Cuộc họp công bố kết quả kinh doanh Quý 1 năm tài chính 2027 của MindWalk (HYFT): Doanh thu tăng 21%, đàm phán với ReefIQ tiến triển
MindWalk công bố doanh thu quý 1 năm tài chính 2027 tăng 21% so với cùng kỳ, đạt 3,8 triệu C$. Lợi nhuận gộp đạt 2,2 triệu C$ với biên lợi nhuận gộp mở rộng lên 59%. Lỗ thuần từ hoạt động kinh doanh liên tục mở rộng lên 6,1 triệu C$ do chi phí gia tăng phục vụ thương mại hóa. Công ty đang đàm phán triển khai nền tảng ReefIQ cấp doanh nghiệp với nhiều hãng dược lớn và đã ký cam kết hạn mức tín dụng quay vòng 30 triệu US$. Khoảng 80% phễu thương mại áp dụng cấu trúc hợp tác nền tảng chia sẻ hiệu quả kinh tế.
Nội dung chính
- Doanh thu quý 1 năm tài chính 2027 tăng 21% so với cùng kỳ năm trước lên 3,8 triệu C$, đánh dấu 5 quý liên tiếp doanh thu tăng trưởng so với cùng kỳ.
- Lợi nhuận gộp tăng lên 2,2 triệu C$, trong khi biên lợi nhuận gộp mở rộng lên 59% từ mức 48% của một năm trước đó.
- Lỗ thuần từ các hoạt động kinh doanh liên tục mở rộng lên 6,1 triệu C$ từ mức 4,1 triệu C$, phản ánh chi phí bán hàng, tiếp thị, R&D và chi phí thù lao bằng cổ phiếu cao hơn.
- MindWalk đang đàm phán về việc triển khai ReefIQ cấp doanh nghiệp tiềm năng với nhiều công ty dược phẩm lớn. Ban lãnh đạo không cung cấp ngày ký kết dự kiến hoặc giá trị hợp đồng.
- Khoảng 80% phễu thương mại hiện tại tính theo giá trị được cấu trúc dưới dạng hợp tác nền tảng liên quan đến quản lý dữ liệu, ReefIQ và phát hiện đa mục tiêu, trong đó MindWalk tham gia vào hiệu quả kinh tế của tài sản.
- Công ty đã công bố cam kết ràng buộc về hạn mức tín dụng quay vòng không bảo đảm ưu tiên trị giá 30 triệu US$ với lãi suất cố định 7%, cung cấp vốn mà không cần phát hành cổ phần.
Kết quả tài chính cốt lõi
| Chỉ số | Quý 1 năm tài chính 2027 | Quý 1 năm tài chính 2026 | Thay đổi / Nhận xét |
|---|---|---|---|
| Doanh thu | 3,8 triệu C$ | 3,2 triệu C$ | Tăng khoảng 673.000 C$, tương đương 21% |
| Lợi nhuận gộp | 2,2 triệu C$ | 1,5 triệu C$ | Doanh thu cao hơn và biên lợi nhuận được cải thiện |
| Biên lợi nhuận gộp | 59% | 48% | Mở rộng 11 điểm phần trăm |
| Chi phí R&D | 1,3 triệu C$ | 1,0 triệu C$ | Chi phí lương tăng nhằm hỗ trợ thương mại hóa nền tảng |
| Chi phí bán hàng và tiếp thị | 3,2 triệu C$ | 1,3 triệu C$ | Chi tiêu cho nhân sự, quảng cáo và xúc tiến bán hàng cao hơn; bao gồm các chi phí không thường xuyên |
| Chi phí G&A | 3,9 triệu C$ | 3,3 triệu C$ | Mức tăng chủ yếu gắn liền với chi phí thù lao bằng cổ phiếu không bằng tiền mặt |
| Lỗ thuần từ các hoạt động kinh doanh liên tục | 6,1 triệu C$ | 4,1 triệu C$ | Khoản lỗ mở rộng do công ty đầu tư vào thương mại hóa |
| Tổng lỗ thuần | 6,1 triệu C$ | 3,0 triệu C$ | Kết quả năm trước bao gồm 1,1 triệu C$ thu nhập từ các hoạt động kinh doanh đã chấm dứt |
| Số dư tiền mặt | 7,6 triệu C$ | — | Tính đến ngày 31 tháng 7 năm 2026; giảm từ mức 11,3 triệu C$ vào ngày 30 tháng 4 |
| Dòng tiền thuần sử dụng cho hoạt động vận hành | 4,0 triệu C$ | 4,2 triệu C$ | So sánh với cùng kỳ năm trước bị ảnh hưởng một phần bởi các khoản thanh toán bằng cổ phiếu không bằng tiền mặt |
Kết quả hoạt động kinh doanh và vận hành
MindWalk đã ra mắt ReefIQ vào tháng 6 và hiện đang tập trung vào việc triển khai ở cấp độ doanh nghiệp. Nền tảng này cấu trúc dữ liệu sinh học phức tạp để sử dụng cho các mô hình AI và nhằm hỗ trợ các mối quan hệ doanh thu định kỳ nhiều năm vốn sẽ mở rộng theo mức độ sử dụng của khách hàng.
