Cuộc họp báo cáo kết quả kinh doanh Quý 3/2026 của Chegg (CHGG): Xóa sạch nợ, nỗ lực thúc đẩy khả năng có việc làm đạt tiến triển

Thông tin quan trọng

• Chegg đã báo cáo doanh thu quý 3/2026 đạt 46,5 triệu USD và EBITDA điều chỉnh đạt 5,4 triệu USD, tương ứng với biên lợi nhuận 12%.
• Dòng tiền tự do đạt 5,5 triệu USD. Chegg kết thúc quý với 43,6 triệu USD tiền mặt và các khoản đầu tư sau khi hoàn trả toàn bộ nợ chuyển đổi còn lại.
• Chi phí hoạt động phi GAAP giảm 36% so với cùng kỳ năm ngoái xuống 31,2 triệu USD, trong khi chi phí vốn giảm 71% xuống 1,7 triệu USD.
• Chegg đang tái định vị từ hỗ trợ giải bài tập về nhà sang nâng cao khả năng tìm việc làm. Nền tảng internships.com của công ty đã thu hút hơn 100.000 lượt truy cập trong chưa đầy 8 tuần sau khi ra mắt vào tháng 9.
• Ban lãnh đạo kỳ vọng mảng đào tạo kỹ năng sẽ tạo ra doanh thu hơn 65 triệu USD trong năm 2026. Chegg đã ký kết với 11 đối tác phân phối mới kể từ đầu năm.
• Đối với quý 4/2026, ban lãnh đạo dự kiến doanh thu đạt 38 triệu đến 40 triệu USD, biên lợi nhuận gộp đạt 46% đến 48% và EBITDA điều chỉnh đạt khoảng 1 triệu USD.

Dữ liệu tài chính quan trọng

Chegg đang hướng tới mục tiêu giảm hơn 60% chi phí vốn cho cả năm 2026. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết việc cắt giảm chi phí và sử dụng AI để tinh gọn hoạt động đã góp phần làm giảm chi phí.

Kết quả kinh doanh và hoạt động

Mảng hỗ trợ giải bài tập truyền thống của Chegg tiếp tục suy giảm đúng như dự kiến. Công ty đang hướng các khoản đầu tư vào khả năng tìm việc làm, kỹ năng cho lực lượng lao động và học ngôn ngữ.

Nền tảng internships.com mới cung cấp tính năng ghép nối việc làm cá nhân hóa, tối ưu hóa sơ yếu lý lịch, ứng tuyển một lần nhấp, chuẩn bị phỏng vấn, đánh giá kỹ năng và kết nối mạng lưới được tuyển chọn. Chegg có kế hoạch bổ sung 70.000 tin tuyển dụng đầu sự nghiệp khi nền tảng mở rộng vượt ra ngoài phạm vi thực tập sang các vị trí khởi đầu công việc.

Ban lãnh đạo cho biết mức độ tương tác trên nền tảng đang tăng lên ở các hoạt động tải sơ yếu lý lịch, tìm kiếm, tạo thư ứng tuyển và nộp đơn xin việc. Tuy nhiên, sáng kiến này vẫn đang ở giai đoạn đầu và các hoạt động hiện tại vẫn dựa trên con số còn khiêm tốn.

Chegg cũng đã ký kết các chương trình thí điểm với Cao đẳng Charleston, Cao đẳng Salem và Đại học Radford. Các chương trình thí điểm này cung cấp cho các trường dữ liệu về kết quả việc làm và trao cho các sinh viên được lựa chọn quyền truy cập tạm thời vào nền tảng. Chegg dự định hợp tác với bộ phận hỗ trợ việc làm của các trường đại học để đánh giá mức độ sử dụng của sinh viên và kết quả việc làm.

Trong mảng đào tạo kỹ năng, Chegg đã ký kết với 11 đối tác phân phối mới trong năm 2026, so với kỳ vọng ban đầu là 4. Công ty cho biết hầu hết các đợt triển khai với đối tác phải đến cuối quý 3 hoặc đầu quý 4 mới bắt đầu, khiến đóng góp doanh thu dài hạn của họ khó đánh giá ở giai đoạn này.

