Conferencia de resultados del 3T de 2026 de FS KKR Capital (FSK): NII de 0,46 $, recompras y distribuciones del 4T

FS KKR Capital Corp. (NYSE: FSK) reportó en el tercer trimestre de 2026 unos ingresos netos de inversión de 0,46 dólares por acción y un valor liquidativo de 18,28 dólares por acción. La dirección destacó la recompra de acciones, la gestión del apalancamiento y la rotación de la cartera, al tiempo que continuó haciendo frente a las inversiones en dificultades.

Puntos clave

• Tanto los ingresos netos de inversión GAAP como los ajustados del tercer trimestre de 2026 se situaron en 0,46 dólares por acción. Los resultados incluyeron un beneficio de 0,08 dólares por acción derivado de un dividendo no recurrente de Belk.
• El valor liquidativo fue de 18,28 dólares por acción al 30 de septiembre, frente a los 18,30 dólares registrados al cierre del segundo trimestre. Las recompras de acciones sumaron 0,16 dólares por acción al NAV.
• FSK declaró una distribución ordinaria para el cuarto trimestre de 0,44 dólares por acción y una distribución extraordinaria de 0,20 dólares por acción, ambas pagaderas en diciembre de 2026.
• La compañía recompró 69 millones de dólares en acciones durante el tercer trimestre a un precio medio de 11,24 dólares. Las recompras acumuladas alcanzaron los 90 millones de dólares hasta el 30 de octubre, lo que equivale al 30% de la autorización de 300 millones de dólares.
• Las inversiones en no devengo disminuyeron al 6,4% de la cartera a coste y al 3,4% a valor razonable, aunque 3Pillar Global y New Era Technology pasaron recientemente a estado de no devengo.
• Para el cuarto trimestre de 2026, la dirección prevé que los ingresos netos de inversión GAAP por acción representen entre un 8% y un 9% anualizado del NAV.

Datos financieros clave

El NAV se vio respaldado por 0,46 dólares por acción de ingresos netos de inversión GAAP y 0,16 dólares derivados del efecto positivo de las recompras. Estos beneficios se vieron contrarrestados por una caída de 0,19 dólares en el valor de la cartera, una distribución sobre acciones ordinarias de 0,44 dólares y una distribución sobre acciones preferentes de 0,01 dólares sobre una base equivalente de acciones ordinarias.

Evolución operativa y del negocio

FSK originó aproximadamente 335 millones de dólares en nuevas inversiones durante el tercer trimestre. Las ventas y amortizaciones totalizaron 442 millones de dólares, lo que supuso una reducción neta de la cartera de 107 millones de dólares. La dirección afirmó que la compañía sigue más centrada en completar su programa de recompra y gestionar el apalancamiento que en el despliegue neto de capital a corto plazo.

El EBITDA medio ponderado de la cartera fue de 235 millones de dólares, mientras que la mediana del EBITDA se situó en 131 millones de dólares. Las empresas en cartera en las que FSK ha invertido desde abril de 2018 registraron un crecimiento interanual del EBITDA medio ponderado de aproximadamente el 4%. La mediana de la cobertura de intereses fue de 2,0 veces.

Los préstamos de primer gravamen representaron el 59% de la cartera reportada directamente, mientras que la deuda sénior garantizada supuso el 63%. Al incluir las inversiones subyacentes en la empresa conjunta de FSK, estas proporciones se incrementaron hasta aproximadamente el 69% y el 73%, respectivamente.

El descenso de los ingresos por intereses reflejó la menor dimensión de la cartera y las inversiones que pasaron a estado de no devengo durante el segundo y tercer trimestre. Los ingresos por dividendos y comisiones incluyeron 44 millones de dólares procedentes de la empresa conjunta, aproximadamente 40 millones de dólares de dividendos de otras empresas en cartera y cerca de 4 millones de dólares de ingresos por comisiones.

La renuncia de KKR a su parte de la comisión de incentivo sobre ingresos subordinados aportó 12 millones de dólares a los ingresos netos de inversión del tercer trimestre. El tercer trimestre fue el segundo de los cuatro trimestres consecutivos cubiertos por la renuncia anunciada.

