Hội nghị công bố kết quả kinh doanh quý 2 niên độ tài chính 2027 của U-Haul (UHAL): Lợi nhuận tăng, CapEx giảm

Các điểm nhấn chính

• U-Haul Holding Company đã báo cáo lợi nhuận quý 2 năm tài chính 2027 đạt 137 triệu USD, tăng từ mức 106 triệu USD của cùng kỳ năm trước. Lợi nhuận trên mỗi cổ phiếu không có quyền biểu quyết tăng từ 0,54 USD lên 0,71 USD.
• EBITDA điều chỉnh của mảng Vận chuyển và Tự lưu kho (Moving and Storage) tăng 5 triệu USD lên 548 triệu USD, mặc dù biên EBITDA điều chỉnh giảm khoảng 90 điểm cơ bản.
• Doanh thu cho thuê thiết bị tăng 37 triệu USD, nhờ số lượng giao dịch nội thị tăng lên và doanh thu trên mỗi giao dịch được cải thiện ở cả thị trường nội thị lẫn một chiều.
• Doanh thu tự lưu kho tăng 16 triệu USD, tương đương khoảng 6%. Tỷ lệ lấp đầy cùng cửa hàng giảm 110 điểm cơ bản xuống 89,5%, trong khi doanh thu trung bình trên mỗi foot vuông có người thuê tăng gần 3% trên toàn bộ danh mục.
• U-Haul tiếp tục giảm mức độ thâm dụng vốn. Chi tiêu vốn ròng cho đội xe trong nửa đầu năm giảm 223 triệu USD, và ban lãnh đạo vẫn kỳ vọng mức giảm cả năm sẽ vượt 500 triệu USD.
• Chi phí cước vận chuyển và giao nhận tiếp tục là áp lực chi phí chính, làm tăng thêm gần 24,5 triệu USD vào chi phí quý 2. Ban lãnh đạo dự báo chi phí cước của toàn ngành sẽ không giảm trong ngắn hạn.

Dữ liệu tài chính cốt lõi

Kết quả kinh doanh và hoạt động

Cho thuê thiết bị

Tăng trưởng doanh thu cho thuê phản ánh mức tăng ở cả thị trường nội thị và một chiều. Số lượng giao dịch nội thị tăng, trong khi doanh thu trên mỗi giao dịch được cải thiện ở cả hai danh mục nhờ quãng đường di chuyển trên mỗi giao dịch dài hơn và doanh thu trên mỗi dặm cao hơn.

U-Haul đã bổ sung 63 địa điểm do công ty tự vận hành và mở rộng mạng lưới đại lý độc lập thêm hơn 500 địa điểm ròng trong giai đoạn từ tháng 9 năm 2025 đến tháng 9 năm 2026. Ban lãnh đạo xác định việc mở rộng đại lý là động lực nội bộ chính giúp công ty cải thiện việc phân bổ đội xe, đồng thời thừa nhận rằng tiến độ này đang chậm hơn so với kỳ vọng.

Xu hướng giao dịch trong tháng 10 mang lại tín hiệu tích cực ban đầu. Tính trên cơ sở 12 tháng gần nhất, số lượng giao dịch đã chuyển sang mức tăng trưởng dương, dù mức cải thiện chỉ vào khoảng 23.000 đến 24.000 giao dịch trên tổng quy mô hàng triệu giao dịch. Quãng đường chuyển nhà một chiều trung bình cũng đã cải thiện trong ba quý liên tiếp, cùng với mức tăng khiêm tốn của doanh thu một chiều trên mỗi dặm.

Tự lưu kho và U-Box

Giá thuê tự lưu kho trung bình của khách hàng mới tăng khoảng 2% so với cùng kỳ năm trước. Giá thuê của khách hàng rời đi vẫn thấp hơn khoảng 1% so với giá của khách hàng mới chuyển vào. Ban lãnh đạo lưu ý rằng một phần mức cải thiện doanh thu trên mỗi foot vuông có người thuê sẽ giảm dần khi mức cơ sở so sánh không còn bao gồm việc xử lý các phòng quá hạn thanh toán trong năm ngoái.

