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CorMedix (CRMD) 2026年第二季度业绩电话会:营收达1.019亿美元,上调EBITDA指引

TradingKey2026年8月14日 08:12
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CorMedix公布2026年第二季度综合营收为1.019亿美元,调整后EBITDA为5870万美元,净利润达2600万美元。公司重申全年营收指引在3.25亿至3.45亿美元之间,并将调整后EBITDA指引上调至1.25亿至1.40亿美元。此外,公司已与全美前五大透析提供商达成DefenCath商业供应协议,并计划于2026年第三季度提交Rezzayo的补充新药申请。截至季度末,现金及现金等价物为2.567亿美元。

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核心要点

  • CorMedix公布2026年第二季度综合营收为1.019亿美元,高于2025年第二季度的3970万美元。其中,DefenCath贡献了6610万美元,收购的Melinta产品组合贡献了3580万美元。
  • 调整后EBITDA从去年同期的2240万美元增至5870万美元。净利润为2600万美元,即基本每股收益0.33美元,摊薄后每股收益0.29美元。
  • 该公司重申了2026全年的营收指引,仍为3.25亿至3.45亿美元,并将调整后EBITDA指引上调至1.25亿至1.40亿美元。
  • CorMedix与另一家大型透析机构签署了DefenCath的多年期供应协议,使其服务范围覆盖了全美前五大透析提供商。预计包含几百家诊所的试点项目将于2026年第三季度启动。
  • Rezzayo用于预防侵袭性真菌病的3期ReSPECT研究达到了FDA的主要终点。CorMedix与Mundipharma正在支持计划于2026年第三季度提交的补充新药申请(sNDA)。
  • 截至季度末,现金及现金等价物总计为2.567亿美元,而2026年前六个月的经营性现金流达到1.286亿美元。

核心财务业绩

指标2026年第二季度2025年第二季度评述
综合营收1.019亿美元3970万美元包含了所收购Melinta产品组合整季度的贡献
DefenCath营收6610万美元增长主要由2025年中期引入的一家大型透析客户推动
Melinta产品组合营收3580万美元Melinta于2025年8月被收购
运营费用3420万美元1830万美元增长约87%,主要是由于合并后公司的成本基数变大
研发费用670万美元240万美元人员和临床试验成本增加,包括DefenCath的TPN项目
销售与市场营销费用1240万美元640万美元由于更大规模产品组合的人员和营销费用增加,增长约95%
一般及行政费用1510万美元950万美元包括与预期的诉讼费保险赔付相关的420万美元费用核减
净利润2600万美元1980万美元2026年第二季度包含1270万美元的所得税费用
摊薄后每股收益0.29美元0.28美元基于呈报的净利润
调整后EBITDA5870万美元2240万美元反映了更强劲的营收以及合并产品组合的贡献
现金及现金等价物2.567亿美元2026年第二季度末的余额
前六个月经营性现金流1.286亿美元4970万美元同比显著增加

业务与运营业绩

DefenCath与TDAPA过渡期后表现

CorMedix表示,7月份DefenCath的订单量与其2026年指引所依据的TDAPA后假设相符。大型透析提供商的订单量已趋于稳定,而小型提供商则出现了一定程度的流失,这两者均符合管理层的预期。

这项新的多年期协议意味着CorMedix目前已与美国所有前五大透析提供商达成了商业供应安排。最新签约的客户已下达首批订单,并计划于2026年第三季度启动试点。管理层预计该试点可能涉及几百家诊所,并有望在2027年进一步扩大使用规模。

CorMedix还修改了与主要客户的合同,涵盖了2026年第三和第四季度的定价。部分修改后的合同包含了2027年的定价和采购量承诺,从而提高了报销过渡期的确定性。

红蓝卡优势计划(Medicare Advantage)的签约仍是长期增长重点。管理层表示讨论正在推进,但指出签约周期可能较长。公司2026年的指引中未包含红蓝卡优势计划的任何贡献。

预计第四季度将在美国肾脏病学会肾脏周(ASN Kidney Week)和感染性疾病周(IDWeek)上展示更多DefenCath的真实世界证据。计划展示的内容包括U.S. Renal Care研究的最终结果,以及探讨DefenCath配合氯己定抗菌帽使用及其减少tPA使用相关的潜在临床和经济效益的外部研究。