Previsiones de la dirección

La dirección prevé que los ingresos netos de inversión GAAP por acción del cuarto trimestre de 2026 equivalgan a entre un 8% y un 9% anualizado del NAV. La compañía advirtió de que el dividendo de 25 millones de dólares de Belk contabilizado en el tercer trimestre fue de carácter no recurrente y que el cuarto trimestre suele incluir la provisión anual de impuestos especiales de FSK.

FSK también espera que los resultados del cuarto trimestre se beneficien de un dividendo de aproximadamente 17 millones de dólares procedente de JW Aluminum. La dirección señaló que la actividad de la cartera y los riesgos asociados al mercado podrían hacer que los resultados reales difieran de estas previsiones.

El consejo de administración declaró una distribución ordinaria para el cuarto trimestre de 0,44 dólares por acción y una distribución extraordinaria de 0,20 dólares por acción. La dirección señaló que las distribuciones trimestrales pueden fluctuar en función de los ingresos netos de inversión. La distribución extraordinaria representa una parte de los ingresos acumulados no distribuidos (spillover) estimados de FSK.

Riesgos y aspectos a vigilar

Las inversiones en no devengo mejoraron desde el 7,1% a coste y el 3,8% a valor razonable en el segundo trimestre hasta el 6,4% y el 3,4%, respectivamente. No obstante, 3Pillar Global y New Era Technology se incorporaron a la categoría de no devengo durante el tercer trimestre, lo que supone aproximadamente 142 millones de dólares a coste y 102 millones de dólares a valor razonable.

Medallia salió del estado de no devengo tras reestructurarse en un préstamo de primer gravamen de 66 millones de dólares, 42 millones de dólares en acciones preferentes y 14 millones de dólares en acciones ordinarias. La dirección subrayó que los riesgos y las incertidumbres persisten tras la reestructuración.

La dirección identificó el sector del software como un área de especial preocupación debido a las variaciones en las valoraciones, las condiciones de refinanciación y los riesgos vinculados a la IA. Aproximadamente el 25% de la cartera vence entre la fecha de amortización anticipada (call date) y 2028, si bien la dirección afirmó estar menos preocupada por el calendario general de vencimientos al margen del software.

La compañía también citó las tensiones geopolíticas, la incertidumbre sobre la política monetaria y la evolución de los requisitos de capital para la IA como factores que definen el entorno de mercado.

Puntos destacados de la sesión de preguntas y respuestas

• Despliegue de capital: La dirección prevé que las prioridades de recompra y gestión del apalancamiento continúen durante aproximadamente los próximos cinco trimestres. El objetivo declarado de apalancamiento de FSK es de aproximadamente 1,0 a 1,25 veces.
• Fijación de precios en crédito privado: La dirección estimó que los diferenciales, incluidos los descuentos de emisión original y las comisiones iniciales, eran unos 50 puntos básicos más amplios que a principios de 2026, tras haberse ampliado brevemente en unos 100 puntos básicos. El mercado actual se describió como más favorable para los prestamistas.
• Actividad en nuevas operaciones: La plataforma general de KKR observa una mayor actividad de entrada y preparativos de venta, pero la dirección señaló que las operaciones de M&A respaldadas por patrocinadores siguen limitadas por las diferencias de valoración entre compradores y vendedores.
• Financiación respaldada por activos: La dirección sigue considerando que entre el 10% y el 15% es el rango de asignación adecuado y no tiene intención de reducir activamente la estrategia. Describió el perfil de rentabilidad ajustada al riesgo del segmento como atractivo.
• Exención de comisiones: La dirección no se comprometió a prorrogar la actual exención de comisiones de incentivo de cuatro trimestres. Los acuerdos sobre comisiones se abordan anualmente con el consejo de administración.
• JW Aluminum: La dirección señaló que el pago previsto para el cuarto trimestre sería el cuarto o quinto dividendo de la compañía en los últimos años, lo que hace que este tipo de distribuciones sean más recurrentes que un hecho aislado, aunque no trimestrales.