Trong quý, U-Haul đã bổ sung 10 địa điểm lưu kho với tổng diện tích cho thuê ròng đạt 1 triệu foot vuông. Công ty hiện có khoảng 5,5 triệu foot vuông đang được phát triển trên 110 dự án và thêm 5,5 triệu foot vuông khác trong kế hoạch chưa khởi công. Những con số này thấp hơn mức 6,5 triệu foot vuông đang tích cực phát triển và 7,7 triệu foot vuông trong kế hoạch của năm trước.

U-Box đã quay trở lại đà tăng trưởng doanh thu, với mức tăng ở cả lượng container vận chuyển lẫn lượng container lưu kho. Phần lớn khách hàng sử dụng dịch vụ lưu kho U-Box vẫn tiếp cận sản phẩm thông qua nhu cầu chuyển nhà. Ban lãnh đạo nhận thấy cơ hội lớn hơn để chuyển đổi nhu cầu tự lưu kho truyền thống sang sử dụng U-Box khi các cơ sở thông thường đã đầy.

Chi phí, khấu hao và thanh lý đội xe

Tổng chi phí nhân sự, thuế tài sản và trách nhiệm tự bảo hiểm tăng hơn 21 triệu USD. Chi phí cước vận chuyển và giao nhận tăng thêm gần 24,5 triệu USD, phần lớn đến từ mảng U-Box.

Chi phí khấu hao đội xe giảm 4,5 triệu USD. Lỗ từ việc thanh lý thiết bị cho thuê được cải thiện 34 triệu USD, đưa mức lỗ thanh lý trong quý về còn 4,2 triệu USD. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết sự cải thiện này là nhờ khoản khấu hao bổ sung đã được ghi nhận trong 12 tháng trước đó cùng với tiền thu từ bán lại duy trì ổn định. Các xe tải chở hàng mới hơn cũng có chi phí ban đầu thấp hơn, do đó chi phí khấu hao cũng thấp hơn.

Mua lại cổ phiếu

Trong quý, U-Haul đã mua lại 149.927 cổ phiếu phổ thông có quyền biểu quyết với giá 10,1 triệu USD và 1.095.478 cổ phiếu phổ thông không có quyền biểu quyết với giá 68,2 triệu USD. Hạn mức mua lại còn lại đạt gần 224 triệu USD tại thời điểm diễn ra cuộc họp công bố thông tin. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết đang cân đối giữa việc mua lại cổ phiếu với nhu cầu duy trì thanh khoản trong bối cảnh thị trường tài chính biến động.

Định hướng của ban lãnh đạo

• Ban lãnh đạo tiếp tục dự báo mức giảm hơn 500 triệu USD một chút đối với tổng vốn đầu tư ròng vào đội xe cả năm.
• Chi tiêu cho bất động sản liên quan đến U-Box dự kiến sẽ tiếp tục xu hướng giảm khi công ty hoàn tất việc phủ sóng kho bãi tại các thị trường trọng điểm. Kế hoạch xây dựng không gian có mái che hiện chỉ bằng khoảng một nửa so với mức dự tính cách đây một hoặc hai năm.
• Tốc độ chi tiêu phát triển mảng tự lưu kho đang tiến gần đến mức mà ban lãnh đạo coi là trạng thái ổn định.
• Ban lãnh đạo kỳ vọng chi phí trách nhiệm pháp lý liên quan đến đội xe sẽ có biến động thuận lợi đáng kể trong nửa cuối năm tài chính 2027.
• Theo ban lãnh đạo, doanh thu tháng 10 đang có xu hướng cao hơn đôi chút so với kết quả của quý 2.

