Verisk (VRSK) 2026年第三季度财报电话会：OCC增长7.4%，维持业绩指引

核心要点

• Verisk公布2026年第三季度营收为8.09亿美元，同比增长5%。按内生固定汇率计算，营收增长7.4%，其中承保业务增长7.7%，理赔业务增长6.7%。
• 订阅收入占总营收的84%，按内生固定汇率计算增长8.2%。交易型业务收入增长3.2%，但管理层预计第三季度较强劲的表现不会在第四季度重现。
• 调整后EBITDA利润率达到56.7%，同比增长90个基点。受营收增长、利润率扩张以及平均流通股数减少推动，摊薄后调整后每股收益增长14%至1.96美元。
• 管理层维持了2026年全年业绩指引，包括营收31.9亿至32.4亿美元，调整后每股收益7.45至7.75美元。预计销售周期延长以及与天气相关的业务活动减少将使业绩保持在指引区间中位附近。
• Verisk表示，AI相关产品和数据的采用率不断提高。Forms AI Builder在9月中旬发布测试版后已有14家公司使用，而在人寿解决方案（Life Solutions）中，AI赋能的开发工作带来了高达30%的实测生产力提升。
• 短期压力仍集中在交易型业务活动上。巨灾活动减少降低了承包商和理赔公估人的需求，该群体约占公司合并营收的10%。

核心财务业绩

GAAP净利润的下降主要反映了对两项成本法投资进行调整所带来的亏损，以及净利息支出的增加。经营现金流和自由现金流的下降则归因于半年度利息支出增加、现金所得税增加以及账款回收的时间差异。

Verisk在当季完成了1亿美元的加速股票回购。2026年前九个月累计回购了1050万股股票，回购授权额度中仍剩余约7亿美元。季度股息为每股0.50美元，同比增长11%。

业务与运营表现

订阅业务增长主要由表格、规则与损失成本（Forms, Rules, and Loss Costs）、巨灾与风险解决方案（Catastrophe and Risk Solutions）以及反欺诈分析业务驱动。管理层指出，客户拓展、定价以及新产品的采用是主要驱动因素。

Mozart Forms Composer在2026年新增了9家客户，其中包括Verisk与一家一级险企就该平台签署的最大规模协议。最初面向综合责任险推出的Forms AI Builder在9月中旬进入测试阶段后已有14家公司使用。

在定价、采用率提升以及与Verisk Synergy Studio相关的增销推动下，巨灾与风险解决方案实现了两位数的订阅增长。已有16家客户运行该平台，第四季度计划进行更多部署。

反欺诈业务的增长反映了续约定价提升、新客户拓展，以及数字媒体取证技术与理赔承保范围识别器（Claims Coverage Identifier）的应用。Verisk的数字媒体取证图库从3月份的6亿张图片扩展至超过8亿张。

公司还继续构建其超额与特种险（E&S）数据集。数据贡献机构承诺增至21家，该平台覆盖的E&S保费规模达到360亿美元，较上一季度财报电话会议报告的180亿美元翻了一番。

管理层表示，AI正在改善产品功能和内部开发。Fast Studio在人寿解决方案的整个软件开发生命周期中带来了高达30%的实测生产力提升。Verisk还在与一家专业险企共同开发智能体AI工作流，相关工作正朝着在美国综合责任险领域的实际验证和投产使用推进。

管理层业绩指引

Verisk维持了2026年全年业绩展望：

管理层预计，销售周期延长以及与天气相关的业务活动减少将使业绩保持在指引区间中位附近。管理层还提醒称，第三季度录得的高于预期的交易型业务收入预计不会在第四季度重现。

风险与关注重点

巨灾活动减少继续抑制维修与复原需求。承包商和公估人约占合并营收的10%，Verisk在该客户群中遭遇了回款压力以及少数客户破产的情况。管理层表示，这在2027年初可能仍是一个次要因素。

交易型业务收入仍面临低于平均水平的天气事件以及美加两国疲软财产险市场的冲击。预计这些状况将持续至第四季度。

随着保险公司对可靠性、治理、监管可解释性以及所贡献数据的处理方式进行测试，AI的应用落地进展较为审慎。因此，规模较大的企业级协议可能需要更长的实施和审批周期。

拟议中的AccuLynx交易仍取决于惯常的成交条件以及美国联邦贸易委员会的审查。管理层强调，该交易能否完成尚无法保证。

分析师问答集锦

• AI应用时间表：管理层预计AI应用将在未来12至24个月内进一步扩大。中型客户目前在获取许可方面推进较快，而大型险企则在评估更广泛的企业级部署。
• AI商业化变现：目前通过Claude MCP连接器的访问权限主要包含在核心险种合同中，并通过提高定价来实现变现。Verisk保留了随着使用规模扩大而单独收费的选项。
• 交易型业务收入：第三季度受益于人寿解决方案服务收入以及数据调用超额费用。管理层表示这些有利因素可能不会重现，而天气和财产险市场带来的压力依然存在。
• 利润率与再投资：Verisk预计将把AI驱动的生产力提升所带来的部分成本节约进行再投资，同时维持投资者日设定的利润率扩张25至75个基点的目标。
• 数据优势：管理层表示，客户逐渐发现仅凭自身专有的内部数据可能无法达到与Verisk更广泛的行业数据集相同的反欺诈效果。一家排名前五的自保零售商已通过签署一份大规模多年期协议重新采用Verisk的反欺诈解决方案。
• 资本配置：潜在的AccuLynx交易并未改变Verisk的优先考量，其重点依然是内生投资、精选战略机遇以及股东回报。

