霸菱BDC (BBDC) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会：资产净值稳定，4亿美元CLO再融资

Barings BDC（NYSE: BBDC）公布2026年第三季度净资产价值保持稳定，且股息实现全额覆盖。投资组合增长将杠杆率推高至管理层目标区间的上限附近，同时一笔新的4亿美元CLO融资解决了公司近期最大的到期债务问题。

核心要点

• 截至2026年9月30日，每股净资产价值为10.92美元，而截至6月30日为10.94美元。
• 净投资收益为2720万美元，合每股0.26美元，完全覆盖了每股0.26美元的季度股息。
• BBDC投放了1.96亿美元的投资，并录得1.46亿美元的出售及还款，实现投资组合净增长约5000万美元。
• 按公允价值计算，投资组合规模达到约25亿美元。其债务及其他生息证券的加权平均收益率维持在10.2%。
• 按公允价值计算，非应计贷款比例升至投资组合的1.1%。若剔除通过Sierra交易收购并受信用支持协议覆盖的资产，该比例为0.7%。
• 季度结束后，BBDC完成了一笔4亿美元CLO融资的定价，拟用于偿还11月23日到期的3.5亿美元利率为3.3%的无担保票据。

关键财务数据

业务与经营表现

本季度新投资的加权平均利差为541个基点，与还款资产540个基点的利差基本相当。自季度结束以来，BBDC又投放了7360万美元的投资，几乎全部为第一顺位留置权贷款，加权平均收益率为9.1%。

管理层表示，其重点仍是核心中端市场，认为该领域的相对价值优于超大盘细分市场。投资组合以优先有担保及浮动利率资产为主，其中93%的资产采用浮动利率。

在宏观经济不确定的背景下，杠杆收购交易完成率仍处于历史低点附近。管理层表示，交易环境放缓也限制了还款速度，从而对现有借款人的经常性收入构成支撑，并创造了追加投资的机会。

风险评级迁移幅度较小。评级为4级和5级的投资（代表承压最大的类别）占投资组合的比例从上一季度的6%升至7%。BBDC约90%的投资在发起时由Barings担任牵头或联合牵头贷款人，这使该平台在协议修订和债务重组中拥有更大的影响力。

管理层展望

董事会宣布第四季度股息维持在每股0.26美元不变。管理层表示，投资组合收益以及约合每股0.80美元的结转留存收益仍对派息构成支撑，不过该余额预计将在年底前减少。

BBDC预计第四季度净杠杆率将向约1.15倍至1.16倍靠拢。预期的杠杆率下降主要将来自还款以及可能向其合资公司出售投资组合资产。

管理层的基准预测是第四季度投资利差将维持在第三季度水平附近。然而，管理层承认，针对数量有限的杠杆收购交易的竞争加剧，可能会在2026年末或2027年初对利差造成一定程度的挤压。

公司还在考虑退出Security Holdings，可能在2027年第一季度实施。管理层表示，将该非生息股权头寸的变现资金再投资于生息资产，有助于抵消更高的再融资成本。

风险与关注领域

新CLO的加权平均利率为SOFR加164个基点，大幅高于被再融资票据3.3%的固定利率。管理层预计浮动利率投资组合以及Security Holdings变现资金的潜在再投资将有助于消化利息成本的增加，但也表示未来的信用问题可能会影响分红能力。公司明确表示，如有必要宁可下调股息，也不会通过消耗净资产价值来维持派息。

实物支付（PIK）利息收入也有所增加。管理层将这一变动主要归因于Policy Services，这是一家因佛罗里达州保单定价走弱而受影响的非标车险公司。BBDC在本季度允许该借款人以实物形式支付利息，以便在评估后续应对方案的同时保留流动性。PIK利息总收入中约有60%是在贷款发起时设立的，而40%则源于涉及出现信用问题借款人的协议修订。

私募股权持有期延长以及所谓的“僵尸基金”仍是另一项隐忧。管理层表示，投资结果越来越取决于发起人的可用资金、运营资源以及对被投企业的支持意愿。临近2028年和2029年的债务集中到期高峰可能需要进行展期、再融资或更积极的债务重组。

BBDC还表示，其投资组合直接面临的AI颠覆风险有限。在BBDC的中端市场企业信贷投资范围内，管理层不打算涉足专门的AI相关策略，例如新型云服务商（neocloud）发行人、芯片资产支持融资或数据中心房地产。