Rủi ro và các yếu tố cần theo dõi

• Các đơn vị vận tải hàng hóa dự kiến sẽ không hạ giá cước trong ngắn hạn, khiến biên lợi nhuận của U-Box tiếp tục chịu rủi ro từ chi phí vận chuyển ở mức cao.
• Tỷ lệ lấp đầy lưu kho cùng cửa hàng giảm xuống 89,5% và lượng khách chuyển vào ròng vẫn thấp hơn mục tiêu của ban lãnh đạo.
• Ban lãnh đạo hiện chưa nhận thấy động lực mang tính cơ cấu nào từ nhu cầu bên ngoài ở cả mảng vận chuyển lẫn tự lưu kho.
• Chương trình mở rộng đại lý chưa tiến triển đủ nhanh để ban lãnh đạo có thể đưa ra đánh giá cuối cùng về quy mô đội xe tối ưu.
• Một phần mức cải thiện giá dịch vụ tự lưu kho so với cùng kỳ năm trước dự kiến sẽ mất dần khi các lợi ích từ kỳ trước liên quan đến việc xử lý phòng quá hạn thanh toán không còn tác động so sánh.

Điểm nhấn phiên hỏi đáp với chuyên gia phân tích

Ban lãnh đạo cho biết việc giảm thiểu chi phí cước của U-Box dựa vào ba biện pháp: cải thiện quy trình nội bộ, phản ánh chi phí vận chuyển vào giá bán cho khách hàng và mở rộng chương trình chia sẻ tải trọng (load-share). Chương trình này kết hợp các lô hàng U-Box với khách hàng thuê xe tải một chiều, mang lại cho những khách hàng này mức chiết khấu giá thuê để vận chuyển container với chi phí thấp hơn so với các đơn vị vận tải thông thường.

Về cơ cấu doanh thu của công ty, ban lãnh đạo nhấn mạnh tính chất định kỳ của mảng tự lưu kho và mảng lưu kho của U-Box. Khách hàng sử dụng dịch vụ lưu kho trung bình duy trì trên 30 tháng. Khi tỷ trọng cho thuê thiết bị trong tổng doanh thu giảm dần, ban lãnh đạo kỳ vọng biên lợi nhuận sẽ được cải thiện về mặt cơ cấu.

Ban lãnh đạo cũng xác định tăng trưởng số lượng giao dịch và số dặm trên mỗi giao dịch là các chỉ số chính cho thấy khả năng phục hồi hoạt động. Xu hướng gần đây của cả hai chỉ số đều đã cải thiện, nhưng công ty vẫn chưa đưa ra nhận định này như một triển vọng nhu cầu chính thức.

Trong giai đoạn thấp điểm theo mùa, các đội ngũ thực địa sẽ tập trung vào hoạt động lưu kho, đánh giá của khách hàng và việc bảo trì trì hoãn. U-Haul cũng đang triển khai các công cụ AI để hỗ trợ nhân viên, nhưng ban lãnh đạo khẳng định chưa có quy trình hoặc thủ tục nào được bàn giao hoàn toàn tự động cho AI.

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Phần trình bày của ban lãnh đạo

Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to U-Haul Holding Company's Second Quarter Fiscal 2027 Investor Call. [Operator Instructions]

I will now hand the conference over to Sebastien Reyes. Please go ahead.

Sebastien Reyes

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the U-Haul Holding Company Second Quarter Fiscal 2027 Investor Call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that certain of the statements during this call, including without limitation, statements regarding revenue, expenses, income and general growth of our business may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended.

Forward-looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. Certain factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. For a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may affect the company's business and future operating results, please refer to the company's public SEC filings and Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2026, which is on file with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

I'll now turn the call over to Jason Berg, Chief Financial Officer of U-Haul Holding Company.

Jason Berg

Thanks, Sebastien. Good morning to everyone. I'm speaking to you today from our home office here in Phoenix, Arizona. Our CEO, Joe Shoen, is speaking at an industry event today and is unavailable for this call. Here in the office with me in addition to Sebastien are Sam Shoen and J.T. Taylor, the President of our U-Haul International subsidiary.

