Conferencia de resultados del 1T fiscal de 2027 de ScanSource (SCSC): las ventas aumentan un 30%, se elevan las previsiones
ScanSource reportó un sólido primer trimestre fiscal de 2027, con un incremento interanual del 30% en ventas netas y del 9% en beneficio neto reportado. El beneficio neto non-GAAP se situó en 17,7 millones de dólares. El crecimiento estuvo impulsado por Norteamérica, aunque la rentabilidad se vio afectada por grandes transacciones de hardware con menor margen y provisiones por insolvencias en Brasil. La compañía elevó sus previsiones para el ejercicio fiscal 2027 tras la adquisición de MicroAge, estimando ventas netas de entre 3.800 y 4.000 millones de dólares y un EBITDA ajustado de entre 175 y 185 millones de dólares.
ScanSource (NASDAQ: SCSC) registró una sólida demanda en el primer trimestre fiscal de 2027, impulsada por grandes transacciones de hardware y un crecimiento generalizado en Norteamérica. La combinación de acuerdos y las provisiones por insolvencias asociadas a clientes específicos en Brasil presionaron la rentabilidad, si bien la dirección indicó que estos factores se limitaron en gran medida al primer trimestre.
Puntos clave
- Las ventas netas aumentaron un 30% interanual, mientras que el beneficio neto reportado creció un 9%. El beneficio neto non-GAAP se situó en 17,7 millones de dólares, o 0,86 dólares por acción.
- Las ventas netas de Specialty Technology Solutions aumentaron un 28%, pero el beneficio bruto creció solo un 3%, hasta los 87 millones de dólares, debido a una mayor proporción de grandes acuerdos de hardware con márgenes más bajos.
- La dirección estimó que los grandes acuerdos redujeron el margen trimestral en aproximadamente 110 a 120 puntos básicos. Asimismo, prevé que la combinación de ventas regrese a un equilibrio más habitual a lo largo de todo el ejercicio.
- El flujo de caja libre del primer trimestre fue negativo en 44 millones de dólares, ya que el fuerte crecimiento de los ingresos incrementó las necesidades de capital de trabajo. La compañía reafirmó su previsión de generar al menos 85 millones de dólares de flujo de caja libre en el ejercicio fiscal 2027.
- ScanSource elevó sus perspectivas para el ejercicio fiscal 2027, incluyendo a MicroAge, a unas ventas netas de entre 3.800 y 4.000 millones de dólares y un EBITDA ajustado de entre 175 y 185 millones de dólares.
- MicroAge amplía la exposición de ScanSource a las tecnologías de la nube, ciberseguridad, centros de datos e IA. La empresa está probando un modelo de venta conjunta con sus socios del canal especializado durante el trimestre en curso.
Datos financieros clave
| Métrica | Resultado del 1T fiscal de 2027 | Variación interanual / contexto |
|---|---|---|
| Ventas netas | — | Aumento del 30% |
| Beneficio neto reportado | — | Aumento del 9% |
| SG&A non-GAAP | 92 millones de dólares | 9,6% de las ventas netas, frente a los 75 millones de dólares y el 10,1% de un año antes |
| Beneficio neto non-GAAP | 17,7 millones de dólares | — |
| BPA non-GAAP | 0,86 dólares | — |
| Flujo de caja libre | Negativo en 44 millones de dólares | Reflejó principalmente mayores saldos de capital de trabajo |
| Efectivo al cierre del trimestre | 46 millones de dólares | — |
| Ratio de apalancamiento de la deuda neta | Aproximadamente 2x | EBITDA ajustado de los últimos 12 meses |
| Recompras de acciones | 5 millones de dólares | Quedaban autorizados 116 millones de dólares al 30 de septiembre de 2026 |
| ROIC ajustado | 10,7% | — |
Rendimiento operativo y del negocio
Specialty Technology Solutions
Las ventas netas de Specialty Technology Solutions aumentaron un 28% interanual, impulsadas por el crecimiento del hardware en Norteamérica en la mayoría de las tecnologías. La dirección destacó la seguridad, las redes de Cisco, los códigos de barras y movilidad, y el hardware de comunicaciones como áreas de crecimiento.