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Comentarios de la dirección

Operator

Your lines will be in a listen-only mode during remarks by FSK's management. At the conclusion of the company's remarks, we will begin the question and answer session. at which time I will give you instructions on entering the queue. Please note that this conference call is being recorded. At this time, Anna Klein, Head of Investor Relations, will proceed with the introduction. Ms. Klein, you may begin.

Unknown Speaker

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to FS KKR Capital Corp's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Please note that FSKKR Capital Corp. may be referred to as FSK, the fund, or the company throughout the call. Today's conference call is being recorded and an audio replay of the call will be available for 30 days. Replay information is included in a press release that FSK issued this morning. In addition, FSK has posted on its website a presentation containing supplemental financial information with respect to its portfolio and financial performance for the quarter-ended September 30, 2026. A link to today's webcast and the presentation is available on the For Investors section of the company's website under Events and Presentations. Please note that this call is the property of FSK.

Any unauthorized rebroadcast of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. Today's conference call includes forward-looking statements that are not historical facts, including, without limitation, statements with regard to future events or future performance or financial condition. regarding share repurchase activity, distribution levels and frequency, expectations for net investment income levels in future quarters, and the financial position, business strategy, and plans and objectives of management for FSK's future operations. Words such as anticipate, believe, expect, intend, project, and future, or similar expressions, indicate a forward-looking statement, although not all forward-looking statements include these words. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of performance or events and are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors, some of which are beyond our control and difficult to predict, and could cause our actual results or future events to differ materially from those expressed or forecasted in these forward-looking statements for any reason. we ask that you refer to FSK's most recent filings with the SEC for important factors and risks that could cause actual results or future events to differ materially from these statements. The forward-looking statements included on this call are based on information available to FSK today and current expectations. forecasts and assumptions and involve a number of judgments, risks and uncertainties. Except as required by the federal securities laws, FSK undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures that have not been prepared in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles.

These non-GAAP financial measures are not in accordance with, or an alternative to measures, prepared in accordance with GAAP and may be different from non-GAAP financial measures used by other companies. In addition, these non-GAAP financial measures are not based on any comprehensive set of accounting rules or principles. These measures should only be used to evaluate FSK's results of operations in conjunction with their corresponding GAAP measures. For such non-GAAP measures, reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in FSK's third quarter earnings release that was furnished with the SEC on November 5, 2026, and in the presentation posted on our website. To obtain copies of the company's latest SEC filings, please visit FSK's website. Speaking on today's call will be Michael Forman, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman, Dan Pietrzak, Chief Investment Officer and President, and Stephen Lilly, Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us on the call today, are Co-Chief Operating Officers Drew O'Toole and Ryan Wilson.

Unknown Speaker

I'll now turn the call over to Michael. Thank you, Anna, and good.

Unknown Speaker

morning, everyone. Thank you for joining FSK's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. During the third quarter, FSK generated net investment income totaling $0.46 per share and adjusted net investment income totaling $0.46 per share. As of September 30th, our net asset value per share was $18.28. Thank you. On October 8th, we announced that our board declared a fourth quarter 2026 distribution of 44 cents per share to common stockholders and a special distribution of 20 cents per share to common stockholders. Both distributions will be paid in December of this year. As we have indicated on prior earnings calls, we expect our quarterly distribution level will fluctuate as our net investment income varies on a quarter to quarter basis. The special distribution amount represents a portion of FSK's estimated accumulated spillback income and is intended to distribute additional taxable income to shareholders in connection with the company's maintenance of its treatment as a regulated investment company under the Internal Revenue Code.

Our third quarter net investment income was positively impacted by a one-time portfolio company dividend, which Dan will discuss during his portion of the call. In terms of FSK's strategic objectives, while we recognize there is more work to be done, we are pleased with the progress we are making. Since the stock buyback plan's inception on June 29th through October 30th, we have purchased $90 million worth of common stock, representing 30% of our $300 million authorization. program. The activity has resulted in the companies repurchasing approximately 8 million shares of common stock. We are continuing to achieve our goal of delivering a per share annualized dividend rate of 8 to 9% of net asset value per share to our common shareholders. We are continuing to work through certain non-income producing assets and investments facing challenges within our portfolio. And we are continuing our longer term focus of transitioning our investment portfolio. to more first lien senior secured positions.