业绩电话会完整纪要

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管理层陈述

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Verisk Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Results Conference Call. This call is being recorded.[Operator Instructions]

For opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Verisk's Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations, Ms. Stacey Brodbar. Ms. Stacey Brodbar, please go ahead.

Stacey Brodbar

Thank you, operator, and good day, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for a discussion of our third quarter 2026 financial results. On the call today are Lee Shavel, Verisk's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Elizabeth Mann, Chief Financial Officer.

The earnings release referenced on our traditional quarterly earnings presentation and the associated 10-Q can be found in the Investors section of our website, verisk.com. The earnings release has also been attached to an 8-K that we have furnished to the SEC. A replay of this call will be available for 30 days on our website and by dial-in.

As set forth in more detail in today's earnings release, I will remind everyone that today's call may include forward-looking statements about Verisk's future performance, including those related to our financial guidance. Actual performance could differ materially from what is suggested by our comments today. Information about the factors that could affect future performance is contained in our recent SEC filings. A reconciliation of reported and historic non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call is provided in our 8-K and today's earnings presentation posted on the Investors section of our website, verisk.com.

However, we are not able to provide a reconciliation of projected adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin and adjusted EPS to the most directly comparable expected GAAP results because of the unreasonable effort and high unpredictability of estimating certain items that are excluded from projected non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin and adjusted EPS. The including, for example, tax consequences, acquisition-related costs, gains and losses from dispositions and other nonrecurring expenses, the effect of which may be significant.

And now I'd like to turn the call over to Lee Shavel.

Lee Shavel

Thanks, Stacey. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on our third quarter earnings call. This morning, I'll focus on three topics: First, I'll briefly review our financial and operational performance for the third quarter. Second, I will provide an update on client engagement and the strategic discussions we are having across our customer base. Third, I will discuss our innovation pipeline, including advancements with our market-leading AI solutions and capabilities. Then Elizabeth will take you through our financial results and outlook for the remainder of the year in more detail.

Before turning to our results, I want to briefly address the Delaware Supreme Court's order regarding AccuLynx, which was handed down on October 23. As we said in our press release on that day, we respect the Delaware Supreme Court's order affirming the judgment of the Delaware Chancery Court and will proceed in accordance with the court's order. The transaction remains subject to the satisfaction of customary closing conditions and the FTC review. As with any transaction, there is no guarantee that the transaction will be completed. We will provide updates on the transaction as the FTC's review process commences and moves forward as appropriate.

With that, let's turn to the quarter's results. Verisk delivered organic constant currency revenue growth of 7.4%. Growth improved sequentially from the second quarter in both Underwriting and Claims, returning to levels in line with our medium-term annual targets. Revenue growth was underpinned by an increase in subscription revenues of 8.2% and stronger-than-anticipated transactional revenue growth of 3.2%. Organic constant currency adjusted EBITDA increased 7.5%, marking another quarter of healthy margins. Diluted adjusted earnings per share increased 14%, reflecting the impact of our continued focus on share buybacks to return capital to shareholders. As we close out the year, we continue to expect that 2026 will be another year of performance in line with our Investor Day targets and maintain our guidance for this year.

Turning to client engagement. This has been an extremely active quarter as we deepen our strategic engagement through executive leadership meetings, industry conferences, including CIAB and our own Verisk hosted events and targeted account discussions. In fact, this quarter, we hosted 128 senior executive engagements. These conversations provide valuable insights into the issues shaping our clients' priorities and help inform both our innovation road map and go-to-market strategy. Importantly, they are also instrumental in driving growth for Verisk as clients are choosing to expand and extend their relationships with us as they adopt new capabilities reflecting the value of investments we have made to improve the quality of our data and technology.

Our clients are navigating a dynamic operating environment marked by rising interest rates and inflation as well as growing geopolitical and civil unrest. While these macro factors do not have a material direct impact on Verisk's operating results, they do shape insurance markets. Today, these markets are generally stable, but softer than in recent years, most notably in commercial lines and property as well as within reinsurance.

Carrier profitability remains strong, supported by a second consecutive year of lower catastrophe losses. However, lighter weather activity has reduced repair and restoration demand for our contractor and adjuster clients who account for approximately 10% of our consolidated revenue. This has contributed to strains on this customer type, including certain collection pressures and bankruptcies for a small number of these customers.

