欧励隆 (OEC) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会:自由现金流4600万美元,上调EBITDA指引
欧励隆2026年第三季度调整后EBITDA为6700万美元,同比增长16%,包含约1700万美元的欧盟排放配额时间差收益。自由现金流达4600万美元,净杠杆率降至4.1倍。特种业务与橡胶业务调整后EBITDA分别增长18%和15%,但受客户去库存影响销量均下滑。管理层上调全年调整后EBITDA指引中值,维持自由现金流指引,预计2027年调整后EBITDA将进一步增长且自由现金流转正。
核心要点
- 欧励隆(Orion S.A.,NYSE: OEC)录得调整后EBITDA 6700万美元(2026年第三季度),同比增长16%,其中包括约1700万美元的净收益,这主要源于年度欧盟排放配额的入账时间差。
- 自由现金流达到4600万美元,得益于营运资金改善举措及资本支出环比减少。净杠杆率降至4.1倍,低于上一季度的4.4倍。
- 今年迄今调整后EBITDA为1.71亿美元。管理层上调了全年调整后EBITDA指引中值,并将指引区间向此前预期的高端收窄。
- 特种业务调整后EBITDA同比增长18%至2500万美元,而橡胶业务调整后EBITDA增长15%至4100万美元。受客户谨慎态度及去库存影响,两大业务板块的销量均出现下滑。
- 公司重申了全年自由现金流指引,2026年资本支出目标依然为9000万美元,较2025年减少了7000万美元。
- 管理层预计2027年调整后EBITDA将进一步增长且自由现金流转正,这得益于原材料采购、制造效率提升、工厂运行可靠性、产品结构优化以及营运资金管理措施的支撑。
关键财务数据
| 指标 | 2026年第三季度业绩 | 变动或背景说明 |
|---|---|---|
| 调整后EBITDA | 6700万美元 | 同比增长16%;其中包括约1700万美元的欧盟排放配额时间差收益 |
| 剔除时间差影响后的调整后EBITDA | 约5000万美元 | 管理层估算,若年度欧盟排放配额确认更为均衡时的数值 |
| 今年迄今调整后EBITDA | 1.71亿美元 | 未受到排放配额时间差错配的重大影响 |
| 自由现金流 | 4600万美元 | 得益于营运资金改善及资本支出环比下降 |
| 特种业务调整后EBITDA | 2500万美元 | 同比增长18% |
| 特种业务销量 | — | 同比下降8% |
| 橡胶业务调整后EBITDA | 4100万美元 | 同比增长15% |
| 橡胶业务销量 | — | 同比下降4% |
| 净负债 | 9.18亿美元 | 截至季度末 |
| 净杠杆率 | 4.1倍 | 较2026年第二季度的4.4倍有所改善 |
| 总流动性 | 1.93亿美元 | 截至季度末 |
| 2026年资本支出目标 | 9000万美元 | 较2025年减少7000万美元 |
业务与运营表现
特种业务
特种业务调整后EBITDA升至2500万美元,主要得益于更优的产品组合(包括服务于涂料以及电线电缆市场的高端牌号产品)以及原材料顺价效应。
需求环比走弱,销量录得同比下降8%。欧励隆表示,西方市场在聚合物和分销渠道的疲软最为明显。管理层将这一压力归因于去库存,因为客户在油基原料价格波动的背景下试图降低高成本库存。
今年迄今特种业务调整后EBITDA接近9200万美元,增长约2500万美元,增幅为37%(较上年同期)。更有利的产品组合以及原材料顺价效应是主要驱动因素。
橡胶业务
橡胶业务调整后EBITDA增至4100万美元。欧盟排放配额确认时间差及原材料顺价效应,足以抵消年度合同定价下降和不利区域组合带来的负面影响。
销量录得同比下降4%。EMEA地区需求的微幅走强被美洲和亚太地区的下滑所抵消。管理层表示,EMEA地区的替换胎需求依然保持韧性,而北美轮胎生产率尚未恢复。
欧励隆还报告称现货市场需求持续存在,尤其是在北美市场。管理层将其中很大一部分需求归因于其他供应商的非计划停产。
现金流与资产负债表
创造现金流仍是欧励隆的首要财务任务,自由现金流将用于偿还债务。营运资金的改善举措包括重新调整付款条款以及持续维持较低的库存水平。
季度末后,欧励隆平仓了与其欧洲定期贷款相关的有利跨币种和利率互换协议,变现了2700万美元的合约内含价值。
管理层指引
管理层上调了欧励隆2026年全年调整后EBITDA指引的中值,并将该区间向此前预测的高端收窄。财报电话会议中未透露调整后的具体区间。
公司维持了全年自由现金流指引。管理层表示,若非油价因素影响,本会提高该区间的下限。
公司继续预计2026年资本支出为9000万美元。资本支出将进一步优先投向欧励隆收益贡献最高资产的运行可靠性提升。
管理层预计,由于显著的季节性、客户去库存以及计划内检修活动,第四季度两大业务板块的业绩均将走软。其中大约75%的检修影响预计发生在特种业务,25%发生在橡胶业务。橡胶业务还将面临约1000万美元的年度合同定价逆风,与前几个季度保持一致。
尽管尚未出台正式的2027年指引,但管理层预计明年调整后EBITDA将实现增长且自由现金流转正。预期的驱动因素包括采购节约、替代原料认证、制造效率提升、运行可靠性改善、产品结构升级以及营运资金的进一步优化。
风险与关注要点
- 欧盟排放配额时间差:第三季度调整后EBITDA业绩中包含约1700万美元的时间差收益,但该收益并不影响自由现金流。
- 去库存:由于油基原料价格波动,客户目前维持低库存策略且预测周期较短。
- 第四季度季节性与检修:高于往常的检修活动预计将对两大板块造成拖累,尤其是特种业务。
- 合同定价:橡胶业务较低的年度合同定价依然构成同比逆风。
- 区域需求:尽管轮胎进口有所减少,但北美轮胎生产尚未出现复苏。
- 油价波动:管理层表示,价格波动可能会推迟客户采购,不过油价走低最终可能利好消费者。
