Operating activities used $0.3 million of cash in the quarter. Net earnings and non-cash charges contributed approximately $4.4 million, which was more than offset by a $3.6 million increase in accounts receivable and a $1 million reduction in customer deposits and deferred revenue.
After $0.4 million of capital expenditures, free cash flow was negative $0.6 million. We also reduced the term debt by $1 million during the quarter.
At September 30, 2026, we had approximately $61 million in total liquidity, including $20.9 million of cash and equivalents and $40 million of available borrowing capacity, consisting of $30 million under our delayed draw term loan facility and the full $10 million under our undrawn revolving credit facility.
On August 14, we amended the facility to extend our ability to draw on the term note through August 28, 2028. Total debt was $5.5 million and our leverage ratio was 0.5x trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. We were in compliance with all covenants at quarter end.
Turning to Slide 12 and our financial guidance. Q3 came in at or better than our August guidance on revenue, gross margin, and operating expenses. Our Q4 guidance maintains that steady incremental progression with 2 factors to keep in mind. First, Q3's product mix was particularly favorable. Second, we expect some modest expense increases in Q4 as well as we fill open leadership positions and start planning for 2027.
Looking beyond Q4, we are positioned for a solid start to 2027. Our record backlog, roughly 60% of which ships in 2027, together with Q3 semiconductor orders converting largely in the first half, supports that outlook. We will provide full-year 2027 guidance with our fourth quarter results, as is our practice.
For Q4, we project revenue of $34 million to $36 million, gross margin of approximately 45%, operating expenses of $14.2 million to $14.7 million, and within operating expenses, amortization of $0.5 million.
This guidance excludes any potential acquisitions and restructuring and restructuring-related costs and assumes our view of macroeconomic conditions remains unchanged through the end of the year.
One housekeeping note, after the market closes today, we intend to file our Form 10-Q. We will also file a Form S-3 to refresh our existing shelf registration before it expires.
Now, if you turn to Slide 13, I will turn the call back over to Rich. Rich?
Unknown Speaker
Yes. Thanks, Duncan. Before we open the call to questions, I want to walk you through how electronification connects our end markets, how it is shaping our R&D and our new product priorities, and how it is creating new opportunities for inTEST.
Electronification is making customer testing more complex and essential, which is increasing demand for our solutions. Our portfolio is positioned well to meet these changing needs.
In semi, our advanced manipulators and high-power chillers address customers' growing power and thermal and testing requirements. The same trend is reshaping our flying probe business. These systems were originally built to check circuit board continuity and perform basic probing, but now they must meet more demanding test requirements as customers add electronics to their products. Battery testing is a clear example as it requires longer, more complex routines than flying probe systems have traditionally run.
We are expanding these systems from single-purpose testers into broader test platforms. Each new application adds test content per system, increasing the value for both the customers and to inTEST.
Our functional test systems are following a similar path. First developed for auto EV, they now also serve other end markets. Our teams are also working more closely to win customers. As an example, in Q3, an industrial customer for an in-circuit test system placed a separate order for one of our functional test systems.
In European markets where new regulations are restricting the usage of certain refrigerants, we will launch a first-of-a-kind new product next week that conforms to the new legislation that we believe equals or exceeds the performance of its predecessor.
Collaboration like this helps us grow revenue, but that's only half the job. The other half is making sure more of that growth reaches the bottom line consistently and through the cycle.
On my first call as CEO, I stated I would develop an operational plan for inTEST and share it with you. In our Q2 call, I outlined where I was focused and that work is well underway.
Over the past 2 quarters, I have examined the business through 5 lenses: our product levers that drive profitability, including product cost, mix, and supply chain; how efficiently we deploy our operating expenses; how we optimize our manufacturing footprint; how we can share R&D more effectively across our divisions.
Over that time, I have visited our facilities, met with our teams, and worked with my direct reports to develop detailed actions.
inTEST has grown through acquisitions, and our businesses have largely been run and managed separately. inTEST's next phase is to operate our business as a coordinated platform, capturing commercial opportunities, cost synergies, and a sharing of ideas.