分析师问答要点

• 股息可持续性：管理层预计CLO交易后将面临更高的再融资成本，但认为浮动利率资产收益以及Security Holdings变现资金的潜在再投资有望带来抵消。信用状况恶化仍是影响股息的主要下行风险。
• 杠杆率：由于存在有吸引力的资金投放机会以及预期还款具有确定性，BBDC在第三季度特意将杠杆率维持在目标区间上限附近。管理层的目标是在年底前将杠杆率降至约1.15倍至1.16倍。
• PIK收入：Policy Services是本季度增长的主要驱动因素。管理层认为该借款人所处的市场具有周期性，并允许其实施PIK支付以保留流动性。
• ECLIPSE投资：管理层继续将ECLIPSE视为长期、逆周期的资产担保贷款（ABL）风险敞口。BBDC目前没有扩大该头寸规模的计划。
• 贷款人控制权：在BBDC约90%的投资中，Barings均担任牵头或联合牵头贷款人，管理层认为这增强了其影响协议修订、到期展期及清收结果的能力。

财报电话会议完整实录

完整财报电话会议逐字稿

管理层陈述

Operator

At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Barings BDC, Inc. conference call for the quarter ended September 30, 2026. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available approximately 2 hours after the conclusion of the call on the company's website under the Investor Relations section.

Please note that this call may contain forward-looking statements that include statements regarding the company's goals, beliefs, strategies, future operating. Although the company believes these statements are reasonable, actual results could differ materially from those projected in forward-looking statements. These statements are based on various underlying assumptions and are subject to numerous uncertainties and risks, including those disclosed under the sections titled Risk Factors and Forward-Looking Statements in the company's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2026, and in other filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Barings BDC undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements unless required by law.

I will now turn the call over to Tom McDonnell, Chief Executive Officer of Barings BDC.

Thomas McDonnell

Thanks, operator, and good morning, everyone. On the call today, I'm joined by Barings BDC's President and Co-Portfolio Manager; Matt Freund; and BBDC's Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, Elizabeth Murray. I will begin with a brief overview of the quarter and then frame how we are viewing the market. Matt will follow with a more detailed discussion of the private credit environment, and Elizabeth will walk through our financial results.

Net asset value per share was $10.92 as of September 30, largely unchanged from $10.94 as of June 30. We remain active on the deployment front during the quarter. BBDC funded $196 million of investments, including 20 new portfolio companies and had $146 million of sales and repayments, resulting in net portfolio growth of approximately $50 million. The investment portfolio increased to approximately $2.5 billion at fair value, and the weighted average yield on debt and other income-producing securities was 10.2%, flat compared to the prior quarter. All told, the combination of a largely stable NAV and the strength of the underlying earnings profile of the portfolio produced a strong quarter.

During the quarter, we also continued to strengthen the balance sheet. Subsequent to quarter end, we addressed our November notes maturity ahead of schedule with a new CLO financing. Elizabeth will take you through the details, but I want to put it in context. Over the past several years, we have deliberately built the capital structure designed to hold up through a full cycle. A latter maturity profile access to multiple funding markets and revolver capacity to support our borrowers and pipeline. With this transaction behind us, our team can stay focused on investing and portfolio management.

Credit performance remains a key area of focus across the private credit market. For BBDC, nonaccruals increased modestly this quarter. But when excluding assets covered by the Sierra CSA, nonaccruals remain below 1% of the portfolio at fair value at 0.7%, and weighted average interest coverage remains healthy at 2.6x. We are actively managing each of these situations with a focus on maximizing recoveries.

One of the themes we have emphasized this year has been our expectation of greater manager dispersion in private credit. And we believe that dispersion is now clearly underway. For several years, abundant capital and benign credit backdrop allowed most managers to post similar results, masking meaningful differences in underwriting discipline. That is changing. As idiosyncratic credit issues surface and sponsors extend hold periods, differences in nonaccrual trends, NAV stability, dividend coverage and recovery outcomes are becoming more visible across the industry, and we expect that gap to widen as the cycle matures. Manager selection, underwriting, portfolio construction and workout experience matters.

