Valmont Industries – Zusammenfassung der Telefonkonferenz zum 3. Quartal 2026

Valmont Industries (VMI) meldete für das dritte Quartal einen höheren Umsatz und ein höheres Ergebnis, getrieben von den Bereichen North America Utility und Coatings. Das Management hob seine Prognose für das bereinigte Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS) für das Gesamtjahr an und warnte zugleich, dass sich beschleunigende Stahl- und andere Vorleistungskosten den Druck auf die Marge kurzfristig erhöhen werden.

Wichtigste Erkenntnisse

• Der Nettoumsatz stieg im Jahresvergleich um 5,5 % auf 1,1 Milliarden US-Dollar, während die operative Marge um 220 Basispunkte auf 15,7 % stieg.
• Das verwässerte Ergebnis je Aktie stieg um 25,3 % auf 6,24 US-Dollar. Valmont hob seine Prognose für das bereinigte verwässerte Ergebnis je Aktie für 2026 auf 22,75 bis 23,75 US-Dollar an.
• Der Umsatz im Bereich Infrastructure wuchs um 9,1 % auf 882,1 Millionen US-Dollar. Der Umsatz im Bereich North America Utility stieg um 23 %, wobei das Volumen den Großteil des Wachstums ausmachte und die Preisgestaltung einen Beitrag im zweistelligen Prozentbereich leistete.
• Der Auftragsbestand im Bereich Infrastructure erreichte 1,8 Milliarden US-Dollar, was in erster Linie Aufträge von Versorgungsunternehmen widerspiegelt. Laut Management hat sich die Projektpipeline bis 2029 verstärkt, und die Aufträge reichen bis weit in das Jahr 2028.
• Der Umsatz im Bereich Agriculture sank um 6,4 % auf 226 Millionen US-Dollar, da ein Wachstum von 15,8 % in Nordamerika durch einen Rückgang von 25,3 % im internationalen Geschäft ausgeglichen wurde.
• Das Management rechnet für das vierte Quartal mit einer Moderierung von Ergebnis und Margen aufgrund der Inflation bei den Vorleistungskosten, des Geschäftsmix sowie des Wegfalls bestimmter Vorteile aus dem dritten Quartal.

Wichtige Finanzkennzahlen

Geschäfts- und operative Entwicklung

Infrastructure

Der Umsatz im Bereich North America Utility stieg um 23 %, unterstützt durch höhere Volumina und Preisanpassungen. Das Management erwartet für das Gesamtjahr ein Wachstum im Utility-Bereich im mittleren 20-Prozent-Bereich und ein zweistelliges Volumenwachstum. Das Unternehmen hat rund 20 % der zusätzlichen Utility-Stahlproduktionskapazität in Betrieb genommen, die zur Unterstützung seines Plans für 2029 erforderlich ist.

Der Umsatz im Bereich North America Coatings stieg um 13,8 % aufgrund der Nachfrage aus dem Versorgungsinfrastrukturbau und von Rechenzentren. Valmont plant, mehr Verzinkungskapazitäten auf interne Volumina zu verlagern, wenn Erweiterungsprojekte in Betrieb gehen.

Der Umsatz im Bereich Lighting and Transportation ging um 2,2 % zurück, da eine solide Nachfrage im Verkehrssektor durch eine schwächere Wohn- und Gewerbebauaktivität ausgeglichen wurde, die sich auf den Beleuchtungssektor auswirkte.

Der Umsatz im Bereich Telecom fiel um 33,8 %, da Mobilfunkbetreiber nach dem Höhepunkt des 5G-Ausbaus bei ihren Investitionen weiterhin zurückhaltend blieben. Das Management rechnet derzeit bis ins Jahr 2027 mit ähnlichen Bedingungen, wies jedoch auf eine begrenzte Visibilität und eine mögliche Verbesserung gegen Ende der zweiten Jahreshälfte hin.

Der internationale Umsatz im Bereich Infrastructure stieg um 5,5 %, begünstigt durch Preisanpassungen und vorteilhafte Wechselkurseffekte. Valmont sicherte sich zudem einen europäischen Auftrag zur Lieferung von Verteilermasten an ein großes Versorgungsunternehmen.

