霸菱BDC (BBDC) 2026年第三季財報電話會議：NAV持穩，4億美元CLO再融資

Barings BDC (NYSE: BBDC) 公布 2026 年第三季每股淨資產價值維持穩定，且股利獲得全額覆蓋。投資組合成長推動槓桿率升至管理階層目標區間上限附近，同時一筆規模 4 億美元的新 CLO 融資解決了該公司近期面臨的最大債務到期問題。

重點摘要

• 截至 2026 年 9 月 30 日，每股淨資產價值為 10.92 美元，相較於 6 月 30 日的 10.94 美元。
• 淨投資收益為 2,720 萬美元，折合每股 0.26 美元，全額覆蓋當季每股 0.26 美元的季度股利。
• BBDC 投入 1.96 億美元於新投資，並錄得 1.46 億美元的出售與還款，帶動投資組合淨成長約 5,000 萬美元。
• 以公允價值計，投資組合總額達到約 25 億美元。其債權及其他產生收益證券的加權平均殖利率維持在 10.2%。
• 以公允價值計，非應計貸款比例升至投資組合的 1.1%。若排除透過 Sierra 交易收購並受信用增強協議保護的資產，該比例則為 0.7%。
• 季度結束後，BBDC 為一筆規模 4 億美元的 CLO 融資定價，擬用於償還 11 月 23 日到期、利率 3.3% 的 3.5 億美元無擔保票據。

關鍵財務數據

業務與營運表現

當季新投資的加權平均利差為 541 個基點，大致與還款資產 540 個基點的利差相當。自季度結束以來，BBDC 又出資 7,360 萬美元進行投資，幾乎全為第一順位抵押貸款，加權平均殖利率為 9.1%。

管理階層表示，其業務重點仍放在核心中型企業市場，認為該領域相較於超大型企業市場具備更佳的相對價值。投資組合主要由優先擔保與浮動利率資產組成，其中 93% 的資產採浮動利率。

在總體經濟不確定性下，槓桿收購完成率仍接近歷史低點。管理階層表示，交易環境放緩同時也抑制了還款速度，這有助於支撐來自現有借款人的經常性收益，並創造後續追加投資的機會。

風險評級變動幅度不大。評級為 4 和 5（代表壓力最大的類別）的投資在投資組合中的佔比由上一季的 6% 升至 7%。BBDC 約有 90% 的投資是由 Barings 擔任主辦或共同主辦貸款人所發起，這讓該平台在條款修訂與債務重組方面擁有更大的影響力。

管理階層展望

董事會宣布第四季股利維持不變，為每股 0.26 美元。管理階層表示，儘管結轉收益餘額預計將在年底前減少，但配息仍獲得投資組合收益及每股約 0.80 美元結轉收益的支撐。

BBDC 預期第四季淨槓桿率將降至約 1.15 倍至 1.16 倍。這項預期降幅預計將來自還款以及可能向其合資企業出售投資組合資產。

管理階層的基本情境假設是第四季投資利差將維持在第三季水準附近。然而，管理階層也坦言，針對有限槓桿收購交易的競爭加劇，可能會在 2026 年底或 2027 年初略微壓低利差。

該公司亦正考慮退出 Security Holdings，可能於 2027 年第一季進行。管理階層表示，將這筆不產生收益的股權部位回收資金，再投資於能產生收益的資產，有助於抵銷較高的再融資成本。

風險與關注領域

新 CLO 的加權平均利率為 SOFR 加 164 個基點，明顯高於即將被再融資的票據之 3.3% 固定利率。管理階層預期浮動利率投資組合以及 Security Holdings 收益的潛在再投資將有助於吸收利息增加的影響，但也表示未來的信用問題可能會影響配息能力。該公司表示，如有必要將調降股利，而非消耗淨資產價值來維持配息水準。

實物支付 (PIK) 收益亦有所增加。管理階層將該變動的主要原因歸咎於 Policy Services，這是一家非標準汽車保險公司，受到佛羅里達州保單定價走軟的影響。BBDC 在當季允許該借款人以實物支付利息，以便在評估各種方案時保留流動性。在全部 PIK 收益中，約 60% 是在最初承作時即已架構完成，而 40% 則是源自涉及信用問題借款人的條款修訂。

私募股權持有期拉長以及所謂的「殭屍基金」仍是另一項隱憂。管理階層表示，最終結果越來越取決於發起人的可用資金、營運資源以及支持投資組合公司的意願。隨著 2028 年和 2029 年的債務到期高峰臨近，可能需要進行展期、再融資或更積極的債務重組。