El beneficio bruto del segmento aumentó un 3%, hasta los 87 millones de dólares. El EBITDA ajustado fue de 20 millones de dólares, con un margen de EBITDA ajustado del 2,18%. La dirección atribuyó la diferencia entre el crecimiento de las ventas y el del beneficio bruto principalmente a los grandes acuerdos de hardware con márgenes más bajos.
Los ingresos recurrentes aumentaron un 16,8%. El beneficio bruto derivado de ingresos recurrentes representó el 14,3% del beneficio bruto del segmento, lo que supone un incremento de 88 puntos básicos respecto al año anterior.
Brasil representó aproximadamente el 5% de las ventas netas del segmento. Las ventas en el país cayeron más del 20% en moneda constante, mientras que los problemas crediticios específicos de ciertos clientes incrementaron los gastos por insolvencias.
Intelisys y MicroAge
La facturación neta trimestral de Intelisys aumentó un 3,8% interanual, lo que situó la facturación neta anualizada en aproximadamente 2.900 millones de dólares. Las ventas netas reportadas del segmento aumentaron un 86%, incluyendo a MicroAge, y crecieron un 3,2% en términos orgánicos.
El beneficio bruto reportado aumentó un 29%, hasta alcanzar los 30 millones de dólares. El EBITDA ajustado fue de 11,3 millones de dólares, lo que representó un margen del 25,1%.
ScanSource completó la adquisición de MicroAge el 1 de septiembre. La dirección señaló que la operación amplía su cartera tecnológica y su alcance en el canal en la nube, ciberseguridad, centros de datos e IA. La prioridad a corto plazo consiste en probar la venta conjunta de servicios gestionados y soluciones de IA de MicroAge con los socios de canal de ScanSource, para posteriormente desarrollar un catálogo de servicios reproducible y escalable.
Previsiones de la dirección
ScanSource elevó sus previsiones para el ejercicio fiscal 2027 con el fin de incluir a MicroAge y reflejar unas ventas más sólidas en el primer trimestre:
| Métrica para el ejercicio fiscal 2027 | Previsiones de la dirección |
|---|---|
| Ventas netas reportadas | Entre 3.800 y 4.000 millones de dólares |
| EBITDA ajustado | Entre 175 y 185 millones de dólares |
| Flujo de caja libre | Al menos 85 millones de dólares |
| Gastos por intereses | Entre 18 y 20 millones de dólares |
| Tasa impositiva efectiva | Del 27,5% al 28,5% |
La dirección manifestó que sigue confiando en sus expectativas iniciales del segundo al cuarto trimestre, y considera que las presiones sobre los márgenes y los gastos de SG&A registradas en el primer trimestre quedaron contenidas en gran medida en dicho periodo. La compañía planea dar prioridad a la reducción del apalancamiento, sin dejar de recomprar acciones y respaldar la demanda.
Riesgos y aspectos a vigilar
- Combinación de operaciones de hardware: Las transacciones de hardware de gran envergadura y menor margen supusieron una compresión estimada de entre 110 y 120 puntos básicos del margen trimestral. La dirección prevé una combinación más normalizada a lo largo de todo el ejercicio, pero el calendario y la composición de los acuerdos siguen siendo factores importantes.
- Exposición crediticia en Brasil: ScanSource registró una provisión significativa vinculada a Oi S.A., declarada en quiebra el 25 de agosto. La dirección indicó que prácticamente la totalidad de la exposición a dicho cliente ya está provisionada y que Oi representaba su mayor concentración de clientes en Brasil.
- Capital de trabajo: El sólido crecimiento de los ingresos incrementó las cuentas a cobrar y contribuyó a la utilización de 44 millones de dólares de flujo de caja libre en el primer trimestre. Una rotación de inventarios más ágil compensó parcialmente dicho impacto.
- Integración de MicroAge: Las perspectivas para el ejercicio fiscal 2027 incluyen 10 meses de contribución de MicroAge. La compañía sigue probando cómo escalar la venta conjunta de sus servicios y capacidades de IA en toda la base de socios de ScanSource.
- Plazos relativos a Juniper: La dirección aún espera que los ingresos procedentes de Juniper comiencen a contribuir en el segundo semestre fiscal, si bien la implementación se ha retrasado respecto a las expectativas iniciales. En la actualidad, no prevé que las restricciones de suministro ejerzan una presión significativa sobre las previsiones anuales.