分析师问答环节要点
管理层表示,第四季度的疲软主要反映了客户的谨慎态度、去库存以及计划内的装置检修,而非特种业务出现了新的利润率问题。进入年底,客户给出的预测周期较短,并对库存水平保持谨慎。
在去库存方面,欧励隆认为在欧洲进一步降低安全库存仍有一定空间。由于现货需求更强,管理层在美洲地区持更为审慎的态度。
大约50%的欧励隆面向轮胎行业的橡胶业务销售签订了合同。管理层表示,公司正在争取其认为合理的2027年定价;如果双方在合同预期上分歧过大,可能会保留部分供应量转入现货市场。
管理层观察到,贸易措施出台后进口轮胎数量显著下降,但表示这尚未转化为轮胎本土产量的增长。预计随着当前去库存进程告一段落,这一提振效应将在2027年变得更加明显。
在美洲地区本土生产与进口之间的平衡更趋常态化的情况下,管理层估计各业务板块的调整后EBITDA有望增加约5000万至1亿美元(随时间推移逐步释放)。
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管理层陈述
Operator
Greetings. Welcome to the Orion S.A. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Chris Kapsch, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, Chris. You may begin
Christopher Kapsch
Thank you, Dylan. Good morning, everyone. This is Chris Kapsch, VP of Investor Relations at Orion, and welcome to our Third Quarter 2026 Earning Conference discussion. With me in this call are Corning Painter, Orion's Chief Executive Officer; and Jon Puckett, our Chief Financial Officer. We issued our third quarter results yesterday after the markets closed, and we have posted a slide presentation to the Investor Relations section of our website.
We will be referencing this deck during the call. Before we begin, we are once again obligated to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and our actual results may differ from those described during the call. In addition, all forward-looking statements are made as of today, November 5, 2026.
Orion is not obligated to update any forward-looking statements based on new circumstances or revised expectations. Any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the tables attached to our press release and/or the quarterly earnings deck. Any non-GAAP financial measures presented in these materials should not be considered as alternatives to financial measures required by GAAP. With that, I'll turn the call over to Corning.
Corning Painter
Good morning, and thank you all for joining us. Cutting right to the chase, on Slide 3 of the deck, we delivered [Technical Difficulty] adjusted EBITDA, and we generated $46 million of free cash flow in the third quarter. Upfront, we're flagging a benefit in Q3 results associated with timing of our European emission allowances, which were only finalized and issued during Q3 as we indicated would be the case earlier this year. The delay in recognizing these credits resulted from the EU having missed their own statutory deadline to agree on new industry benchmarks. These are now established and set for the next 5 years.