Rezzayo预防项目

3期ReSPECT研究达到了FDA规定的第90天无真菌生存的主要终点,在预设边际内证明了其不劣于标准抗真菌方案。管理层还提到了次要安全性终点方面的良好表现,包括导致剂量调整、退组或终止研究的治疗期不良事件。

在与FDA举行新药申请前(pre-NDA)会议后,CorMedix正在与Mundipharma合作,支持在2026年第三季度提交Rezzayo用于预防侵袭性真菌病的补充新药申请(sNDA)。预计更多3期临床数据将于2026年第四季度的一个或多个医学会议上公布。

Mundipharma目前持有美国新药申请(NDA)。根据两家公司的协议,在预防适应症的补充新药申请获得批准后,所有权将转让给CorMedix。

DefenCath TPN研究

CorMedix提交了一项方案修改案,以放宽某些排除标准,并为其全肠外营养(TPN)3期研究启动了更多中心。管理层仍预计研究将于2028年完成。

管理层业绩指引

2026全年的指引区间状态
综合营收3.25亿至3.45亿美元重申
DefenCath营收1.75亿至1.95亿美元重申
调整后EBITDA1.25亿至1.40亿美元上调
现金运营费用1.45亿至1.55亿美元收窄;不包括股权激励等非现金支出

管理层表示,DefenCath正在向其全年营收区间的上限至中段迈进。随着对TDAPA后订单模式的了解更加清晰,该公司计划重新评估其指引。

与Rezzayo可能获批相关的计划投资包括预计新增15至20个商业和医学岗位。这些成本已反映在现金运营费用指引中。

风险与核心关注点

  • TDAPA后的订单模式可见度仍然有限,尤其是在小型透析提供商中。
  • 新签约的大型透析机构扩大采购的时间和规模将取决于其初始试点的结果。
  • 红蓝卡优势计划(Medicare Advantage)的签约周期较长,管理层假设2026年指引中不包含相关贡献。
  • 最终的终末期肾病(ESRD)报销规则可能与业绩会上传达的拟议季度机制有所不同。
  • Rezzayo最终的预防说明书仍有待FDA审核,管理层目前尚无法确定其最终适用范围。
  • Rezzayo的申报和监管审核时间取决于能否及时提交以及FDA是否受理。

分析师问答要点

  • 新透析提供商试点:管理层预计首批DefenCath试点可能覆盖几百家诊所,但表示要对2027年的潜在影响进行量化还为时过早。
  • 本季度销量:7月份大型提供商的销量保持稳定,而小型客户出现了一定流失。管理层将更广泛的采用和红蓝卡优势计划的签约视为销量增长的主要杠杆。
  • Rezzayo市场反馈:由于完整的3期数据尚未公布,CorMedix尚未开展广泛的市场调研。预计将在2026年第四季度公布更多数据。
  • 运营费用基准率:管理层表示尚未采取刻意的降本举措。第二季度一般及行政费用(G&A)减少了420万美元的保险赔付信用,其中包括主要与2026年第一季度产生的诉讼费相关的270万美元。
  • 商业化基础设施:管理层确认,在TDAPA后报销期来临之前,未采取任何缩减DefenCath销售和市场营销基础设施的行动。

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管理层陈述

Operator

Today's conference call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Dan Ferry from LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead.

分析师问答

Daniel Ferry

Good morning, and welcome to the CorMedix Second Quarter 2026 Earnings and Corporate Update Conference Call. Leading the call today is Joseph Todisco, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of CorMedix. We're joined by Elizabeth Masson-Hurlburt, EVP and Chief Operating and Commercial Officer, and Susan Blum, EVP and Chief Financial Officer. In addition, Beth Zelnick Kaufman, EVP and Chief Legal and Compliance Officer and Corporate Secretary, and Dr. Matt David, EVP and Chief Business Officer, are on the line and will be available during the Q&A session.

Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during the call, management may make what are known as forward-looking statements within the meaning set forth in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are statements other than statements of historical fact regarding management's expectations, beliefs, goals, and plans, about the company's prospects and future financial position.