In our views, the managers have performed from here will be distinguished by a few things. The quality of underwriting and documentation at origination, the depth of sponsor relationships when portfolio companies need additional support, disciplined diversification and position sizing and the experience and resources to work through stressed credits when they arise. These are not capabilities that can be built quickly in response to a turn in the cycle. Barings has invested through multiple credit cycles and the credit metrics I just described reflect that approach. We believe investors will increasingly differentiate between managers on these factors and that BBDC will benefit from that scrutiny.

With that overview, I will turn the call over to Matt to discuss the market backdrop and the BDC portfolio in more detail.

Matthew Freund

Thanks, Tom. After our first half of 2026 marked by a heightened scrutiny of private credit, investors are coming back to direct lending. The reasons are simple, and are the same ones that have drawn capital to the asset class for years, attractive income, diversification and defensive characteristics. Capital formation across the Barings platform was strong in the third quarter.

As BBDC shareholders know, we focus on the core of the middle market. We believe this segment is less competitive than the mega cap segment that has drawn so much attention during the past few years. Pricing in our core area of focus continue to offer compelling relative value compared to other credit strategies. New investments in the third quarter carried a weighted average spread of 541 basis points, in line with 540 basis points on repayments. That momentum has continued in the fourth quarter. And since quarter end, we have closed and funded $73.6 million of new investments, almost entirely first lien at a weighted average yield of 9.1%.

The scale of our existing portfolio and the breadth of our origination platform give us confidence that we can keep finding compelling risk-adjusted returns. The Barings Global Private Finance platform has deployed more capital year-to-date than it has at this point in 2025. Even so, buyout close rates are still near all-time lows as an uncertain macro backdrop keeps buyers cautious. Our pipeline is robust, but we expect the share of deals that close to stay low by historical standards. There is an upside to this dynamic. Slower deal activity also means lower repayments, which gives us a stable base of existing issuers. Our incumbent positions become a durable source of income and add-on opportunities.

Like many in our industry, we are paying close attention to private equity hold period and the rise of so-called zombie funds. In this environment, the quality of the sponsor matters more than ever. When an exit flips by 2 or 3 years, the outcome depends on whether the sponsor has capital, operating resources and willingness to keep supporting the company. It also depends on whether we have the kind of relationship that allows candid early conversations when plans change. Our portfolio is built around sponsors we have worked with through multiple cycles and that history is often what separates a constructive amendment from a contentious workout. In many instances, extending maturities to align with a sponsor's extended hold horizon may create an optimal outcome for all parties, but that is not always the case.

As we approach the maturity walls of 2028 and 2029, investors will be closely evaluating how lenders engage on these opportunities. Underlying all of this, our decisions at Barings start with capital preservation. Our portfolio continues to highlight why selectivity matters. Risk rating migration was modest this quarter. Investments rated 4 and 5, which is where we see the most stress, rose slightly to 7% of the portfolio from 6% last quarter. As Tom mentioned, weighted average interest coverage remained healthy at 2.6x. Nonaccruals ticked up modestly to 11 portfolio companies or 1.1% of the portfolio at fair value.

Excluding nonaccrual assets acquired in the Sierra transaction, which are covered by a credit support agreement, nonaccruals were 0.7% at fair value. We don't want to minimize the work these underperforming positions require. We are actively managing each of them with a focus on maximizing recoveries, preserving optionality and protecting shareholder value. AI remains a focus for our investors in every asset class. Early questions about direct lending centered on the stress and volatility AI could create for existing borrowers. As we said before, our internal analysis and discussions with industry experts show that BBDC's portfolio has very limited direct exposure to AI disruption. The longer-term effects on every industry are still unclear, but we are comfortable with the direct AI exposure and our current issuer base.

More recently, investors have asked whether we would pursue AI-related investments such as needle cloud issuers, ABS chip financing and data center real estate within the context of BBDC. To be clear, we do not believe that these strategies fit within BBDC's expected guidelines. BBDC exists to provide corporate credit exposure to middle market companies and the opportunity within that mandate is enormous. There are certainly attractive investments in the AI ecosystem, but investors should not look to BBDC for that risk profile.

To sum up, credit requires active management, and we remain focused on a small number of specific situations. Overall, the portfolio is diversified senior secured floating rate and positioned to generate attractive current income.

And with that, I will turn the call over to Elizabeth.