However, the longer-term trend continues to point to an ever-increasing risk environment from new emerging risks like advanced technologies, including AI, strike, riot and civil commotion, and cyber as well as greater catastrophe losses. In fact, our recently published Global Modeled Catastrophe Losses Report reinforces that weather-related events will continue to pressure the industry. The annual report calculates that the insurance industry should be prepared to withstand $171 billion in insured catastrophe losses on average in a given year, up $19 billion from a year ago, and the highest estimate Verisk has reported to date. This increase reflects continued growth in property values and insured values worldwide.

For this reason, we are focused on supporting the industry as they work to maintain underwriting discipline and make informed pricing, capital allocation and risk transfer decisions based on the full range of risk, not just the outcome of a single season. Across our client conversations, AI is top of mind, both from an opportunity and a risk perspective and there is an increasing demand from clients to validate a true return on their AI investments. To that end, we are seeing strong interest and increased activity in pilots and proof-of-concept work across our AI solutions. Reflecting this, we have seen increased growth in the license of AI-related solutions across our businesses. However, the insurance industry moves deliberately as it develops confidence in the reliability of the technology.

On the opportunity side, our clients are focused on ways they can use advanced technologies to improve efficiency, reduce operational friction and drive greater automation across their organizations. One key pain point for our clients is policy forms management, and many carriers are looking to target this area for modernization, which is resulting in strong interest for our Mozart Forms Composer platform. Mozart helps clients draft and update policy language faster, offering full version control and audit trails, which reduce compliance risk and accelerate speed to market. We have added nine new customers this year, including our largest ever agreement for Mozart with a Tier 1 carrier undertaking an enterprise-wide review of its forms process.

Our latest launch Forms AI Builder is initially available for general liability and combines generative AI with ISO content. Since its beta release in mid-September, 14 companies are already using it, with feedback indicating that it helps them move faster from emerging risk to coverage solutions.

Clients are also increasingly recognizing the value of Verisk's industry-wide and AI-ready data in delivering better outcomes and higher returns on investment in an AI world. One example is a self-insured top five retailer that brought workers' compensation claims management in-house, expecting AI to support the work. After finding that outcomes and return on investment were stronger with Verisk's data, the client returned to our Anti-Fraud solution and signed a large multiyear agreement. This underscores the importance of pairing AI capabilities with the breadth and depth of our data to deliver measurable value.

On the risk side, our conversations with carriers, particularly at the C-suite level are focused on how we can help insurers understand, assess and respond to emerging AI-related cyber and liability exposures across their existing portfolios. Clients are increasingly assessing the breadth of systemic risk associated with the adoption of AI by policyholders, including questions around liability, errors and emissions unintended outcomes and aggregation risk. Carriers are turning to Verisk as the trusted partner who has a proven track record of independently helping each insurer successfully navigate other emerging risks of the past.

To that end, we have introduced research and data tools, including an AI litigation tracker, AI exposure mapping and a U.S. data center exposure database to help clients assess and understand the risks. Customers are also finding value in engaging with us at our dedicated emerging issues workshop, something we launched as part of our core line subscription.

Turning to innovation. AI is not only enhancing the solutions we bring to market. It is also accelerating how quickly we build and deliver them. Our Life Solutions business is a good example. Fast Studio, our platform aware a genetic AI development environment helps our teams design, build and test new functionality faster across both core product engineering and client implementation projects. Early measured work shows productivity gains up to 30% across the software development life cycle. Additionally, we are making strong progress through our partnership with a leading specialty insurer to co-develop agentic AI capabilities.

Our engineering and agent building teams are working side by side with the client to develop end-to-end agent workflows. We are now in the third phase of the partnership with each phase comprising multiple sprints, building iteratively towards our next major review in December. The focus is now shifting towards real-world validation deeper integration and the path to production for U.S. general liability. Our strategy is to ensure that the capabilities and reusable artifacts created through the partnership become part of our broader product portfolio, enabling us to extend the value of this work across multiple products, our marketplace, workflows and clients.

And while AI is central to much of our innovation, we are also continuing to build our data advantage as we grow the value of our contributory data assets across Underwriting and Claims. More specifically, we are continuing to have success onboarding new data contributors to our new excess and surplus data set. We have commitments from 21 data contributors and the data set now covers $36 billion in excess and surplus premium, up from the $18 billion we shared at our last quarterly earnings call in July.

Our clients are telling us the new E&S benchmarking tool is allowing them to perform portfolio analytics. They were previously unable to do which is driving the increase in companies contributing data. Last month, we introduced an AI assistant within the tool, and we are also leveraging AI to streamline the data contribution process by accepting carrier native formats across all lines of business, including MGA data and mapping it to our new E&S data standard.

Within Claims, we have expanded our data set in digital media forensics and now have over 800 million images in our library, up from 600 million back in March. We have built the most comprehensive image library for use in fraud detection, and this is a demonstration of our ability to innovate and scale new products for our clients at speed, and we are excited about the continued momentum we are seeing.