Yesterday, we reported second quarter earnings of $137 million compared to earnings of $106 million for the same quarter last year. In terms of earnings per share, that's $0.71 per nonvoting share this year compared to $0.54 last year. From here on out, all of my references in the prepared remarks are going to be for the second quarter of this year versus last year, unless otherwise noted.

Earnings before interest, taxes and depreciation, what we call adjusted EBITDA at the Moving and Storage segment increased $5 million for the quarter to $548 million. Included in our release and the financial supplement that we post on our website is a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to GAAP earnings.

Starting off with equipment rental revenue. For the quarter, it rose $37 million with gains in both our in-town and one-way markets. Within that, we saw in-town transactions increase, while revenue per transaction improved across both in-town and one-way. This was driven by more miles per transaction and higher revenue per mile. By the end of September of this year versus last year, between those 2 dates, we added 63 new company-operated locations, and we increased our independent dealer network by a net total of over 500 locations.

October revenue has trended a bit higher than what our second quarter results were. Capital expenditures for new rental equipment were $466 million. That's a $275 million decrease compared to the same period last year, while proceeds from the sales of retired rental equipment went down by $21 million to a total of $198 million. For the first 6 months of the fiscal year, we are down $223 million now on net fleet CapEx. We're still projecting a decrease of a little over $500 million for net fleet investments by the end of the fiscal year.

Storage revenues were up $16 million. That's about a 6% increase. Average revenue per occupied foot for our total portfolio, so I'm including both same-store and lease-up locations, improved by just under 3%. Some portion of this year-over-year improvement is going to dissipate now that we're a full year past the cleanup of delinquent rooms. Our average new customer rental rates have increased by about 2% year-over-year, while rates for customers leaving are still about 1% lower than what the move-in rates are.

Same-store occupancy decreased by 110 basis points to 89.5%. We're seeing net move-in and move-out activity consistent but remains behind what our goal is.

During the first 6 months of fiscal 2027, we invested $432 million in real estate acquisitions along with the development of self-storage and U-Box warehouse. That's a $94 million decrease over the first 6 months of last year. Just in the second quarter, we added 10 new locations with storage totaling 1 million net rentable square feet.

We currently have approximately 5.5 million new square feet being developed across 110 projects. And our pipeline of projects not yet started is about 5.5 million square feet as well. To put that in context, last year, active development was about 6.5 million square feet and the pipeline was 7.7 million. So we're making progress in moderating the pipeline of new storage projects. The pace of our development spending is approaching likely our steady state.

Moving to storage. Operating expenses increased $54 million. Compared to the same quarter last year, our adjusted EBITDA margin went down by about 90 basis points, but we did have an improvement in our operating margin, largely due to depreciation. Personnel, property taxes and self-insurance liability costs increased by a combined just over $21 million. The issues that arose in the first quarter with freight and shipping costs continued into the second quarter, increasing by just under $24.5 million.

As an industry, I don't see freight carriers lowering costs in the near term. Our U-Box team, which accounts for the largest portion of this variance is working to make sure that our customer rates reflect the reality of the situation as well as continuing to advance our load share program that teams U-Box shipments with our one-way truck rental customers. While we're on U-Box, we saw the program return to revenue growth this quarter. We had an increase in the number of containers shipped as well as the number of containers in storage.

We had fleet depreciation reach an inflection point that we've been talking about for a while now. It decreased by $4.5 million in the quarter, while losses from the disposal of rental equipment decreased $34 million, resulting in a loss of $4.2 million for the quarter. The equipment that we sold had a lower cost, primarily from the additional depreciation that we've recognized over the last 12 months, while proceeds in the resale market have been resilient.

The newer cargo vans that we've added to the rental fleet the last 9 months have a lower initial cost, and therefore, we're seeing lower depreciation charges. As of September 30 this year, we had cash along with availability from existing loan facilities at the moving and storage segment of $1.335 billion.