To help execute this plan, Scott Taylor joined inTEST on October 1 as Vice President and General Manager of ITS, reporting to me. Scott brings more than 20 years of multi-site P&L responsibility, including leading North American operations of a thermal management manufacturer and a deep background in lean manufacturing and operational excellence. He will help ensure we deliver on the plan.
The plan is as much about where we direct our dollars as it is about where we take them out. As we plan for 2027, we will put our spending where it earns the best return. In our operations, that means continued efficiency gains. In our product, it means a disciplined engineering spend because the demands our customers are bringing us, such as the test applications I described a moment ago, make that the best investment inTEST can make.
To summarize, as we see it today, we are entering 2027 with a promising momentum and with our operational plan aimed squarely at profitability, efficiency, and inTEST's long-term success.
With that, operator, please open the call to questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Max Michaelis with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed.
分析師問答
Maxwell Michaelis
Hey guys, congrats on the quarter. First one for me, if we look at the Q3 order book, obviously really solid. Sounds like that funnel's filled back up for Q4. I assume semi's a big part of that, but I'll let you answer it for me. Is the mix going to be relatively similar in terms of order or the order book for Q4 as we saw in Q3?
Unknown Speaker
Yes, thanks Max. Good to speak with you. Certainly semi is maintaining strength, but as noted, we're pretty positive about the activities in the other markets like auto EV and military as well.
Duncan Gilmour
Right. So I would just add Max, in terms of the mix, similar mix. Our guide does take margin down a little bit, as you probably saw. So we do see some small shifts to drive that, but certainly relatively positive mix there.
Maxwell Michaelis
Versus the way we were, for example, in Q2? Yes, and the Q4 gross margin guide makes sense. I mean, just given your commentary around Q3 orders from semi largely converting in Q3, first half of '27, but I'm curious to know, a lot of these guys are ordering ahead of time. I mean, conversations you're having with your customers going into 2027 is, what we saw in Q3 and Q4, was that largely pull-forwards from these customers, or do you expect to see that order book continue to see solid strength heading into the first few quarters of 2027?
Unknown Speaker
Certainly, we'll guide to 2027 later, but the momentum seems pretty strong right now. I think it's hard to tell what the market's going to do, but we do see strength in semi for sure, seemingly to go into the early part of 2027 at least.
Maxwell Michaelis
All right, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.
Operator
Our next question is from Ted Jackson with Northland Securities. Please proceed.
Edward Jackson
Again, congrats on the quarter. It's nice to see everything turning and business humming. So I want to touch base on supply chain. You know you've made a comment with regards to increased lead times. It's not the first company I've listened to this cycle make those types of observations. And so I guess what I wanted to dig into on this was, where are those pinch points? What kind of materials? How should we think about that? As we think about your working capital, really kind of, let's call it the coming 6, 12 months or whatever you want to put to it. I mean, I'd assume a lot of companies are actually taking inventory up relative to kind of historic norms because of these kind of issues and just kind of building more of a buffer. Is any of that kind of effort being driven by your customer base? That's kind of my first topic.
Duncan Gilmour
Yes, let me take that, Ted. So I don't think we're seeing any unusual supply chain challenges with large bumps in demand that we're obviously seeing. There's going to be some, and there certainly are bits and pieces, as we would typically expect. But that's part and parcel of managing the ups and downs of the business.
So nothing that we can't... We do manage it in some cases a little bit more investment in working capital and inventory, depending on the pieces and parts, but there's nothing out of the ordinary today. There's always battles, but nothing particularly unusual that we're highlighting.
Edward Jackson
And then, I almost said it was in my head, now I just went back out. Let's talk about Alfamation. You commented on this a little bit in the past that you had an air pocket with sort of the restructuring, if you would, of vehicle manufacturing and the shift off of EVs and reposition themselves and you're now starting to see some strength in there and you also have talked about your efforts to and success in extending the markets that some of those solutions go beyond auto and EV.