In summary, our deep engagement with clients is helping to drive further data contribution and strong reception to new solutions across our businesses, and we are proud to work in partnership with the industry to continue to innovate and drive value.

And now I will turn the call over to Elizabeth for the detailed financial review.

Elizabeth Mann

Thanks, Lee, and good day to everyone on the call. On a consolidated and GAAP basis, third quarter revenue was $809 million, up 5% versus the prior year, reflecting growth across both Underwriting and Claims. Net income was $219 million, a 3% decrease versus the prior year, while diluted GAAP earnings per share were $1.70, up 6% versus the prior year. The decrease in net income was mainly driven by losses related to adjustments to two cost-based investments and higher net interest expense, which more than offset the operating leverage from the revenue growth and cost discipline. The increase in earnings per share reflects solid operational performance and a lower average share count.

Moving to our organic constant currency results adjusted for nonoperating items, as defined in the non-GAAP financial measures section of our press release, Verisk delivered OCC revenue growth of 7.4%, with growth of 7.7% in underwriting and 6.7% in claims, demonstrating strong growth and sequential improvement across both businesses. This quarter's performance was modestly ahead of our expectations due to stronger-than-expected transactional revenues that we do not expect to repeat in the fourth quarter. The clearest demonstration of the health of our business is the continued growth of our subscription revenues.

Subscription revenue, which comprised 84% of total revenue in the quarter, grew 8.2% on an OCC basis, compounding the 8.7% growth in the prior year period. The growth in subscription revenue was driven by continued strength across our largest subscription-based businesses including Forms, Rules, and Loss Costs, Catastrophe and Risk Solutions and antifraud analytics. In Forms, Rules, and Loss Costs, our clients are choosing to expand and extend their relationship with us. reflecting the investment we have made in our core lines reimagine program.

Additionally, we are seeing strong upsell from new add-on growth products. including Mozart Form Composer and Forms AI Builder, which Lee described earlier. We also see steady growth in the number of users as well as data poles with our Claude MCP connector, and we are excited about the recent expansion of our offering with Microsoft and Amazon as well as further content available via plan.

Within Catastrophe and Risk Solutions, we delivered another strong quarter of growth while successfully executing a major platform and model launch. We delivered double-digit subscription growth driven by strong adoption healthy pricing and upsell related to Verisk Synergy Studio. Verisk Synergy Studio was launched in late June, and we just released our first quarterly update in October, both on time and on budget. Early feedback has been very positive, and we already have 16 clients running the platform with a strong pipeline of further installations slated for the fourth quarter. We continue to be focused on supporting our clients through their migration.

In Anti-Fraud, we drove solid growth across the product suite, with strong price realization in renewals, adoption of newer innovations like digital media forensics and claims coverage identifier and the addition of new logos across self-insurance, EPAs and the health companies. These customers appreciate the value they can derive from our contributory data in identifying fraud across all lines of insurance.

Our Transactional revenues, which comprised 16% of our total revenues, increased 3.2% on an OCC basis, a significant sequential improvement from the second quarter and better than our expectations. The increase was partially a result of the abatement of some of the temporary factors that we have previously communicated and easier comparisons as well as stronger services revenue in our Life Solutions business. That said, we continue to experience the impact of below-average weather events across our Property and Restoration Solutions as well as pressure in property in the U.S. and Canada related to the soft market environment. And we expect these factors to persist into the fourth quarter.

Turning to adjusted EBITDA. OCC adjusted EBITDA grew 7.5% in the quarter. Total adjusted EBITDA margin, including both organic and inorganic results, was 56.7%, an increase of 90 basis points year-over-year. This expansion reflects operating leverage from strong revenue growth and our ongoing cost discipline. We continue to see benefits from our global talent optimization efforts, and are seeing the early signs of AI-driven productivity initiatives, which together are allowing for increased investment in innovation and our go-to-market efforts.

Moving down the income statement. Net interest expense was $53 million in the quarter compared to $42 million in the prior year period due to higher debt balances. Our current leverage of 2.5x is right at the midpoint of our targeted range of 2x to 3x adjusted EBITDA. Our reported effective tax rate was 25.7%, and compared to 25.3% in the prior year quarter. The year-over-year increase was driven by the impact of nondeductible losses associated with two cost-based investments.

Adjusted net income increased 5.4% to $254 million, while diluted adjusted EPS rose 14% to $1.96 for the quarter. Revenue growth, margin expansion and a lower average share count drove the increase, partially offset by higher interest expense and a higher tax rate.

On a reported basis, Net cash from operating activities decreased 34% to $267 million, while free cash flow declined 41% to $200 million. The decrease was primarily driven by higher semiannual interest payments and higher cash tax payments as well as the timing of certain cash collections as compared to the prior year. We remain committed to our disciplined capital allocation strategy, balancing investment in our highest return organic opportunities, select strategic opportunities and return of capital to our shareholders.