A quick update on the share repurchase program. During the second quarter, we repurchased 149,927 shares of voting common stock at a cost of $10.1 million, and 1,095,478 shares of nonvoting common stock at a cost of $68.2 million. As of today, the maximum amount that we can still repurchase is just under $224 million. Given the volatility in -- that we're seeing in finance markets, we're balancing our plan to maintain adequate liquidity with our belief that our common stock and in particular, the nonvoting shares continue to be undervalued.

Before I hand the call back to our operator, I wanted to reiterate a couple of very important trends that give me optimism in the quarter. First, revenue growth, while slower than we'd like to see, has been durable and steady. Second, the adjustments that we've made over the last year plus to slow our growth CapEx plans for both fleet and self-storage are showing tangible results in lower spending and depreciation.

And finally, on the expense front, our largest expense, personnel is in line with revenue growth. We should also run a sizable positive variance on fleet liability costs over the second half of this year. And outside of the freight shipping costs, our other expenses really are not out of line.

With that, I'd like to hand the call back to our operator, Connor, to begin the question-and-answer portion of the call.

Operator

The first question is from the line of Steven Ramsey of Thompson Research Group. A reminder to unmute yourself locally.

Phần hỏi đáp

Steven Ramsey

Can you hear me at this point?

Jason Berg

Yes, Steven, we can hear you. Thanks for your patience.

Steven Ramsey

Okay. Great. And thank you for the color so far. With self-storage up 6% and U-Box storage growing as well, can you talk about if U-Box storage is growing faster than self-storage, obviously, at a lower base? And are there any observations you're seeing on the ground why customers are choosing one or the other when they have the option for both? Or is this more reflective of internal efforts to guide customers to one or the other?

Jason Berg

Well, we certainly have efforts in place to try to guide customers towards the U-Box storage product. I would say that still the majority of the storage customers that we're seeing in U-Box are the result of them using the product for a move. And then it goes into storage. So as we increase the number of moves, we're seeing the number of containers and storage increase. Anecdotally, we have some centers across the system that have figured this out and are doing a fantastic job of converting storage customers when they're full on traditional self-storage, converting them into U-Box containers. But I wouldn't say that, that's been a meaningful increase across the system yet. That's a big opportunity for us.

Steven Ramsey

Okay. That's great. And then it appears that U-Box covered warehouse space growth continues to outpace U-Box revenue growth even with both moving and storage usage growing. Is that the right perception? And if it is, do you expect U-Box investment to also be reduced in the coming quarters?

Jason Berg

Yes. As I look at the pipeline, the projected covered spaces that we're looking to build are probably about half of what they were a year ago or 2 years ago. And that's -- that's a function of we've been building out this network of warehouses across the country to get them into areas where we have, I don't know if they really want to call it this, but I'll call it a hub-and-spoke type situation where customers can access the U-Box at just about any U-Haul location, but then the storage of it takes place at these larger warehouses that we've been building.

And as we work our way through all of the major markets that need warehouses, we're not going to have to go back in and build more warehouses. So I fully expect the spend on U-Box-related real estate to continue to trend down.

Steven Ramsey

Okay. That's helpful. And then last one for me. Freight and shipping costs, again, a pressure with U-Box. Can you talk about where you see that going in the next couple of quarters or settling out?

Jason Berg

Yes, a few things. There's -- what I've focused on a lot in the calls here is just the increase in cost from an industry perspective. I think what our team here at the home office and out in the field is focused on is things that they can do a little bit better to make sure that they're not causing a situation where we have to pay more for freight. So I think we're making progress on that front, and we're going to optimize the freight costs as much as we can, even though they're going to go up.

So first, we're trying to make sure our processes are bulletproof, so we're not causing an increase in freight expense. Second, we're then trying to make sure that the realities of the freight cost for shipping these boxes around is appropriately reflected in the rates that we're charging customers, right? These shipping costs are not unique to us. They're universal to anyone that's shipping containers around the country. So everyone has the same challenge, and we should be pricing appropriately.