Because allowance credits are issued on an annual basis, their recognition in Q3 results have an outsized benefit this quarter. It's cleaner to look at our year-to-date adjusted EBITDA of $171 million, which largely balances out Q3 with the absence of these belated credits earlier in the year. The net of all of this has always been in our full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance. Importantly, all of this [Technical Difficulty] free cash flow, which was excellent in the quarter, an accomplishment considering the elevated oil prices. At quarter's end, our net leverage was 4.1x, down 30 basis points from last quarter.
Reflecting our performance to date, we are increasing the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance range. We're also reaffirming our full year free cash flow guidance, implying positive free cash flow against what we will represent -- what we believe will represent trough earnings in spite of the recent oil price volatility. Looking forward, and though too early to establish formal 2027 guidance, we do expect to deliver higher adjusted EBITDA next year as well as positive free cash flow.
We confidently make this statement based on numerous actions we are taking to improve results highlighted on Slide 4 of the deck. We view today's uncertain backdrop as creating opportunity for companies that are nimble, and we are leveraging our agility to do just that for Orion.
First on this list is safety. We have a deep safety culture at Orion. Through October, we are on track for another year of industry-leading safety performance, including no lost [Technical Difficulty] proud of the Orion organization for their vigilance on this core principle. We're also advancing on quality. [Technical Difficulty] International Automotive Task Force certification at our conductive facility in Europe. IATF certification is the gold standard for automotive in verifying quality management systems.
In our case, this recognition has also been a catalyst to optimize the customer mix served out of this facility as wire and cable and battery customers are essentially competing for product allocation. More broadly, we have executed on a variety of actions that are improving our regional competitiveness. A procurement initiative focused on feedstocks is a prime example.
The tumultuous backdrop with oil price volatility has created many cross currents and relative disparities across a variety of feedstock categories and supply chains. At Orion, we are turning this dynamic into opportunity. We have a sharp regional focus on sourcing, including the qualification of alternative feedstocks, which is yielding not just procurement savings, but yield improvements and net productivity as well.
These efforts are a growing contributor to our P&L, especially in this time of global supply chain disruption, and we expect to build on this in 2027. Within operations, we know we have significant margin expansion potential. And our manufacturing excellence program continues to expand. We are replicating early successes at select plants to other manufacturing sites globally and anticipate broader efficiency gains to contribute to our profit recovery story.
And as mentioned last quarter, improving our overall plant reliability is an enabler for the ongoing structural improvements in our working capital. With these improvements, we still expect positive free cash flow this year in spite of significantly higher oil prices from a year ago. We continue to identify fresh opportunities to improve overall free cash flow, which will be directed towards debt reduction.
One lever to improve free cash flow conversion, of course, is capital expenditures, and you should expect further prioritization of our CapEx spending on reliability at our highest contributing assets. Another lever is working capital. Here, a recalibration of both our payment terms and sustained lower inventory levels have been important factors in driving improvement. We're also taking a fresh look at cash tax optimization. Collectively, all of these efforts are gaining traction, and we expect further impact in 2027.
Finally, we continue to evaluate our production network for additional opportunities. Looking at the industry backdrop, tire imports to the U.S. and Europe are down. Today's duties are having an impact and potentially more are coming. For instance, the EU announced incremental duties related to the anti-subsidization investigation of Chinese tires will go into effect next month. In the U.S., the United Steelworkers Union has petitioned for additional relief from tire imports under Section 201. And even the recent surge in Chinese feedstock and carbon black costs could help these dynamics. [Technical Difficulty] trends in the appendix. But to be clear, we are focused on our self-help measures that we control. With that high-level overview, let me turn the call over to Jon to discuss Q3 results in more detail.
Jonathan Puckett
Thanks, Corning. On Slide 5, let me call your attention to the takeaway at the bottom of this page. As we've reiterated, and let me be clear here, our entire organization is focused on improving cash flow. And our #1 financial priority right now is generating cash for the purpose of debt reduction and deleveraging. So we are extremely pleased with our $46 million of free cash flow generation in the quarter, especially considering oil price volatility.