Agriculture

Der Umsatz im Bereich North America Agriculture stieg um 15,8 %, was in erster Linie darauf zurückzuführen war, dass Unwetter eine starke Ersatznachfrage auslösten. Günstige Preisanpassungen und ein höherer Nordamerika-Anteil stützten ebenfalls die Profitabilität.

Der Umsatz im Bereich International Agriculture sank um 25,3 %, was hauptsächlich auf geringere Volumina im Nahen Osten und in Brasilien zurückzuführen war. Der Umsatz mit Ersatzteilen stieg dennoch um etwa 12 %, während Technology Services trotz einer schwächeren Gerätenachfrage um 7 % zulegte.

Die operative Marge im Bereich Agriculture erreichte 17,9 %, einschließlich einmaliger Vorteile von rund 7 Millionen US-Dollar, die sich hauptsächlich auf Erstattungen in Südamerika bezogen. Ohne diese Effekte lag die Segmentmarge laut Management knapp über 14 %.

Valmont erhielt den Zuschlag für ein Projekt im Umfang von 100 Millionen US-Dollar in Nordafrika, das Technologie- und Wassermanagementlösungen umfasst. Die Lieferungen werden voraussichtlich in der ersten Hälfte des Jahres 2027 beginnen und etwa 18 bis 24 Monate andauern. Laut Management liegt die Marge des Projekts leicht unter der Basis-Operationsmarge des Segments, jedoch nicht erheblich.

Prognose des Managements

Das Management strebt bis Ende 2029 weiterhin ein Ergebnis je Aktie von 35 US-Dollar an. Das Unternehmen rechnet zudem damit, die Wachstumsinvestitionen im Jahr 2027 im Vergleich zu 2026 zu verdoppeln, um die Kapazitäten in den Bereichen Utility und Coatings auszubauen.

Risiken und wichtige Beobachtungspunkte

• Die durchschnittlichen Stahlpreise auf dem für vertragliche Weitergaben verwendeten Drittanbieter-Index lagen etwa 50 % über dem Vorjahresniveau.
• Preisanpassungen benötigen in einem stabilen Kostenumfeld in der Regel zwei bis drei Quartale, um sich in den Ergebnissen niederzuschlagen. Das Management erwartet für das vierte Quartal einen größeren Margendruck, da sich die Inflation bei den Vorleistungskosten beschleunigt.
• Die Rahmenbedingungen im Bereich Agriculture bleiben aufgrund erhöhter Vorleistungskosten, niedrigerer Getreidepreise, hoher brasilianischer Zinsen und Projektverzögerungen im Nahen Osten herausfordernd.
• Die Profitabilität im Bereich Agriculture profitierte im dritten Quartal von unwetterbedingter Ersatznachfrage, einem günstigen regionalen Mix und einmaligen Erstattungen, bei denen nicht davon ausgegangen wird, dass sie sich auf demselben Niveau wiederholen.
• Die Nachfrage im Bereich Telecom bleibt schwach, und das Management erklärte, dass die Visibilität hinsichtlich des Zeitpunkts einer Erholung begrenzt ist.
• Die Lieferzeiten in der Versorgungsbranche haben sich auf 60 bis 70 Wochen verlängert, da die Nachfrage steigt und neue Kapazitäten hochgefahren werden.