Chegg cũng báo cáo sự tăng trưởng trở lại của sản phẩm học ngôn ngữ trên cả kênh B2B và B2C. Nội dung kỹ năng làm việc đã được ra mắt cho các tài khoản đăng ký trả phí nói tiếng Anh và đang mở rộng sang tiếng Tây Ban Nha, tiếng Pháp, tiếng Đức và tiếng Ý.

Dự báo của ban lãnh đạo

Ban lãnh đạo kỳ vọng nền tảng tìm kiếm việc làm sẽ đóng góp rõ nét hơn trong năm 2027. Việc phân bổ vốn sẽ tiếp tục tập trung vào khả năng tạo dòng tiền tự do, củng cố bảng cân đối kế toán và đầu tư có chọn lọc.

Chegg đang đánh giá cả tăng trưởng tự thân và các thương vụ thâu tóm tiềm năng. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết bất kỳ giao dịch nào cũng phải phù hợp với chiến lược tìm kiếm việc làm, hỗ trợ tăng trưởng và cải thiện khả năng sinh lời.

Rủi ro và các vấn đề cần theo dõi

• Mảng hỗ trợ giải bài tập truyền thống tiếp tục suy giảm và ban lãnh đạo dự kiến mảng này sẽ thu hẹp dần theo thời gian.
• Chegg cho biết AI đã ảnh hưởng đáng kể đến mảng kinh doanh truyền thống của mình, mặc dù công ty cũng đang sử dụng AI để giảm chi phí và phát triển các sản phẩm mới.
• Nền tảng tìm kiếm việc làm vừa mới ra mắt và các xu hướng tương tác vẫn dựa trên dữ liệu hạn chế ở giai đoạn đầu.
• Các quan hệ đối tác phân phối dịch vụ đào tạo kỹ năng cần thời gian để chuyển từ khâu ký hợp đồng sang triển khai, đưa vào danh mục sản phẩm và sự đón nhận của nhân viên.
• Đối tác đào tạo kỹ năng ban đầu của Chegg không tăng trưởng hoặc sụt giảm do kết quả kinh doanh riêng của chính đối tác đó.
• Ban lãnh đạo thừa nhận môi trường đào tạo và phát triển B2B diện rộng đang gặp nhiều thách thức trong cuộc thảo luận với các nhà phân tích.

Điểm nổi bật trong phần Hỏi & Đáp với nhà phân tích

Các nhà phân tích tập trung vào mức độ tương tác trên internships.com, các chương trình thí điểm tại trường đại học, tốc độ triển khai đối tác đào tạo kỹ năng và việc phân bổ vốn.

Ban lãnh đạo cho biết internships.com đang thu hút lượng truy cập tự nhiên và việc tải sơ yếu lý lịch là một bước tương tác then chốt vì nó cho phép cung cấp các dịch vụ cá nhân hóa do AI hỗ trợ. Theo công ty, lượng truy cập hàng ngày đã tăng khoảng 10 lần so với thời điểm ra mắt nền tảng.

Các chương trình thí điểm tại đại học được thiết kế để kiểm tra xem liệu Chegg có thể cung cấp cho các trường dữ liệu việc làm tốt hơn và giúp sinh viên tìm được công việc thực tập cũng như việc làm chính thức hay không. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết các trường đại học chưa đưa ra những mối lo ngại trong quá khứ vốn từng hạn chế khả năng hợp tác trực tiếp của Chegg với các trường.

Về mảng đào tạo kỹ năng, ban lãnh đạo cho biết các đối tác như Coursera đang bắt đầu ghi nhận tiến triển, nhưng còn quá sớm để định lượng giá trị của từng quan hệ đối tác riêng lẻ. Chegg dự kiến sẽ có cái nhìn rõ ràng hơn trong cuộc họp công bố kết quả kinh doanh tiếp theo.

Khi nợ đã được xóa bỏ, công ty có kế hoạch ưu tiên tạo ra dòng tiền đồng thời xem xét các thương vụ thâu tóm có chọn lọc. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết họ đang xem xét các tài sản thiếu vốn hoặc bị bỏ dở có thể tích hợp vào nền tảng tìm kiếm việc làm của Chegg, nhưng nhấn mạnh rằng công ty không vội vã hoàn tất một giao dịch.