Ban lãnh đạo cho biết các cuộc thảo luận đang được tiến hành với nhiều công ty dược phẩm lớn, nhưng các thỏa thuận doanh nghiệp cho ReefIQ vẫn chưa được công bố. Doanh thu đăng ký SaaS hiện tại không được định lượng riêng. Công ty nhấn mạnh rằng các thỏa thuận ReefIQ tiềm năng dự kiến sẽ lớn hơn và rộng hơn so với các hợp đồng doanh thu định kỳ LensAI trước đây.
MindWalk cho biết các khách hàng của họ bao gồm 19 trong số 20 công ty dược phẩm hàng đầu thế giới. Công tác nghiên cứu phát hiện của công ty đã đóng góp vào việc đưa vài chục phân tử tiến vào giai đoạn phát triển lâm sàng, bao gồm 10 phân tử hiện đang trong các thử nghiệm từ Giai đoạn 1 đến Giai đoạn 3 và 4 phân tử được mô tả là tiên phong trong phân lớp.
Công ty đang dịch chuyển từ các dự án thu phí dịch vụ riêng lẻ sang các mối quan hệ hợp tác nền tảng rộng hơn với các khoản thanh toán trả trước, các cột mốc phát triển và tiền bản quyền. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết khoảng 80% phễu dự án hiện tại tính theo giá trị hiện đang áp dụng cấu trúc này.
MindWalk cũng đã xác thực việc triển khai sản xuất OpenFold 3 trên các GPU AMD Instinct MI325X cùng với AMD và Vultr. Đường ống phát triển nội bộ của công ty vẫn ở giai đoạn tiền lâm sàng, với nhiều chương trình đang được đẩy mạnh song song và tài nguyên được phân bổ dựa trên sức mạnh của dữ liệu.
Triển vọng từ Ban lãnh đạo
Ban lãnh đạo kỳ vọng doanh thu ReefIQ giai đoạn đầu sẽ không đồng đều vì các thỏa thuận ban đầu có thể bao gồm công việc kỹ thuật dựa trên cột mốc trước khi chuyển sang doanh thu định kỳ hàng năm.
Thời điểm và quy mô tăng trưởng doanh thu sẽ phụ thuộc vào mức độ nhanh chóng mà ReefIQ được áp dụng ở cấp độ doanh nghiệp. Ban lãnh đạo từ chối đưa ra thời điểm cụ thể cho thỏa thuận đầu tiên, viện dẫn các yếu tố nằm ngoài tầm kiểm soát của công ty, nhưng cho biết các cuộc đàm phán đang ở các giai đoạn khác nhau và bao gồm cả các khách hàng lâu năm.
Thỏa thuận hạn mức tín dụng quay vòng dự kiến sẽ mất tối đa 60 ngày để hoàn tất. Công ty có kế hoạch chỉ rút vốn khi có nhu cầu thanh khoản. Ban lãnh đạo cho biết khoản tín dụng này không thay thế các kế hoạch tài trợ cấp chương trình, biệt lập riêng theo cấu trúc Cayman của công ty.
