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Matrix Service (MTRX) 2026财年第四季度业绩电话会:盈利能力改善

TradingKey2026年9月3日 20:02
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Matrix Service Company公布2026财年第四季度及全年财报,全年营收同比增长14%,毛利率扩大210个基点,调整后每股收益达0.26美元,实现扭亏为盈。第四季度营收2.445亿美元,毛利率提升至8.0%,调整后每股收益0.16美元,EBITDA为630万美元。公司年末未完成订单额9.53亿美元,流动资金达2.839亿美元且无未偿债务,正评估股票回购计划。管理层预计2027财年将消化70%至80%的未完成订单,并在积极推进重大项目。

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核心要点

  • 2026财年第四季度营收同比增长13%至2.445亿美元,主要得益于储罐及码头解决方案业务活跃度的提升。
  • 毛利润增长140%至1950万美元,毛利率从上年同期的3.8%提升至8.0%。
  • 调整后每股收益达0.16美元,而上年同期为亏损0.28美元。调整后EBITDA从亏损480万美元扭亏为盈至630万美元。
  • 2026财年全年营收增长14%,毛利率扩大210个基点,全年调整后每股收益提高1.19美元至0.26美元。
  • 年末未完成订单额为9.53亿美元。管理层预计约70%至80%的未完成订单将在2027财年期间完成消化。
  • Matrix在季度末拥有2.839亿美元的流动资金,其中包括2.23亿美元的非受限现金及现金等价物,且无未偿债务。

关键财务数据

指标2026财年第四季度2025财年第四季度变动 / 点评
营收2.445亿美元2.164亿美元增长13%
毛利润1950万美元810万美元增长140%
毛利率8.0%3.8%提升420个基点
销售、一般及行政费用(SG&A)1690万美元1760万美元尽管可变薪酬增加,但费用有所下降
销售、一般及行政费用占营收比例6.9%8.1%随着营收增加及成本降低而改善
重组费用340万美元—与高管变动和公司业务重组相关
营业亏损90万美元1290万美元亏损大幅收窄
每股收益(EPS)0.04美元-0.40美元每股收益实现扭亏为盈
调整后每股收益0.16美元-0.28美元不含重组费用
调整后EBITDA630万美元-480万美元调整后EBITDA实现扭亏为盈
利息收入220万美元200万美元得益于公司充裕的现金储备

整个2026财年,Matrix录得14%的营收增长和210个基点的毛利率提升。销售、一般及行政费用较2025财年减少了760万美元,全年调整后每股收益为0.26美元。

业务与运营表现

储罐及码头解决方案业务在2026财年第四季度实现营收1.374亿美元,较上年同期的9610万美元增长43%。特种船舶及液化天然气(LNG)储罐项目业务量的增加推动了该业务增长。部门毛利率从负1.1%改善至6.4%,而上年同期的业绩受到了历史项目仲裁的影响,该仲裁已在2026财年完全解决。

公用事业及电力基础设施业务营收大致持平,为7350万美元(上年同期为7300万美元)。毛利率从9.1%升至12.8%,反映出强大的项目执行力。Matrix强调了在北弗吉尼亚州和宾夕法尼亚州东部正在进行的变电站建设,这些建设旨在满足数据中心相关的电力需求。

工艺与工业设施业务营收从4730万美元降至3360万美元,主要是由于炼油厂活动减少以及项目组合的变化。毛利率从5.9%降至2.9%。然而,该部门在本季度获得了1.08亿美元的新签订单,其中包括一个重大矿业相关项目,使订单出货比达到3.2倍。

2026财年第四季度新签订单总额为1.69亿美元,相当于0.7倍的订单出货比。年终未完成订单额为9.53亿美元,而公司的意向项目库超过70亿美元。其中超过40%的项目储备由LNG和液化石油气(NGL)项目组成。

Matrix还获选为位于德克萨斯州布朗斯维尔的America First Refining设施的储罐区开展前端工程设计(FEED)工作。管理层将其称为一个极大的商业机会,但强调目前仅FEED工作已计入未完成订单中。

管理层展望

Matrix在寻找常任首席财务官(CFO)期间不提供正式的2027财年业绩指引。在Kevin Cavanah离任后,A.J. Smith将于2026年9月10日起接任过渡期临时CFO。