Toàn văn Biên bản Cuộc họp Công bố Kết quả Kinh doanh

Toàn văn cuộc gọi công bố kết quả kinh doanh

Phần trình bày của ban lãnh đạo

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Chegg, Inc. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Tracey Ford, VP of Investor Relations for Chegg. Thank you, Tracey. You may begin.

Tracey Ford

Good morning. Thank you for joining Chegg's Third Quarter 2026 Conference Call. On today's call are Dan Rosensweig, President and CEO; and David Longo, Chief Financial Officer. A copy of our earnings press release, along with our investor presentation, is available on our Investor Relations website, investor.chegg.com. A replay of this call will also be available on our website. We routinely post information on our website and intend to make important announcements on our media center website at chegg.com/mediacenter. We encourage you to make use of these resources.

Before we begin, I would like to point out that during the course of this call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding future events, including the future financial and operating performance of the company. These forward-looking statements are subject to material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. We caution you to consider the important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements.

In particular, we refer you to the cautionary language included in today's earnings release and the risk factors described in Chegg's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission as well as our other filings with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements that we make today are based on assumptions that we believe to be reasonable as of this date. We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events.

During this call, we will present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Our GAAP results and GAAP-to-non-GAAP reconciliations can be found in our earnings press release and on the investor slide deck found on our IR website, investor.chegg.com. We also recommend you review the investor data sheet, which is also posted on our IR website.

Now I will turn the call over to Dan.

Daniel Rosensweig

Thank you, Tracey, and thanks, everyone, for joining Chegg's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. Over the last year, our focus was rearchitecting our cost structure, accumulating cash, eliminating our debt and positioning Chegg to return to growth. I'm happy to report that the balance sheet reset is complete. In Q3, we had revenue of $46.5 million, adjusted EBITDA of $5.4 million and ended the quarter with $43.6 million in cash and no debt.

Core to our reinvention, we have repositioned Chegg from being a homework help company to an employability company focused on helping students find internships, assess and learn relevant job skills and find full-time employment. Our mission is simple: to help people get the jobs they want and build the careers they deserve. David will take you through the financials in more detail, but I want to walk you through what we are building.

Higher education is going through a dramatic transformation. But one thing that will never change is that students go to college to get a job. Economic uncertainty and anxiety around AI have made the path to a first job even more daunting for students and the need for what we are building even more urgent. In September, we launched our new employability platform on internships.com, a comprehensive experience that gives students personalized job matching, resume tailoring, one-click apply, interview prep, skills assessment and curated network connections, all in one place.

We have rapidly expanded the platform's capabilities and will soon be adding 70,000 early-career listings as we move beyond internships into entry-level roles. Since launch, we have had over 100,000 visitors to the site, a clear signal that employability is top of mind for students and their families. We recently rolled out our first marketing campaign for internships.com, both as a stand-alone product and bundled with Chegg, and the early results are encouraging.

At the same time, we are seeing our first institutional momentum. Since September, we have signed pilot programs with the College of Charleston, Salem College, Radford University, and we have several more schools set to sign in coming weeks. The reason is straightforward as institutions, colleges and universities increasingly know that their own success is measured on whether or not their graduates get jobs.

We are in active conversations with a meaningful number of schools, and we believe that the B2I channel is just getting started. Every time Chegg has evolved to serve students' most critical needs, it has entered a new growth chapter. This is that moment. We will continue to expand our offering through 2027 and beyond, but the foundation is live and the momentum is real.

As we expand how we serve students on the path from learning to earning, we continue to invest in our skills platform, which, thanks to AI, we are able to develop and launch more programs and more capabilities rapidly for more partners at a much lower cost.

Our multichannel approach continues to build, and we believe we are on a path to consistent growth in that business. We have signed 11 new distribution partners since the start of the year, including our recent announcement of PowerTrain. In Q3, we made significant product enhancements on how we build and deliver skills programs for our B2B clients. We can now scale tailored learning programs directly from a company's own systems, documents and objectives, grounded in our proven instructional design methodology. And, critically, we measure actual demonstrated proficiency. This is what enterprise buyers need and what sets us apart.