Rủi ro và các điểm cần theo dõi
- Việc triển khai ReefIQ phải vượt qua các quy trình xem xét kiểm tra về an ninh CNTT doanh nghiệp, lưu trữ dữ liệu tại địa phương và quản trị dữ liệu vì nền tảng này tích hợp với dữ liệu sinh học và quy trình phát hiện của khách hàng.
- Các quy trình pháp lý và mua sắm có thể mất nhiều thời gian hơn vì các hợp đồng nền tảng nhiều năm và hiệu quả kinh tế tài sản được đề xuất khác với các hợp đồng dự án trước đây của MindWalk.
- Phạm vi triển khai ban đầu phải được thống nhất trên khắp các chương trình và miền dữ liệu, tạo ra một rào cản tiềm ẩn khác về mặt thời gian.
- Ban lãnh đạo đã xác định lịch sử lỗ thuần của công ty, mức độ chấp nhận của thị trường đối với ReefIQ và LensAI, việc chuyển đổi sự chấp nhận nền tảng thành các hợp đồng định kỳ, rủi ro sở hữu trí tuệ, sự cạnh tranh và các điều kiện thị trường vốn là những yếu tố không chắc chắn then chốt.
- Theo ban lãnh đạo, tiến độ của đường ống phát triển nội bộ vẫn khó dự báo.
Điểm nhấn phiên Hỏi & Đáp với các chuyên gia phân tích
Thời điểm ký hợp đồng ReefIQ: Ban lãnh đạo đã xác định ba yếu tố quyết định chính: an ninh CNTT và quản trị dữ liệu, quy trình xem xét pháp lý và mua sắm, cùng sự thống nhất về phạm vi triển khai ban đầu. Ban lãnh đạo từ chối đưa ra ngày hoàn tất dự kiến cụ thể.
Đặc điểm doanh thu: Các hợp đồng ReefIQ giai đoạn đầu dự kiến sẽ tạo ra doanh thu không đồng đều do các thành phần kỹ thuật trả trước và theo cột mốc. Doanh thu định kỳ hàng năm sẽ nối tiếp dựa trên thời điểm và cấu trúc của từng hợp đồng.
Mức độ tương tác với khách hàng: Ban lãnh đạo cho biết các cuộc thảo luận hợp tác hiện đi kèm với mọi dự án nghiên cứu phát hiện mới. Sự quan tâm đến ReefIQ đạt mức cao nhất ở các công ty dược phẩm lớn hơn đang tìm cách kết nối dữ liệu sinh học bị cô lập tại nhiều khu vực pháp lý.
Phân bổ hạn mức tín dụng: MindWalk có kế hoạch rút vốn từ hạn mức tín dụng khi cần thiết để hỗ trợ thương mại hóa ReefIQ, phát triển đường ống nội bộ và các cơ hội khác. Hạn mức tín dụng này không thay thế nguồn tài trợ dự kiến cho các tài sản biệt lập.
Toàn văn Cuộc họp Báo cáo Kết quả Kinh doanh
Toàn văn cuộc gọi công bố kết quả kinh doanh
Phần trình bày của ban lãnh đạo
Operator
Hello everyone, thank you for joining us and welcome to MindWalk Reports Financial Results and Recent Business Highlights for First Quarter Fiscal Year 2027. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. I will now hand the call over to Dr. Jennifer Bath, President and Chief Executive Officer of MindWalk Holdings Corp. Dr. Bath, please go ahead. Before we begin, I would like to remind listeners that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements. These statements reflect management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in, including the company's history of net losses and the ability to convert platform adoptions into contracted recurring arrangements, market acceptance of ReefIQ and LensAI, intellectual property risks, competition, and capital market conditions. A fuller description of these risks appears in the company's annual report, report on Form 20F, and other filings are available on SEDAR Plus and sec.gov. All financial figures discussed during this call are Canadian dollars. Financial statements and MD&A are available on the company's website at mindwalkai.com, as well as sec.gov and SEDAR Plus. A replay of this call will be available following its conclusion today. I will now turn the call over to Dr. Jennifer Bath, President and Chief Executive Officer of MindWalk Holdings Corp. Please go ahead, Dr. Bath.