管理层预计年末未完成订单的70%至80%将在2027财年期间完成消化。管理层表示,未完成订单的利润率表现符合两位数增长,目前项目交付接近这一水平。公司旨在根据项目组合和执行情况,将未完成订单毛利率提高至10%以上。

对于America First Refining项目,Matrix预计将在2027财年第二季度末完成FEED工作。管理层预计,在客户做出最终投资决定后,有可能在2027财年第三季度末或第四季度初获得主项目合同。早期采购或现场施工可能会在2026日历年末之前开始。

公司预计在2027财年上半年动用现金,以支持此前已收到预付款的在建项目。管理层表示,旨在保持项目的净正现金流状况。Matrix还根据其资产负债表状况及恢复盈利的情况,积极评估股票回购计划。

风险与关注领域

  • 季度新签订单总额为1.69亿美元,低于营收,导致订单出货比仅为0.7倍。储罐及码头解决方案以及公用事业及电力基础设施部门的新签订单表现被形容为温和。
  • 管理层正专注于争取维持2027财年下半年营收并为2028财年奠定基础所需的新订单。
  • 重大机会的转化取决于FEED工作、许可办理、客户投资决策以及项目推进时机。
  • 工艺与工业设施部门因炼油厂工作量减少以及不利的项目组合转变,导致营收下降和利润率走弱。
  • 2027财年指引已推迟,直至任命常任CFO并对业务完成评估。

分析师问答集锦

管理层表示,主要的组织重组行动已基本完成。预计2027财年的重组费用将相对微不足道,尽管个别季度可能会包含数十万美元的成本。

关于未完成订单,管理层表示最近的预订模式在预料之中,因为重大项目需要较长时间的前端工程设计(FEED)、许可办理和审批流程。公司预计将在2027财年前三个季度完成其大部分较大型项目,同时寻求补充新订单。

关于America First Refining项目,管理层澄清该项目已被纳入意向项目储备库,但仅FEED工作范围已计入未完成订单。任何更大规模的工程转化预计将在2027财年第三季度末或第四季度初实现,具体取决于客户达成最终投资决定。

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Unknown Speaker

Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you.

Operator

Patrick Roberts, Director of Corporate Development and Investor Relations for Matrix Service Company. Please go ahead.

Unknown Speaker

Welcome to Matrix Service Company's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings Call. Participants on today's call include Chief Executive Officer Shawn Payne and Chief Financial Officer Kevin Cavanah. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call up for questions. The presentation materials referred to during the webcast today can be found under Events and Presentations on the Investor Relations section of matrixservicecompany.com. As a reminder, on today's call we may make various remarks about future expectations, plans, and prospects for Matrix Service Company that constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements because of various factors, including those discussed in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, and in subsequent filings made by the company with the SEC. The forward-looking statements made today are effective only as of today.

To the extent we utilize non-GAAP measures, reconciliations will be provided in various press releases, periodic SEC filings, and on our website. Before we get started, I want to share a project highlight that also illustrates our commitment to safety and quality. This is 1 of 4 air raises that Matrix has safely completed in the last 4 months, each supporting infrastructure for different fuels and feedstocks, including LNG, ethane, liquid propane gas, ammonia, and butane. An air raise is a complex process that uses air pressure to safely lift and position a large steel dome roof. The weight of which can be well over 1 million pounds. This is a pivotal step in the construction of the storage tank. The project being highlighted here is for Dominion Energy's Brunswick-Greensville storage facility, which is a greenfield project for Matrix and supports the Brunswick County and Greensville County power stations. The project features a 25 million gallon full containment LNG storage tank, providing backup fuel supply for 700,000 businesses and homes.

Logics like these are core to our mission of supporting major energy companies, advancing American infrastructure, and connecting U.S. energy to the world. The successful execution of these consecutive air raises on complex high-profile projects highlights Matrix's technical expertise, commitment to safety, and dedication to delivering exceptional outcomes for our clients and the communities that rely on these critical assets. I now turn the call over to Shawn.

Shawn Payne

Thank you, Patrick.