And I'm genuinely excited that our language learning product in both B2B and B2C channels is returning to growth. The new capabilities we have added create a better, more powerful experience for learners that combines language courses and workplace skills content delivered through adaptive AI, expert human coaching and real-world practice. Learners build both the language and the communication skills they need to perform in the moments that matter most. In Q3, our workplace skills content went live for English-speaking premium subscribers and is now expanding to Spanish, French, German and Italian. The goal is a performance platform designed around real-life outcomes, not lesson completions.

The last year has been both complicated and exhilarating -- complicated because AI hit our business hard, and we had to reinvent the company financially, structurally and across product offerings -- and exhilarating because we see all the opportunities ahead of us. We have been operating knowing that our traditional academic services business would wind down over time. And while it did, we would generate significant cash. That continues to play out as we anticipated and that, and that cash has allowed us to pay down our debt and invest in the future of the company.

As I said on the top of the call, we are on our way to being a very different company focused on employability. And as we look ahead, we will be strategic and targeted in how we think about growth across the company with both organic and inorganic opportunities. We are reviewing companies with strong IP and customer bases that could benefit from our new employability platform to help them grow faster at much lower cost. We will be judicious, but the pipeline is real. With a clean balance sheet and a market opportunity that is only getting bigger and the positive signals we are seeing in our most recent product launch on internships.com, we are excited about what's ahead, and I look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter.

And with that, I'll turn it over to David.

David Longo

Thank you, Dan, and good morning. Today, I will review our financial performance for the third quarter of 2026, along with the company's outlook for the fourth quarter. We delivered a strong third quarter, exceeding our expectations while making meaningful progress in reshaping our business and balance sheet, executing on our strategic priorities and delivering free cash flow. Over the past year, we have significantly reduced our cost structure, repaid our remaining convertible debt and established a stronger financial foundation that expands our ability to invest in future growth.

We are now focused on building our employability business, helping learners develop workforce-ready skills while enabling employers to build and maintain a more skilled workforce. We believe this represents an attractive opportunity to create long-term value. As we execute our strategy, we remain focused on identifying additional cost savings, improving operational performance and leveraging AI across the business.

In the quarter, total revenue was $46.5 million, exceeding our expectations. Our legacy homework help business continued to decline as expected, while we focused investment on the areas we believe offer the greatest long-term opportunity. We entered into new skilling distribution partnerships, enhanced our language offering and continued to build our employability platform, which we expect to contribute more meaningfully in 2027.

Turning to expenses, Q3 non-GAAP operating expenses were $31.2 million, down 36% year-over-year. This reduction reflects the impact of our cost management initiatives and the use of AI to streamline operations and improve productivity across the organization. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $5.4 million, representing a margin of 12%. Third quarter CapEx was $1.7 million, down 71% year-over-year.

For the full year 2026, we are targeting a greater than 60% reduction in CapEx. Free cash flow in the quarter was $5.5 million, reflecting our continued focus on cash generation and disciplined financial management.

Looking at the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $43.6 million in cash and investments and fully repaid our remaining convertible debt. Eliminating our debt was a key objective for 2026 and marks an important milestone in strengthening our balance sheet.

Moving to guidance, looking ahead to the fourth quarter, we expect total revenues between $38 million and $40 million, gross margin in the range of 46% to 48% and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $1 million. With our debt eliminated, our capital allocation strategy remains focused on generating free cash flow, maintaining a strong balance sheet and thoughtfully deploying capital to create long-term shareholder value.

In closing, we have made significant progress repositioning Chegg for its next phase. We have strengthened both the business and the balance sheet, creating a more focused, efficient and financially flexible organization as we continue to build our employability platform. We believe we are well positioned to create long-term value through disciplined execution and thoughtful investment in future growth opportunities.

With that, I will turn the call over to the operator for your questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Ryan MacDonald with Needham & Company.

Phần hỏi đáp

Ryan MacDonald

On the balance sheet stability and the progress on the new initiatives. Dan, maybe to start, I'd be curious to see what you're seeing thus far with the employability platform in terms of student engagement as they're coming to the site. Is it simply, sort of, right now, sort of, building that engagement, sort of, through the browsing of the internship opportunities? Or are you starting to see early signs of good attach rates for some of the upselling to the resume, cover letter tailoring or the Chegg Complete offering?