During the third quarter, we paid a cash dividend of $0.50 per share, an 11% increase year-over-year and completed a $100 million accelerated share repurchase program. In total, we have repurchased 10.5 million shares during the first nine months of 2026 and have approximately $700 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization. Our capital allocation framework is underpinned by the continued strength of our balance sheet, which remains well within our target leverage range. We have ample balance sheet capacity to continue delivering on our capital priorities while preserving our overall flexibility.

We are pleased to deliver the continued momentum we expected in the third quarter and are maintaining our outlook for 2026. That said, we do continue to see some continued impact from the elongated sales cycle as well as the lower level of weather events. Taken together, these factors likely keep our results towards the midpoint of the range. A complete listing of all guidance measures can be found in the earnings slide deck, which has been posted to the Investors section of our website, verisk.com.

We continue to expect consolidated revenue in the range of $3.19 billion to $3.24 billion. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be between $1.79 billion and $1.83 billion with adjusted EBITDA margins of 56% to 56.5%. We continue to expect net interest expense of $190 million to $200 million and our effective tax rate to be in the range of 23% to 26%. This results in adjusted earnings per share for the year in the range of $7.45 to $7.75.

And now let me turn the call back to Lee for some closing remarks.

Lee Shavel

Thanks, Elizabeth. In summary, we are experiencing the growth rebound that we anticipated in our financial results. Additionally, the increased value in our products from AI functionality is improving price realization and the increased engagement from our clients and partners as they recognize the value of our data and expertise in generating real returns on their AI investments. We continue to appreciate all the support and interest in Verisk. Given the large number of analysts we have covering us, we ask that you limit yourself to one question.

With that, I'll ask the operator to open the line for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Manav Patnaik with Barclays.

分析师问答

Manav Patnaik

I was just hoping, Lee, you made the kind of the proactive comments around the contractor and adjuster clients being 10% of your revenues. And seeing some headwinds there. I was just wondering if you could unpack that like are you -- is that implying that those headwinds continue in '27 and is something to call out? Or just wanted to dig into that a bit more.

Lee Shavel

Thanks, Manav. I'm going to hand that one to Elizabeth.

Elizabeth Mann

Yes. Thanks for the question, Manav. We just wanted to highlight, we've talked a little bit about the impact of lighter weather on our business. We are large and diversified. And so what for us has been a minor headwind. If you think about the industry environment, the contractor is particularly small businesses are under pressure with that lighter volume, and we have seen one or two bankruptcies in the space. So that is something just that we've been monitoring. It's incorporated in kind of the guidance ranges that we've talked about, but it could be a minor factor as we go into early '27.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.

Toni Kaplan

And thanks for the color on the AI initiatives during the prepared remarks. I know you referenced the longer sales cycle again, but it does sound like you're seeing some adoption in some of the AI areas regardless. And so I was hoping you could maybe talk about what still needs to be ironed out? Is this only with some customers? And when these are resolved, should we think about it as sort of opening the floodgates for new AI sales? Just trying to get a sense of how big of a needle mover this could be for growth next year and how much of sort of impact it's having this year?

Lee Shavel

Yes. Thanks, Toni. So I think what we are seeing and as you picked up from the comments, is that there is broad engagement from our clients across all of the functions that where we're engaged with them from underwriting, claims, cat modeling, distribution. And the way I described it in my remarks is that it's a very deliberate process. And I think it is a little different in the insurance industry relative to the financial markets where they consume a lot of data, there are fewer gateways or hurdles that they typically clear to ingest that data.

And so the dialogue that we're having with clients is understanding it, but even among our most sophisticated clients, they are very engaged. They want to understand it, but they're asking very specific questions, how do we rely on this? Is this something that there is a strong empirical backing for? And what we have seen is as they become more familiar and more comfortable with the data sets and the applications they without question are seeing the benefits, the informational benefits and the efficiency benefits in each of these areas.

The Forms AI Builder is a great example of where they can process forms and make adjustments to forms much more quickly. In our Exact Expert, Exact AI, the claims processing and estimating capabilities are accelerated. In cat modeling, our ability to test those models is improving. And so I think it is very broad-based. There's a high level of engagement on the value of it, but it will proceed in a very measured, but I think broad-based and impactful way over the course of the next 12 to 24 months as the industry becomes more and more familiar with it.

It also is emphasizing the value of our data sets. We referred to the self-insured top five retailer who initially attempted to utilize AI to handle an Anti-Fraud application and they found it simply wasn't nearly as effective as using our data sets. So beyond the adoption of the technology, it's also reinforcing the importance and the value of our broad industry-wide data sets to guide their placement of business, their underwriting of business and their claims processes.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Faiza Alwy with Deutsche Bank.

Faiza Alwy

Elizabeth, I wanted to ask you about transactional revenues because I believe you said that you saw stronger-than-expected transactional revenues that you don't expect to repeat in the fourth quarter. Just was looking for some additional color around that. And I know you talked about softer commercial lines and property. And kind of wanted to understand if that has sort of stabilized? Or do you expect expecting to potentially get even softer than they are?