It is a privilege to address you as President and Chief Executive Officer of Matrix Service Company. I am grateful for the confidence of our Board of Directors and excited to lead the company into its next chapter. As I begin, I also want to recognize and thank our dedicated employees in the field and across our offices. Your commitment to safety, quality, and execution is the foundation of everything we do and the driving force behind our success. Throughout my 30-year career in the industrial engineering and construction industry, I have had the privilege of leading high-performing operations, project controls, and finance teams, helping deliver complex projects, improving organizational performance, and creating lasting value for customers and stakeholders. Those experiences have given me a genuine understanding of what good looks like and a deep appreciation for the characteristics required to achieve it. They have reinforced my belief that sustainable success is built on exceptional people, a strong culture, operational excellence, customer focus, and an unwavering commitment to the safety and well-being of everyone involved.

These are the very same characteristics that have defined Matrix for decades and helped establish our reputation as a leading heavy industrial contractor that engineers, constructs, and maintains the critical infrastructure that supports industries and communities across North America. While those characteristics have shaped our history, they are equally important to our future and provide the foundation from which we will continue to grow and evolve. As the needs of our clients continue to develop, we are evolving alongside them, expanding our capabilities, strengthening our expertise, and reinforcing our position as a trusted partner in the markets we serve. Today, our expertise, brand, and reputation provide a distinct advantage as many of our core and emerging markets are experiencing generational levels of investment. But I want to recognize that while Matrix has long been well positioned to benefit from these opportunities, our past performance has not always reflected the strength of our capabilities or the opportunities before us. The company has yet to unlock its full potential, and we have more work to do. In 2025, the Board and Executive Leadership tasked me with bringing a fresh perspective to the organization, first as President of Engineering and Construction and then as Chief Operating Officer.

Together, with an enterprise-wide team, we established a strategic framework: Win, Execute, Deliver. This comprehensive business strategy addresses growth, revenue diversification, operational excellence, accountability, and organizational effectiveness, ultimately delivering sustainable profitability and value to our shareholders. More than just a list of goals or business as usual, this framework represents a deliberate shift towards a culture of consistent performance, excellence, and value creation. While we still have work to do, we have accomplished a lot in a relatively short period of time. Once our strategy was defined, we ensured the organization was properly sized and structured to support its successful execution. Recognizing our overhead had been built to support a larger anticipated revenue base, we took decisive action to streamline and flatten the organization, establishing a more sustainable cost structure that increased our speed to market while preserving our ability to capitalize on future growth opportunities. At Parallel, we transformed our commercial organization by strengthening strategic account management, improving opportunity qualifications, aligning our business development operational resources around targeted markets and focusing on opportunities that provide the best risk and reward profile for our business.

With a clear strategy guiding our decisions, a transformed commercial focus, and an optimized cost structure, we built a stronger, more agile organization, positioned to deliver consistent execution, profitable growth, and long-term value creation. Today, every role and resource is aligned around our Win, Execute, and Deliver strategic framework. Our progress is tangible, evidenced by our return to profitability in the third and fourth quarters of fiscal 2026. Looking forward, our strategy is straightforward. Win the right work, execute with excellence, and deliver the results expected by our customers, employees, and shareholders. Each pillar plays a critical role in strengthening our business and creating long-term value. To provide greater context around our progress, I would like to highlight several key initiatives within each pillar.

First, our WIN strategy is centered on pursuing opportunities that align with our capabilities, our risk parameters and create the greatest potential for profitable growth. This includes expanding our presence in both legacy and selected new and re-emerging markets, growing our geographic reach, expanding our construction-only services, and strengthening our relationships with existing customers, as well as increasing new customer acquisitions. Market intelligence and client insight continue to support strong demand across our traditional LNG and NGL infrastructure markets, particularly for peak shaving facilities, backup fuel terminals, and related infrastructure. In fact, over 40% of our current opportunity pipeline is comprised of LNG and NGL projects. Another example of our Win strategy at work and our legacy markets is a project for which we have been selected subsequent to the quarter, which we announced by press release after market closed yesterday. This project is for the Front End Engineering and Design of the storage tank farm for the America First Refining facility in Brownsville, Texas, the first new major refinery to be constructed in the U.S. in more than 50 years. We are extremely proud to have been selected to complete this major step for AFR in reaching financial investment decision.