Clearly, our working capital improvement initiatives are making a difference and moving the needle, and that is evident in the [Technical Difficulty] ratio, which also improved to 4.1x from 4.4x last quarter. Back to the top of the slide. Adjusted EBITDA was $67 million during Q3, up 16% year-over-year. As Corning mentioned, our adjusted EBITDA includes the annual EU emission allowances that we received in the third quarter.
The nature of the EU emission allowances requires that we recognize the allowances upon receiving them from the EU rather than accruing for them throughout the year. As this annual allowance is tied directly to our European plant production levels, which is essentially run 24/7 and for which [Technical Difficulty] there is an inherent timing mismatch between [Technical Difficulty] This timing mismatch resulted in approximately $17 million of net benefit to our adjusted EBITDA in Q3.
To put the quarterly timing impact in perspective, if the benefit of the annual EU emissions allowances were recognized more evenly throughout the year, our third quarter adjusted EBITDA would have been closer to $50 million, while our first half adjusted EBITDA would have been about $10 million higher. Importantly, our year-to-date adjusted EBITDA of $171 million is not materially affected by this timing difference.
Similarly, our implied fourth quarter guidance would be about $5 million higher absent the timing impact associated with the recognition of these allowances. This is purely a P&L timing issue and has no impact on our free cash flow metrics. On Slide 6, our Specialty segment adjusted EBITDA of $25 million increased 18% year-over-year in Q3, primarily on favorable mix with strength from premium grades serving the coatings and the wire and cable markets, coupled with the combined [Technical Difficulty] pass-through effect. Specialty demand [Technical Difficulty] sequentially during Q3 and declined 8% on a year-over-year basis.
Western region demand softened, most notably in polymers and distribution channels. We believe customers are destocking in these regions as their procurement priorities have shifted from security of supply [Technical Difficulty] high-cost inventory as the Middle East conflict continues to create volatility in oil-based feedstocks. Year-to-date, Specialty segment adjusted EBITDA of nearly $92 million is up approximately $25 million or 37% compared to the prior year, with favorable mix and the pass-through effect of raw materials representing the largest drivers of year-over-year improvement.
Just a little bit of forward-looking commentary here. We expect modest specialty results in Q4 on more pronounced fourth quarter seasonality and destocking. We also expect heavier-than-normal turnaround activity and associated costs in Q4 as we moved turnarounds to later in the year to take advantage of demand strength earlier in the year. Regarding 2027, we have several levers to drive Specialty segment performance. These include upgrading our product mix, sourcing [Technical Difficulty] initiatives.
On Slide 7, our Rubber segment adjusted EBITDA of $41 million increased 15% year-over-year in Q3. The combined effect of emission allowance timing and the pass-through effect from higher raw materials more than offset lower annual contract pricing and unfavorable regional mix. Rubber volumes declined 4% year-over-year with slightly higher demand in EMEA more than offset by declines in both the Americas and APAC.
The improvement in EMEA was consistent with resilience exhibited in that region's replacement tire market, whereas tire build rates in North America have yet to recover. A bit of additional forward-looking commentary here. We expect subdued Rubber segment results in Q4, owing primarily to lower year-over-year contract pricing and more pronounced fourth quarter seasonality as well as turnaround activity and related costs. Regarding 2027, we see multiple areas to drive segment performance, including further improvements in plant reliability, benefits from feedstock sourcing initiatives and continued strength in the spot market, particularly in North America.
Slide 8 summarizes many of the points we've already made on free cash flow, working capital and our financial position. Capital expenditures were lower sequentially in Q3, contributing favorably to our cash flow performance during the quarter. We finished the quarter with net debt of $918 million and a 4.1x leverage ratio based on the trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. Total liquidity was $193 million at quarter's end. We further enhanced our liquidity at the third -- after the third quarter ended when we unwound favorable cross-currency and interest rate swaps related to our European term loans, taking advantage of favorable market conditions and monetized $27 million embedded in the instrument. This decision highlights our proactive approach to risk management and our balance sheet focus. With that, I'll turn the call back to Corning.
Corning Painter
Thanks, Jon. On Slide 9, we share updated guidance metrics, including the narrowing of our adjusted EBITDA guidance towards the high end of our previous range. Our free cash flow guidance remains unchanged, although we would have lifted the lower end of that range if not [Technical Difficulty] prices. We remain on track for $90 million of capital expenditures in 2026, a $70 million reduction versus last year.
