PodcastOne (PODC) 2027财年第一季度业绩电话会议：营收与EBITDA增长创纪录

核心要点

• PodcastOne公布其2027财年第一季度营收达到创纪录的1610万美元。
• 在营收增长和边际利润率改善的推动下，调整后EBITDA从上年同期的58万美元增至160万美元。
• 营业亏损由上年同期的110万美元扩大至160万美元，主要是由于一般及行政费用中的股权激励费用增加。
• 净亏损为160万美元，即基本与摊薄后每股亏损0.05美元；相比之下，上年同期净亏损为110万美元，即每股亏损0.04美元。
• 截至本季度末，PodcastOne资产负债表上拥有700万美元的现金及现金等价物，且无债务。
• 该公司在Podtrac的美国播客出版商排名中升至第6位，超越了迪士尼，管理层表示在7月份依然保持了这一排名。

核心财务数据

业务与运营表现

PodcastOne通过收购、原创节目和与创作者续约扩大了其内容组合。公司收购了由碎瓜乐队（The Smashing Pumpkins）主唱比利·柯根（Billy Corgan）主持的《The Magnificent Others》以及《Life Happens with Barb and Michelle》。公司还推出了原创剧集《It’s Okay, We’re All Gonna Die with Nurse Julie》。

公司续签了与林赛·克里斯利（Lindsie Chrisley）的《The Southern Tea》的合作关系，该节目在248多集中的总下载量已超过250万次。PodcastOne还与PAVE Studios就A&E的《The First 48》展开合作。

视频正成为内容探索和变现越来越重要的组成部分。管理层强调了YouTube AdSense收入、视频植入带来的更高广告千人成本（CPM），以及在YouTube、Instagram和TikTok上对短视频剪辑的运用。由亚当·卡罗拉（Adam Carolla）、《Some More News》和斯塔西·施罗德（Stassi Schroeder）主持的节目被列为突出的视频表现者。

斯塔西·施罗德的播客正在通过奈飞分发，而她的电视连续剧《House of Stassi》已在Hulu首播。管理层表示，更广泛的分发渠道有助于受众发现内容并提升优质广告费率。PodcastOne正在讨论将更多节目引入奈飞。

该公司表示，包括前进保险（Progressive）、州立农业保险（State Farm）、奥莱利（O’Reilly）、劳氏（Lowe’s）和梅西百货（Macy’s）在内的各大品牌都在使用播客广告。管理层强调的是跨音频、视频和社交媒体的整合营销活动，而不仅仅是传统的插播广告。

PodcastOne继续在广告、制作、探索和归因分析中运用人工智能辅助工具。其中包括Flightpath、Boostr、Adobe Audition、Pod Engine、Magellan AI和Opus Pro。

管理层展望

管理层指出，夏季通常是播客消费的淡季。预计随着学校开学和人们重返工作岗位，收听活动将有所回升，而日历年第四季度通常是公司最强劲的季度。

PodcastOne计划结合内生性增长、原创知识产权开发、节目收购以及更广泛的并购机会。管理层预计未来6至12个月内整个播客行业将出现收购活动，不过尚未公布具体的交易或财务目标。

该公司还预计，视频和更多的分发渠道仍将是内容探索和广告变现的核心。有关将更多PodcastOne节目引入奈飞的讨论仍在继续，管理层指出未来六个月内可能会有潜在进展。

风险与关注点

• 尽管调整后EBITDA实现盈利，但GAAP营业亏损和净亏损均同比扩大了50万美元。
• 一般及行政费用中较高的股权激励费用是营业亏损扩大的主要原因。
• 播客消费和广告活动具有季节性，管理层称夏季通常较为清淡。
• 向奈飞及其他分发平台的拓展仍取决于持续的讨论和分阶段推出的决策。
• 潜在的收购仍处于评估阶段，尚无法保证实现。

分析师问答环节亮点

视频变现：管理层表示，视频有助于内容探索、带来YouTube AdSense收入以及更高的广告CPM。展示产品的主播带货视频广告被认为对广告商尤为有效。

广告需求：PodcastOne表示，知名品牌越来越希望通过音频、视频和社交媒体整合触达创作者社区。其在Podtrac排名第6的地位也让销售团队在与广告商谈判时占据更有利的地位。