Wichtigste Punkte aus der Analysten-Fragerunde

• Zeitliche Abfolge von Preisen und Kosten: Das Management erklärte, dass der Margendruck im dritten Quartal gering war, sich im vierten Quartal jedoch verstärken dürfte. Eine Margenverbesserung wird davon abhängen, ob sich die Inflation der Vorleistungskosten ausreichend abschwächt, damit die vertraglichen Preisanpassungen aufholen können.
• Ausblick für Utility: Das Unternehmen gab an, dass das Vertrauen in sein langfristiges Utility-Ziel gestiegen ist. Die Kundenausgaben, der Auftragsbestand und die Pipeline bis 2029 haben sich verstärkt, während die Kundenplanung bis 2030 und in einigen Gesprächen bis 2032 reicht.
• Utility-Preisanpassungen für 2027: Das Management erwartet, dass die zweistelligen Preisanpassungen im Utility-Bereich bis 2027 anhalten werden, weitgehend um höhere Stahlkosten auszugleichen, anstatt vollständig in den Gewinn zu fließen.
• Normalisierung der Marge im Bereich Agriculture: Das Management erwartet für das vierte Quartal einen normaleren Mix aus Nordamerika und dem internationalen Geschäft, was im Vergleich zur ungewöhnlich starken Marge des dritten Quartals zu Druck führt.
• Branchenkapazitäten: Valmont erklärte, dass die Nachfrage im Utility-Bereich trotz angekündigter Kapazitätserweiterungen weiterhin das Angebot übersteigt. Das Management hob Engineering-Expertise, Lieferzuverlässigkeit und langjährige Kundenbeziehungen als Wettbewerbsvorteile hervor.

Vollständiges Transkript der Telefonkonferenz

Vollständiges Transkript der Telefonkonferenz

Ausführungen des Managements

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Valmont Industries, Inc. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the conference over to your host, Renee Campbell, Senior Vice President, Capital Markets & Risk. Ms. Campbell, you may begin.

Renee Campbell

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Avner Applbaum, President and Chief Executive Officer; John Schwietz, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Eric Johnson, Chief Accounting Officer; and Casey Meyer, Vice President, Treasury and Investor Relations.

Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our third quarter 2026 results. Both the release and the presentation for today's webcast are available on the Investors page of our website at valmont.com. A replay of the webcast will be available later this morning.

To stay updated with Valmont's latest news releases and information, please sign up for e-mail alerts on our Investor site. We'll begin today's call with prepared remarks and then open it up for questions. A reminder that today's presentation and Q&A includes forward-looking statements about Valmont's expectations, plans and future performance. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied. Important factors that could cause those differences are described under forward-looking statements, which is outlined on Slide 2 of today's presentation and in the risk disclosures in our most recent Form 10-K and subsequent Forms 10-Q available on our Investor Relations website at sec.gov. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Avner.

Avner Applbaum

Thank you, Renee. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Turning to Slide 4. I would like to start by highlighting 3 important takeaways from the quarter. First, we delivered another quarter of sales and earnings growth. Net sales increased 5.5% and operating margin expanded 220 basis points. Earnings per share rose 25.3%. The progress we are making reinforces our confidence in achieving our long-term financial objectives. Second, infrastructure growth continues to be anchored by markets where we have strong positions and see significant long-term opportunity. North America utility sales increased 23% as customers are modernizing the grid, adding capacity and improving resiliency as power demand growth.

North America coating sales grew 14%, supported by utility construction projects, including data centers. These businesses are delivering on our Investor Day priority to capture above-market growth in utility. Finally, North America Agriculture sales increased 16% and a notable result given the challenging broader market. When storms disrupted gross operations during their peak season, our Valley dealers and teams were ready to help get their systems back up and running as quickly as possible. Strong replacement activity contributed to the quarter's growth and demonstrated the value of the dealer network.

These relationships also support our strategy to grow aftermarket parts and technology strengthening the business even before a broader market recovery. Turning to Slide 5. I'll review our infrastructure businesses, starting with North America utility. Demand is exceptionally strong. Our alliance relationships give us visibility into customers' multiyear plans before projects become firm orders and enter the backlog. That pipeline continues to strengthen. This quarter, more of those opportunities converted into orders, bringing the infrastructure backlog to $1.8 billion. The projects ahead and orders in hand support our confidence in utility growth behind our path to $35 in earnings per share by the end of 2029.

My recent conversations with key utility customers reinforce our view that we are still early in a multiyear investment cycle. When a customer told me it has tripled its project management and field teams over the past 2 years to support its expanding investment program. That same company asked us to evaluate structural alternatives and total installation costs for a higher voltage transmission project. Customers rely on our engineering expertise to make informed decisions early in their projects. They have also made clear that dependable delivery is essential to their construction schedules. That's why we are focused not just on adding capacity but also on improving throughput and meeting delivery commitments.