BBDC 亦表示，其投資組合對 AI 顛覆性影響的直接曝險有限。在 BBDC 中型企業信貸的授權範圍內，管理階層無意追求特定 AI 相關策略，例如新興雲端服務商 (neocloud) 發行人、以晶片為擔保的資產擔保融資或資料中心房地產。

分析師問答重點

• 股利可持續性：管理階層預期在完成 CLO 交易後再融資成本將上升，但認為浮動利率資產收益以及 Security Holdings 出售所得的潛在再投資有望加以抵銷。信用狀況惡化仍是股利面臨的主要下行風險。
• 槓桿率：由於極具吸引力的資金投放機會以及對預期還款的高掌握度，BBDC 在第三季刻意維持在槓桿區間上限附近運作。管理階層目標在年底前降至約 1.15 倍至 1.16 倍。
• PIK 收益：Policy Services 是當季增加的主要驅動因素。管理階層將該借款人所處市場定調為週期性市場，並允許其以實物支付 (PIK) 利息以保留流動性。
• ECLIPSE 投資：管理階層仍將 ECLIPSE 視為一項長期、反週期的資產基礎貸款曝險。BBDC 目前沒有擴大該部位規模的計劃。
• 貸款人主導權：Barings 在 BBDC 約 90% 的投資中擔任主辦或共同主辦貸款人，管理階層認為這提升了其在條款修訂、到期展期及回收結果方面的影響力。

完整財報電話會議逐字稿

完整財報電話會議逐字稿

管理層陳述

Operator

At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Barings BDC, Inc. conference call for the quarter ended September 30, 2026. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available approximately 2 hours after the conclusion of the call on the company's website under the Investor Relations section.

Please note that this call may contain forward-looking statements that include statements regarding the company's goals, beliefs, strategies, future operating. Although the company believes these statements are reasonable, actual results could differ materially from those projected in forward-looking statements. These statements are based on various underlying assumptions and are subject to numerous uncertainties and risks, including those disclosed under the sections titled Risk Factors and Forward-Looking Statements in the company's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2026, and in other filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Barings BDC undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements unless required by law.

I will now turn the call over to Tom McDonnell, Chief Executive Officer of Barings BDC.

Thomas McDonnell

Thanks, operator, and good morning, everyone. On the call today, I'm joined by Barings BDC's President and Co-Portfolio Manager; Matt Freund; and BBDC's Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, Elizabeth Murray. I will begin with a brief overview of the quarter and then frame how we are viewing the market. Matt will follow with a more detailed discussion of the private credit environment, and Elizabeth will walk through our financial results.

Net asset value per share was $10.92 as of September 30, largely unchanged from $10.94 as of June 30. We remain active on the deployment front during the quarter. BBDC funded $196 million of investments, including 20 new portfolio companies and had $146 million of sales and repayments, resulting in net portfolio growth of approximately $50 million. The investment portfolio increased to approximately $2.5 billion at fair value, and the weighted average yield on debt and other income-producing securities was 10.2%, flat compared to the prior quarter. All told, the combination of a largely stable NAV and the strength of the underlying earnings profile of the portfolio produced a strong quarter.

During the quarter, we also continued to strengthen the balance sheet. Subsequent to quarter end, we addressed our November notes maturity ahead of schedule with a new CLO financing. Elizabeth will take you through the details, but I want to put it in context. Over the past several years, we have deliberately built the capital structure designed to hold up through a full cycle. A latter maturity profile access to multiple funding markets and revolver capacity to support our borrowers and pipeline. With this transaction behind us, our team can stay focused on investing and portfolio management.

Credit performance remains a key area of focus across the private credit market. For BBDC, nonaccruals increased modestly this quarter. But when excluding assets covered by the Sierra CSA, nonaccruals remain below 1% of the portfolio at fair value at 0.7%, and weighted average interest coverage remains healthy at 2.6x. We are actively managing each of these situations with a focus on maximizing recoveries.

One of the themes we have emphasized this year has been our expectation of greater manager dispersion in private credit. And we believe that dispersion is now clearly underway. For several years, abundant capital and benign credit backdrop allowed most managers to post similar results, masking meaningful differences in underwriting discipline. That is changing. As idiosyncratic credit issues surface and sponsors extend hold periods, differences in nonaccrual trends, NAV stability, dividend coverage and recovery outcomes are becoming more visible across the industry, and we expect that gap to widen as the cycle matures. Manager selection, underwriting, portfolio construction and workout experience matters.