程序化广告：更高的网络消费量创造了更多展现量，这些展现量可以通过直销、公司与亚马逊ART19的合作关系以及其他程序化合作伙伴进行变现。

受众人口特征：管理层指出，受真实罪案和个人主导型节目的推动，消费份额最大的是年龄在25–44岁之间的女性。由亚当·卡罗拉（Adam Carolla）、乔丹·哈宾格（Jordan Harbinger）和布伦丹·肖布（Brendan Schaub）主持的节目有助于触达年龄在25–54岁之间的男性及更年长的听众。

并购策略：PodcastOne正在评估涉及播客代理、付费墙拓展和技术方面的机会，同时继续收购成熟节目并开发自主拥有的知识产权。

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管理层陈述

Operator

Good morning, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to PodcastOne's Fiscal First Quarter 2027 Financial Results and Business Update Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Presenting on today's call is Kit Gray, President and Founder of PodcastOne; and Craig Christensen, Interim Chief Financial Officer. I would like to remind you that some of the statements made on today's call are forward-looking and based on current expectations, forecasts and assumptions that involve various risks and uncertainties.

These statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding the future performance of the company, including expected future financial results and expected future growth in the business. Actual results may differ materially from those discussed on this call for a variety of reasons. Please refer to the company's filings with the SEC for information about factors which could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements, including those described in its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2026, and subsequent SEC filings.

You'll find reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures discussed today in the company's earnings release, which is posted on its Investor Relations website. The company encourages you to periodically visit the Investor Relations website for more important content. The following discussion, including responses to your questions, contains time-sensitive information and reflects management's views as of the date of this call, August 12, 2026. And except as required by law, the company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise this information after today's call.

I'd like to highlight to all participants that this call is being recorded. The company will make it available to investors and media via webcast, and a replay will be available on its website in the Investor Relations section shortly following the conclusion of the call. Additionally, it is the property of the company and any redistribution, transmission or rebroadcast of this call or the webcast in any form without the company's express written consent is strictly prohibited. I would now like to turn the call over to PodcastOne's President, Kit Gray.

Kit Gray

Thank you, and welcome to our fiscal first quarter 2027 earnings call. We entered fiscal 2027 with strong momentum, building on the progress we made throughout the past year. During the first quarter, we continued expanding our content portfolio, strengthening strategic partnerships and growing our audience through premium programming, original content development and creator-led franchises. PodcastOne continues to distinguish itself as the leading pure-play podcasting platform in the public markets through a vertically integrated model that combines talent development, content creation, distribution, analytics, monetization and operational efficiencies, all supported by our AI-powered infrastructure.

Our AI toolkit continues to enhance performance across every aspect of the business. Flightpath drives predictive profitability, Boostr scales advertising management and proposal recommendations, Adobe Audition ensures best-in-class audio quality, Pod Engine supports discoverability through SEO and insights, Magellan AI powers advertising attribution and Opus Pro converts long-form video into short-form content that fuels audience growth across platforms.

Our team continues leveraging AI-based search capabilities to discover new talent, identify emerging trends and connect timely topics with the content across our network. These tools directly support how we grow shows, monetize audiences and operate more efficiently at scale.

Throughout the quarter, we continued executing on our strategy of expanding our network through premium creator partnerships, strategic acquisitions, original content development and long-term creator relationships. One of our most significant milestones this quarter was advancing to the #6 position in Podtrac's ranking of U.S. podcast publishers, surpassing Disney and further reinforcing PodcastOne's position as one of the largest podcast networks in the country. This achievement reflects the continued growth of our audience, the strength of our programming and the dedication of our creators and team.

We also continued strengthening our content portfolio through the acquisition of The Magnificent Others hosted by Billy Corgan, lead singer of Grammy Award-winning rock band, The Smashing Pumpkins, adding another highly respected voice to our network while expanding our reach across music, entertainment and culture. We also acquired Life Happens with Barb and Michelle while officially launching our original series, It's Okay, We're All Gonna Die with Nurse Julie reflecting our continued investment in both established creator brands and original intellectual property.

Further strengthening our creator roster, we renewed our partnership with Lindsie Chrisley's, The Southern Tea, which recently surpassed 2.5 million downloads across more than 248 episodes. We also partnered with PAVE Studios on A&E's The First 48, expanding our relationship with premium media brands and creating additional opportunities to reach new audiences.

Across our network, PodcastOne creators continued attracting influential voices from across entertainment and popular culture. Notable guests during the quarter include actor Josh Duhamel on The Adam Carolla Show, Dancing with the Stars pro Ezra Sosa on Off the Vine and Mandy Moore on Yestergays. Our influence also extends beyond podcasting as House of Stassi premiered on Hulu with Stassi Schroeder's podcast, STASSI with Tay, serving as one of the central storylines throughout the series. Stassi's continued presence across major platforms, including Netflix, highlights the growing ability of podcast talent and brands to expand into broader entertainment franchises and reach audiences across multiple platforms.