Jennifer Bath
Thank you very much. Good afternoon. In this first quarter of fiscal year 2027, MindWalk advanced toward our goal of becoming the leading bio-native AI drug discovery and development company. In June, we launched ReefIQ, our proprietary data platform, and our focus is now on enterprise adoption. For those newer to the MindWalk story, ReefIQ is the substrate layer between complex, unstructured biological data and AI models. It turns that data into structured, biologically meaningful representations, so AI models deliver deeper, more actionable insights for our pharmaceutical partners. ReefIQ's commercial model is built around multi-year recurring revenue relationships that can scale as clients expand their use of the platform.
As ReefIQ is integrated directly into a client's biological data and the discovery workflows, these relationships are designed to deepen over time. As a trusted partner to many of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies, we know how drug discovery works inside these organizations and what they need from a platform like ReefIQ. Those relationships give us a real advantage as we drive adoption. We have made good progress. We are engaged with multiple large pharmaceutical companies around potential enterprise deployments of ReefIQ. These discussions vary in maturity, and we are encouraged by how the platform is resonating with our clients. We are not yet in a position to announce specific partners or discuss contract values, but the level of engagement reinforces our conviction of the commercial opportunity. We look forward to providing additional updates as these discussions progressed.
These opportunities are substantially larger than our historical LensAI recurring revenue agreements. Investors should not use prior LensAI contracts as a benchmark for the size or the scope of ReefIQ enterprise relationships. We have built a leading wet lab discovery franchise. Our clients include 19 of the top 20 global pharmaceutical companies. And every one of those relationships is a potential opening for ReefIQ. Two decades of biologics discovery work for our clients across multiple platforms and capabilities has already contributed to several dozen molecules reaching the clinic. 10 are in active phase 1 through phase 3 trials today, and 4 of those are first-in-class molecules. We are also reshaping how we structure our commercial relationships with our pharmaceutical partners.
Increasingly, new engagements are being structured as broader platform partnerships where MindWalk participates in the economics of the assets we help create, rather than simply being paid for discrete projects. This structure aligns our incentives with our partners, has been well received by our clients, and is contributing to increased activity across our commercial funnel. Today, roughly 80% of our current funnel by value is now structured this way, planning data management, ReefIQ, and multi-target discovery. We also reached a clear infrastructure milestone with our engineering partner, AMD and Vultr. We validated a production deployment of OpenFold 3 on AMD Instinct MI325X GPUs. The first of those results are being published this week. OpenFold 3 is open source and any drug discovery team can use it, which is exactly the point. Models commoditize. The layer they run on compounds.
Every model run on ReefIQ enriches the biological context for every other program. And LensAI, our reasoning layer, is deliberately model neutral. So a client can bring their own model, any open source one, or any third party, and still reason over that same context layer. The compute win simply gives us more room to run discovery and scale ReefIQ. This is a marquee week for that partnership with much more to come. Our internal pipeline continues to advance through preclinical development and we remain excited about the opportunity to drive value in this part of our business. Timelines there are hard to forecast, so we advance multiple programs in parallel and prioritize resources based on the strength of the data.
This quarter, we added experienced leaders to accelerate our IND enabling work and move our best programs toward IND filings and the clinic. We will update the market as they hit scientific, regulatory, and development milestones. Finally, our capital position. This morning we announced a binding commitment for a $30 million in unsecured revolving credit facility at a fixed 7% rate drawn as needed. It gives us financial flexibility without issuing equity, which matters given where our stock trades, set against how AI enabled discovery platforms are valued in public and private markets. We do not believe our market capitalization reflects what we have built or the scale of what we are pursuing. This informs how we think about financing the business and makes this facility particularly attractive to us. This is not a response to a step change in our cash needs. Our model is not capital intensive.