In our views, the managers have performed from here will be distinguished by a few things. The quality of underwriting and documentation at origination, the depth of sponsor relationships when portfolio companies need additional support, disciplined diversification and position sizing and the experience and resources to work through stressed credits when they arise. These are not capabilities that can be built quickly in response to a turn in the cycle. Barings has invested through multiple credit cycles and the credit metrics I just described reflect that approach. We believe investors will increasingly differentiate between managers on these factors and that BBDC will benefit from that scrutiny.

With that overview, I will turn the call over to Matt to discuss the market backdrop and the BDC portfolio in more detail.

Matthew Freund

Thanks, Tom. After our first half of 2026 marked by a heightened scrutiny of private credit, investors are coming back to direct lending. The reasons are simple, and are the same ones that have drawn capital to the asset class for years, attractive income, diversification and defensive characteristics. Capital formation across the Barings platform was strong in the third quarter.

As BBDC shareholders know, we focus on the core of the middle market. We believe this segment is less competitive than the mega cap segment that has drawn so much attention during the past few years. Pricing in our core area of focus continue to offer compelling relative value compared to other credit strategies. New investments in the third quarter carried a weighted average spread of 541 basis points, in line with 540 basis points on repayments. That momentum has continued in the fourth quarter. And since quarter end, we have closed and funded $73.6 million of new investments, almost entirely first lien at a weighted average yield of 9.1%.

The scale of our existing portfolio and the breadth of our origination platform give us confidence that we can keep finding compelling risk-adjusted returns. The Barings Global Private Finance platform has deployed more capital year-to-date than it has at this point in 2025. Even so, buyout close rates are still near all-time lows as an uncertain macro backdrop keeps buyers cautious. Our pipeline is robust, but we expect the share of deals that close to stay low by historical standards. There is an upside to this dynamic. Slower deal activity also means lower repayments, which gives us a stable base of existing issuers. Our incumbent positions become a durable source of income and add-on opportunities.

Like many in our industry, we are paying close attention to private equity hold period and the rise of so-called zombie funds. In this environment, the quality of the sponsor matters more than ever. When an exit flips by 2 or 3 years, the outcome depends on whether the sponsor has capital, operating resources and willingness to keep supporting the company. It also depends on whether we have the kind of relationship that allows candid early conversations when plans change. Our portfolio is built around sponsors we have worked with through multiple cycles and that history is often what separates a constructive amendment from a contentious workout. In many instances, extending maturities to align with a sponsor's extended hold horizon may create an optimal outcome for all parties, but that is not always the case.

As we approach the maturity walls of 2028 and 2029, investors will be closely evaluating how lenders engage on these opportunities. Underlying all of this, our decisions at Barings start with capital preservation. Our portfolio continues to highlight why selectivity matters. Risk rating migration was modest this quarter. Investments rated 4 and 5, which is where we see the most stress, rose slightly to 7% of the portfolio from 6% last quarter. As Tom mentioned, weighted average interest coverage remained healthy at 2.6x. Nonaccruals ticked up modestly to 11 portfolio companies or 1.1% of the portfolio at fair value.

Excluding nonaccrual assets acquired in the Sierra transaction, which are covered by a credit support agreement, nonaccruals were 0.7% at fair value. We don't want to minimize the work these underperforming positions require. We are actively managing each of them with a focus on maximizing recoveries, preserving optionality and protecting shareholder value. AI remains a focus for our investors in every asset class. Early questions about direct lending centered on the stress and volatility AI could create for existing borrowers. As we said before, our internal analysis and discussions with industry experts show that BBDC's portfolio has very limited direct exposure to AI disruption. The longer-term effects on every industry are still unclear, but we are comfortable with the direct AI exposure and our current issuer base.

More recently, investors have asked whether we would pursue AI-related investments such as needle cloud issuers, ABS chip financing and data center real estate within the context of BBDC. To be clear, we do not believe that these strategies fit within BBDC's expected guidelines. BBDC exists to provide corporate credit exposure to middle market companies and the opportunity within that mandate is enormous. There are certainly attractive investments in the AI ecosystem, but investors should not look to BBDC for that risk profile.

To sum up, credit requires active management, and we remain focused on a small number of specific situations. Overall, the portfolio is diversified senior secured floating rate and positioned to generate attractive current income.