At the same time, we are actively pursuing opportunities being driven by new and re-emerging markets, such as power generation and related infrastructure investments that is driven by the rapid growth of data centers, aging power infrastructure, and the increasing domestic electricity demand. Specific to data centers, our ability to deliver power infrastructure and substation solutions that support our customers' expanding energy requirements is critical. Evidence of our Win strategy at work in this end market includes 2 recently completed substation projects to bring more power to the Northern Virginia Data Center Alley. We are currently on site constructing additional substations in the same geographical area as well as the Eastern Pennsylvania region. Another example of us leveraging our experience to participate in a re-emerging market is our focus on the mining and mineral sector, where increased commodity pricing and the demand for critical minerals essential to energy, technology, defense, and AI infrastructure continues to grow. To support our position in this market, we have invested additional capital and resources into our existing Southwest operation. As a result, we have received and have mobilized on a significant award, which was taken into backlog in the fourth quarter.

Beyond our market focus, we are also heavily focused on expanding our geographic reach across key strategic regions and pursuing more construction-only opportunities. As a result of our construction-only initiatives, we have also been able to we have received several balance plan awards across the organization in the fourth quarter. At the same time, our improved strategic account management approach enables us to strengthen relationships with key customers while expanding our presence among new clients. This reinforces our position as a trusted long-term partner across multiple service offerings and project life cycles. Collectively, these initiatives with our improved speed to market and lower cost structure will strengthen our backlog, expand our market share, diversify our revenue stream, and drive sustainable, profitable organic growth. The Execution pillar is where our reputation is earned and trust is built. That trust depends on our ability to deliver high-quality projects safely, on time, and on budget.

Like our Win strategy, our Execute strategy is built around many initiatives, 45 in this case. These initiatives were developed to strengthen project delivery and drive consistent operational excellence across the organization. Each initiative is supported by dedicated teams with clear accountability for solution development, implementation, and results. These initiatives focus on improving proposal and contracting discipline, enhancing engineering and construction processes, strengthening our safety culture and protocols, advancing change management practices, and reinforcing quality management systems. Collectively, these efforts are intended to improve project outcomes and reduce execution risk. During the year, we also completed the final phase of our enterprise services transformation by transitioning project controls and proposal delivery into the organization. These were the last remaining service-related functions that had not yet been centralized. With this transformation now complete, our shared services organization, operating under dedicated leadership, is focused on delivering consistent support, improving resource efficiency, and driving continuous improvement across the company.

By bringing greater discipline and standardization to critical business processes, this structure allows our operations teams to concentrate on what they do best, winning the right work, executing projects with excellence, and delivering successful outcomes for our customers. The function is exact. Our entire enterprise is focused on execution and measurable results. Moving on to the third pillar, Deliver. We are committed to delivering consistent results and sustainable value. Our operational strategies and focused capital deployment create a resilient, future-ready enterprise. Already, we have reduced SG&A expenses by 11% year-over-year and driven improvements in operating performance. These are not isolated actions, they are evidence of a company committed to change, discipline, and results. Overall, our strategic framework ensures we are aligned around a common purpose, focused on both organic and targeted acquisitive growth and executing consistently across the enterprise.

As we enter this next phase, we do so from a position of financial strength, supported by a healthy balance sheet, robust liquidity, and no debt. The actions we have taken have strengthened our foundation, enhanced our ability to pursue profitable growth, and positioned Matrix to create sustainable long-term value for our shareholders, customers, employees, and the communities we serve. On behalf of the entire Matrix team, we look forward to earning your trust and support as we build on our legacy and pursue the opportunities ahead. I will now turn the call over to Kevin Cavanah.

Kevin Cavanah

Before I get into the fourth quarter, I want to highlight a few ways this strategic framework is already having a positive impact. Successful execution of our backlog allowed us to achieve 14% revenue growth and a 210 basis point gross margin improvement in fiscal 2026. We have successfully leveraged our experience and reputation to re-enter the mining and mineral space as demonstrated by significant project taken into backlog this quarter. Our focus on flattening our organizational structure to achieve greater efficiency and effectiveness contributed to a decrease in SG&A expenses, which fell by $7.6 million in fiscal 2026 compared to fiscal 2025. As a result of these efforts, we returned to profitability this year with full year adjusted EPS of $0.26 and an increase of $1.19 compared to last year. Now to the quarter. Our results represented a good finish to fiscal 2026, as well as positive indicators of the opportunity ahead. In the fourth quarter, our revenue increased 13% to $244.5 million compared to $216.4 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025.