Through the third quarter, we've installed and commissioned approximately 20% of the incremental utility steel production capacity required to support our 2029 plan. Lead times across the industry have extended as demand grows and new capacity ramps up. To support utility and coatings, we are increasing our expansion and expect to double our growth capital investment in 2027 compared with this year. These investments are aligned with visible customer demand in our capital framework presented at Investor Day.

North America Coatings is also benefiting from the infrastructure investment supporting utility and other end markets. With 1 of the largest galvanizing networks in the industry, our coatings business plays an important role in improving the durability and life cycle performance of critical steel infrastructure. With galvanizing demand outpacing industry supply, we expect to shift more of our existing capacity towards growing internal volumes as we bring expansion projects online. This will help us maintain reliable delivery for utility customers.

In Lighting & Transportation, transportation markets are healthy, while lighting continues to be affected by softer residential and commercial construction activity. We're pursuing targeted growth, including expanding our presence in Texas. Our work with utilities and municipalities is translating into new orders and product approvals, supporting our growth in this important market. Our priorities remain improving on-time delivery manufacturing reliability and overall operating performance.

In telecom, carrier capital deployment remains selective, following the peak of the 5G build-out. Several carriers are delaying site modification work to align with future technology and spectrum deployment. This impacted demand this quarter, and we expect market conditions to remain soft in the near term. This does not change our view of the longer-term need for network investment. We are well positioned to support long-term growth in data consumption and network capacity needs. Across our international infrastructure markets, we're advancing initiatives to strengthen commercial execution and operational performance across these businesses.

A good example this quarter is in Europe, where we secured a new contract to supply distribution poles to a major utility expanding our participation in grid investment. Turning to agriculture on Slide 6. The Global ag market conditions remain challenged. In North America, higher input costs and lower green prices continue to pressure pharmaeconomics and constrained capital spending. Recent industry reports indicated a decline in gross sentiment and capital investment expectations, reinforcing our view that this quarter sales growth does not suggest a broader market recovery.

The landscape is similar in Brazil. Interest rates and input costs remain elevated while green prices have not kept pace. We remain confident in the long-term fundamentals of the Brazilian market. In the Middle East, the ongoing conflict in the region continues to affect our operations and the timing of certain customer projects with high shipping costs, adding to the delays. We do not expect a near-term return to normal activity in the region and recovery will take time. At the same time, we are very pleased to have been awarded a $100 million project in North Africa, supporting food security in the region.

The project includes our full suite of technology and water management solutions to improve farm productivity and water efficiency. We expect shipments to begin in the first half of 2027 and our diverse global manufacturing footprint provides the flexibility to reliably serve this customer. While the underlying dynamics differ across regions, we expect the overall operating environment for ag to persist through year-end. We are investing in higher-value aftermarket and technology solutions to help growers improve productivity. These areas continue to gain traction and strengthen the quality and resilience of the business through the cycle. Across Valmont, our priority as we look ahead are clear, efficiently ramp the capacity we're adding, align our operations with demand across the portfolio, and recover higher input costs through disciplined pricing.

I'll now turn the call over to John to review our third quarter financial results and updated 2026 outlook.

John Schwietz

Thank you, Avner, and good morning, everyone. Turning to Slide 8. I'll begin with our consolidated results. Net sales of $1.1 billion increased 5.5% year-over-year driven by growth in infrastructure, notably North America Utility and Coatings. Operating income increased to $172.8 million, and operating margin expanded 220 basis points to 15.7%. Our tax rate was approximately 26%. Diluted earnings per share was $6.24, a 25.3% increase from prior year.

Moving to our segment results on Slide 9. Beginning with infrastructure. Sales of $882.1 million grew 9.1% year-over-year. North America utility sales increased 23%, driven by higher pricing and volume growth supported by a robust market environment. Sales in North America Lighting and Transportation declined 2.2% due to lower volumes. North America coating sales increased 13.8%, supported by healthy infrastructure and data center demand. North America telecom sales decreased 33.8%, reflecting lower carrier spending as customers shifted capital allocation priorities.