As our network continues to grow, so do the opportunities to create value for creators, advertisers and listeners alike. Our investment in technology, audience development and advertising infrastructure continue to strengthen our ability to connect brands with highly engaged audiences while helping creators expand their reach across audio, video and social platforms.

As podcast advertising continues to mature and brands increasingly seek trusted creator relationships and measurable results, we believe PodcastOne remains well positioned to capitalize on these long-term industry trends through our diversified content portfolio, expanding creator network and technology-enabled platform.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Craig to review our financial results.

Craig Christensen

Thank you, Kit. As a reminder, our fiscal year 2027 began on April 1. Revenue in our first quarter of fiscal 2027 was a record $16.1 million. Operating loss in the first quarter was $1.6 million compared to an operating loss of $1.1 million in the same year ago quarter. This $500,000 increase was driven primarily by stock-based compensation within G&A.

Net loss for the first quarter was $1.6 million or negative $0.05 per basic and diluted share compared to a net loss of $1.1 million or negative $0.04 per share in the same year ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was positive $1.6 million compared to $580,000 in the same year ago quarter, driven by revenue growth and contribution margin improvement. We ended the quarter with $7 million in cash and cash equivalents and no debt on the balance sheet.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to you, Kit.

Kit Gray

Thanks, Craig. We are pleased with the momentum we've carried into fiscal 2027 and remain very optimistic about the opportunities ahead for PodcastOne and the broader podcast industry. Podcasting continues to evolve rapidly, and we believe the opportunity extends well beyond traditional audio. Video is becoming an increasingly important part of podcast discovery and consumption, while major media and technology companies continue investing in creator-led content and premium intellectual property. As that ecosystem expands, we see significant opportunities to extend the reach and value of the content we developed across additional platforms and formats.

We are also seeing continued strategic activity across the broader media landscape with major companies making significant investments in creator-led businesses, content and intellectual property. These transactions reinforce the value being placed on premium content, engaged audiences and the data and relationships that come with them. Under Steve Lehman's leadership, we continue to evaluate opportunities that can strengthen our platform, expand our creator offerings and create long-term shareholder value. At PodcastOne, we believe the next phase of growth is about more than simply adding podcasts to our network. It's about identifying great creators and ideas, developing them into successful franchises and finding opportunities to distribute that content across audio, video, television and other platforms.

We are particularly excited about our ability to develop original intellectual property that can travel beyond the podcast feed. Projects like Varnamtown demonstrate the potential for PodcastOne content to become broader entertainment franchises, and we believe there is significant opportunity ahead as we continue developing and investing in original programming.

At the same time, AI continues to help us improve operational efficiencies, enhance audience discovery, identify emerging listener interests and better understand the topics and formats that resonate with audiences. Combined with our growing content library and audience data, these capabilities give us an increasingly powerful foundation for developing and monetizing content.

The podcast industry itself continues to demonstrate significant long-term potential with consumption reaching record levels and audiences increasingly engaging with podcasts across audio, video and social platforms. We believe PodcastOne is uniquely positioned at the intersection of creators, content, audiences, data and distribution.

As we look ahead, our focus is on continuing to build that platform, finding the next great creators and ideas, expanding the ways our content can reach audiences and creating more value from the intellectual property we develop. I want to thank our team, our creators, our advertising partners and our shareholders for their continued support.

With that, we'll now open the line for questions. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Barry Sine with Litchfield Hills Research.

分析师问答

Barry Sine

I wanted to touch on the topic of video on podcast, adding a video instead of just audio. I know that's a pretty significant trend. Kit, maybe you could tell us where you stand on that? How much of your content is now also produced in video format? If you could tick off some of the major talents that are available in video? And what has been the reception of that through some of your distribution partners?

Kit Gray

Thank you, everyone, for the questions today and the time. I appreciate it. Yes, video is a huge part of what we're doing, not only at PodcastOne but in the medium. It's widely accepted. It's huge for discovery, leading with YouTube, their YouTube AdSense revenue generation model has helped us out quite a bit. For some of our shows, specifically Adam Carolla has a big audience in his YouTube channel. The Some More News guys do as well. Stassi and others in our network have really significant audio views, even -- or video views even beyond just YouTube now. I mean Stassi, whose television show just relaunched on Hulu just this last month, where she references her podcast quite often is also featured on Netflix now, too.