The facility gives us the flexibility to invest behind ReefIQ, advance our internal pipeline, and pursue opportunities as they develop on terms that we believe are very favorable to MindWalk and its shareholders. Our focus is on execution, and we believe sustained delivery will be reflected in the stock over time. Turning to the quarter, revenue grew 21% year over year, and gross margin expanded to 59% from 48%. The larger loss this quarter reflects deliberate investment behind the commercial opportunity we see ahead of us. Sales and marketing expense increased by $1.9 million. We are investing to build a larger and more durable revenue base, not simply support the business we have today. On the bottom line, this quarter is not directly comparable to the same quarter last year, which included income from discontinued operations.
With that, I will turn it over to Scott to take you through the numbers. Thank you, Jennifer, and good afternoon, everyone.
Unknown Speaker
I will take you through our first quarter fiscal year 2027 financial results. As a reminder, all figures are in Canadian dollars. Revenue for the first quarter of fiscal year 2027 was $3.8 million versus $3.2 million in the first quarter of fiscal year 2026. This is an improvement of approximately $673,000 or 21%. That represents 5 quarters of consecutive year-over-year revenue growth. Gross margin was $2.2 million, or 59%, for the first quarter of fiscal year 2027, as compared to $1.5 million, or 48%, for the same quarter last year. Looking at operating expenses. For the quarter ended July 31, 2026, R&D was $1.3 million compared to $1 million in the same period last year.
This increase is due primarily to increased salary costs to support the commercial development of our platform. Sales and marketing expenses were $3.2 million for the first quarter of 2027, as compared to $1.3 million in the first quarter of 2026, which included non-recurring costs incurred in the quarter. As I mentioned in our prior call, these are planned investments in our commercial infrastructure and represent increased headcount to support our commercial initiatives, as well as investments in advertising and promotion. G&A increased to $3.9 million for the quarter ended July 31, 2026, as compared to $3.3 million for the same quarter last year. The increase is due primarily to non-cash stock-based compensation. Net loss and loss from continuing operations was $6.1 million for the first quarter of fiscal year 2027, as compared to net loss from continuing operations of $4.1 million in the first quarter of 2026. Overall net loss in the prior year was $3 million, which included $1.1 million of income from discontinued operations.
Turning to the balance sheet. The company ended the quarter with cash balance of $7.6 million as of July 31, 2026. Net cash used in operating activities was $4 million compared to $4.2 million in the prior year quarter, due in part to non-cash expenses related to share-based payments. Cash was $11.3 million at April 30. I am also pleased with our announcement earlier today of a binding commitment for a $30 million U.S. senior unsecured revolving credit facility. This facility demonstrates confidence in our long-term strategy around our emerging pipeline and anticipated adoption of ReefIQ and provides the capital necessary to execute on that strategy. With that, I will turn the call back to Jennifer. Thank you, Scott.
Jennifer Bath
As we've mentioned this morning, we announced the binding commitment for $30 million of unsecured capital without issuing a single share. And this gives us the runway to execute. The strategy is showing up in the business with revenue of 21% and gross margin at 59%. ReefIQ is a recurring revenue business and it compounds as clients adopt and expand. We are in active negotiations with multiple large pharma companies on ReefIQ enterprise deployments. You will hear from us as those conclude. As mentioned, do not measure them against our historical LensAI agreements.
These are a different scale. On the discovery side, we are moving from discrete projects to platform partnerships where we share in the economics of the assets we help create. Both of these are happening with clients we already have a distribution advantage that no new entrants can buy. On top of that, our internal pipeline adds upside with catalysts ahead. The higher losses quarter is an investment behind a larger opportunity. The market is moving toward exactly what we built and our job now is to lead it. Operator, we are ready for questions.
Operator
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Charles Wallace with H.C. Wainwright.
Unknown Speaker
Could you maybe help us understand what portion of the $3.8 million in the first quarter revenue was contracted reoccurring platform revenue?