As we move into the fourth quarter of 2026 and begin contemplating the year ahead, we remain focused on achieving our strategic objectives. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Dan.

Daniel Pietrzak

Thanks, Michael. The market environment continues to be shaped by uncertainty surrounding geopolitical tensions, monetary policy, and the evolution and capital requirements of AI. Against this backdrop, we believe economic and corporate fundamentals continue to demonstrate resilience. We believe private credit portfolios offer attractive characteristics in the current environment, including directly negotiated transactions, predominantly floating rate structures, and diversified exposure across issuers and industries. During the third quarter, we continued making progress on the strategic actions the FSK Care Advisor announced earlier this year to help enhance the financial profile of FSK. During the third quarter, we repurchased 6.2 million shares of common stock, or approximately $69 million, at an average price of $11.24 per share. Our third quarter share repurchases were accretive to our net asset value per share by 16 cents. Since the beginning of the fourth quarter through October 30th, we have repurchased 1.5 million shares, or approximately $17 million, bringing the cumulative value of share repurchases to $90 million since the $300 million Common Stock Repurchase Program commenced on June 29th.

And as a reminder, beginning in the second quarter of 2026, KKR agreed to waive its portion of the subordinated income incentive fee for four consecutive quarters. waiver had a positive $12 million impact on our third quarter net investment income. As Michael mentioned, during the third quarter, FSK's net investment income was positively impacted by a $25 million non-recurring dividend from our portfolio company, Belk. dividend increased our third quarter net investment income per share by 8 cents. Turning to our investment activity, during the third quarter we originated approximately $335 million of new investments. Our new investments, combined with $442 million of sales and repayments, equates to a net portfolio decrease of $107 million during the third quarter. We continue to focus on upper middle market companies with EBITDA in the 50 to 150 million range across a diverse set of industries and sectors. As of September 30th, the weighted average EBITDA of our portfolio was $235 million and the median EBITDA was $131 million. Our portfolio companies reported a weighted average year-over-year EBITDA growth rate of approximately 4% across companies in which we have invested in since April of 2018.

Interest coverage levels remain healthy with median third quarter coverage of two times. In August, Velocity Financial publicly announced its intention to acquire TORAC, a business-purpose real estate lending platform. KKR originally invested in Torac in 2016, and since that time has worked closely with Torac's management team to scale the platform considerably. As of September 30th, Toffalon, Torac's holding company, was FSK's eighth largest investment. The acquisition is currently expected to close in the fourth quarter of 2026, subject to closing conditions. As of September 30th, non-accruals represented 6.4% of our portfolio on a cost basis and 3.4% of our portfolio on a fair value basis. as compared to 7.1% of our portfolio on a cost basis and 3.8% of our portfolio on a fair value basis as of June 30th. During the third quarter, two investments, 3Pillar Global and New Era Technology, were added to non-accrual status.

These new non-accruals total approximately $142 million of costs and $102 million of fair value across our investment portfolio. Medallia was restructured during the third quarter into a new $66 million first lien loan, a new $42 million preferred equity investment, and a new $14 million common equity investment. Following the restructuring, Medallia was removed from non-accrual status during the third quarter. We'd like to remind investors, as with any restructuring, risk and uncertainties remain with respect to future performance. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Stephen to go through our financial results. Thanks, Dan.

Steven Lilly

As of September 30th, 2026, FSK's investment portfolio had a fair value of $11.3 billion, consisting of 234 portfolio companies. At the end of the third quarter, our 10 largest portfolio companies represented approximately 21% of the fair value of our portfolio. which is in line with prior quarters. We remain focused on senior secured investments as our portfolio consisted of approximately 59% first lien loans and 63% senior secured debt as of September 30th. In addition, our joint venture represented approximately 14% of the fair value of our portfolio as of the end of the third quarter. As a result, when looking through to the investments in our joint venture, first lien loans total approximately 69% of our total portfolio, and senior secured investments total approximately 73% of our total portfolio as of September 30th. The weighted average yield on accruing debt investments was 10% as of September 30th, as compared to 9.8% during the second quarter. Turning to our quarterly operating results, our total investment income was $294 million for the third quarter, an increase of $4 million compared to the second quarter.