And with that, I will turn the call over to Elizabeth.

Elizabeth Murray

Thanks, Matt. As Tom mentioned, the third quarter was a steady one. And subsequent to quarter end, we took a significant step in our liability management strategy with the pricing of a $400 million CLO financing, which I will cover in some detail. I'll begin with our financial results and key balance sheet metrics for the third quarter.

Turning first to our results. NAV per share at September 30 was $10.92 and compared to $10.94 at June 30. The modest decline was driven by net realized losses of approximately $0.05, partially offset by net unrealized appreciation of approximately $0.02 per share while NII fully covered the dividend. Net investment income was $27.2 million or $0.26 per share compared to $0.28 last quarter. The decrease is primarily due to lower dividend income from certain equity positions that made elevated distributions in the second quarter and an increase in the income-based incentive fee.

NII of $0.26 per share covered our third quarter dividend of $0.26 per share, and year-to-date, NII has fully covered our dividend. We continue to maintain undistributed taxable deliver income of approximately $0.80 per share, and our Board declared a fourth quarter dividend of $0.26 per share, unchanged from the prior quarter. Looking ahead, we believe that the dividend remains well supported. Our predominantly floating rate portfolio benefits from the recent rise in base rates, which we expect to help offset the higher cost of refinancing or 3.3% notes.

Together with our spillover income, we believe we are well positioned to maintain this $0.26 quarterly dividend, and we'll continue to evaluate dividend levels as conditions evolve.

Moving to portfolio valuations and realized activity, net realized losses for the quarter were primarily associated with the exit of Varian and Biolam were largely offset by the reversal of previously reported unrealized depreciation. Net unrealized appreciation reflects gains in our foreign currency positions and hedges, which more than offset modest net depreciation on the portfolio, including markdowns on a small number of names.

Turning now to the CLO financing that Tom mentioned. As many investors are focused on our $350 million of 3.3% unsecured notes mature on November 23. On October 30, we priced a $400 million DLA financing, which we intend to use to fund the repayment of those notes at maturity. The CLO is expected to close mid-November and the floating rate notes carrying a weighted average interest rate of SOFR plus 164. Strategically, the transaction remains our largest near-term refinancing risk ahead of maturity as long-dated floating rig funding that is well matched to our 93% floating rate portfolio, diversifies our funding base and preserves revolver capacity for new investments and unfunded commitments. Because the 3.3% notes were issued at a very different rate environment, any refinancing will carry a higher cost. We believe the CLO is attractive relative to the alternatives available today.

Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with net leverage, which is defined as regulatory leverage net of unrestricted cash and net unsettled transactions of 1.24x and up from 1.18x at June 30, driven by net portfolio growth during the quarter as we funded $196 million of investments against $146 million for payments and sales. Leverage remains within our target range of 0.9x to 1.25x. We were comfortable operating toward the upper end of the range this quarter given the attractive investment opportunities we were seeing. And because we have visibility into a repayment pipeline, that we expected to be weighted toward year-end.

Looking ahead, we expect leverage to move back toward the middle of our target range by year-end driven by anticipated sales of portfolio investments to our joint venture with Dakas and expected repayments. Approximately 77% of our debt was unsecured at quarter end. That percentage will decline as we address our maturities to approximately 53% pro forma for the CLA. We believe that trade-off is the right one. And following the refinancing, our next maturity will not be until November 2027.

In closing, the third quarter delivered stable earnings in NAV with the pricing of our CLA, we have addressed our November maturity while further diversifying our funding sources. We believe our balance sheet is well positioned as we head into 2027.

And with that, I'll turn the call back to the operator.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Robert Dodd from Raymond James.

分析師問答

Robert Dodd

Congrats on the quarter, I mean, a very nice stable quarter. No surprises what BBDC investors want to see. A couple of questions. [indiscernible] really well, it's a quarter, but kind of topics you brought up. I think Matt said that sometimes it makes sense to extend the maturity on an outstanding loan to match up to the expected kind of exit for a sponsor, which makes a lot of sense, right? You don't want to extend beyond the sponsor's fund life necessarily or be sure. I mean how would you characterize the portfolio maturities today versus the expected sponsor fund life?

Because that also kind of ties in with 1 of your comments, Tom, the strength of the sponsor relationship and do they actually have the capital to support a business if it has issues. I mean it's all that together in the same kind of concept of where are you relative to the equity holder in the positions just like expected life in the portfolio. And that was a bit of a rampant question.