The increase in the quarter was expected and driven by the Storage and Terminal Solutions segment, partially offset by lower revenue in the Process and Industrial Facilities segment. Gross profit increased 140% to $19.5 million compared to $8.1 million in the prior year quarter. The quarter gross margin was 8% compared to 3.8% in the prior year. While SG&A in the fourth quarter was impacted by higher variable compensation costs related to returning to profitable performance, SG&A still decreased to $16.9 million in the fourth quarter versus $17.6 million last year. The lower SG&A cost combined with the higher revenue allowed SG&A as a percent of revenue to decrease to 6.9% compared to 8.1% in the same period last year. The company also incurred $3.4 million of restructuring costs in the fourth quarter associated with executive transitions and previously announced corporate realignment. Including the restructuring costs, the company produced an operating loss of $0.9 million in the recent quarter compared to an operating loss of $12.9 million in the prior year fourth quarter. The company continues to generate interest income.

On the company's strong cash position, interest income was $2.2 million in the quarter compared to $2 million in the prior year quarter. Bottom line, the company produced EPS of $0.04 in the quarter compared to a $0.40 loss in the prior year. Adjusted EPS, which excludes restructuring, was a positive $0.16 in the fourth quarter versus a $0.28 loss in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was also improved to $6.3 million in the fourth quarter compared to a $4.8 million loss in the prior year fourth quarter. Moving to the segments, Storage and Terminal Solutions segment revenue increased 43% to $137.4 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2026 compared to $96.1 million last year due to increased volume of work for specialty vessel and LNG storage projects. Gross margin in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2026, which was 6.4% compared to a negative 1.1% in the prior year quarter, which was impacted by lowered recovery expectations on a legacy project completed in fiscal 2021 that was in arbitration. The matter was fully resolved in fiscal 2026. In Utility and Power Infrastructure, segment revenue was $73.5 million in the fourth quarter compared to $73 million in the same period a year ago. Gross margin improved to 12.8% in the fourth quarter compared to 9.1% last year.

The increase was due to strong project execution, and Process Industrial Facility segment revenue decreased to $33.6 million in the fourth quarter compared to $47.3 million last year, primarily due to lower revenue from refinery work, due to a change in mix of work. Gross margin was 2.9% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2026 compared to 5.9% last year. Now let's discuss backlog. Project award activity was mixed in the fourth quarter with total awards of $169 million for 0.7x book-to-bill. The Process and Industrial Facility segment had a strong fourth quarter with awards of $108 million, including a significant mining related project, resulting 3.2x book-to-bill. Fourth quarter award activity in the other 2 segments was modest. The company entered the quarter with backlog of $953 million. The year-end backlog level is supportive of strong revenue performance as we move into fiscal 2027 and we are heavily focused on the awards that are required to maintain strong revenue through the back half of fiscal 2027 and to build a strong foundation for fiscal 2028.

As previously mentioned, our markets are strong throughout the business as evidenced by the opportunity funnel, which is over $7 billion. Moving to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with total liquidity of $283.9 million. Liquidity is comprised of $223 million of unrestricted cash and cash equivalents and $60.9 million of borrowing availability under the credit facility. The contribution is $2.3 million. The company continues to have $25 million of restricted cash to support the credit facility and has no outstanding debt as of the end of the quarter. While the company expects to utilize cash in the first half of fiscal 2027 to support current project activities. We enter the year in a strong financial position that provides the liquidity needed to support the execution of our backlog and to deploy capital toward growth. Based on the strength of our balance sheet and our return to profitability, we are actively evaluating a stock buyback.