Actual results may differ materially from the estimates and projections on which these statements are based due to a variety of important factors, including the risks and uncertainties described in greater detail in CorMedix filings with the SEC, which are available free of charge at the SEC's website or upon request from CorMedix. CorMedix may not actually achieve the goals or plans described in these forward-looking statements. An investor should not place undue reliance on these statements. CorMedix does not intend to update these forward-looking statements, except as required by law.

During this call, the company will discuss certain non-GAAP [indiscernible] on Form 8-K, filed with the SEC. This information is also available on the Investor Relations section of CorMedix's website. At this time, it is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Joseph Todisco, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of CorMedix. Joe, please go ahead.

Joseph Todisco

Thank you, Dan. Navigate the evolving post-TDAPA landscape, meaningfully advancing our high-value pipeline, highlighted by the positive Phase 3 ReSPECT data for Rezzayo, and now working collaboratively with Mundipharma towards their submission of the sNDA for Rezzayo in the prophylaxis of invasive fungal disease. And lastly, deploying our capital in a disciplined manner to drive long-term value for shareholders while building an increasingly diversified and resilient business.

We announced this morning second quarter consolidated revenue of $101.9 million and adjusted EBITDA of $58.7 million. Susan will provide more granular details of second quarter financial results. Today we also announced that we've signed a multi-year commercial supply agreement for DefenCath with an additional large dialysis organization, or LDO. With this agreement, CorMedix now has commercial supply agreements in place with all 5 of the top dialysis providers in the U.S.

The newly signed LDO has placed an initial order and will initially begin a pilot of DefenCath in the third quarter of this year with a potential opportunity to expand utilization in 2027. We view the signing of this agreement as an important milestone and validation of DefenCath's clinical value proposition with the largest providers in the U.S. dialysis market.

Turning to guidance, we are reaffirming our full-year 2026 revenue guidance with a range of $325 million to $345 million, and raising our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance to a new range of $125 million to $140 million. We will revisit guidance as the year progresses and as we gain additional visibility into post-TDAPA ordering patterns. While we're only a few weeks into the third quarter, DefenCath order volumes in July have tracked consistent with the post-TDAPA forecast underlying our financial guidance.

In addition to the new LDO agreement, we have signed contract amendments with our major customers covering third and fourth quarter 2026 pricing and in some instances pricing and volume commitments for 2027. These amendments give us improved visibility into pricing and utilization through year-end and are designed to keep patients on therapy through the reimbursement transition. We continue to focus significant internal resources on the DefenCath growth strategy through Medicare Advantage contracting, and I'm pleased with the progress of those discussions. Contracting cycles with these plans can be lengthy, and we have not assumed a contribution for Medicare Advantage in our 2026 guidance. Continually, Medicare Advantage represents a meaningful long-term growth avenue for DefenCath.

DefenCath's clinical value and its potential for meaningful downstream cost savings continue to be supported by a growing body of real-world evidence that our partners are publishing, and we anticipate additional data presentations this fall at the American Society of Nephrology's Kidney Week and at IDWeek.

Turning to our pipeline, we now have top-line results from the ReSPECT study, a Phase 3 clinical study evaluating Rezzayo for the prophylaxis of invasive fungal disease in adult immunosuppressed patients, or IFD. Assuming timely submission and FDA acceptance of the filing, we would anticipate agency action in the first half of the year, including the anticipated addition of 15 to 20 positions across both commercial and medical. These investments are sized to allow us to move quickly at approval while preserving flexibility if regulatory timelines shift and are already reflected in our narrowed full-year cash OPEX guidance of $145 million to $155 million. As a reminder, our cash OPEX guidance excludes non-cash charges such as stock-based compensation.

I would now like to turn the call over to our Chief Operating and Commercial Officer, Elizabeth Masson-Hurlburt, to provide an update on clinical activities. Liz, please go ahead.

Elizabeth Masson-Hurlburt

Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. As Joe mentioned, we were pleased to announce preliminary top-line results of the ReSPECT study at the end of April, and following a constructive pre-NDA meeting with the FDA, are working diligently with our partner, Mundipharma, in support of their submission of the sNDA for Rezzayo in prophylaxis in the third quarter.

As a reminder, the ReSPECT study met its primary endpoint for FDA of fungal-free survival at day 90, showing non-inferiority versus the standard antifungal regimen, or SAR, meeting the pre-specified non-inferiority margin. In addition, results showed a favorable profile across multiple secondary endpoints, most notably in treatment-emergent adverse events leading to dose reduction, interruption or withdrawal of study drugs, and study discontinuation.