Puntos destacados de la sesión de preguntas y respuestas con analistas
La dirección indicó que el volumen inusualmente elevado de grandes contratos en el primer trimestre obedeció a factores temporales: se entregaron transacciones postergadas o divididas en periodos anteriores, mientras que otras operaciones se concertaron y enviaron dentro del propio trimestre. La empresa no halló indicios de que la demanda se hubiera adelantado o retrasado.
La política de precios también aportó una parte sustancial al aumento del 30% en las ventas, aunque la dirección no pudo aislar el impacto preciso debido a que más del 80% de las transacciones utiliza acuerdos de precios especiales.
En lo que respecta a Intelisys, la dirección subrayó el desfase entre la inversión y la materialización de los ingresos. Las transacciones más pequeñas pueden tardar entre seis y nueve meses en generar flujos de comisiones, mientras que las operaciones más grandes pueden requerir de 12 a 18 meses. La compañía está reasignando inversiones hacia la captación de socios y la generación de nuevos pedidos.
Al ser consultado sobre la contribución de MicroAge al EBITDA del ejercicio fiscal 2027, el director financiero Stephen Jones comentó que la estimación de los analistas de aproximadamente 20 millones de dólares era acertada, al tiempo que apuntó que las previsiones abarcan solo 10 meses y que la dirección vislumbra oportunidades adicionales de crecimiento a largo plazo.
La dirección también considera que la adquisición de BlueStar por parte de TD SYNNEX representa una posible oportunidad para ganar cuota de mercado en medio de las alteraciones en el canal de distribución.
Transcripción completa de la conferencia sobre resultados
Transcripción completa de la conferencia de resultados
Comentarios de la dirección
Operator
Welcome to the ScanSource Quarterly Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded. If anyone has any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mary Gentry, Senior Vice President, Finance and Treasurer. Please go ahead.
Mary Gentry
Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Our call will include prepared remarks from Mike Baur, our Chair and CEO; and Steve Jones, our Chief Financial Officer. We'll review our operating results for the quarter and then open the line for your questions.
We posted an earnings infographic that accompanies our comments and webcast in the Investor Relations section of our website. As you know, certain statements in our press release, infographic and on this call are forward-looking and subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. These risks and uncertainties include the factors identified in our earnings release and our Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2026, and in our subsequent report on Form 10-Q.
Forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today, and ScanSource disclaims any duty to update these statements, except as required by law. During our call, we'll discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP results. We've provided reconciliations on our website and in the press release included in our Form 8-K filed earlier today. I'll now turn the call over to Mike.
Mike Baur
Thanks, Mary, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. Demand was strong this quarter, led by large deals and market share gains. Our team delivered broad-based growth in North America, and both segments grew net sales and gross profit. While profitability was impacted by a higher mix of lower-margin large hardware deals as well as customer-specific bad debt reserves in Brazil, we view these factors as largely confined to Q1 and not reflective of the underlying profitability of our business. We are raising our FY '27 net sales and adjusted EBITDA ranges, which now include MicroAge. We remain confident in our strategy, and we are making progress on our 3-year strategic goals.
For our Intelisys business, accelerating new order growth is the key to taking market share. We are reallocating Intelisys investments toward the activities that drive new orders, including a targeted effort to recruit and onboard new partners this fiscal year. And our new converged business unit is helping channel partners sell more communications hardware and more cloud recurring revenue. In September, we closed the MicroAge acquisition, extending our reach in high-growth technologies like cloud, cybersecurity, data center and AI. MicroAge brings solution provider relationships with top suppliers, including CrowdStrike, Dell, HPE, Microsoft, NetApp, Sophos and VMware.
Our near-term priority is to bring MicroAge managed services and AI solutions to market by co-selling with ScanSource specialty channel partners. This quarter, we are launching a pilot to test the go-to-market model. Based on what we learned, we intend to finalize a services catalog of offerings that are repeatable and scalable.
Looking ahead, we are confident in our direction. Our team is executing our strategy. With our initiatives to accelerate growth and gain market share, we believe we are well positioned for the remainder of the fiscal year. I'll now turn the call over to Steve to take you through our financial results and outlook for fiscal year 2027.