The primary components of our total quarterly investment income were as follows. Total interest income was $206 million, representing a decrease of $11 million quarter over quarter. The decline in interest income primarily was due to a reduction in the size of our investment portfolio and assets placed on non-accrual during the second and third quarters. Dividend and fee income totaled $88 million, an increase of $15 million quarter over quarter. Our total dividend and fee income is summarized as follows. $44 million of dividend income from our joint venture. Other dividends from various portfolio companies totaling approximately $40 million during the quarter. which includes the $25 million one-time dividend from Belk and fee income totaling approximately $4 million during the quarter. Our net expenses were $167 million during the third quarter, which is a decrease of $1 million compared to the second quarter.

The primary components of our net expenses were as follows. Our interest expense totaled $99 million, a decrease of $2 million quarter over quarter. Our weighted average stated interest rate on borrowings was 5.6% as of September 30th. Management fees total $42 million, a decrease of $2 million quarter over quarter. As Dan mentioned, for the second of four consecutive quarters, KKR waived 100% of its portion of the subordinated income incentive fee. This waiver applies to 50% of the subordinated income incentive fee that otherwise would be paid. Net of this waiver, income incentive fees totaled $11 million, a decrease of $1 million compared to the second quarter.

Other expenses total $13 million, an increase of $2 million quarter over quarter. primarily due to an increase in certain deal costs and professional expenses. Lastly, we incurred $2 million of excise tax during the third quarter in conjunction with the finalization of 2025 tax items related to certain international and ABF investments. The detailed bridge in our net asset value per share on a quarter-over-quarter basis is as follows. Ending 2Q2026 net asset value per share of $18.30 was increased by GAAP net investment income of 46 cents per share and was decreased by 19 cents per share due to a decrease in the overall value of our investment portfolio. Our net asset value per share was reduced by our 44 cents per share quarter common stock distribution and our one cent per share quarterly preferred stock distribution on a common stock equivalent basis paid during the quarter. our net asset value per share was increased by 16 cents per share due to share repurchases. The sum of these activities results in our September 30, 2026 net asset value per share of $18.28. From a forward-looking perspective, for the fourth quarter of 2026, we currently expect our GAAP net investment income per share to be in the range of 8% to 9% of net asset value per share on an annualized basis.

We encourage investors to consider that the third quarter Belk dividend was non-recurring and that the fourth quarter is when FSK typically recognizes its annual excise tax provision. In addition to these items, we expect the fourth quarter will be positively impacted by a dividend from a portfolio company, JW Aluminum, approximating $17 million. We were to remind investors that the portfolio activity Dan described, as well as market-based future risks and uncertainties, could cause their anticipated fourth quarter 2026 results to differ from this guidance. As of September 30th, our debt to equity and net debt to equity levels were 127% and 125% respectively can be compared to 127% and 122% of June 30. At the end of the third quarter, our available liquidity was $3.4 billion and approximately 73% of our drawn balance sheet and 49% of our committed balance sheet was comprised of unsecured debt. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Michael for a few closing remarks before we open the call for questions.

Unknown Speaker

Thanks, Stephen. We believe the third quarter represents another step forward in the goals we outlined earlier this year. We are encouraged by our progress, but we recognize there is still more work to do. Looking ahead, we remain focused on advancing our portfolio rotation efforts, repurchasing shares, and delivering long-term value for shareholders. As always, we appreciate your participation on the call today and for your interest in SSK. Operator, we'd now like to open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you'll need to press star 1 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1 1 again. Please stand by, we will compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of John Hecht of Jefferies, your line is now open.

Preguntas y respuestas

John Hecht

Morning, guys, and thanks for taking my questions. And, Stephen, thanks for the detail about Q4. First question is, you know, within your portfolio, you know, what's the maturity cadence over the next two years? And is there any industry-specific composition that you can call out? I guess software, really. would be of interest predominantly, but anything else in terms of the industry composition during that period of time?.