As we stated previously, the objective with the ReSPECT study was to show comparable efficacy to standard of care while also demonstrating a favorable overall safety profile with regard to drug-drug interactions and toxicity. We believe the study has achieved this objective and that the results position Rezzayo, if approved, as a differentiated option for prophylaxis of IFD with a meaningful potential commercial opportunity. It's important to remember that this was a global study conducted by our partner, Mundipharma, who owns global IP rights and will pursue regulatory approvals outside of the United States.

Mundipharma is currently the holder of the U.S. NDA and under the terms of our agreement, transfers ownership of the NDA to CorMedix following approval of an sNDA for the prophylaxis indication, at which point CorMedix would own and control the U.S. assets. Under our agreement, the parties must work together on the publication of data and submissions to FDA. In terms of data publication, we currently expect additional data from the Phase 3 ReSPECT study to be published later this year at 1 or more medical conferences during the fourth quarter.

Turning to DefenCath, we also expect additional real-world evidence to be published in the fourth quarter, with multiple abstracts having been submitted to both ASN and IDWeek. Assuming acceptance, these publications will present the final results from the U.S. Renal Care real-world evidence study, which, at interim analysis, showed a meaningful impact on infection-related hospitalizations and catheter-related bloodstream infections, as well as 2 other external studies. The first will highlight the demonstrated efficacy of DefenCath when used in combination with chlorhexidine antimicrobial caps. The second is expected to highlight the clinical and economic benefits of DefenCath in the outpatient hemodialysis setting related to a meaningful reduction in tPA use by facilities.

All combined, we expect that these data will add to the growing body of evidence supporting the clinical and pharmacoeconomic value of DefenCath. Shifting gears to our Phase 3 TPN study, we recently submitted a protocol amendment to FDA that narrows certain exclusion criteria, which we believe can support increased enrollment in the coming months. And we have additionally activated additional sites. We will continue to update investors on our progress as we move through the year, and we continue to expect study completion in 2028. I would now like to turn the call over to Susan to discuss the company's second quarter financial results and financial position. Susan? Thank you.

Susan Blum

Thank you, Liz, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to announce our second quarter results which reflect strong execution across the business, continued demand for DefenCath, and the contribution from the acquired Melinta portfolio. As a reminder, because the Melinta acquisition closed in August 2025, the second quarter of 2026 is a full quarter of Melinta operations, while the second quarter of 2025 did not. Accordingly, year-over-year comparisons are heavily influenced by the broader product portfolio and cost structure of the combined company. We also filed our Form 10-Q this morning, and I encourage investors to review it for additional details and important disclosures.

Turning to the numbers, second quarter 2026 consolidated revenue was $101.9 million, compared with $39.7 million in the second quarter of 2025. Second quarter revenue included $66.1 million in sales of DefenCath and $35.8 million in revenue associated with the acquired Melinta portfolio. DefenCath sales increased year-over-year largely due to the onboarding of a large dialysis customer in mid-2025. Operating expenses were $34.2 million in the quarter, compared with $18.3 million in the second quarter of 2025, an increase of approximately 87%.

The increase of $15.9 million over the prior year period was driven primarily by the contribution of operating expenses from the Melinta acquisition for the full quarter and reflects the larger combined company. Research and development expenses were $6.7 million in the second quarter of 2026, compared with $2.4 million for the same period in 2025. The increase was due primarily to higher personnel and clinical trial services in support of ongoing clinical programs, including pediatric studies for several [indiscernible] and continued investments in the development of DefenCath for the TPN indications.

Sales and marketing expense increased approximately 95% to $12.4 million in the second quarter of 2026 from $6.4 million in the second quarter of 2025. The increase was due primarily to higher personnel costs associated with a larger product portfolio and related marketing programs. General and administrative expenses increased approximately 59% to $15.1 million in the second quarter of 2026 from $9.5 million in the second quarter of 2025. The increase was driven by higher costs associated with operating as a combined company following [indiscernible], including branded prescription drug fees and higher personnel, information technology, legal, and facilities costs. G&A expenses in the quarter also reflects a reduction to expense of $4.2 million, which represents the amount of expected insurance reimbursement of legal fees incurred by the company to support its ongoing securities litigation.