Elizabeth Mann

Yes. Thanks for the question, Faiza. As you've seen, our subscription growth has been consistent and strong. The transactional revenue in the third quarter at 3% was a bit stronger perhaps than anticipated. Transactional revenues by their nature are harder to predict, of course. And we benefited in the third quarter from additional services businesses, service on our Life Solutions business as well as some overages on data pools in different parts of the business, those overages may may or may not repeat.

I think the overall environment that we see still does have below average weather events on our Claims side and the property markets that still are softer with lower transaction volume. So that environment could persist in the fourth quarter. Again, in the long run, we do expect transactional revenues to be a source of strength.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Curtis Nagle with Bank of America.

Curtis Nagle

Great. Just a quick one on the margins. The flow through looked pretty good in the quarter. I guess how much of that was due to additional leverage just off of that transactional revenue you saw come through? Or were there any shifts in terms of the timing of expenses? And then just maybe the puts and takes of getting to the high end in something, I guess you're going to be in the mid-range for EBITDA, but just wanted to confirm that for the fourth quarter.

Elizabeth Mann

Yes. Thanks, bunch, Curt. Nothing anomalous that we would call out in the quarter. Yes, some flow-through on that transactional revenue. But in general, our margins if you look at, I think, the graph of it say, continue to display the seasonality that we've talked about before with typically stronger margins in the second and third quarter due to revenue mix and then our expenses and investment expenses tend to build over the course of the year. So from a seasonal perspective, the fourth quarter is often a bit lower from a margin standpoint, but all in line with kind of our historical patterns.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Wurtzel with Wolf Research.

Scott Wurtzel

Just wondering if you can talk a little bit more about the puts and takes on the acceleration in Underwriting, OCC revenue growth during the quarter. I'm not sure if any of the transactional-based revenues had kind of the acceleration there. But just wondering if you could talk about sort of the drivers of that growth acceleration from 5.6% to 7.7%?

Elizabeth Mann

Yes. Thanks for the question, Scott. One element of it, to be honest, is the compares for Underwriting. If you look a year ago, the third quarter was significantly softer. I think that's the main thing. One element that we talked -- we did have, from a sequential standpoint, there was the government contract with a work stoppage in the second quarter. And so that resumption of work helped the sequential acceleration. Again, from a year-over-year, it's not a major factor, which is why we didn't call it out before, but sequentially, you're seeing that come on.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Nicholas with William Blair.

Andrew Nicholas

I wanted to ask one on AccuLynx. Recognize there's probably not a whole lot you can say likelihood of closing or the timing. But I was curious if you could speak to what that development does to your near-term capital allocation priorities? And then any detail you could share on how that business has kind of progressed over the past year plus from a size or growth perspective to the extent that you can share it?

Lee Shavel

Thanks, Andrew. Yes, there's not a lot more that we can say beyond what we mentioned in our comments beforehand. But with regard to capital priorities, there is no meaningful change in our capital priorities. We will continue to focus on investing in the business, looking at opportunities that we think could create value for our shareholders, and returning capital to our shareholders. Those remain our primary capital priorities.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ashish Sabadra with RBC Capital Markets.

Unknown Analyst

This is Bill Chi on for Ashish Sabadra. Maybe just wanted to follow up on the growth acceleration in organic I think you guys have called out in press release just some price increases and also strong price realization as well. I guess how should we think about on that current environment? Are you still seeing, I guess, good value, especially with the AI adoption tours?

Lee Shavel

Thanks. Let me start off and Elizabeth may supplement that I think that while we are, as we described, observing that softer insurance market, one of the elements that is important is that our carriers focus on emerging risks is higher than it's been in a while, focusing on AI risks, in particular, but a variety of other risks that they're dealing with. And as a consequence, the appetite for our data sets and tools specific to those risks has been elevated. So for instance, we are providing an AI litigation tracker. We're providing AI exposure mapping.

We have a U.S. data center database, those are examples of where we are seeing strong engagement with our customers in addition to the adoption of the tools that we're describing. So those data sets are important and also our engagement with our clients in emerging issues, conversations where we, with individual carriers, have a discussion on AI, cyber or quantum computing and we'll have 50 or 60 underwriters from that carrier that want to participate in it.

So I would say that despite the soft environment, the counter is that their perception and concerns about risk and the value of our data and our insights has been driving a more pronounced delivery and perception of the value of what we're doing. And this is the classic role that we play, gathering those data sets and sharing perspectives across the industry that I think has served to enhance their perception of the importance and the value of what we're doing, and that's translating into both the adoption of those specific data sets contributions of more data, both in terms of the digital media forensics where we referred to the database is now 800 million images up from 600 million, increasing contributions of excess and surplus data sets on $36 billion in premium versus $18 billion. And that overall is and we believe will continue to support the growth expectations that we have.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Surinder Thind with Jefferies.

Surinder Thind

Lee, could you maybe provide a bit more color on the client that tried to in-house some functionality? Maybe what was that functionality? Why did they maybe think they could succeed? And then maybe why were they not successful? And then ultimately, like how prevalent is that mindset at this point?