Stephen Jones
Thanks, Mike. Our first quarter results reflect strong broad-based demand in North America. While that demand drove significant revenue growth, profitability was impacted by a mix of large hardware deals that carry lower margins, along with customer-specific bad debt reserves in Brazil. Despite these factors in our Q1 results, we are confident in our organic business, and we're raising our full year outlook, including the contribution of MicroAge. Net sales grew 30% year-over-year with reported net profits growing 9% year-over-year. Non-GAAP SG&A expense in the quarter, including acquisitions, totaled $92 million or 9.6% of net sales compared to our prior year at $75 million or 10.1% of net sales. Non-GAAP net income was $17.7 million and non-GAAP EPS was $0.86 per share.
Free cash flow was a use of $44 million in Q1, primarily reflecting the higher working capital balances associated with strong revenue growth. We expect positive free cash flow generation for our full fiscal year. We continue to believe the margin dynamics experienced in the first quarter were primarily driven by sales mix and specific bad debt reserves and do not reflect a change in the underlying earnings power of our business.
Turning to our segments. I'll start with Specialty Technology Solutions. Net sales for the quarter increased 28% year-over-year, led by North America hardware sales growth across most of our technologies. Gross profit increased 3% year-over-year to $87 million. The difference in growth rate between revenue and gross profit is mainly due to mix. This quarter, we saw a significant increase in large hardware deals, which come at a lower gross profit margin. Included in this segment is our operations in Brazil, which represents about 5% of this quarter's segment net sales. In Brazil, net sales declined more than 20% on a constant currency basis. And for the quarter, we had higher bad debt expense primarily related to customer-specific credit issues in Brazil.
STS segment adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $20 million and our adjusted EBITDA margin was 2.18%. In Q1, recurring revenue in the segment grew 16.8% year-over-year and gross profits from recurring revenues represent 14.3% of segment gross profits, an increase of 88 basis points from last year. Our Intelisys & Solutions Services segment was renamed to now include our acquisition of MicroAge that we closed on September 1. MicroAge contributes hardware, software and services revenue to the segment. Quarterly net billings for Intelisys increased 3.8% year-over-year over the prior year's quarter to bring annualized net billings to approximately $2.9 billion. Q1 reported net sales increased 86% year-over-year or 3.2% on an organic basis. Reported gross profits increased 29% year-over-year to $30 million. Adjusted EBITDA for the segment was $11.3 million with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 25.1%.
Going a bit deeper on our balance sheet and cash flow. We ended Q4 -- or Q1 with $46 million in cash and a net debt leverage ratio of approximately 2x trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. Share repurchases totaled $5 million for the quarter. As of September 30, 2026, we had approximately $116 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization. Adjusted ROIC for the quarter was 10.7%. Our leverage ratio and our continued share repurchases reflect our disciplined approach to both working capital and capital allocation priorities. Our acquisition of MicroAge is an exciting opportunity to accelerate our 3-year goals. It expands our total addressable market, technology stack, capabilities and channel reach with accretive margins and positive free cash flow generation. It also aligns with our capital allocation priorities.
Our capital allocation priorities remain the same: maintain a strong balance sheet with leverage of 1 to 2x adjusted EBITDA and be disciplined in the capital deployment, including strategic acquisition and share repurchases. In the near term, we will focus on reducing our leverage and plan to continue share repurchases. Our outlook for free cash flow reflects our belief that we will generate positive free cash flow in our fiscal year and be able to do both debt reduction and repurchases while also supporting continued strong demand. Our working capital metrics reflect the operational improvements from our cash culture focus. Faster inventory turns are helping offset higher accounts receivable balances as we respond to robust demand from our customers and their end users.
While first quarter profitability was impacted by mix and customer-specific reserve adjustments, the strength of demand and contributions from MicroAge support our confidence in the remainder of the year. As a result, we are updating our annual outlook. Including the contributions of MicroAge, we believe that reported net sales will range from $3.8 billion to $4 billion. We expect adjusted EBITDA between $175 million and $185 million. And for free cash flow, we are reaffirming our expectations that we will generate at least $85 million in free cash flow.
To help with analyst models for FY '27, we expect interest expense to range from $18 million to $20 million and our effective tax rate to range from 27.5% to 28.5%. We'll now open it up for questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question will be coming from the line of Greg Burns of Sidoti.
Preguntas y respuestas
Gregory Burns
Can you maybe give us a little bit more color on the strong hardware demand you saw this quarter -- which technology segments were showing the most growth and the mix you saw with the large enterprise deals this quarter? Do you expect that to continue for the rest of the year given the pipeline that you have?