Daniel Rosensweig

Yes. Great question, and thank you for the comment because we're -- this has been a really challenging first year back. And the fact that we eliminated our debt, so we're debt-free, the fact that we have almost $45 million of cash on our balance sheet and the fact that we have the skilling business even before the employability platform that you're talking about that is going to be over $65 million this year -- I think we could acknowledge that the company finally is back in much healthier shape and should be valued at a lot higher than we're seeing today.

But the internship question is sort of fascinating because we asked ourselves the Jeff Bezos question, which is not what's changing, but what isn't going to change. And every student needs an internship and every student needs a job, no matter what school they go to or no matter what classes they take. And I think we were right: the fact that in less than 8 weeks, we had over 100,000 visitors to internships.com alone, and those are all people that were not current Chegg customers.

So, of course, our current Chegg customers also get to access the service as part of Chegg. So we actually have a lot more people using it than that, and that's pretty exciting. And honestly, ahead of what I expected since we only rolled it out at the beginning of September. So the product-market fit is clearly there. On the engagement metrics that you asked about, obviously, the first thing is, can they find us? So traffic has gone from, like, tenfold in terms of the number of people coming per day from when we launched it.

So clearly, people are finding us organically. We have started a very limited paid marketing campaign, and that's working. So once they find us, the goal is to get them to upload a resume. The percentage of people that come in and upload the resume is actually pretty high. And once they upload the resume, we're able to start to do the things that AI is able to do for them and the data that we have in the history of them is able to do for them.

So we're actually seeing significant growth week-over-week as we go into probably what will be the internship season. So the engagement is high in terms of resume uploads, searches, letters that we're writing, applications for jobs, all of which we automatically do for the students. So I would say right now, we have real optimism around it. And it's all small numbers, obviously, because we're just getting started, but each day, each week is a record over the previous week. And that's really all we can ask for at this time.

Ryan MacDonald

Makes sense. And then on the pilot programs you signed up with College of Charleston, Salem, Radford, I guess what are sort of some of the goals? Or what are these universities sort of looking to see during the pilot period that -- what are they judging sort of Chegg on from a success perspective when they're thinking about the pilot programs they're going through?

Daniel Rosensweig

Yes, that's a great question because, as you know, historically, Chegg has not been able to work with colleges and universities. So we're ecstatic that we've got this many to sign up already, really just as a pilot program, and there's a lot more that are reaching out to us now because if you understand the economics of colleges, at the end of the day, enrollment is dependent now really on whether or not people think they're going to be able to get a job when they go to that college. And so the career services office is becoming really a hub of why parents or students agree to go to school.

So the goal of the pilot program is we do 2 things. The first thing is we've set up a set of data, which colleges historically have not had, which we're able to track and go back over the last 5 years, every student that's gone to that school, which companies they work for, what jobs they have, where they had internships, what they get paid, job descriptions, skills necessary so the colleges can actually track the success of their students. They always reached out to students or alumni to be able to get money. But now they really are tracking their employment so that they can say to a student at their school, if you take this major in this class from this individual, these are the kinds of companies that are likely going to recruit you for an internship or for a job, and these are the skills that you need.

They've never had access to the information. So the first thing is we set up college pages for all of the colleges. We're also going to do the same thing for employers on the other side so they can see which students from which schools are actively interested in working at their companies.

The second thing, then, is a certain number of students will be given access to our platform at no charge for several months so that we can actually track what the students do, and we can work with the career services centers. So we're actually willing to install people in the career services centers to help these students not only use the product, but really improve their ability to understand what it is that they need to do to get a job and internship.

So what the colleges are expecting is us to be able to give them data that they've never had before to help their students understand which jobs and internships are likely possible for them. And the second thing is they want to use our app as a way to help those students actually get the job. So when we started to talk to universities, we were concerned that over the historical situation as it related to Chegg, we've come up against none of it.

Ryan MacDonald

Got it. Makes sense. Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe on the -- sorry, go ahead.

Daniel Rosensweig

Go ahead.