Elizabeth Murray

Thanks, Matt. As Tom mentioned, the third quarter was a steady one. And subsequent to quarter end, we took a significant step in our liability management strategy with the pricing of a $400 million CLO financing, which I will cover in some detail. I'll begin with our financial results and key balance sheet metrics for the third quarter.

Turning first to our results. NAV per share at September 30 was $10.92 and compared to $10.94 at June 30. The modest decline was driven by net realized losses of approximately $0.05, partially offset by net unrealized appreciation of approximately $0.02 per share while NII fully covered the dividend. Net investment income was $27.2 million or $0.26 per share compared to $0.28 last quarter. The decrease is primarily due to lower dividend income from certain equity positions that made elevated distributions in the second quarter and an increase in the income-based incentive fee.

NII of $0.26 per share covered our third quarter dividend of $0.26 per share, and year-to-date, NII has fully covered our dividend. We continue to maintain undistributed taxable deliver income of approximately $0.80 per share, and our Board declared a fourth quarter dividend of $0.26 per share, unchanged from the prior quarter. Looking ahead, we believe that the dividend remains well supported. Our predominantly floating rate portfolio benefits from the recent rise in base rates, which we expect to help offset the higher cost of refinancing or 3.3% notes.

Together with our spillover income, we believe we are well positioned to maintain this $0.26 quarterly dividend, and we'll continue to evaluate dividend levels as conditions evolve.

Moving to portfolio valuations and realized activity, net realized losses for the quarter were primarily associated with the exit of Varian and Biolam were largely offset by the reversal of previously reported unrealized depreciation. Net unrealized appreciation reflects gains in our foreign currency positions and hedges, which more than offset modest net depreciation on the portfolio, including markdowns on a small number of names.

Turning now to the CLO financing that Tom mentioned. As many investors are focused on our $350 million of 3.3% unsecured notes mature on November 23. On October 30, we priced a $400 million DLA financing, which we intend to use to fund the repayment of those notes at maturity. The CLO is expected to close mid-November and the floating rate notes carrying a weighted average interest rate of SOFR plus 164. Strategically, the transaction remains our largest near-term refinancing risk ahead of maturity as long-dated floating rig funding that is well matched to our 93% floating rate portfolio, diversifies our funding base and preserves revolver capacity for new investments and unfunded commitments. Because the 3.3% notes were issued at a very different rate environment, any refinancing will carry a higher cost. We believe the CLO is attractive relative to the alternatives available today.

Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with net leverage, which is defined as regulatory leverage net of unrestricted cash and net unsettled transactions of 1.24x and up from 1.18x at June 30, driven by net portfolio growth during the quarter as we funded $196 million of investments against $146 million for payments and sales. Leverage remains within our target range of 0.9x to 1.25x. We were comfortable operating toward the upper end of the range this quarter given the attractive investment opportunities we were seeing. And because we have visibility into a repayment pipeline, that we expected to be weighted toward year-end.

Looking ahead, we expect leverage to move back toward the middle of our target range by year-end driven by anticipated sales of portfolio investments to our joint venture with Dakas and expected repayments. Approximately 77% of our debt was unsecured at quarter end. That percentage will decline as we address our maturities to approximately 53% pro forma for the CLA. We believe that trade-off is the right one. And following the refinancing, our next maturity will not be until November 2027.

In closing, the third quarter delivered stable earnings in NAV with the pricing of our CLA, we have addressed our November maturity while further diversifying our funding sources. We believe our balance sheet is well positioned as we head into 2027.

And with that, I'll turn the call back to the operator.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Robert Dodd from Raymond James.

分析师问答

Robert Dodd

Congrats on the quarter, I mean, a very nice stable quarter. No surprises what BBDC investors want to see. A couple of questions. [indiscernible] really well, it's a quarter, but kind of topics you brought up. I think Matt said that sometimes it makes sense to extend the maturity on an outstanding loan to match up to the expected kind of exit for a sponsor, which makes a lot of sense, right? You don't want to extend beyond the sponsor's fund life necessarily or be sure. I mean how would you characterize the portfolio maturities today versus the expected sponsor fund life?

Because that also kind of ties in with 1 of your comments, Tom, the strength of the sponsor relationship and do they actually have the capital to support a business if it has issues. I mean it's all that together in the same kind of concept of where are you relative to the equity holder in the positions just like expected life in the portfolio. And that was a bit of a rampant question.