And then third, we have a program internally where it was a program that Sam developed years ago that we group U-Box shipments that are going to markets that we also have one-way customers driving U-Haul trucks to and the U-Haul customers then for a deal on their truck rental, take the boxes with them. And that's another way of doing shipping for us. And there's a certain amount more that we need to compensate customers for because of the increase in fuel prices, but it's not nearly the same increase that we're seeing in over-the-road carriers.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steven Ralston with Zacks.

Steven Ralston

Congratulations on another record revenue quarter. Just one question for me today. I dug into the composition of those total revenues, and I realized I need to get a better gauge on the operating leverage of the self-moving rental business. I noticed that the peak quarter for the self-moving rental revenue is actually the second quarter of fiscal 2022 when moving activity was elevated due to COVID. And since then, that peak in that segment, self-moving revenue is actually down 2.6%.

The growth drivers that contributed to the record revenue quarter this quarter were self-storage, which is up almost 71% over that period since the second quarter of fiscal '22 and other revenue, which is mainly U-Box, which is up about 30%. As a result, together, both lines make up now over 25% of total U-Haul revenue. However, it really looks like the self-moving business looks well positioned for a leveraged growth phase. The fleet is relatively young and depreciation is at a cyclical peak. Much as it was in 2 other periods when U-Haul stock dramatically outperformed, one, starting, I think, in 2004 and the other one in 2009.

I wish Joe was here to answer this with a historical perspective, but are there any similarities between those periods and today other than the peak in depreciation? And even if not, what were the drivers then that signaled an earnings growth phase was beginning?

Jason Berg

Great question. I appreciate you going back in history like that. The -- in both of those situations, I think you can attribute a lot of the success that we had back then to management focus. So the 2004 time frame, we were coming out of a financial restructuring process. There was a lot of noise that kind of took focus off of what the core operations were. The fleet was allowed to age a bit. That was in the early 2000s, and then by 2004 and then '09. And then I also think of '16, it's times where we had the fleet in excellent shape.

And then we did something that expanded our reach. And I would say today, what we're focused on in order for trying to create our own catalyst here is this dealer expansion program, right? Because if we look out into the marketplace, I don't think there's anything either on the self-storage front or on the moving front that looks like a structural demand catalyst out with the customers. So then it's just us having to do a better job of trying to place the trucks and the dealer program is that.

Is it going to result in as big of improvements as we saw back then? I think the jury is still out on that. We're up a net 500 dealers. I think we would have liked to have been up more than that by this time. We made comments 9 months ago that we're going to see after the summer months, how the dealer program was able to absorb the fleet. And I don't think we made enough progress on the dealer front to really make a final call on the fleet size. So I think that, that call is going to be pushed out a little bit.

So Steve, I don't know if I answered the question to your liking. I'm sure Joe would have done a little bit better job at that. But I think in each of those instances, there was a degree of management focus that we're able to get back to because I don't recall a significant event outside of the COVID run-up that would cause the increase in demand. And I may just be forgetting it.

Steven Ralston

Thank you for reminding me about the catalyst of the dealer expansion program. Could you make any comment on this dichotomy of the growth rates between the core self-moving rental business and those 2 top line growth engines? It personally surprised me when I started looking at the numbers.

Jason Berg

Yes. I think what excites us about the evolution of the company is the stickiness of the nonmoving revenue, right? So if you think about storage and then part of U-Box, which is the storage component, there's -- when you get a customer, there's an ongoing annuity, right, that they stay in the product for a longer period of time, whereas a move, you make the move and then you're done and then you get ready to help the next person, whereas in storage, they're staying in excess of 30 months on average.

So I think we're excited about that piece of it. And that's why I have a slide in the investor deck that shows as that ratio of equipment rental revenue declines as a percent of the total, I anticipate our margins continuing to improve structurally.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Jeff Kauffman with Citizens Bank.