Stephen Jones
Greg, this is Steve. As far as the technology growth for Q1, we continue to see strong security growth as we've seen over the last year or so. We also saw Cisco grow year-over-year in networking, barcode and mobility. And this time for the quarter, we also saw growth in our communications hardware groups.
So, I would say when we say broad-based this quarter, we really mean broad-based, especially in North America. When you ask about the mix of business and how much of our business do we think going forward are large deals. This was a unique quarter for us. We've been talking about large deals that have been pushed or also split up for a while now. And in Q1, what we saw was a lot of those deals delivered, and we also saw deals get booked and shipped in the quarter. So we think a lot of this is timing. We think we're going to modulate back to a better mix of large and run rate deals as we look at the full year.
Gregory Burns
Okay. And the bad debt in Brazil, do you have any other risks around that going forward? Or is that -- do you see that as like more of a one-off for the first quarter?
Stephen Jones
Yes. Let me add a little color to that. So in Brazil, we took a significant reserve for a company called Oi S.A., which was -- which was a Brazilian telecommunications giant, once the largest fixed-line operator in South America and a long-time customer of our Brazil business. With our Q1 expense reserve that we took, basically all of our exposure to this customer is now reserved, and we'll work through the final judicial proceedings like many other creditors for this particular customer that was declared bankrupt on August 25. As far as other exposures, this was the largest concentration of any customer we had in Brazil.
Operator
And our next question will be coming from the line of Keith Housum of Northcoast Research.
Keith Housum
I was a little confused on the performance in the quarter. Understanding that the mix was weighted towards some large deals, but were the large deals done at the expense of some of the small deals? Because if I look at the history, even going back to a year, 1.5 years ago, substantially less -- less revenue, and you still did just about the same in gross profit. So I'm just really kind of confused on the mix here and if SMB suffered because of that.
Stephen Jones
Well, Keith, this is Steve again. Thanks for the question. I would say that it was just an unusual timing for the quarter. Again, I think when I try to peel back the impact in the quarter, I would say that probably 110 to 120 basis points of our margin decline or compression in the quarter was really related to these large deals that were both carried forward from last year and booked in this quarter.
Keith Housum
Okay. It's still just -- it feels like the SMB hasn't done nearly as well compared to the large deals.
Stephen Jones
Well, we certainly wouldn't have had as much top line growth, and we would modulate back towards our normal -- our margin profile.
Keith Housum
Okay, okay. In terms of your full year outlook, is the increase in both the revenue and adjusted EBITDA, is that all attributable to or majority attributable to the MicroAge acquisition?
Stephen Jones
From a guide, what I would say, Keith, is that we have confidence in our Q2 through Q4 original guidance that we gave. We believe that the Q1 profit pressures related to the mix and the SG&A are pretty well contained in the quarter. The balance of it would be related to the positive contributions from MicroAge. I would say on the top line, we were surprised. We didn't expect a 30% year-over-year growth in Q1. So that's definitely helping push that top line up for the full year.
Keith Housum
Okay. So if I said MicroAge will contribute about $20 million in EBITDA for the year, is that in the right ballpark?
Stephen Jones
I would say that that's close. What I would say is we have bigger expectations for MicroAge. Remember, we're only talking about 10 months of this, and we're early days in what we can do to accelerate growth in our core business with what Mike talked about in these tests that we're doing.
Keith Housum
Got you. Got you. And then during the quarter, obviously, your largest -- your [indiscernible] is probably your most significant competitor in the AIDC space and POS space. Of course, I'm referring to BlueStar was bought by TD SYNNEX. Any thoughts on how that might change the competitive dynamics going forward for you guys?
Mike Baur
Keith, it's Mike. We've seen, over the years, consolidation happen in distribution. And typically, early on, there's a lot of disruption, some turmoil. We believe there'll be some market share gains. Over the years, whenever one of the broadline lower-value distributors got into any part of our business, typically, over time, it appeared that those companies still maintain similar value proposition. So that will be what we're looking for: Is there anything that's going to be expected differently from us by the suppliers based on this acquisition?
Typically, we watch that really close. We make sure the key suppliers know, well, if they're going to operate differently, meaning if BlueStar was to be operating differently going forward, we would want to be very aware of: Is that in the suppliers' best interest? So for us, we do believe there's a market share opportunity here.