Unknown Speaker

Good morning, John. Thanks for the question. You know, ballpark 25% of the portfolio would be sort of between now and kind of 28. You probably expect considering one, you have to tie that back to origination dates. Yes, I think from a conceptual perspective, I'm probably a little bit less worried about, you know, the maturity wall concept in general, but I think we are focused on that on the software space. Obviously, there's been a seismic shift there in terms of you know, valuations, where the debt market is going to take sort of new deals or refi's of existing deals. So, you know, I think outside of software, probably not that worried. Inside of software, I think it's clearly on our mind.

And I suspect it's on the mind of many others.

John Hecht

Okay. And then I guess thinking about your pipeline and outlook for deployment activity, any thoughts anything moving with bid-ask spreads or terms, I guess, particularly in light of interest rate uncertainty and geopolitical uncertainty?.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, I'll take that in a couple different pieces, right? Because the market is definitely, I would say, wider than it was at the start of the year. And I would attribute that mainly to the activity or the redemption activity in the non-traded BDC space. I think, at least in our opinion, I think spread's probably gone 100 basis points wider. including OID, the sort of up-front fees, and it's since given sort of some of that back, but probably 50 basis points wider versus the start of the year. And I would say the overall tone or... um you know a little bit more lender friendly than sort of borrower friendly and obviously you know, not just the redemptions, but the rest of the stuff gone on kind of macro. geopolitical helps that. I think in terms of FSK specifically, obviously we're a little less focused on deployment, more focused on... getting the buyback plan done, more focused on getting leverage inside the target. So the number, you know, even our new deals or kind of new deployment this quarter was a little bit skewed by one transaction was committed to in 25 that actually funded this quarter. So, you know, I think Mark did a little bit better.

I think where we're at now is we're focused on the things we sort of talked about. You know, at some point that dynamic will change. We'll get a little bit more kind of fresh new deal flow in here, hopefully generate a little bit more on the upfront fee side as well.

Operator

Great, thanks very much. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rick Shane of JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Richard Shane

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. John really stuck the landing in terms of what I wanted to ask. The comment about focusing on continuing to delever and at the same time buy back stock, through pay downs makes sense. I am curious now that we're starting to see book value stabilize, you realized a lot of losses in the third quarter but did not hit book, so suggesting your reserve levels or your reserve levels, your marks, are appropriate, that's good execution. What do you think the timeframe realistically to starting to deploy capital again on a net basis looks like? Is that a 28 timeframe? Yes.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, it's a fair question. I appreciate the question. I think we've been pretty consistent in either conversations or talking about it on the last couple of calls. It's important for us to get the buyback done. I think we want to manage that buyback with also kind of being in the right leverage kind of zip code, right? I think we've talked about our leverage target, you know, it's kind of one to one and a quarter. We've gotten it down at least versus, say, two quarters ago, you know, so that's probably planned. out, you know, John, over the course of 27 is my guess, right? You think about both getting the repurchase program done as well as getting within that leverage number. Now, there are things that I think are, you know, good results, like you had a very good investment or experience with the Torax investment. We started that in 2016. the company grew meaningfully, well beyond anybody's expectations in terms of value, but it felt like a good time for that company to take its next step and sort of monetize.

So I'd probably think about it over the course of the next five quarters.

Richard Shane

Got it. And Dan, I do realize the irony of me asking questions about growth and sort of glossing over the commitment on the buyback. So I do appreciate, you know, know where you guys are sort of what you're moving through. I appreciate that comment. Thank you.

Operator

Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Finian O'Shea of Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is now open.

Finian O'Shea

Hey everyone, good morning. Steve I think you mentioned you had a more complete picture of spillover from the EBF vehicles. Any color you could give on that as to where you are, if we might expect future specials or this is it. if you will, maybe a range on the fourth quarter tax item.

Steven Lilly

Yes, Ben, good morning. I think when you consider in our last 10K, I think we said spillover was 464 million. We paid 2 million of excise in this quarter, so that would imply that that balance is a little bit higher. when you do that math, and then we also announced the special distribution of 20 cents a share. So, you're sort of settling still in the top end of the range, and we will publish the spillover for the end of 2026, when we file our 10-K in February. So that number will come out then, but still would say from a guidance standpoint, you're more the top end of the range. Yes, so I'd probably just leave it there for now. Okay, that's helpful. Thanks.