Jeffrey Kauffman

Congratulations on the improvements that are there, I think, despite a slow revenue market. I want to follow a little bit along the last question. So I'll throw it out to you, Jason, Sam and J.T. You mentioned that you don't see any structural demand catalysts like we had in COVID, right? But nobody saw COVID coming. But yet, it does feel like a lot of other companies that I'm watching are coming off the bottom of a long cycle of slow growth, no growth mediocrity.

We are starting to see depreciation and gains on sale normalize. You're working to get occupancy a little higher, and that is working, maybe not as quick as we'd hope. But if you take a look at previous cycle bottoms and kind of leveling out toward higher growth, are there certain canaries in the coal mine that tend to show themselves when we're getting back to a more normalized growth rate? And absent kind of the big mega catalysts that are out there, are you seeing anything that convinces you things are getting slightly better or slightly worse in the external environment?

Jason Berg

Sure. The data points that I look at internally to kind of see which direction the ship is headed, one would be just overall transactions, right? The last couple of years, we've survived a lot on trying to recoup the cost increases that we've faced by passing some of that along to customers. And that's been buoying up revenue. Our -- when transactions begin to turn, I think that, that's a sign that business should be improving for us. And the last 2 months or so, we've had a pretty good transaction growth.

And I look at kind of a trailing 12-month transaction count and compare it to the previous 12 months. And we've been running negative on that measurement here for quite some time. And in October, we shifted over to positive. Now it's several 23,000, 24,000 transactions on millions, but it's headed in the right direction. And I would say any time that we start to see transaction growth, that has typically been a positive sign for us in the long term.

Another point that I would say is miles per transaction. We've been running now for several years kind of negative miles per transaction numbers on the one-way fleet. And now we've compiled 3 quarters in a row where we're starting to see small improvements in the average distance of people's moves. We -- and positively with that is we also saw a little bit of an improvement on revenue per mile for one-way. And typically, the longer the move that you get, the harder it is to pick up revenue per mile, we saw both go up. So those are 2 things that internal statistics that we look at that typically would say something right is happening underneath.

Jeffrey Kauffman

And then just kind of taking that a little further in the extension, and thank you for that granularity. So we're getting out of the stronger seasonal quarters. We're heading into the more moderate quarters of the year. What do you think in terms of when you look at where the company is now, are there hatches to batten down further? Are there projects that you want to engage in that will make things stronger for the upturn?

Are there things -- and I know depreciation is starting to settle in the right direction, gain on sale starting to settle in the right direction. We've slowed down growth in the storage business. But as we head into the slower seasonal time of the year, are there opportunities that are out there for you to take advantage of?

Jason Berg

Absolutely. This is the time that our field team starts to get a little bit of a breather from the hectic pace of the moving season, and they can start to focus on a few other things, making sure that the storage product at their location is cleaned up the way that it should be, perhaps finishing some projects and generally focusing on other items that in the heat of the moment, we don't want to laden them with one more thing to do.

So this is normally the time that we can get to other projects. And Joe and J.T. are communicating with the team, I think storage is a big focus of that right now as far as making sure we're reading customer reviews and addressing them at a location-by-location basis because things just tend to get a little bit behind, especially if the location is heavy on equipment rental, there's things that you maybe just don't get a garage door fixed right away or there's something else falls behind on the maintenance side, we can address those items. And then as far as other things we're doing here at the home office, the rollout of our teams here utilizing the AI tools that we have is really exciting. We haven't handed any processes or procedures over to AI on an autonomous basis where it's doing it itself. But we're working hand in glove with the tool and the output that at least what I'm seeing is really powerful.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

Jason Berg

Well, I appreciate everyone attending. I'm sure that on the next call, Joe will be able to be here for -- to answer some of the other questions I might not have been able to for you. Otherwise, our team looks forward to building on the success of this quarter. I think it was a really hopeful quarter, and then we'll report back to you on our progress the first week of February. Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.