International sales increased 5.5% and driven by pricing actions and favorable foreign exchange impacts. Operating income increased to $154.8 million or 17.6% of net sales. Compared to $143.4 million or 17.8% of net sales. Higher pricing and volumes in utility and Coatings helped offset higher material costs the cost of ramping utility capacity and lower telecom contribution. We are addressing the margin pressure through contractual pass-throughs and broader pricing actions. As capacity ramps, we are focused on strategic sourcing, productivity enhancements and improving material flow.

Let me provide some context on the price/cost timing we are experiencing. Average steel prices on the third-party index we use for contractual pass-throughs were approximately 50% above prior year levels. This increase is visible in the chart we have in the appendix. Because of the size and duration of our utility backlog, these costs affect results before the related pricing adjustments reach revenue. When input costs stabilize, we expect pricing will catch up and support infrastructure margin expansion. This usually takes 2 to 3 quarters to fully realize. These near-term pressures do not change our view of the long-term earnings potential of this business.

Turning to Slide 10. Third quarter agriculture sales decreased 6.4% year-over-year to $226 million. North America sales increased 15.8%, led by strong replacement orders and favorable pricing. International sales decreased 25.3%, driven primarily by lower Middle East and Brazil volumes. We also saw continued growth in our higher-value offerings with aftermarket parts sales increasing approximately 12% and in Technology Services growing 7% despite softer equipment demand. Operating income increased to $40.1 million or 17.9% of net sales. Compared to $23.2 million or 9.7% of net sales. Lower credit losses and certain recoveries in Brazil and higher North America volumes contributed to the year-over-year increase which was partially offset by lower international volumes.

Moving to Slide 11 for cash, liquidity and capital allocation. Operating cash flow was $100.5 million which includes $40 million of accelerated receivable collections. Working capital increased during the quarter, driven in part by increased sales volume and raw material inflation. We remain focused on improving cash conversion. We ended the quarter with $122 million of cash and net debt leverage of approximately 0.9x. The strength of our balance sheet continues to be reflected in our investment-grade credit ratings with S&P reaffirming our BBB+ rating during the quarter and Moody's reaffirming our BAA2 rating subsequent to quarter end.

Turning to capital deployment. During the quarter, we invested approximately $46 million in capital expenditures, primarily to support utility capacity expansion. We returned $97 million to shareholders through $82 million of share repurchases and $15 million of dividends. At quarter end, approximately $367 million remained available under our current share repurchase authorization. This balanced deployment of capital reflects our focus on investing in the highest return growth opportunities while maintaining financial flexibility and returning capital to shareholders.

Turning to our full year outlook on Slide 12. We are reaffirming our net sales outlook of $4.3 billion to $4.45 billion. and raising our adjusted diluted earnings per share guidance. Our infrastructure sales outlook is unchanged at $3.4 billion to $3.5 billion. It reflects favorable pricing and volume growth in North America Utility and Coatings and continued softness in telecom. Our agriculture sales outlook is also unchanged at $900 million to $950 million as current market conditions remain broadly consistent with our prior assumptions.

Looking to the fourth quarter, we expect earnings and margins to moderate from third quarter levels. Our outlook reflects increasing input cost pressures, business mix effects and the absence of certain third quarter benefits. Following the strong third quarter performance, we now expect full year adjusted diluted earnings per share of $22.75 to $23.75. Finally, our capital expenditure outlook remains unchanged at $170 million to $200 million.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Renee.

Renee Campbell

Thank you, John. At this time, the operator will open up the call for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Nathan Jones with Stifel.

Fragen und Antworten

Nathan Jones

I guess I'll start on price cost. I'm sure it's going to get a lot of attention. There's obviously been significant steel inflation, freight cost inflation, all of that kind of stuff. I wonder if you'd be able to just talk about what the impact to margins or what the impact to earnings was for that. Does it get worse in 4Q before it gets better as you start to catch up on price cost? I know we've seen this movie before with Valmont -- we know there's a lag between the cost and the price catch-up.

Just any more color you can give us around what the impact in the quarter was, what you'd expect it to be next quarter? And how much margin upside there is assuming costs stabilize at some point?