So all these video distribution channels are getting more and more into the podcasting world, which allows us to expand our discovery but also charge more for advertising CPMs just based on having their commercials in video. And many of our shows, if you watch them now, the commercials are host done with video and with product, which allows us to charge great CPMs and advertisers see amazing results.

So video is a huge part of what we do. And specifically in the discovery side of it, these short clips, whether it's on YouTube or Instagram or TikTok, it's great for us to clip 2-, 3-minute segments of the podcast to promote the shows, make them sponsorable, all of that adds to what we do.

Barry Sine

That's very helpful. And then my follow-up is more on advertising revenue. So you recently jumped up to the #6 ranking in the Podtrac rankings. Congratulations on that. What does that mean for Sue McNamara and her sales team and then also for programmatic? And how has advertiser willingness to use podcast for their advertising changed over the last year? Is the perception changing and improving?

Kit Gray

Yes. I mean I'll answer the last part first. Yes, you're seeing brands -- when I say brands, it's not just the using-the-code type brands. You're seeing the Progressives, the State Farms, the O'Reilly's, the Lowe's, those type of companies are jumping into the podcasting space, Macy's as well. These are these brands are actually realizing the benefit of podcasting, one, because they get the attribution for using it as a digital medium, but they're also using it on the creative side where they're really developing integrations into the communities of the talent, right? So Macy's we're trying on clothes on air, we're talking about deals and discounts and what people can go and buy, right? And it's just really integrated not only in the audio, the video, but also the social.

When you look at that, that's the exciting thing for brands because they're just not buying spots and dots. That business is definitely booming, especially with us, but it's not -- it's gone beyond that. The brands are really trying to buy into the communities, which is awesome.

And for a company like us, where we have really strong relationships with the talent and the production of the shows, we can gain trust for these brands to make sure they're getting what they pay for and they're protected in their messaging. That's a big part of really growing the brand business in the podcasting space is actually having trust, and we're able to provide that.

As far as the programmatic side and being #6, we actually -- we just came out for July too, we remain #6, which is great news for us. That's really -- it's a good thing to open doors for our sales team in the sense that there's some big names behind us, whether it's Disney or Barstool or CNN, some of those networks, sometimes it's easier for them to get in the door of advertisers or brands, and we can actually say we're bigger than them, which is a nice sales point.

When it comes to programmatic and the Amazon ART19 deal, that's where that really comes into play, right? As we get more and more consumption on our network, there's more impressions to monetize, whether that's done by our direct sales team with our highest CPMs or the Amazon deal and having them buy through our network or programmatically where we continue to evolve and grow through our partners that we have in that world, too. So yes, it's been honestly really just a great year for growth on all levels, whether it's revenue, audience and just brands buying into the space. So it's been great.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Barry Sine with Litchfield Hills Research.

Barry Sine

That's not a mistake. I limited myself and then jump back in the queue, but I guess I am the next one. I had one more question, Kit. On the LiveOne call, Rob mentioned the Netflix, and I haven't seen a separate press release. I'm very enthusiastic about that. And I want to get a little more data from you because it seems to me as if your core demographic is very closely aligned with the Netflix core demographic.

If you could remind us what your demographics look like, age, gender, et cetera? And then when did PodcastOne podcasts start appearing on Netflix? And then Rob was asked what the revenue model is. He said you're not disclosing that. But whatever that model is, when will investors start to see the benefit of that relationship show up on the PodcastOne income statement?

Kit Gray

Yes. So the Netflix got into podcasting, I don't know, maybe 6 months ago, maybe a little bit longer if I had to guess. Stassi is our lead pony in that world. She's a great personality, great -- she comes from the Vanderpump world, if you guys don't know. Barry, I know you're well versed in Vanderpump. So you've got this. But she is a superstar.

And just an amazing talent. Her show on Hulu has gotten picked up. This is the second season. It's fantastic. She's really fun. So her podcast going on Netflix just made a lot of sense. We worked with her agent to get that show up there. And really, the benefit is discovery. And we are running commercials in there, right? So when I go to Macy's, I say, all right, well, Stassi is not only going to have it in her video audio world, but she's also going to have that in the Netflix distribution as well.