Lee Shavel

Sure, Surinder. I'll start off. So this is a large client. And I think you -- it's probably typical of a lot of our clients who are interested in understanding how to apply AI to a variety of applications. In this case, it was in evaluating the risk of fraud within their business. And so on the basis of applying the technology to internal data sets, they found that the lift or the outcomes that they were receiving was not as good and as impactful as it was with the broad industry data sets that we're able to provide to them.

And they then came back to us and entered into a significant multiyear contract because those data sets are critical. And I think we see that in a variety of instances. There's a natural tendency to understand what AI can do, but a lot of our clients are coming back and saying, your data is critical to realizing a return because it gets broader, it is better integrated, we can provide an oncology, a semantic layer for how those data sets relate that we are doing through our MCPs and through other calibration techniques to enable AI to utilize that data much more efficiently.

And if it works on a single client data set than it works for all of them. That's the value of the breadth of the industry data and the quality and the organization, the calibration of those data sets on a consistent basis.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan.

Andrew Steinerman

It's Andrew. Your team spoke about continued longer sales cycle today. I know that's kind of a continuation I was wondering if that dynamic is due to insurers trying to figure out the AI usage to governance rights around the contracted Teradata they need. And if that's the case, once that sales or renewal happens, would it be with a larger spend a larger bundle with Verisk, so putting that together, is it this dynamic kind of a nice setup for a favorable 2027 organic revenue growth momentum as you work through this current sales pipeline?

Lee Shavel

Andrew, thanks. I think there's a lot of truth in what you're describing. I would say generally that with AI, the demand for data is broader and deeper than it has in one way to describe it is that historically or traditionally we're delivering data sets to an underwriter or a claims professional and they're focused on a specific function. The ability to integrate those data sets is now accelerated and enhanced by applying AI to it enabling a broader integration for that particular function.

There is certainly an element of understanding what that means for the individual. And the human continues to be at the center of the -- in the loop on those functions but the carriers want to understand if we are integrating those data sets what the impact is? Are they comfortable that they can explain to a regulator how this is being used the reliability of that outcome, there are elements in terms of their contributory data and how that is used and integrated into the process. But I think this is a learning experience and a deliberate testing experience that I do think will open up the doors for a broader use of our data sets.

We've always said that our most sophisticated clients use a broader set of our data than the less sophisticated clients. AI is effectively increasing the data sophistication of all of our clients, but that has to go through a very careful calibration as the industry is adjusting to these data sets. The underlying premise of your question, I think, is absolutely true.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Motemaden with Evercore ISI.

David Motemaden

Lee, you spoke about increased growth in the license of AI-related solutions across the business lines. I'm just wondering if you could just highlight where that's most pronounced in terms of product? And if it is more of the larger insurers as opposed to the smaller insurers, like maybe a split between your top 25 and others.

And then relatedly, Elizabeth, I think you had called out that some of the transactional growth outperformance was due to data overages. I'm assuming that that's not driven by any AI-related data overages that might persist, but maybe you could just give some color there.

Lee Shavel

Sure. David, let me start off with the first part of your question. In terms of the growth in the AI licenses, and I want to emphasize that, that's just one dimension of the growth or the revenue opportunity that we have. The other dimension is as we've integrated this, the value of the data sets and our ability to capture that value through pricing is another dimension.

But going specifically to your question, I would say that where we are seeing currently the strongest growth in the AI licenses is in some of the midsized players that have more scope, I think, to move more quickly, for instance, on the claims side, on the contractor front, we're seeing the strong growth from a license perspective but we are also seeing a high level of engagement from carriers, larger carriers that are using their products and we're engaged in broader enterprise licensing agreements that take a little bit longer to make certain events when they're rolling that out across an enterprise of thousands of claims professionals that they understand how it works.

So currently, some of those smaller, more nimble players are able to adopt those, that's what's driving it. But we anticipate that, that will broaden and strengthen as we bring in larger scale carriers. And I think there is a dimension of that on the underwriting side as well, where we have some early adopters that tend to be smaller, but our largest carriers are very engaged, and we're working that through in this deliberate process that we're exploring. And that's something that we think will bear out over the next 12 to 24 months.

Elizabeth Mann

And then, David, just to close the loop on the transactional piece and the data overages, that was not specifically AI related. That is just a contract structure related number of data pulls versus somebody's contract structure?

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Haas with Wells Fargo.

Jason Haas

Outside of the onetime transactional revenue that you're not expecting to repeat. Is there anything else you're seeing in the business today that causes you to think that organic growth could slow in 4Q?

Elizabeth Mann

Thanks, Jason. Nothing to -- It would really be particularly on the transactional side, the things we've called out before, volume of weather-related activity at this point in the in the season, it's unlikely to have a major catalyst on that side. And then again, the property softer market and just a number of transactions taking place there.

Lee Shavel

Yes. The fundamental drivers of our organic growth remain very much in place.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Mueller with Baird.