Avner Applbaum

Thank you, Nathan, for the question. So I won't go through the movie as we've seen it before, as you said. But the answer is there was impact to the margins here in Q3. They were modest impacts -- there was no, let's say, negative dollar impact to it, but there were impacts to the margins. As we look to Q4, we expect that to get a little more pressured. So what we've seen since the last earnings call is that the pace of the inflation in our input costs have accelerated. So we expect more pressure in Q4 on the margin side.

If we look further out, as you know, it usually takes 2 to 3 quarters to sort of fully pull through our price mechanisms to results in a stable environment. I'd say even if it moderates, we'll see some growth again in margins. We don't need a full stabilization, but some moderation of the pace of input costs.

Nathan Jones

I guess the other 1 I'll ask is on the ag side. Obviously, the 16% North America growth is something influenced by the storm revenue and the margins there are also impacted by storm revenue. It's much higher margin. I know -- can you talk about the impact that, that had to the quarter? Maybe what it contributed to earnings if you can break it down that far, just so we kind of have a better idea of what the underlying run rate was?

Avner Applbaum

Yes. Perfect. So Nathan, I'll start off and then I'll hand it over for John for some more detail. I think it's important to understand that when these storms occur, our farmers have choices. And they chose to come to Valmont for several reasons. One, it is a critical time for our farmers to be able to get back up and running -- and our operations team are able to manufacture and support with manufacturing these pivots, our dealers are ready to support our customers and able to get them back into Valmont's ecosystem with our technology and other offerings. So we're very pleased with our ability to support our farmers and -- which contributed strongly to our results.

And maybe, John, you add a little bit more color there.

John Schwietz

Yes, sure. To your question about the impact to revenue growth and then also the margins -- on the revenue side in North America, that was substantially responsible for the growth in North America that we saw in Q3. If we go through the margins -- so 17.9% was exceptional and exceeded our expectations. So sort of 2 areas to touch on. As we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we did have some onetime benefits in ag. It was -- it amounted to about $7 million. Those were mainly related to recoveries that we made in South America.

If we take the impact of those onetime items out, we're just north of 14% for the operating margin. And really, that was above what we had discussed in terms of low teen expectations for the second half of the year. And in that delta really is the effect of the storm, it's the effect that it's a higher mix with regards to North America better accretive and then also better pricing as well.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Tomohiko Sano with JPMorgan.

Tomohiko Sano

If you could talk about infrastructure backlog has increased to $1.8 billion -- could you break down what is driving the increase across customers? And if you could talk about competitive landscape as well from the current environment?

Avner Applbaum

Sure. So first all, the majority of the increase, majority of the backlog is related to our utility customers. Now it's important to understand the entire context is backlog is part of the equation, right? We also monitor our pipeline -- and our pipeline with our alliance customers have actually strengthened as well. And the backlog represents those orders converting from the pipeline to our backlog.

The environment continues to be extremely robust -- our customers are strengthening their order, they're increasing their spend. Our pipeline through 2029 has increased over the last several quarters. So the market continues to be extremely strong. As it relates to the competitive landscape, the industry is constrained and being the leaders in this industry with the engineers and relationship that go over for many decades. I visited, as I mentioned, I visited some of our customers, and it's clear that they come to us for our engineering expertise, for our on-time delivery for the reliability overall.

So we continue to win in this space. We're booking well into 2028. Our customers are looking for us to secure capacity -- so we're continue to see robustness in this -- in the industry.

Tomohiko Sano

And then just 1 quick follow-up on North America utility was up 23% in Q3. Could you quantify the contribution from volume versus price in -- how should we think about Q4 in your guidance?

John Schwietz

Thank you for the question. So 23% was a result we were pleased with -- so the majority of the driving factor there was volume in this case, for Q3. Although it's noteworthy that price was right at double digits as well. So both contributed. If we look at the full year, we're expecting mid-20s in terms of growth rates for utility, and we are expecting to hit our target of double-digit volume growth for the full year.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Drab with William Blair.