Matthew Freund

Yes. Robert, thanks for the question. I appreciate you dialing in this morning. And so I think that you're touching on a theme that is very top of mind for us as we evaluate any request to modify the duration of an existing position. And so maybe let me just offer a couple of statistics for you to reinforce how we're thinking about that. And so within the BBDC portfolio, approximately 8% of the underlying investments have a stated maturity. The largest 1 is actually an affiliate in security holdings. And so obviously, we have a lot of control over that structure itself. And then as we kick through the other hands full, we have reasons to believe that either sale processes are underway and/or the sponsors are looking on refinancing options where we've declined to provide incremental flexibility.

And so it's something that is incredibly important for us as we think about managing the duration of the book as well as candidly working towards a credit risk profile that we think is appropriate for our underlying LPs. And as part of that evaluation, the underlying fund life, the sponsor characteristics, where the sponsors are in their fundraising capacities, all inform the degree of receptivity that we have whenever these kinds of requests are making their way through our respective committees.

Robert Dodd

Got it. That's very helpful. Another 1 also kind of related to a comment made rather than the actual quarter. On the diversification side, obviously, the BBDC portfolio is not generally the control investor. That doesn't mean bearing system though, right? So could you give us any color? I mean, obviously, as you point out, credit trends are kind of, I think, going to be the key diversifier over the next several years and being in control of a process or at very least, being at the top table on a process can have a significant influence on an outcome there. So what proportion of the portfolio today, and I probably knew this 2 years ago, but what proportion of the portfolio today, are you bearing not necessarily BBDC, the control investor or control lender in a position. .

Thomas McDonnell

Yes, Robert. Yes, roughly 90% of our investments were either the lead or co-lead. And you're exactly right, being in that position, it does allow us to, in effect, somewhat control the outcome and help us inform decisions as to whether or not we want to extend the runway for the sponsor, et cetera. So I think, again, that's extremely important as we work through some of these situations and certainly being in that position gives us, like I said, that element of control, which we think is really important as we move forward.

Robert Dodd

Got it. I appreciate it. And again, congrats on the quarter. .

Thomas McDonnell

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question today is coming from Finian O'Shea from Wells Fargo.

Finian O'Shea

I wanted to ask about ECLIPSE. It's a several -- 5 to 10 or so years, I think, since you bought it from another private equity firm just seeing where that sort of is and it's sort of half-life under your stewardship. Is it something you continue to seek to grow over the long term or maybe move out of?

Thomas McDonnell

Yes. Fin, great question. I appreciate you dialing in this morning. So ECLIPSE, the reason that ECLIPSE exists within this portfolio is to provide a combination of compelling kind of risk-adjusted return to the underlying shareholders, but also to provide a little bit of countercyclical exposure in the context of cash flow lending. It's longer in our belief that asset-based strategies are likely to outperform if and when broad-based cash flow strategy experienced a little bit of a wobble. And we have seen that in origination pipelines of the respective business units over the course of the past couple of years, where whenever we start to experience periods of economic volatility, Eclipse has really attractive opportunities for deployment. And perhaps interestingly, we're on the precipice of 1 of those periods now based on recent conversations we've had with the management team there.

In terms of our expected hold horizon, it's an asset that we have long patched as being willing and able to hold into perpetuity. I do think that over periods of time, different shareholder expectations they evolve and different return expectations on a forward basis may change. But as we sit here today, in October of 2026, we don't have any change of our plans with respect to the ownership structure as it exists.

Matthew Freund

Yes. Fin, I would just say we don't expect our investment there to increase in size. So it's going to be a sizable position here. But again, it's been 1 that's been a great performer for us, but not 1 we intend on increasing exposure and BBDC with.

Finian O'Shea

Okay. Great. Can you guys update us on your spillover?

Elizabeth Murray

Yes, Fin, the spillover this quarter is about $0.80. And I anticipate that will likely decrease as we're heading at year-end. But we feel comfortable with where it is. And it's something that we monitor, but we feel comfortable with where it is and comfortable with where our dividend is at this point.

Finian O'Shea

How will it decrease? .

Elizabeth Murray

There's just some various book-to-tax differences relative to our 2025 return that will flow through in the fourth quarter.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Jason Stewart from Compass Point.