With that, I will turn the call back to Shawn for additional comments. Thank you, Kevin. Before we open the call for questions, I would like to take a moment to recognize Kevin Cavanah, who will be transitioning from his role as Chief Financial Officer at the end of the week. Kevin joined Matrix in 2003 and has been an integral part of our success for more than 23 years, including the last 15 years as our Chief Financial Officer. Throughout his tenure, Kevin helped guide Matrix through significant industry cycles, evolving regulatory requirements, and major strategic initiatives. His leadership played an important role in strengthening our financial discipline, enhancing our reporting and control processes, and helping position the company for long-term success. On behalf of the Board of Directors and everyone at Matrix, I want to thank Kevin for his many contributions to the company. On a personal level, I am grateful for his partnership and support over the years and have always valued his expertise, thoughtful perspective, and commitment to Matrix. We wish Kevin and his family all the best in the next chapter. We have been selecting a thorough process over the past several months to identify the right long-term financial leader for Matrix.

We continue to make good progress and remain committed to finding the best candidate to join me in Houston to drive the company's next phase of growth. While we are being deliberate and patient in that process, A.J. Smith has been appointed as the Interim Chief Financial Officer effective September 10, 2026. A.J. has been serving as Senior Director of Accounting and Treasury overseeing our accounting, SEC reporting, and Treasury functions. His deep knowledge of the business and strong leadership make him well positioned to support the organization during this transition. As we search for our next Chief Financial Officer, we believe it is important that the successful candidate have the opportunity to become familiar with the business and our strategy. As a result, we will not be providing guidance at this time.

Once our next CFO is onboarded and has had the opportunity to assess the business, we will evaluate our approach going forward. With that, I would like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star 1-1 on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press star 1-1 again. We will pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from John Franzreb with Sidoti & Company. Your line is open.

分析师问答

John Franzreb

Good morning everyone and Shawn, welcome aboard and Kevin. It has been a pleasure working with you over the years. Shawn, I would like to start with your perspective in the firm. Can you talk a little about the current cost structure? You have been there for a while. You had a chance to evaluate. Are you satisfied with the way the company is currently constructed, or do you still envision additional restructuring charges in the year ahead?

Shawn Payne

Yes, John, in the last 18 months we have made measurable progress, right, getting that to where we think it needed to be, not just from a cost perspective, but also from an efficiency and a focus perspective. So today I feel like we really got it where we need to be. There could be some future tweaking. But right now I am satisfied that we have got the right organization, the right size to do the work that we have today as well as what we have got in our growth plans.

John Franzreb

So, how should we think about the nearly $10 million of restructuring actions in 2026? How much will continue to flow through the P&L in fiscal 2027?

Kevin Cavanah

John, this is Kevin. Enjoyed working with you too. I think when you look at the restructuring, you are not going to see anywhere near that level. There may be a few things, but it would be relatively insignificant. And as Shawn said, there may be some tweaks with the organization, but over the last 18 months we have implemented the majority of the changes we plan on doing right now. So I would not expect that restructuring to be significant. There will be some time, but it will not be major.

John Franzreb

Okay. I guess when I think about the $950 million in backlog, I guess 2 things. Can we kind of walk through why the diminishing order book we have seen in the past 4 quarters has been the case. And maybe on that $950 million backlog, how much is deliverable in the coming 12 months?

Shawn Payne

Yes, so I would say this, John. So 1, we are not surprised by the latter of bookings and the activity over the last few years. Certainly don't want that to overshadow the opportunities that we have in the pipeline. All of these projects have their different time to wind up going from the early process of a FEED or a permitting process. Good news is a lot of that has not changed for us. We knew this was going to look that way for a while. As far as the exact numbers on the backlog that we have in hand, certainly in the first quarter, second quarter, and third quarter, we will be getting through a fair share of the larger projects that we have been carrying.

But, again, we have got our outlook is to start replacing that with new projects.

Kevin Cavanah

Yes, I do not have the exact number in front of me, but I think 70-80% of that backlog will be worked off during fiscal 2027.

John Franzreb

Got it. And just 1 last question on the backlog. Is the margin profile, is it heading north from the fourth quarter or is that a stable kind of level? How should we think about that?

Kevin Cavanah

Well, so the margin profile of our backlog is in line with our, you know, with double-digit level performance. I think you will, you know, we made a big move in revenue in 4Q, and that helped under recovery. There is still a little bit more work to do there. But our projects are delivering close to that double-digit level now and I think when you look at the quality of the backlog plus the quality of opportunities in the funnel, I think that will continue to support that. And obviously we want to continue to grow that backlog margin above 10%. As we move forward, I think we have probably got the markets to do that.

John Franzreb

Great.