Brian Drab

First on the project in North Africa, congratulations on that win. Can you talk a little bit more specifically on the timing of revenue recognition there and the cadence of that? And also the margins relative to typical ag margins?

Avner Applbaum

Yes, sure. So overall, -- right now, we're expecting to start delivery on that project in the first half of 2027. It's going to be likely in 18 months, up to 2 years project. But maybe just take a step back. I mean, -- in this environment, we're very pleased on our ability to win a project in the region as well as to support it with our global footprint, we're able to support it from our from our Dubai facility as well as from other facilities around the world, which allows us to continue to support that region, which has strong demand for food security and water scarcity -- so that is a good win for the team. And so overall, I just summarize, probably go over 24 months. And John, maybe share a little bit about the margin profile.

John Schwietz

Sure, so on the margin side, we are, of course, very disciplined in our intake process as it relates to these projects. This particular project like most large projects is slightly below baseline operating profit margin but not significantly and not expected to really make an impact necessarily.

Brian Drab

Okay. And then just switching to utility. I mean you guys sounded of course, very positive on the utility outlook at the Investor Day. You sound to me, maybe even more positive now. I was a little surprised just now to hear that volume accounted for more than half of the growth in the quarter, given what's going on with price. But has your outlook become more positive, even just since the recent Investor Day? And do you have more visibility now you talked about visibility to $6.7 billion in revenue through '29. How has that number maybe changed and just the overall sentiment?

Avner Applbaum

The answer is yes. We are more confident now in our goal, and that is based on several factors. One, we're actually seeing the spend. We saw our backlog increase. The pipeline we spoke about for the $6.7 billion, that number now, of course, we're shipping against that as well, has increased, so we're getting better coverage through our 2029. And the confidence is driven based on our conversations with our customers. It's with our customer spend. It's their customers committing to them for load growth and committing to spend within.

We're seeing more in the industry around additional spend in areas like AI. We're seeing even areas that we don't talk about that much, but we're seeing that the EV spend has also increased. We're seeing more energy out of that area. As well as all the other factors of onshoring, manufacturing. Unfortunately, we've seen some storms over the last several weeks, which just emphasize a point that we need to keep on focusing on grid hardening and resiliency. So we keep our eye on the market. We're booking well into 2028.

The utility have plans going through 2030 and some conversations with the customers, our plans are going through 2032. And we've also seen that in the industry that the lead times are expanding, right? We're seeing now they're going well beyond the year where they're going to 60 and 70 weeks. So it just shows the entire strength in the market, and we're very pleased with how we're adding our capacity, supporting our customers and looking pretty positive for us.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brent Thielman with Oppenheimer & Company.

Brent Thielman

Great. Avner or John, just back on the North America utility would you expect pricing to sustain at a double-digit run rate as we go into 2027, just considering all this inflation, there seems to be a pretty significant factor to your growth rate for that business next year?

Avner Applbaum

Brent. The answer is yes. .

Brent Thielman

Okay. And then I guess, just in terms of telecom, obviously, utility is outgrowing, but any sense from customers when we might see a change? I know you mentioned that through this year. But I mean, any sort of inclines what you're hearing next year and what could be some catalysts to turn the business around?

Avner Applbaum

At Telecom, we don't have great visibility into the market. Of course, we do toss to our customers, and we are seeing that they're being more selective around their spend following the peak of the 5G rollout and some of the site modification or capital allocation moved out into 2027. So right now, we're looking to continued same environment going into 2027. We do know that they're going to spend more on the spectrum. They're waiting for some technology advancement. But overall, they need to continue their build.

So we know it's coming. It's just a matter of timing. Some indications that we see some coming back more towards the latter half of 2027. But again, we don't have great visibility. So right now, what we're doing is we're focusing on our costs. We're focusing on new product development with our customers. We're looking into other spaces like private networks. Overall, we're working on what we can control, but expect that these conditions to remain at least through the end of the year.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Moore with CJS Securities.

Christopher Moore

A couple. So maybe just 1 more on the steel catch-up. So obviously, Q3 was a little bit of pressure. Q4 is going to be a little bit more double-digit pricing is going to continue into '27. From where you sit today, assuming some normalization of steel pricing, would that imply that we start to see kind of a little bit incremental margin improvement in Q2? Or is that more back half? .