So you're going to see premium rates because of that and growth of the shows, right? So it's great. It's just another big company. You've got the YouTube, you've got the Amazons, the Spotifys, the XM Sirius is just jumping in full throttle in podcast. And now you see Netflix, you see -- you got Disney is doing some stuff too now. I think these distribution channels are going to be just additive to podcasting just growing as a medium and a distribution channel for advertisers. So you'll start to see that. You're seeing it in her show in terms of revenue and getting premium rates. So we'll continue that relationship and continue to charge forward with some other shows getting on there and some of the other platforms I just mentioned.

Barry Sine

So just to follow up on that. If you could remind us what your demographics look like? I have a sense of what Netflix look like. And then it sounded as if that's the only podcast you have on Netflix. What about adding other podcasts to Netflix?

Kit Gray

Yes, we're in talks on that. They wanted to roll out with kind of a phase. They've got a bunch on there, and we'll continue to talk to them about adding more. So we'll see how that goes over the next 6 months. We picked up one of the shows with Billy Corgan. And if you guys know Billy from his days with The Smashing Pumpkins, take a look at his video on YouTube and how amazing.

It's a really cool set and he's a very cool, interesting guy that has amazing interviews, and it just fits. So I think you're going to see more and more of that type of stuff over the next 6 to 12 months. As far as our demographics, when I created the company, I really wanted to be agnostic on that. I wanted to be able to really fill out any RFP an advertiser would have with a group of shows that hit any demo.

So yes. We -- I think probably most of our consumption comes in the female 25-44 range, true crimes, the Stassis, the Kaitlyns, the LadyGangs, the Pop Apologists, those guys for sure are a big part of what we're doing. But you still -- you're seeing growth in the older demographics. And you'll see the people like Adam Carolla, Jordan Harbinger, Brendan Schaub really round out the male 25-54 demo and in some cases, even higher, right?

I mean we're all getting older. Adam is still chugging along and doing great with his podcast and just building that and having new distribution channels as he's on XM Sirius with Megyn Kelly's network and you're going to see an older demographic there as Adam gets older and his audience gets older, but we're still getting a lot of advertisers in and a lot of consumption, and that's great. We can kind of fill out that demographic when we go to RFPs as well.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Leo Carpio with Joseph Gunnar.

Leo Carpio

A couple of quick questions on the quarter. In terms of the M&A opportunities, are you -- are there still any platforms available for you to pick up here at this stage or more you're focused on the organic growth, monetizing IP creation and developing talent at this point?

Kit Gray

Yes. Leo, good to hear from you. I -- to answer your question, we're doing it all, right? It's -- the main part of the business is either acquiring existing shows with an audience, growing them, monetizing them, doing more with them. That's a big part of what we do. We're launching our own shows with our own IP and growing them and monetizing them is a big part of what we're doing and talking about these different distribution channels. That's a big part of our business.

But when we look at M&A, yes, I mean, I was on the call yesterday with Steve, and we've got other things that we're talking about constantly. Those are interesting. There's more and more companies with great opportunities and great ideas, whether that's representing podcasts, expanding the paywall world or technology, that's going to be an important thing over the next year. I think there's going to be a lot of acquisition deals out there.

I know that a lot of different companies are being approached by some of the bigger groups and then a bunch of the smaller companies are talking to other small companies that complement each other quite well. And I think you're going to see acquisitions not only with PodcastOne, but I think you're going to see acquisitions throughout the industry over the next 6 to 12 months for sure.

Leo Carpio

Okay. And a quick housekeeping question. Can you remind us how your -- seasonality in your revenue in terms of how it progresses through the calendar year in terms of which quarters are strong versus which are a little softer?

Kit Gray

Yes. Obviously, we had a really good quarter last quarter, best, I think, ever that we've ever done, which is tremendous. Summertime usually a little bit slow, slower because people are on the beach, people are enjoying families and stuff like that. But as school gets back into the gear and people get back to work over the next 30 days, you're going to start to see more consumption of podcast as calendar year Q4 rolls up, that's always our biggest quarter. So that's where -- that's typically how it works.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Kit Gray for closing remarks.

Kit Gray

All right. Well, thank you, everyone, for your time today. I really appreciate it. We are extremely happy with where the year ended, where the quarter is and where the team is headed moving forward. Super excited about some of the projects that we got the chance to talk about a little bit this morning. Please keep an eye on us as you move forward and keep watching us. We're launching some great projects and some great shows. I hope you guys get to enjoy them.

But looking forward to you guys and looking forward to another great year at PodcastOne. Thank you very much for all your support, all our shareholder support and of course, the team at PodcastOne and LiveOne. Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.