Matthew Freund

Yes. Robert, thanks for the question. I appreciate you dialing in this morning. And so I think that you're touching on a theme that is very top of mind for us as we evaluate any request to modify the duration of an existing position. And so maybe let me just offer a couple of statistics for you to reinforce how we're thinking about that. And so within the BBDC portfolio, approximately 8% of the underlying investments have a stated maturity. The largest 1 is actually an affiliate in security holdings. And so obviously, we have a lot of control over that structure itself. And then as we kick through the other hands full, we have reasons to believe that either sale processes are underway and/or the sponsors are looking on refinancing options where we've declined to provide incremental flexibility.

And so it's something that is incredibly important for us as we think about managing the duration of the book as well as candidly working towards a credit risk profile that we think is appropriate for our underlying LPs. And as part of that evaluation, the underlying fund life, the sponsor characteristics, where the sponsors are in their fundraising capacities, all inform the degree of receptivity that we have whenever these kinds of requests are making their way through our respective committees.

Robert Dodd

Got it. That's very helpful. Another 1 also kind of related to a comment made rather than the actual quarter. On the diversification side, obviously, the BBDC portfolio is not generally the control investor. That doesn't mean bearing system though, right? So could you give us any color? I mean, obviously, as you point out, credit trends are kind of, I think, going to be the key diversifier over the next several years and being in control of a process or at very least, being at the top table on a process can have a significant influence on an outcome there. So what proportion of the portfolio today, and I probably knew this 2 years ago, but what proportion of the portfolio today, are you bearing not necessarily BBDC, the control investor or control lender in a position. .

Thomas McDonnell

Yes, Robert. Yes, roughly 90% of our investments were either the lead or co-lead. And you're exactly right, being in that position, it does allow us to, in effect, somewhat control the outcome and help us inform decisions as to whether or not we want to extend the runway for the sponsor, et cetera. So I think, again, that's extremely important as we work through some of these situations and certainly being in that position gives us, like I said, that element of control, which we think is really important as we move forward.

Robert Dodd

Got it. I appreciate it. And again, congrats on the quarter. .

Thomas McDonnell

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question today is coming from Finian O'Shea from Wells Fargo.

Finian O'Shea

I wanted to ask about ECLIPSE. It's a several -- 5 to 10 or so years, I think, since you bought it from another private equity firm just seeing where that sort of is and it's sort of half-life under your stewardship. Is it something you continue to seek to grow over the long term or maybe move out of?

Thomas McDonnell

Yes. Fin, great question. I appreciate you dialing in this morning. So ECLIPSE, the reason that ECLIPSE exists within this portfolio is to provide a combination of compelling kind of risk-adjusted return to the underlying shareholders, but also to provide a little bit of countercyclical exposure in the context of cash flow lending. It's longer in our belief that asset-based strategies are likely to outperform if and when broad-based cash flow strategy experienced a little bit of a wobble. And we have seen that in origination pipelines of the respective business units over the course of the past couple of years, where whenever we start to experience periods of economic volatility, Eclipse has really attractive opportunities for deployment. And perhaps interestingly, we're on the precipice of 1 of those periods now based on recent conversations we've had with the management team there.

In terms of our expected hold horizon, it's an asset that we have long patched as being willing and able to hold into perpetuity. I do think that over periods of time, different shareholder expectations they evolve and different return expectations on a forward basis may change. But as we sit here today, in October of 2026, we don't have any change of our plans with respect to the ownership structure as it exists.

Matthew Freund

Yes. Fin, I would just say we don't expect our investment there to increase in size. So it's going to be a sizable position here. But again, it's been 1 that's been a great performer for us, but not 1 we intend on increasing exposure and BBDC with.

Finian O'Shea

Okay. Great. Can you guys update us on your spillover?

Elizabeth Murray

Yes, Fin, the spillover this quarter is about $0.80. And I anticipate that will likely decrease as we're heading at year-end. But we feel comfortable with where it is. And it's something that we monitor, but we feel comfortable with where it is and comfortable with where our dividend is at this point.

Finian O'Shea

How will it decrease? .

Elizabeth Murray

There's just some various book-to-tax differences relative to our 2025 return that will flow through in the fourth quarter.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Jason Stewart from Compass Point.