Jeffrey Meuler

I was hoping you could give some more detail on the early signs of the AI productivity gains. I think you characterized it as, just -- how big of an opportunity are you viewing it as what are the big expense buckets for you where you see opportunity? And then just how you think about if those savings continue to build continuing to maybe reinvest them versus flowing through some of those savings as incremental margin expansion?

Elizabeth Mann

Yes. Thanks for the question, Jeff. Yes, as we highlighted, some good AI productivity gains, we had an example in the life business and the 30% productivity there, but we're seeing it kind of across a number of different places in our portfolio. So we do see opportunity for efficiency and cost savings going forward. I think as we balance those opportunities for cost savings against the opportunities that we have talked about on the product side.

And I think we will choose to reinvest some of that opportunity while continuing to deliver overall efficiency. So it will be a combination of operating leverage and investment to be consistent with our Investor Day targets of 25 to 75 basis points of margin expansion.

Lee Shavel

And Jeff, I appreciate the question was focused on the internal efficiencies. And I think we are seeing those. We're experiencing them in a variety of areas. We expect those to continue to develop. In particular, I think we've talked about the use of AI to improve data ingestion and calibration within our systems. We talked about that in E&S, but I think that's generally true across our businesses.

But the thing I want to broaden out is, I think the efficiencies that we see from an industry perspective and our ability to deliver those by applying our data sets particularly against agentic applications is a significant opportunity for us to deliver value to the industry. And that is something that's in process. I just got back from the Singapore International Reinsurance Conference.

And one of those applications for AI and our ability to improve transactional efficiency is through our white space platform. We just have brought on two very significant brokers in addition to our existing brokers in the Asia Pacific marketplace, that are going to be utilizing the platform within Singapore for that business that builds on our success within London and enables us to deliver greater efficiency in distribution. And in conversations with both carriers and brokers in that marketplace, the enthusiasm for the ability to take a historically very process-oriented data entry process and automate that and also connect it on a global basis is a tremendous, tremendous benefit that is driving continued adoption.

So I think that's just one example of where those efficiencies as we're able to deliver that data more efficiently and against an genic applications in underwriting and claims and distribution that we're excited about what we can accomplish.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs.

Keen Fai Tong

You mentioned growing usage through the Claude MCP connector and expanded distribution through Microsoft and Amazon, is that access included in existing subscriptions or separately licensed or priced based on consumption and agent-based usage become an incremental revenue stream?

Elizabeth Mann

Yes, George, thanks for the question. For the time being, that is included in our existing, primarily our core line contract, where the data is coming from. It is and will continue to be a driver of the strong price realization in those contracts. So you're seeing the benefit in that way. We've reserved the right in the future as we understand the usage and as carriers start to pick up to charge separately for it. But at the moment, it's monetized through price increase.

Lee Shavel

And that's one specific example of that. We do have other areas in Claims and in Underwriting where we have explicit licenses for the data sets. And that's generally the direction that we have been moving as our clients become more familiar with the value that they can achieve through that access. But I also would say that two MCPs that we had released with Anthropic, if those were the starting point we expect to be able to provide MCPs for other applications and other data sets that will continue to expand our ability to deliver that deliver data through that channel.

Operator

Your last question comes from the line of Henry Hayden with Red firm.

Henry Hayden

I wanted to follow up on the price realization that you've been calling out for a few quarters now. If you could give us any incremental color around the drivers of that given it seems to largely be the discretionary component of your pricing, how we should think about the potential interplay of that with longer sales cycles? So when those deals do come through, should we expect them to be particularly strong. And then if I could just squeeze in a follow-up on that. How should we think about the penetration of those renewals within the client base just as we keep an eye to the sustainability of those increases complementing growth?

Lee Shavel

Yes. Thanks, Henry. This is the one and I'm going to turn to my colleagues are because I think when we think about the pricing and renewals, and where we have had the strongest dialogue, it has been around the core lines reimagine that we've talked about in terms of how we've delivered additional value on how our clients are perceiving and how that's played out from a renewal standpoint. So I'm sorry, maybe you can provide some perspective there.

Saurabh Khemka

Yes, absolutely. So As we mentioned, the realization has come from us delivering superior value to our customers, and we've done that through coal lines for Imagine -- we've talked about the new customer modules. We're on track to deliver 25 new modules this year. And as the initial phase of that program is coming to an end, we are actually finding new opportunities to continue innovating and provide more value. So whether it's incorporating AI into our new platform or the workshops that Lee talked about are leading on the regulatory front and the E&S data. We continue to see a lot of room for us to provide value and as we provide value, gain that realization from our customers.

Lee Shavel

And one thing I'd add, and I've heard directly from a number of CEOs where I've had conversations about that process. And we've consistently gotten the feedback that the transparency and the clarity of our pricing and where we are looking for increases have been very value oriented. And that has been a real improvement that we've been able to make over the past three to four years, making certain that they understand where we've invested, how their teams are utilizing the data and where we're adding value, which I think just facilitates our ability to have broader conversations, particularly in this environment, in what we are doing and how it applies in this environment.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.