Of the $4.2 million credit reported in the second quarter, $2.7 million is the amount of credit that the company has incurred related to legal fees that were incurred in prior periods. On the bottom line, CorMedix recorded net income of $26.0 million, or $0.33 and $0.29 per basic and diluted share, respectively, in the second quarter of 2026, compared with net income of $19.8 million, or $0.29 and $0.28 per basic and diluted share, respectively, in the second quarter of 2025. In addition to net revenue and operating expenses, EPS was impacted by income tax expense of $12.7 million, as well as non-operating income and expenses net of approximately $4.2 million associated with the mark-to-market of marketable equity securities and contingent consideration, which reflects the approximate fair value of future milestone and royalties payable to former Melinta shareholders.

On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted EBITDA was $58.7 million for the second quarter of 2026, compared with adjusted EBITDA of $22.4 million in the second quarter of 2025. This adjusted EBITDA metric excludes non-cash items such as depreciation, amortization, and non-GAAP. We ended the second quarter with $256.7 million in cash and cash equivalents for this quarter.

For the first 6 months of 2026, net cash provided by operating activities was $128.6 million, compared with $49.7 million for the first 6 months of 2025. As Joe mentioned, we are confident in our fiscal year 2026 financial guidance, which includes full-year 2026 consolidated revenue of $325 million to $345 million, full-year DefenCath revenue guidance of $175 million to $195 million, and revised full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance of $125 million to $140 million. We continue to believe we are well positioned with a strong balance sheet, meaningful cash generation, and the financial flexibility to support our operating priorities, pipeline development, and shareholder value.

Joseph Todisco

We have a lot of opportunity ahead of us. CorMedix has built meaningful momentum through the first half of 2026 across all 3 pillars of our investment thesis. First, DefenCath continues to perform in line with our internal expectations at the TDAPA expiration, demonstrating durable underlying utilization, which we believe positions the franchise to remain a meaningful value generator following the reimbursement transition. Second, we're advancing a pipeline of high-value late-stage opportunities, including Rezzayo for prophylaxis and DefenCath in TPN, which could meaningfully expand our long-term revenue opportunity.

And third, we have delivered significant profitability in cash generation over the last year. $277.8 million of adjusted EBITDA over the trailing 12 months, and $267 million of combined cash and investments at quarter end allows us to reinvest in growth and pursue business development opportunities. We remain confident in our outlook for this year and our past sustained growth and profitability beyond it. This concludes our prepared remarks, and I'll ask the operator to open up now for questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Roanna Ruiz with Leerink. Please go ahead.

Roanna Ruiz

Hi, guys. This is Anna on for Roanna. Thanks so much for taking our question and congrats on the progress. I just wanted to check in on how the new multi-year agreement with the LDO is expected to impact your 2027 expectations and if you could give any color on how long it takes for a new site to reach this steady state production in line with other operators.

Joseph Todisco

Okay, thanks, Anna. So we just recently signed that agreement and they're rolling out a pilot. We're waiting to see kind of actually what they're looking for and we're hopeful for additional utilization. So once we get better visibility, we'll be in a position probably to talk more about 2027. There's a lot of variables that go into 2027 guidance. I don't expect we'll be in a position to comment on it until either late this year or early next year. So there's just a lot of pushes and pulls. We don't have any cause now to either adjust the top or bottom of that guidance, but as we move through the year and we get better visibility, we can provide updates.

Roanna Ruiz

Sure, thanks. And is any of that LDO pilot included in the 2026 guidance?

Joseph Todisco

No, no, right now it's, well obviously it's tracking the revenue, so it's within the revenue that we're seeing from the pilot is within our existing guidance. And for DefenCath, we are right now tracking to the kind of mid-top part of the DefenCath guidance. So let's see where we go through the year. And as I said, we'll update as we go.

Operator

Great. Thanks so much. Our next question comes from Leonid Timoshev with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Leonid Timoshev

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I want to ask on maybe if you can comment on what you're seeing in terms of volume growth in the existing channels thus far in this quarter, just given that we're in the post-TDAPA period now. And then related to that, just as a follow-up, how are you thinking about how you're going to be able to do that?