Jason Stewart

In terms of leverage and portfolio repayment activity, I guess just wondered if you could clarify, I get about $0.01 of fee income from repayments in the third quarter, that seems right to you. If you could just clarify that. And then is it your expectation that repayment activity is going to stay somewhat elevated in the fourth quarter? Or do you see opportunities for back leverage to bring leverage down? .

Thomas McDonnell

Yes. No. So I think, yes, we do expect repayments in the fourth quarter to be basically flat at this point. So we did run leverage a little higher in the third quarter, as you can see there. that was done on purpose with visibility towards a flattish repayment. We also, as you know, have the ability to sell loans down to [indiscernible] and we did not do that in the third quarter. we anticipate likely doing that in the fourth quarter. So as we've stated our target leverage, we look to bring that down probably to the 1.15, 1.16x as we move through the fourth quarter, something very similar that we did last year at this time as well.

Jason Stewart

Okay. And then just looking at spreads on new investments versus repayments that were basically flat this quarter. Any thoughts on where that's trending into the end of the year?

Thomas McDonnell

Yes. I think that if we look at the trended spreads over the course of the past 6 quarters, there was certainly an opportunity for more spread in Q1 and Q2 in light of broader private credit volatility. And I would say that, that has started to normalize in Q3. Our base case at this point is going to be that spread levels look very similar in Q4 as they did this particular quarter, but I would acknowledge that it wouldn't surprise me if a limited amount of LBO activity increases a bit of competition, and we could see a little bit of a narrowing of spreads as we move into the end of the year and the beginning of 2027. But very few data points to evidence that at this stage.

Operator

Next question is coming from Derek Hewett from Bank of America.

Derek Hewett

So PIC increased about to 10% of revenue from a little over 7% last quarter. Could you provide any additional color on that movement? And then just overall, what percentage of PIC revenue was built into the original underwrite versus amendment PIC?

Matthew Freund

Yes, sure. Thanks, Derek. Yes. And so really that for us really results from 1 investment called Policy Services. It's a nonstandard auto insurer investment that we have. And really, the market for that is primarily based in Florida. So just seeing a real softening in the rates that they charge on their insurance policies. It's really had an impact on the company's revenue and EBITDA line items. And we made the decision to allow them to pick interest for that third quarter in an effort to preserve liquidity and evaluate some of our options there. So we thought that was the prudent thing to do.

I will note that company in that market has a 40-year history of having a balance of volatility, if you will. And so quite a cyclical industry, and we do believe, ultimately, we feel like we bottomed out in terms of rate and win rate and buying rate there, and we do believe ultimately that, that will come back. But we thought it would be the prudent thing to do to have that go on pick for the quarter as we evaluate our options.

And then in terms of your question on, I think you're probably referring to whether good PIC, bad PIC overall the portfolio. Roughly 60% of the PIC in that line item is that which was structured at origination. And I would say 40% of that line item will be things we've had to do in terms of working with some of our investments that had credit issues. And so called out a kind of a 60-40 split between good and bad PIC.

Derek Hewett

Okay. And in terms of my follow-up, could you provide additional color on the dividend sustainability, just given that you're going to have some headwinds from a funding cost perspective as those low-cost bonds get refinanced? And then also in your analysis, are you assuming any additional movements in SOFR?

Elizabeth Murray

Yes. So Derek, it's a great question. It's something that we're spending a lot of time on currently with our modeling. And yes, good point top of mind for me is the fact that our funding costs do increase because we're moving from a 3.3% fixed to closer to SOFR to $1.64. The other thing that we're taking into account that both Matt and Tom have discussed in the past is the fact that we're in the process and looking to exit security holdings likely in the first quarter of 2027. And that currently is a big equity position that really doesn't generate any income producing it's not really income producing.

And so as that we're able to turn around and invest that into income-producing assets, that should help offset the higher funding cost. At the same time, if there are credit issues of any kind in the future, that could impact the dividend this point, we don't anticipate that. But if there are any -- and to your point, we do believe the uplift and where rates are going, could have a positive impact. I say all this that if for whatever reason there are credit issues, we will not we will decrease the dividend if we have to. We will not eat into NAV just to preserve a dividend.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Tom for any further closing comments.

Thomas McDonnell

All right. Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. This was a quarter in which we earned our dividend, kept NAV stable addressed our largest debt maturity ahead of schedule. We believe the dispersion emerging across private credit will increasingly reward disciplined managers, and we intend to be 1 of them. We look forward to updating you next quarter.

Operator

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