Jennifer Bath
I guess, yes, let's start there. Thank you. Scott, if you have those numbers before you, I don't know if we do have those broken out. I can say that if we're if by platform recurring revenue, we're referring to ReefIQ. ReefIQ is not a data management program or platform that is currently in place. These are the ones that we've just discussed negotiating, that is like a whole new level of engagement from clients that you'll definitely hear about as we proceed through that. And this was the platform that we just released in June, quite recently. Now, if it's recurring revenue or annual recurring revenue off of the SaaS model subscriptions, we do have that. We have announced that historically. I'm not sure that we have that broken out since we don't break these out by cost centers, but I can have Scott confirm.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, so I guess for my next question. So for the active negotiations that you mentioned with the multiple large pharma partners for the ReefIQ, which, you know, as you mentioned, just launched in June, what are the current gating factors in these negotiations? And when do you expect to see these convert in fiscal year 2027? Yes.
Jennifer Bath
Fair question. So the gating factors between each group actually differ significantly. In terms of, sorry, we're getting a lot of feedback on our side. In terms of negotiations with clients on our side for gating factors, what we are seeking are primarily people who are already engaged with MindWalk, are running different programs already with MindWalk and primarily starting off with people who are also engaged through the SaaS model subscription. We do look at, uh, for large pharmaceutical companies, when they're moving, you know, into a vendor bringing a vendor into their core infrastructure. None of them are really about whether or not the platform works. They kind of fall in 3 buckets for us. The first big one is really about IT security and data governance review, which is something you've probably heard us talk a lot about over the last 6 months. ReefIQ is different in the sense that it sits inside of a client's biological data and its discovery workflows. And so it goes through the same enterprise security, data residency, and governance processes as really any system of record.
The second one is legal and procurement. And, you know, these are multi-year platform relationships. So instead of like project statements of works that we've done historically with our large pharmaceutical client, and then also when we're sharing in the economics of different assets during COVID, development and partnership relationships. So the contract itself is a very new shape. It's very different than the historical contracts we've had. And so it's different for their procurement terms as well. And then I would say, Charles, probably the third component of that is the scoping and just agreeing which programs and which data domains that the first deployment are going to cover, so that it lands cleanly and then it's expanding from there. And so I would say those are kind of the 3 core areas as companies are by and large taking a relatively new and fairly big step in bringing us fully into the data landscape of what exists throughout their company, oftentimes in a multinational setting. As far as when we plan to, um, this is close our first agreement or when we plan to see these start closing. I'm going to leave that question alone for now. I don't want to, I don't want to create that specific of an expectation. But what I am comfortable saying at this point on the call is that we have these negotiations occurring at various different stages, and, um, that includes groups that have worked with us for many years. Um, that also includes 1 group that's been with us as many years and also has a SaaS model subscription and has been in negotiations, in this particular component across multinational jurisdictions for their company for quite some time. So we have a very good line of sight on where and how this is going and when we anticipate it closing. But of course, not everything's under our control. So I'll hold off on giving an exact more specific timeline.
Unknown Speaker
No, yeah, that's very helpful. And then maybe 1 final question, maybe on the $30 million revolving credit facility. So when do you expect the initial draw from this facility and kind of over what timeframe and how will it be allocated between the ReefIQ commercial rollout and the biological programs? Biological programs. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
So we have 60 days to get the credit agreement drawn up. So we won't be able to do anything until the credit agreement is completed. As far as the investments, you know, we'll draw capital as we needed and as we need liquidity, but, you know, we still have cash runway in our bank account as well.
Unknown Speaker
Great. And maybe 1 final follow up to that question. Does this credit facility replace kind of the ring-fenced program level financing structure that you have in the Cayman asset in a style of financing? That does not. Sure, we hear you.
Jennifer Bath
Exactly. It absolutely does not replace that. So we still have interested parties and investing in ring-fenced assets within the Cayman structure and are probably 90, 95% of the way in in terms of completing the legal and the tax planning efforts that go around the estate setting up those structures.
Unknown Speaker
Thank you.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Dania Ben-Hale with Jones. Please go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
How should investors think about their revenue growth over the next 12 months and next 2?