Finian O'Shea

Then just a follow-up on sort of the overall progress – that continues, you guys talked a bit about should we think about the fee waivers and the as more straightforwardly this one time one year event or as they lapse, do you all contemplate a more permanent change after that?.

Unknown Speaker

Yes good morning I think that one obviously we're in the second quarter of that the second quarter of the announced sort of four quarters you know I think we're, you know, happy we sort of did that. I think we're happy with the overall package of items we did, gone back now sort of two quarters. I think we'll obviously have that conversation with the board kind of as appropriate, as kind of required on that annual basis. But right now I think we're only two quarters in. And I think we're, with some of the progress that we've been able to make across the portfolio, but I think we acknowledge that there is more work to do and that's what we're focused on.

Finian O'Shea

So it ties to the portfolio progress. as to whether it's sort of just this one time.

Unknown Speaker

You know, obviously, I think it ties to, in some ways, the entirety of the situation, right? I wouldn't say it ties directly to the portfolio process. My point being more that we're two quarters into the four quarters being announced. We obviously discussed fees with the board. on an annual basis. But I think we singularly, on our side as a team, are focused on the portfolio and the work we have to do.

Unknown Speaker

Very good. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thanks. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers of Truist Securities. Your line is now open. We can't hear you. Yes. Thank you. Apologies.

Arren Cyganovich

I want to touch on the portfolio management and non-accruals that have already come through. You had a couple new ones this quarter. What's in the watch list? I know it's hard to say. when things go bad or not, but do you feel like you've gotten a good handle in terms of maybe limiting some of these new non-accruals as you're kind of working through the portfolio and going forward.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, I'm happy to take that. You know, I think, I mean, you are correct, right? A credit book does move. And, you know, does sort of change quarter on quarter. So, you know, that said, I think you can, you know, look at kind of our – you know, risk rating threes and fours as probably a fair description of watch list names. You know, I think if you think about some of the specific events of the quarter, you know, I think, you know, speaking for ourselves, but I suspect the other lenders as well, we were happy to get the Medallion restructuring done to try to get to the next, you know, phase for that company. you know, Repiller is one of the names that would be kind of in that software space with some AI risk around it. the team is very active in trying to work on to the next steps there. You know, the new year is more of a... of an IT integration kind of managed services business. I think there's really operational points there more than anything else.

But again, kind of team and other lenders in that kind of position focused on that. So you know I think you know active across the board feel like we've had you know some good progress on some of the other names that we may have talked about in the past but I think we are mindful that you know things can change or if the world is a pretty volatile place right now and we've got to get some of these positions to the other side.

Arren Cyganovich

And maybe just to talk about it from the standpoint of your platform beyond this BDC. What are you seeing? I imagine that you're still originating and you're the you're doing all of the more forward-looking and forward actions in other vehicles. You know, what are you seeing from the market from that standpoint? Maybe just some thoughts on some of the trends you're seeing currently.

Unknown Speaker

Yes maybe a couple points i mean you are correct right i mean um you know we are uh quite active in the market um to other pools of capital, but FSK is historically invested alongside of, or still does, maybe just in much, much smaller size. I do go back to what I said on, I think it was John's question. The overall tone of the market, definitely a little bit more lender-friendly than it was prior. I think that's good to see. I think the team, for most of this year, probably felt pretty light in terms of new deal flow. kind of broad stroke across the board. I'm not sure that's entirely surprising considering, you know, Iran and still this lingering inflation. Yes, I think we're getting a bit, you know, busier or there's a bit more kind of activity, more kind of inbounds on books being prepared, companies trying to be sold.

But I think the market is still missing some, you know what I think we've all been expecting you know healthy amount of deal flow of sponsors selling businesses and I think that's just going to take some time or it's going to be the kind of bid ask for price is going to sort of narrow or need to narrow Yes, so I think we're out of the business of forecasting. when M&A is going to come back in a normal sort of sense. But at some point, I think some of these things will have to come to market. You'll have to see some of the activity and stuff. And maybe the only other comment just for your benefit, we have seen, you know, even, you know, we'll call it the opposite side of maybe the redemptions in the retail space. We have seen a strong either continued interest or maybe even a little bit greater interest from the institutional side on investing in the space. on the investor side.