Ryan MacDonald

On the skilling business, you mentioned you're above $65 million in skilling revs this year. You've now got 11 distribution partners that have signed up since the start of the year. I guess -- I think we talked last quarter a bit about that maybe some of the ramping on some of those distribution partnerships was a little bit slower than what you're initially expecting. It sounds like, obviously, it's a little bit of a tougher environment on the B2B side out there just broadly in L&D. But I guess, how are those new distribution partners ramping relative to your expectations? And what sort of -- how is that informing your view on sort of the potential growth of that skilling business?

Daniel Rosensweig

Yes. Great question. And so to your great point, at the beginning of the year, we had one partner in skilling. And that partner has been flat to down, unfortunately, based on their business. So our growth comes from adding new partners. And we were able to renegotiate a contract that would allow us to sign new partners. When it came back, we expected to have 4. We're now up to 11. And so now what we're learning is the length of time once you sign it to the actual rollout. Almost every rollout, regardless of when we signed the contract, really didn't roll out till the beginning of the fourth quarter or the very end of the third quarter.

So we're learning those ramps now. But we have excellent partners like Coursera, which are starting to show progress -- and so I think my expectation is by our next earnings call, we'll be able to understand which of these partnerships, what their value will be over a period of time. But they are starting to ramp, and that's been really positive. It's just -- as you point out, it takes time because you have to pick the right set of skills, you have to get into the distribution networks, you have to be rolled out by the partner, then the companies need to put you inside the catalog of choices for their employees. And those were things we just needed to learn along the way, but the fact that we have 11 versus 4 is a really good sign for us and the fact that they're beginning to yield shows that these are going to be good partners for us. But it's just too early to give you a solid number.

Ryan MacDonald

Makes sense. Okay. And then maybe just last one for David. Obviously, clean balance sheet now, have some cash, no debt. Can you just, kind of, walk us through, sort of, prioritization in terms of capital allocation strategy moving forward and whether or not you can, sort of, achieve, sort of, your strategic goals organically or if you start to look at small tuck-ins from an M&A perspective to, sort of, enhance what you're doing?

David Longo

Yes. Thanks, Ryan. All of the above, really. And what we set out to do at the beginning of the year was make sure that the debt was paid off. We achieved that at the beginning of September, which was a large milestone for us and then continue to prioritize cash flow, cash generation. And every quarter this year, we've had free cash flow, including in the beginning half of the year when we were paying down some of the restructuring events that we've had.

So now that, that the debt is paid off, we -- as we mentioned in the call, we are looking at ways to continue to grow organically, inorganically. If we find the right opportunities to tuck in that can be accretive to our P&L, we'll take a look at all of those, but they've got to make sense strategically for what we're trying to do, but always focused on cash flow, cash generation.

Daniel Rosensweig

So just one other point to add to that is there are a lot of assets that are good assets that have been underfunded or abandoned by their VC investors that we've been meeting and talking with over the course of the last year in anticipation of growing both organically and inorganically. And so I don't think there's going to be a shortage of opportunities. But to David's point, we're going to be very judicious. We're in no rush to take an asset that doesn't fit our goals. And our goals are both inorganic growth and organic growth and increased profitability with each transaction.

And one of the great things about the employability platform that we mentioned is our ability to take other companies and grow them faster at much lower cost because we've done the work that they haven't done yet. And so we'll be able to hang those companies on top of our platform, and that gives us a lot more opportunities. So we will be patient, but there will be opportunities, and we're pretty excited about...

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Dan for closing comments.

Daniel Rosensweig

So thanks for those of you who have listened to the call. It's been a really interesting year. Obviously, AI affected our business first, and we're using AI to reinvent the business going forward. So we're trying to go from a headwind to a tailwind. We stabilized the business. We've substantially improved the balance sheet. We have no debt. We have about $45 million in cash. We'll have produced cash every quarter this year, too, something the company hasn't done in a long time. And we've got a skilling business alone that is over $65 million of revenue expected this year. So we think that we are now in a position for people to take a look at us and understand that the value that we can create over the next few years could be pretty substantial. The team is excited, and we're excited. And I just want to thank everybody for joining the call. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you.