John Schwietz

Thanks for the question. So -- so the pace of margin expansion really will be defined in part by how quickly these costs continue to accelerate or stabilize -- so Q2 is a bit far for us to really tell where these costs are going to be the trajectory of these costs. What we can see is that the actions that we're taking to expand margins are taking hold. And so as you know, our focus on scaling profitably on improving operating leverage you can see improving leverage over SG&A. You can see that in the SG&A numbers that we posted here this year and in this quarter. Those things will continue to be working on to try to offset any price cost, any sort of price cost pressure that we have.

Avner Applbaum

I just want to add 1 point, which I think you know this, but as we're talking about the dislocation, which has an impact on our margins in the short term, as we look forward, right, the pricing actions we take are mostly to offset the cost. Of course, there's some margin there. But as we get into next year and we see higher pricing, that doesn't necessarily mean that's all dropping to the bottom line. That's really offsetting some of the steel costs. So the pressure right now is more of the dislocation. And as they stabilize, that's when our margins stabilize as well.

Christopher Moore

And maybe just 1 more within the competitive landscape within infrastructure. Obviously, demand is off the charts at this point in time. Just specifically, Nucor is a relatively new entrant here. Just near term, perhaps long term -- any -- do you see that as any impact on the infrastructure kind of landscape at all from where you guys are sitting at this stage?

Avner Applbaum

Yes. So we monitor capacity industry consistently. And to your point, [indiscernible], they just announced that they're going to add capacity. Even with all the capacity adds, there's still more demand than supply in the industry. So we feel very comfortable with our ability to continue to support our customers without having the industry at full capacity. But it's also important to understand that our customers and the large utility customers, they come to Valmont, not because we have 4 walls and press breaks. They come to us because of our engineering expertise for our reliability, on-time delivery and the fact that they don't want to take risk and then they come to Valmont that's 1 area that they don't have to take risk. So of course, we have our eyes on the competitors, but we feel very good that the industry continues to be well in balance and we don't have any concerns on that element.

Operator

Our next question is a follow-up from the line of Brent Thielman with Oppenheimer & Company. .

Brent Thielman

Maybe just 1 follow-up on ag. The margins has been outstanding this year, and I know there's some mix factors to that. But why wouldn't we see a carryover benefit to margins in that segment into the fourth quarter from what you saw in 3Q?

John Schwietz

Yes. Great question. Thanks, Brent. So we -- really, the story here is the mix between North America and international. So Q3, you're very familiar with, is usually a very strong international quarter. And as you saw, because of the storm demand that we had that was exceptional, it was much stronger on the North America side. And then also with that, the preferred pricing that we get in those circumstances. So that really drove a much better business mix in Q3 -- if we look to Q4, to your point, it's -- we are expecting sort of a more normal return to the business mix between North America and international, and that will put some pressures on the margins get into Q3.

Brent Thielman

Okay. And maybe if I could, just a follow-up. What -- what's been the headwind from -- I know that the issues in the Middle East, including the closure of the facility. What's been the overall headwind to the business this year just so we can kind of think about that going into 2027.

John Schwietz

Just from a numbers perspective compared to last year, you're right that it's been the Middle East. I mean the biggest delta from a top line perspective versus last year, has been the lack of project revenue through Ag this year. Other than that, it's really just been the sort of the market conditions, the soft market conditions that we see and the fact that we're we haven't quite seen line of sight yet to the recovery.

Avner Applbaum

Yes. So if you -- if you just order it right, we'd say definitely the Middle East, and then we did see continued softness in Brazil. We're North America is 1 area that we're bumping along the bottom, right? And that market keeps on kind of spring those conditions, and we've seen that in Q3. Actually, we had strength, but that's our expectation is that North America does not go further down with more upside opportunity in North American market. .

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call over to Renee Campbell for closing remarks.

Renee Campbell

Thank you for joining us today. A replay of this call will be available for playback on our website and by phone for the next 7 days. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. .

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