Arren Cyganovich

On that last comment, is the institutional interest remaining at that level? you know picked up in the summer and uh early fall uh whenever spreads were yes i think it seems like Yes, I think it's remaining. Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

Unknown Speaker

there's a little bit of a tailwind to rates ticking up, right? Yep, absolutely. Thank you. Alright, thanks for your questions. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Dodd of Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Robert Dodd

Hi, guys, and congratulations on the stable quarter. I've got a question on the asset-backed finance side of the book. I mean, if I look at it in the – just do the math, right? You had 11.6% of the portfolio at the end of Q3, but with TORAC, Romano, whatever I'm supposed to currently call it, getting acquired in Q4. I mean, you could end the year potentially in the single digits on that side of the business, so call it 10%-ish. Is that like is that the new plan right? I mean you've talked about going to more first lien I mean is the plan to shrink the ABS completely component in the book which may not be as well understood by investors, because it is different from a lot of other BDCs, is it the plan to shrink that? Or is this just a temporary low in terms of allocation to the ABF strategy?.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, good morning. I wouldn't classify it as an active focus on shrinking it. I think we've historically talked about it in the range of 10 to 15 percent. I think you should expect that range to sort of continue. We're constantly managing, like any other BDC, the 30% bucket as well. And as we are kind of shrinking, you know, certain assets are taking repayments to buy back shares and sort of delever. So I think it's part of the whole calculus, but I wouldn't think about it as an active sort of piece. I think we've seen good performance in that part of our portfolio.

We think that marketplace itself remains quite interesting from... from a risk-adjusted return perspective. You know, so it's, but I just constantly have that 10 to 15% range.

Robert Dodd

Got it. Thank you. I mean, on that, just on Webster, I mean, obviously, there's about a 40 million gap between your fair value and your cost basis this quarter. I mean, on the acquisition price, is that basically the same? Basically, that's baked into the fair value, or is the acquisition price potentially higher than you had it marked at Q3?.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, I mean, I will actually go check this specific and circle back. I think that business has historically been a strong sort of dividend payer for us. So I want to check on some of that sort of piece, but I think overall result of the investment you know, considering when we started that business, I think we thought we would have originated a billion dollars of assets. I think the company's done 14 or 15 billion by this point. And they've done a good job. I think it was just the, you know, we've owned it for 10 years, I think both for the company's benefit. I think from time to time it's good to rotate out of these things.

It was sort of proper to sell. But I'll come back on that to a specific point to you.

Robert Dodd

Got it, thank you. One more if I can real quick, flipping the other end on what's normally non-income producing equity, JW Aluminum, but it's going to pay, dividend in the fourth quarter. I mean, that business continues to do very well. Um, I know I've asked you about this before, but like, you know, yes, the M&A market's slow, but that's a good business. It's not AI exposed. Um, maybe it's going to, you're going to use aluminum to build the skeletons for a robot overlords, but, um, That seems like exactly the kind of business that would be attractive to a buyer right now. Have there been any inquiries or any interest more recently in you monetizing that business? Yes.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, your points are not unfair. I think we've been very happy with performance there. I think the team has done a good job over a long period of time. The management team today is doing a good job. There is tailwind there to your point probably difficult to comment on if there's any, you know, inbound interest, but I don't think you're incorrect in the sense that, you know, with those tailwinds, with it not being AI, it's probably not a bad fact. You know, I would note... this is the fourth or fifth dividend the business has paid in the last handful of years. It's not necessarily every quarter, but considering performance, it is becoming a little bit more of a consistent fact or recurring fact than sort of a one-off fact.

I just would note that. Yes, fair enough. Fair enough. Thank you. Okay, have a good day. Thank you.

Operator

I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Dan Pietrzak for closing remarks.

Unknown Speaker

So thank you. And thank you, everyone, for your time today. If there are any follow-up points, please do not hesitate to reach out to the team. We look forward to speaking with you on our next quarterly call. Have a good day.

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