Keith Housum
Great. Great. And I guess last question for me. I know it's sometimes tough to tell who your end customers are, but obviously, networking is an area you've had a lot of success lately in. Networking is in front of the AI infrastructure build-out there now. Any way to tell some of your business here is being driven by the AI infrastructure that's going into place?
Mike Baur
Keith, in our MicroAge business, for sure. We definitely -- as we did our due diligence, we looked at that very carefully. We're wanting to understand how they were performing so well, frankly, in the market with their data center products and services. And that is one reason that they became a very attractive acquisition for us because it expands our TAM.
In our core business, what we think is many of our traditional partners, whether they were our mobility partners, security partners, communication partners, many of them are looking to add some AI capabilities and more products. And so we believe that's the idea behind our MicroAge pilots. We want to co-sell with our channel partners to get them into the AI side of the business that many of them are not prepared for, including some of our larger mobility partners. We've talked to them about, "Would you like us to co-sell with you with our expertise for MicroAge?" And they've said, "Yes." So we're testing that this quarter.
Operator
And our next question will be coming from the line of Logan Katzman of Raymond James.
Logan Katzman
This is Logan on for Adam. I guess, first, I think last quarter, you mentioned supply constraints were limiting some of Juniper's contribution in 1H '27. I guess, first, did you see that come into fruition? And then I think you said the expectation was that to become fully operational in fiscal 2H. So have you seen that come to fruition, or have expectations changed around that?
Mike Baur
Yes. I think the Juniper -- this is Mike, Logan. Thanks. The Juniper plans are still similar in that we're still working with them to try to establish a pipeline. But yes, there's some delays from where we originally thought, let's say, 9 months ago. But what we said last quarter is true that we expect that we'll start to see Juniper revenue in the second half.
Stephen Jones
And this is Steve. I'll just talk about our expectations on supply chain constraints and how we're thinking about that in our outlook. We still believe that, that's manageable, and we wouldn't expect a significant impact that would put pressure or anything on our current outlook.
Logan Katzman
Awesome. I appreciate that. And then, I mean, growth here was really, really strong, obviously. I think organic revenue accelerated 27% year-over-year. How much of this was pricing versus units? And then did you guys see any pull forward in demand? And I guess on the pricing, how sustainable, if you saw that, how sustainable is that?
Stephen Jones
Well, Logan, this is Steve again. So let me talk about the pricing impacts on our growth rate. So we know it had an impact and a fair amount. For us, it's really difficult to isolate how much is pricing because more than 80% of our deals are going out on a special pricing arrangement. And so how much of the street price actually gets through is kind of hard to isolate. But we know it was a fair amount of our 30% growth. And what was your second question?
Logan Katzman
Yes. My second question was, do you guys see any, like, pull-in demand, push out and any of those dynamics in the quarter?
Stephen Jones
From what we see and what we believe, it's not apparent that we saw any pull-in or push out. I would say, given the results that we had, we feel like everything that got -- that was needed was booked and shipped in the quarter from our customers.
Logan Katzman
Understood. And I guess last one for me. I think organic Intelisys System Solutions services revenue grew about 3% year-over-year. I know you guys have been making a lot of investments into this business over the last few quarters to accelerate growth. I was just kind of curious, like, expectations around timing on when you guys think those investments will come to fruition and how you're thinking about the trajectory of that business?
Stephen Jones
Well, this is Steve again. Let me maybe talk about how that business operates. So it is a fairly long cycle from when we make an investment to when the revenues come in for us. So if you think about what happens, we make the investment, we recruit new partners, we look at new orders. Those orders get placed, then the rollouts have to happen and the commission streams have to happen. If it's a small deal, that can be 6 to 9 months. If it's a larger deal, that can be 12 to 18 months. And so it is an invest-ahead business. We've talked about this for a long time that this is an invest-ahead business. We're seeing momentum in orders. And so we're seeing the fruits of that -- those investments as we go along. We definitely want to accelerate that growth because as Mike talked about in his prepared remarks, we think that is key to growing that business is getting that -- getting those new order growth and more of that market share.
Operator
And I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back to Steve Jones for closing remarks.
Stephen Jones
Thank you for joining us today. We expect to hold our next conference call to discuss our December 31 quarterly results on Thursday, February 4, at approximately 10:30 a.m. Eastern Time.
Operator
And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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