Unknown Speaker
Yes, I mean, these initial ReefIQ agreements are probably going to be relatively lumpy. It's just the nature of the structure. They're they're going to be milestone based, there's their engineering efforts at the at the outset, and then they become annual recurring revenue. So I do think revenue is going to be a little lumpy. It's hard to forecast. It really just depends on how quickly we get adoption of ReefIQ.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, and so we expect it to be around these numbers during the next few quarters until things settle down and you get more information. subscriptions and annually and things like that.
Unknown Speaker
Yes, I think once we're in a position to announce an agreement, I think we'll take a deeper dive into what the revenue model looks like and what we expect recurring revenue to occur based on the timing of the contract.
Unknown Speaker
Yes, okay, thank you. And just another question about the discussions with the pharmaceutical and biotech companies. What are they focused on? Are they getting more engaged with ReefIQ? Is it more the subscriptions right now for um the [indiscernible?] Yes, what parts of it are there?
Jennifer Bath
Yes, that's actually a great question, Dania. No, I really appreciate that. So 1 of the things we've talked about in the past is, you know, we definitely went about this from a different direction from others. You will see that there are companies that have a technology and some discovery capabilities that prepared those offerings for others as a partnership model. Um, and, you know, really a little bit more on the premise of it's extremely low risk, so we'll backload it, but without really having the proof point or the evidence to support the quality of the work. And, um, that low risk was given in exchange for not having not having that type of a relationship with those clients. We've really done the exact opposite. We've spent the last 5 years demonstrating our ability to send really good molecules to the clinic that are quite successful in the clinic, and then also demonstrated our ability to do that with an understanding of the function of a molecule and its mechanism of action, providing a greater probability of success in later stages of a clinic.
And that's been a really different approach that we've made. So as we enter into these conversations, you know, we've mentioned before, we're working with hundreds of different clients in building these therapeutic drugs. And 1 of the biggest changes we've had in the last 2 quarters is that every 1 of those programs coming in is an integrated lab in the loop with our in silico work intertwined very directly with our wet lab work, providing clients with data sooner, larger amounts of data for more data driven decision making. But there's 2 components of that that really tie in, actually technically 3, Dania, that I think specifically address your question. 1 of them is that all of that data is turned back within LensAI. Clients are directly exposed to the SaaS model subscription. They have the opportunity to use base layer applications within our LensAI. And that has brought more clients to the table with those inquiries around SaaS model subscriptions.
So it expands their ability to work with the data within the platform in which it's being received. The conversations around the partnerships, which are back-loaded but always include some sort of upfront payment, the structure of those being ones that are milestone and royalty based, that is now a conversation happening with every single client. So that fee for service option that we have provided in the past where we use that opportunity to build a relationship with these clients to be 1 of their preferred vendors, which is no easy task, and to demonstrate the competencies that we have, I would say superiority that we have in our AI and wet lab drug discovery is what we're building on in those discussions. So every single 1 of those discussions is now a partnership discussion. There's no longer the opportunity to just walk in the door and put down money for fee for service. So it is a longer negotiation period for us. So even given the fact that we're still up in revenue with these double digits over last year where we were up significantly in revenue as well, while backloading approximately 80% of the discussions now in the pipeline as partnership discussions. To us is bringing us additional confidence.
These clients are not walking away from that discussion. They're not, you know. They're not turning away from it because we've become the trusted provider that we've shown we can execute. And so that's enabled this discussion with going back to your question. Actually, every single 1 of our And then the third component of that is ReefIQ. And I would say the majority of the earlier adoption interest and communications we're having from that is from the larger pharmaceutical companies, which I guess makes sense. These are companies that are oftentimes juggling multiple jurisdictions, a lot more siloed And are also oftentimes being asked from the top down to find a solution to help their data make sense and to connect their data. We're really seeing it across the board in all 3 areas.
I would say the majority of those conversations, if we had to pick the 1 that was leading the way, would be partnership discussions, because again, that's not an option. Have that discussion with us any longer. And then the second most would be ReefIQ, where people are looking for an advantage to find meaning in their data, an advantage to get away from hallucination and make their AI models better than their competition. And we're able to bring that to the table with something we've been building for 20 years and something that no one else has was able to offer.
Operator
Thank you. There are no further questions at this time, and this will conclude today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
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