When you look into the opportunity funnel in front of you and maybe even the orders that you booked in the third quarter, can you provide some color with regards to the mix between auto EV and other markets and kind of how that's changed in the last 12 months?
Unknown Speaker
Yes, sure, Ted. So I would say generally, the majority is still in the auto EV space. That's certainly their strength. And as that market seems to be settling back into its normal cycles, we're seeing our continued strength in there, but as we mentioned, we had industrial customers and some other customers outside of the space looking at our functional test systems.
We've had some continued wins. I would say it's early phase of growing that market. It's building our name in that market and growing for the products and getting some of those wins that will drive the future of the growth in those spaces.
Edward Jackson
Okay, and then my last question, I just wanted to touch over on semi, on the front end. You know, the back end turn, you're feeling really good about where you stand. You had good order momentum in this quarter. You think it's going to continue at least into the first half of 2027. You know, those cycles can be 12, 18 months long. So you've got a good runway there.
What's going on on the front-end side? What are you seeing in terms of activity, pipeline opportunity, sort of the next leg, if you would, that might lift that segment higher as much?
Unknown Speaker
Yes, I think, as we've mentioned before, there's some signs of life activity growing in that space. I would say it's maybe a bit more active than it was a month ago when we pre-announced our orders. But it's still early stages in my opinion.
I think as we go forward, we're certainly hoping that that market comes back again. I'll caution, I don't think it's going to come back to what it did 3 or 4 years ago. But the capacity seems to be being utilized, and that's a good sign. The activity level is certainly picking up, and we're going to stay on top of that.
Edward Jackson
And then is that a margin structure similar to the back end or how would you compare it?
Duncan Gilmour
Yes, margin-wise, it's typically not quite as good. Those product lines, quite often we're selling to other manufacturers of equipment. So generally, the margins aren't quite as high as the back-end semi space that we've touted as being generally our highest margin product lines.
Edward Jackson
Okay. All right. Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Congrats. Thanks, Duncan.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Dick Ryan with Oak Ridge Financial. Please proceed.
Richard Ryan
Thank you. Say, Rich, question on the defense side. In the slide deck, you said the induction heating had 2 quarters now of business there. How are your divisions hitting the defense cycle, or the defense industry? I mean, it's good to see that Embraer is participating in that, but how else are you hitting the defense side?
Unknown Speaker
It's a good question, Dick, thanks. Many of our businesses, I would say almost all of them, with the exception of maybe our EMS business, which is, you know, almost exclusively semi, all participate in the defense cycle to some degree with varying, you know, mostly with the prime contractors. We don't directly go to the government very often, but usually through the big prime contractors.
Duncan Gilmour
Yes, I mean, I can add a little bit as well. We do sell across our business units there, Dick. The in-circuit flying probe testers are used for PCB type testing across a number of primes and so forth. The induction heating equipment we reference in manufacturing processes. The environmental business with process chillers, for example, does some significant business with, again, a number of the larger primes. And Videology as well. Some of the cameras, we have some small lines there that are also going into that space. So it really cuts across the business.
Richard Ryan
That's good to see. One of the goals, obviously, say, Duncan, on the service side, I don't know if I caught what service represented in the quarter. What's your thoughts on that?
Duncan Gilmour
Yes, service is running just over 14%, which is a fairly typical number for us. You know, that percentage drops sometimes as revenues increase. The dollar is fairly stable, but we've been running reasonably stable numbers there in our service business.
Richard Ryan
Okay, thank you and congratulations on the quarter.
Duncan Gilmour
Thanks.
Operator
There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to Rich for closing remarks.
Unknown Speaker
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us. Demand has arrived. It is in our expanding backlog, and we are executing on our operational plan to convert it consistently.
Please reach out to our Investor Relations team to coordinate our continued dialogue. On Slide 14, please note the details regarding the replay of this call, as well as our upcoming investor event schedule. We hope to see you at one of the conferences we will be attending.
Thank you again for participating today, and have a great day.
Operator
Thank you. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may disconnect at this time.
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