Operator

1 moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ted Jackson with Northland. Your line is open.

Unknown Speaker

Thanks very much. So, Shawn, I had like a list of a half-dozen questions and in the course of your presentation you took almost all of them out. So you clearly did a good job in preparing your presentation. I have 2 questions for you. I would like to start out with, the, America First Refining. Can you provide a little more color with regards to, you know, like the size of the initial work you are doing on the front end and what it could mean in terms of just like the actual size of this project as it moves forward. How much of some of this stuff is in your project pipeline, is it what drove big jump that we saw in your project pipeline with regard to this quarter and then kind of what is the timeline for the family's board and then I have a follow-up.

Shawn Payne

Sure. Yes, I guess first, Ted, I will say I probably will not want to talk too much about the specifics of the dollar value. This has not gone through FID yet. Obviously, it is a very large project on any scale. Just give you a little bit background on kind of what we are doing there in the timeline. So we have been awarded, we have been contracted the FEED, and that is due at the end of our fiscal Q2, at which point when we turn that over to the client, they will look to finalize FID. At that time, we will work to convert that FEED estimate to a lump sum price utilized in an open book process with the client. We anticipate that the award will be in late fiscal Q3 or early Q4. But I think it is worth mentioning here that it is possible that we could start some early purchasing and/or site work prior to the calendar year-end to support the client's desired schedule.

Unknown Speaker

And then when you move forward with some of the early purchasing and such, is that part of what would drive you to some, I guess you would say, call cash use in the first half. I believe that was referenced in your presentation that the first half of '27 would be kind of digging into your cash position and then flip over, I assume, in the second half. Is that what drove that? Yes.

Shawn Payne

The utilization for the cash is primarily going to be the projects that are being executed in the field that we have got advanced payments on. This cash here, we have not worked out exactly what that will look like, but we always look to maintain a net positive cash position on any of the work that we are doing, and we will certainly do that for this. Okay.

Unknown Speaker

So, in summary then, America First Refining, a very large project. It is not, it is really not in your project pipeline at this point because you are in the process of defining it and we would see that, you know, kind of move through in second half of fiscal '27 and then potentially, you know, once you get the product and then move into your bookings sometime in the second half of '27 that cover basically America First Refining.

Shawn Payne

Yes, so just to be clear, it is in our opportunity pipeline. We have been pursuing this effort and working closely with a client for for for several years on this developing this but to your point, yes, we do not have anything outside of the FEED work booked right now and within our backlog and that would be something we would be looking to convert again late Q3 or early Q4 to backlog.

Unknown Speaker

Okay. And then shifting over to pipeline and backlog, you know, in the past, as a management team, I think that the message has been pretty consistent. That you did expect to see the backlog work down, you know, you know. You know, as it has been through, you know, kind of we pull up mid-fiscal '27, and then some of the opportunity pipeline should be converting into bookings and rebuild back. That scenario still holds and. You know, we should be viewing this America First Refining in the last line as an indication of the kind of things that drive your backlog north as we get to the second half of fiscal '27.

Shawn Payne

Yes, that is accurate. That is what we see happening.

Unknown Speaker

Okay. And then my final question, which was kind of touched on, but just to make sure I am right, is that essentially as we roll through '27, that we should not be expecting to see any large-scale restructuring line items, expenses, in the numbers. It will be, anything in there will be in the numbers, correct?

Kevin Cavanah

That is correct. You would not expect anything significant. I mean, you might have a quarter that has a couple hundred thousand. But no, the big changes have been implemented in in fiscal 2025 and in fiscal 2026. Okay.

Unknown Speaker

But hey, I appreciate it. That is it for me. Congrats on the quarter. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Operator

And I am not showing any further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Patrick for any further remarks.

Unknown Speaker

Great. Thank you everyone for your participation. Before we close the call, I wanted to mention that we will be presenting at the upcoming 25th Annual Diversified Industrials and Services Conference in Nashville, Tennessee. If you will be attending, we would welcome the opportunity to connect with you. Additionally, if you would like to have a conversation with management, please contact me through the Matrix Service Company Investor Relations website. You may also sign up to receive MTRX news by scanning the QR code on your screen. Again, thank you for your time today, and have a good rest of your week.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That will conclude today's presentation. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.

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