Finally, the implied Q4 EBITDA expectations reflects above normal seasonality in both segments [Technical Difficulty] as Jon mentioned. Turning to Slide 10. To sum it up, we delivered $171 million of adjusted EBITDA year-to-date. We delivered on free cash flow, and we did this in spite of the turmoil in the world. We are determined that 2026 will be our trough year and that in 2027, we will return to growth. We're not relying on the market. We are taking action on the things we control to drive improvement going forward. We appreciate your interest in joining us today. And with that, Dylan, let's open up the call for Q&A. Thank you.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Josh Spector with UBS.
分析师问答
Christopher Perrella
It's Chris Perrella on for Josh. As I think about the fourth quarter there. Can you just -- is it further destocking in both segments that's driving the weakness absent the EU credits? Or is pricing also down? Is there margin compression that you're seeing in Specialty? Can you just go a little bit deeper there? And then I have a follow-up on inventory.
Corning Painter
Sure. Yes. No, it's really just -- if you put yourself in the shoes of a master-batch company or another manufacturer downstream from us, and maybe a lot of your feedstocks are oil-based in price. Nobody really wants to have a lot of inventory. I mean what happened in the last 2 days would be great if you had some inventory -- I would say, disastrous, excuse me, if you had inventory, right? The price just went down, you bought it when it's expensive, now it's cheaper. I think people are just very cautious about wanting any inventory, whereas maybe in Q2, people were really worried about supply and what's going to happen in this and that.
It's not a margin issue for us [Technical Difficulty] customers signaling that they are very cautious. They've all along given us very short forecast periods and expressed not a lot of clarity about further out. But our sense of customers are they're pretty cautious about November and where they want to end in December.
Jonathan Puckett
Yes. And Chris, I would just add to that, too, is turnaround timing is a pretty big factor in our fourth quarter as well. And that was intentional on our part. We pushed turnarounds to the end of the year just to take advantage of demand strength that was earlier in the year. And so that's a pretty significant impact. And the other element that we've talked about all year is the annual contract pricing in rubber, and that's consistent with prior quarters, that's about a $10 million impact on price.
Corning Painter
Yes. So there's that margin, but that's like continue. There's nothing new there. And if I take you back to earlier this year, like when you did see a surge in demand when the war began, I think we all had the concern that at some point, though, the consumer is going to run out of gas, right, so to speak. And we wanted to like make the product while the going is good because at some point, there was a concern that demand would be destroyed. So we pushed it back. And all in all, we feel pretty good about that.
Christopher Perrella
Is the turnaround impact evenly split between the 2 segments? And then just a follow-up on the inventory. How low are they versus normal? And can you move them? I know you're looking to generate cash. Is there more water to be run from that sponge?
Jonathan Puckett
Yes. On the turnaround timing, it's more weighted towards Specialty than to Rubber. It's probably 75% Specialty, 25% Rubber. And then on the inventory, yes, that's going to be a little bit mixed geographically. There are some areas of the world where we can take a little more adjust safety stocks down, and that's probably in Europe. In the Americas, where we've seen a lot of spot demand, we'd probably be a little more cautious there.
Operator
Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho.
Saurabh Dhir
This is Saurabh on for John Roberts. So I guess, first, can you parse out the impact on EBITDA from the raw material pass-through and the EU allowances?
Jonathan Puckett
We did spike out the allowances, and that's about the $17 million. So -- and the split, just so you can do it, Saurabh, is, it's about 30% in Specialty and 70% in Rubber. And then -- and we've laid out the combined impact. So I think you can parse out the rest of the math from that.
Saurabh Dhir
And on the contract negotiations for next year, like can you provide us some hints and color on like what are you seeing for next year? Any encouragement from the customers?
Corning Painter
Yes, sure. Let me speak to that. So first of all, it's commercially sensitive. So I can only kind of make high-level comments. Also, let's say, of our total rubber sales into the tire industry, we're probably about 50% contracted. Keep in mind, we have one large customer [Technical Difficulty] no negotiation with them.