Jason Stewart

In terms of leverage and portfolio repayment activity, I guess just wondered if you could clarify, I get about $0.01 of fee income from repayments in the third quarter, that seems right to you. If you could just clarify that. And then is it your expectation that repayment activity is going to stay somewhat elevated in the fourth quarter? Or do you see opportunities for back leverage to bring leverage down? .

Thomas McDonnell

Yes. No. So I think, yes, we do expect repayments in the fourth quarter to be basically flat at this point. So we did run leverage a little higher in the third quarter, as you can see there. that was done on purpose with visibility towards a flattish repayment. We also, as you know, have the ability to sell loans down to [indiscernible] and we did not do that in the third quarter. we anticipate likely doing that in the fourth quarter. So as we've stated our target leverage, we look to bring that down probably to the 1.15, 1.16x as we move through the fourth quarter, something very similar that we did last year at this time as well.

Jason Stewart

Okay. And then just looking at spreads on new investments versus repayments that were basically flat this quarter. Any thoughts on where that's trending into the end of the year?

Thomas McDonnell

Yes. I think that if we look at the trended spreads over the course of the past 6 quarters, there was certainly an opportunity for more spread in Q1 and Q2 in light of broader private credit volatility. And I would say that, that has started to normalize in Q3. Our base case at this point is going to be that spread levels look very similar in Q4 as they did this particular quarter, but I would acknowledge that it wouldn't surprise me if a limited amount of LBO activity increases a bit of competition, and we could see a little bit of a narrowing of spreads as we move into the end of the year and the beginning of 2027. But very few data points to evidence that at this stage.

Operator

Next question is coming from Derek Hewett from Bank of America.

Derek Hewett

So PIC increased about to 10% of revenue from a little over 7% last quarter. Could you provide any additional color on that movement? And then just overall, what percentage of PIC revenue was built into the original underwrite versus amendment PIC?

Matthew Freund

Yes, sure. Thanks, Derek. Yes. And so really that for us really results from 1 investment called Policy Services. It's a nonstandard auto insurer investment that we have. And really, the market for that is primarily based in Florida. So just seeing a real softening in the rates that they charge on their insurance policies. It's really had an impact on the company's revenue and EBITDA line items. And we made the decision to allow them to pick interest for that third quarter in an effort to preserve liquidity and evaluate some of our options there. So we thought that was the prudent thing to do.

I will note that company in that market has a 40-year history of having a balance of volatility, if you will. And so quite a cyclical industry, and we do believe, ultimately, we feel like we bottomed out in terms of rate and win rate and buying rate there, and we do believe ultimately that, that will come back. But we thought it would be the prudent thing to do to have that go on pick for the quarter as we evaluate our options.

And then in terms of your question on, I think you're probably referring to whether good PIC, bad PIC overall the portfolio. Roughly 60% of the PIC in that line item is that which was structured at origination. And I would say 40% of that line item will be things we've had to do in terms of working with some of our investments that had credit issues. And so called out a kind of a 60-40 split between good and bad PIC.

Derek Hewett

Okay. And in terms of my follow-up, could you provide additional color on the dividend sustainability, just given that you're going to have some headwinds from a funding cost perspective as those low-cost bonds get refinanced? And then also in your analysis, are you assuming any additional movements in SOFR?

Elizabeth Murray

Yes. So Derek, it's a great question. It's something that we're spending a lot of time on currently with our modeling. And yes, good point top of mind for me is the fact that our funding costs do increase because we're moving from a 3.3% fixed to closer to SOFR to $1.64. The other thing that we're taking into account that both Matt and Tom have discussed in the past is the fact that we're in the process and looking to exit security holdings likely in the first quarter of 2027. And that currently is a big equity position that really doesn't generate any income producing it's not really income producing.

And so as that we're able to turn around and invest that into income-producing assets, that should help offset the higher funding cost. At the same time, if there are credit issues of any kind in the future, that could impact the dividend this point, we don't anticipate that. But if there are any -- and to your point, we do believe the uplift and where rates are going, could have a positive impact. I say all this that if for whatever reason there are credit issues, we will not we will decrease the dividend if we have to. We will not eat into NAV just to preserve a dividend.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Tom for any further closing comments.

Thomas McDonnell

All right. Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. This was a quarter in which we earned our dividend, kept NAV stable addressed our largest debt maturity ahead of schedule. We believe the dispersion emerging across private credit will increasingly reward disciplined managers, and we intend to be 1 of them. We look forward to updating you next quarter.

Operator

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