Joseph Todisco

So, look, in terms of volume growth, I think what we're seeing in July is really kind of stabilized volumes with the larger players, which is what we expected, and some attrition with the really small players, which is also what we expected, with some adoption and or Medicare Advantage contracting. I think we're cautiously optimistic we're making good progress. That, you know, perhaps we have something in place that takes effect early next year and starts to really impact the DefenCath volumes. Those are really the 2 levers that I see, you know, from the DefenCath standpoint. Now, the final ESRD rule, obviously they put out the proposed rule. It was a little bit different than what we were expecting in terms of the quarterly mechanism. I expect there's going to be a lot of comment on that. Not sure if that's actually what will make it into the final rule, but we'll expect the final rule.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Butler with Citizens JMP. Please go ahead.

Jason Butler

Hi, thanks for taking the questions. First one, can you give any more color on the size or scope of the pilot study being conducted by the new LDO? And then for Rezzayo and profi, can you talk about, you know, since you had the Phase 3 results, the feedback you're getting from potential prescribers, just what the results are? Perception to that data has been as you think about a potential label expansion. Thank you.

Joseph Todisco

Yes, look, right now the size and scope of the pilot, we've shifted initial order. We think it's a couple hundred clinics. We'll see where we can go from there. I don't want to get out over my skis on the pilot yet, Jason. So right now we're really happy to have finally gotten that LDO kind of over the hump and to the point of commercialization. So we're taking that 1 day by day. On the Rezzayo profi, the full data set is not yet out, so we really haven't been able to conduct a robust market research. As we said in the script, we are working with our partner, Mundipharma. We would expect it to be published later in the fourth quarter at 1 or more medical conferences. And once we have that data...

Operator

Great, thank you. Our next question comes from Serge Belanger with Needham & Company. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Serge Belanger

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess first on the new LDO, first, congratulations. It's just a pilot program. I guess my question is why did the LDO decide to enter an agreement now? Now when the product has been available for 2 years and I know the company had some meaningful efforts to sign them up. Secondly, on Rezzayo, following your FDA meeting, just curious what your expectations are for potential labeling of the product. I believe a Phase 3 trial was conducted in allogeneic HSCT patients. Curious if you'll be able to address the broad patient population that could benefit from Rezzayo. Thanks.

Joseph Todisco

Thanks, Serge. Look, on the new LDO, I really can't speak to the motivations of the company. Obviously, we have built a wealth of real-world evidence around the clinical efficacy and the pharmacoeconomic benefits of DefenCath, and as I said, we're happy that now they are choosing to begin implementation of DefenCath. On Rezzayo, look, it's going to be a label review issue. So until we work through this process, just coming out of the pre-NDA meeting, we don't have yet visibility of what the final label will be.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brandon Folkes with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Brandon Folkes

Hi, thanks for taking my question and congrats on the progress. Maybe just 1 from me. Can you just talk about the SG&A in the quarter and the updated guidance? Did you take any actions in the quarter, you know, whether it's especially on the sales and marketing infrastructure, right, just on DefenCath or the existing Melinta portfolio, just any color there on the expense discipline on the SG&A line. Thank you.

Joseph Todisco

Thanks, Brandon. I'll let Susan comment. We didn't take any deliberate actions. We're obviously trending a little bit light on the expense side. Some of the staffing, some of that we're bringing on or is coming in later in the year. But, yes.

Susan Blum

Also, we did, and we disclosed this in our Form 10-Q, we had a reduction of G&A for $4.2 million in the quarter. It's reflecting artificially low because of that. $2.7 million of that was incurred primarily in Q1 of 2026. So we added the deductible under our insurance policies for the litigation costs. So we were able to claim the reimbursement of those, and that's what we reported in the second quarter. So it essentially eliminated those litigation legal fees that we had incurred in Q1 and in Q2 during the second quarter. So if you think about the run rate for expenses it would be maybe it would be $2.7 million higher because of what we reversed from prior periods.

Brandon Folkes

That makes sense. It does. And then just to confirm, so, you know, there's been no action from the Department of Health on the DefenCath sales and marketing infrastructure ahead of sort of the lower re-embedding period? No, there have been no actions taken in the company. Perfect. Thank you very much and congrats on the progress. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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