You might have heard some comments earlier this week from a competitor talking about tire imports down, manufacturing hasn't moved that much. I want to make it clear. We are not resigned on that subject. And we are not [Technical Difficulty] negotiating for next year, and we are pushing hard on what's a fair price, the right price, look at all the spot demand that's underinvestment, we think, from some people in maintenance. This is what the industry needs, and we are pushing hard for that. I'd also say I'm very focused on the companies with whom we can be partners. And in some cases, if our expectations are too far apart, you know what, we can just hold back some and play the spot market. I think that's going to be pretty robust next year.
Operator
Our next question comes from Daniel Rizzo with Jefferies.
Daniel Rizzo
Just a follow up on what you just said. Is the spot market in the U.S. relatively large? I thought it was mostly contract or I should say in North America really?
Corning Painter
Yes, you're absolutely right. It is traditionally like contracted. But the catch is if somebody has unplanned downtime and they can't fulfill it, then you see people come out. In Europe, you see more where there's people who are relying on, let's say, imported carbon black, maybe at the very bottom, not really tire manufacturers, very bottom, you see some of that in the U.S. And so for example, when Chinese prices spiked, we definitely saw some people now looking for new sources of supply. But by and large, in North America, we attribute this to unplanned downtime by others.
Daniel Rizzo
Okay. And then given the productivity you've done and the reliability you've created, how should we think about incremental margins when a recovery eventually occurs? Would it be -- I mean, how much -- I would assume it would be higher, but how much? And also along the same lines, how should we think about mid-cycle margins in both segments really?
Corning Painter
So I mean, I think our rule of thumb on incremental -- what incremental margins [Technical Difficulty] rubber in the 300s. And I think that's a margin off of wherever the contract pricing is in that time frame. So I think I'd still use that today. I don't know, Jon, if you...
Jonathan Puckett
No, I think that's about right, Corning.
Corning Painter
Yes.
Jonathan Puckett
Yes. And then as far as mid-cycle margins, we really think of it as maybe mid-cycle EBITDA. And we anticipate [Technical Difficulty] and then if you can get back to a more normalized production level and import level balance in the Americas, you're going to be able to step up significantly EBITDA in each of the segment. And I think that size in the neighborhood of $50 million to $100 million, you could step up over a period of time.
And the key point on mid-cycle also is kind of unique in the tire market in that so much of tire demand is replacement. Tire sales in North America, Europe, it's good, right, down a little bit in trucking because of trucking activity, but passenger car, light truck, it's fine. The whole issue has been the level of imports there. So like what we really need in that part is sort of a little bit of reversion towards the norm on that as we move forward from where we are today rather than like dramatic [Technical Difficulty] you know replacement tires, that's a consumable and people are driving.
Daniel Rizzo
I'm sorry, you broke up a few times. So just with the tariffs in the U.S. and the antidumping in the EU, that's having minimal effect as of right now?
Corning Painter
Well, it's having an effect in that you can see a drop in the amount of imported tires, really quite marked. You see that. You don't yet see really a pickup in tire manufacturing. So I would relate that to, look, we're in an inventory drawdown to the comments we said earlier. People are destocking. Nobody wants a lot of inventory, perhaps in anticipation of expected tariffs or duties, people imported extra earlier. I don't think we're really going to see that at this point until into next year. But you definitely see a reduction in tire imports.
Operator
Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho Securities.
John Ezekiel Roberts
Oil prices have come off hard in the last couple of days, both in the spot market and the 12-month Brent futures. Do you think that's going to exacerbate the customer destocking that you highlighted you think is already underway?
Corning Painter
I think volatility makes people cautious. At a lower number, maybe people will start buying again though. But you're absolutely right. Like we started working on the script a couple of days ago, current prices, yesterday's prices, it's a pretty dynamic time. And that's part of our point. It's pretty agile to make the most of this. And so when they turn on, fine, we'll be ready for it. And all these cross currents and raw materials and what's better, what's worse, like we're just trying to make the most of that in this pretty dynamic time we're in. But I think if oil prices come down, that's going to be good for the consumer. I think ultimately, that would be a positive.
Operator
We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Corning Painter for closing comments.
Corning Painter
Well, thank you all for your time and your interest today. We're going to be engaging with investors over the next several weeks. We have an NYSE event coming up and a small cap conference in Dallas. And we look forward to being able to say more about our 2027 and our fourth quarter results call in February. Thanks very much, and have a good rest of your day.
Operator
This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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