Conferencia de resultados del 3T de 2026 de Orion S.A. (OEC): $46M de flujo de caja libre, eleva las previsiones de EBITDA

Aspectos clave

• Orion S.A. (NYSE: OEC) generó 67 millones de dólares de EBITDA ajustado en el 3T de 2026, un 16% más interanual, lo que incluye aproximadamente 17 millones de dólares de beneficio neto derivados del efecto temporal de los derechos de emisión anuales de la UE.
• El flujo de caja libre alcanzó los 46 millones de dólares, respaldado por iniciativas de capital circulante y un menor gasto de capital secuencial. El apalancamiento neto se redujo a 4,1x desde 4,4x en el trimestre anterior.
• El EBITDA ajustado en lo que va de año se situó en 171 millones de dólares. La dirección elevó el punto medio de su previsión de EBITDA ajustado para todo el año y acotó el rango hacia el extremo superior de sus perspectivas anteriores.
• El EBITDA ajustado de Specialty aumentó un 18% interanual hasta los 25 millones de dólares, mientras que el EBITDA ajustado de Rubber creció un 15% hasta los 41 millones de dólares. Los volúmenes disminuyeron en ambos segmentos ante la cautela de los clientes y la reducción de inventarios.
• Se reiteraron las previsiones de flujo de caja libre para todo el año y el objetivo de gasto de capital para 2026 se mantiene en 90 millones de dólares, una reducción de 70 millones de dólares respecto a 2025.
• La dirección espera un mayor EBITDA ajustado y un flujo de caja libre positivo en 2027, respaldados por el aprovisionamiento de materias primas, la eficiencia productiva, la fiabilidad de las plantas, las mejoras en el mix de productos y las medidas de capital circulante.

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Evolución operativa y del negocio

Specialty

El EBITDA ajustado de Specialty aumentó a 25 millones de dólares, impulsado principalmente por un mix de productos más favorable, incluidos grados premium destinados a los mercados de recubrimientos y cables, así como por los efectos de la repercusión de los costes de las materias primas.

La demanda se debilitó de forma secuencial y el volumen cayó un 8% interanual. Orion señaló que los mercados occidentales se ralentizaron con mayor claridad en los polímeros y los canales de distribución. La dirección atribuyó la presión a la reducción de inventarios, ya que los clientes buscaron disminuir sus existencias de alto coste ante la volatilidad de los precios de las materias primas derivadas del petróleo.

El EBITDA ajustado de Specialty en lo que va de año alcanzó casi 92 millones de dólares, un aumento de aproximadamente 25 millones de dólares, o un 37%, respecto al año anterior. Un mix favorable y el traslado de costes de las materias primas fueron los principales catalizadores.

Rubber

El EBITDA ajustado de Rubber aumentó a 41 millones de dólares. El efecto temporal de los derechos de emisión de la UE y la repercusión de costes de las materias primas compensaron con creces los menores precios de los contratos anuales y un mix regional desfavorable.

El volumen cayó un 4% interanual. La demanda ligeramente más fuerte en EMEA se vio superada por las caídas en América y APAC. La dirección señaló que la demanda de neumáticos de reposición en EMEA se mantuvo resiliente, mientras que las tasas de producción de neumáticos en Norteamérica aún no se habían recuperado.

Orion también registró una demanda continuada en el mercado spot, especialmente en Norteamérica. La dirección vinculó gran parte de esa actividad a las paradas no programadas de otros proveedores.

Flujo de caja y balance

La generación de caja sigue siendo la máxima prioridad financiera de Orion, con el flujo de caja libre destinado a la reducción de deuda. Las mejoras en el capital circulante incluyeron el reajuste de los plazos de pago y el mantenimiento de niveles más bajos de inventario.

Tras el cierre del trimestre, Orion liquidó swaps favorables de divisas y de tipos de interés vinculados a sus préstamos a plazo europeos, monetizando 27 millones de dólares incorporados en dichos instrumentos.

Previsiones de la dirección

La dirección elevó el punto medio de su previsión de EBITDA ajustado para todo el año 2026 y acotó el rango hacia el extremo superior de sus perspectivas anteriores. El rango revisado específico no se detalló durante la conferencia de resultados.

Se mantuvieron las previsiones de flujo de caja libre para todo el año. La dirección afirmó que habría elevado el límite inferior de ese rango de no haber sido por las condiciones del precio del petróleo.

La compañía sigue esperando 90 millones de dólares en gastos de capital en 2026. Las inversiones se priorizarán cada vez más hacia la fiabilidad de los activos que más aportan a Orion.

La dirección prevé resultados más débiles en el 4T en ambos segmentos debido a una marcada estacionalidad, a la reducción de inventarios por parte de los clientes y a las paradas programadas de mantenimiento. Se espera que aproximadamente el 75% del impacto de las paradas afecte a Specialty y el 25% a Rubber. Rubber también afrontará un impacto adverso de aproximadamente 10 millones de dólares en los precios de los contratos anuales, en línea con los trimestres anteriores.

Aunque no se han fijado previsiones formales para 2027, la dirección espera un mayor EBITDA ajustado y un flujo de caja libre positivo el próximo año. Entre los factores previstos destacan el ahorro en aprovisionamientos, la homologación de materias primas alternativas, la eficiencia productiva, una mayor fiabilidad, la mejora del mix de productos y nuevos avances en el capital circulante.

Riesgos y aspectos a vigilar

• Efecto temporal de los derechos de emisión de la UE: El EBITDA ajustado del 3T incluyó un beneficio temporal de aproximadamente 17 millones de dólares que no afecta al flujo de caja libre.
• Reducción de inventarios: Los clientes mantienen existencias bajas y horizontes de previsión cortos debido a la volatilidad de los precios de las materias primas derivadas del petróleo.
• Estacionalidad y mantenimiento en el 4T: Se prevé que una actividad de paradas de mantenimiento superior a lo habitual afecte a ambos segmentos, especialmente a Specialty.
• Precios de los contratos: Los menores precios de los contratos anuales de Rubber siguen siendo un lastre en la comparativa interanual.
• Demanda regional: La producción de neumáticos en Norteamérica aún no se ha recuperado a pesar de la disminución en las importaciones de neumáticos.
• Volatilidad del precio del petróleo: La dirección señaló que la volatilidad puede retrasar las compras de los clientes, aunque unos precios más bajos del crudo podrían beneficiar en última instancia a los consumidores.

Puntos destacados de la sesión de preguntas y respuestas

La dirección indicó que la debilidad del 4T responde principalmente a la cautela de los clientes, la reducción de inventarios y las paradas de mantenimiento previstas, más que a un nuevo problema de márgenes en Specialty. Los clientes han facilitado horizontes de previsión a corto plazo y siguen mostrándose prudentes con sus niveles de existencias al encarar el cierre del ejercicio.

En cuanto a la reducción de existencias, Orion vislumbra oportunidades adicionales para reducir los inventarios de seguridad en Europa. No obstante, la dirección se muestra más cautelosa en América debido a una demanda más sólida en el mercado spot.

Aproximadamente el 50% de las ventas de Rubber de Orion destinadas a la industria del neumático están contratadas. La dirección afirmó que está negociando lo que considera precios justos para 2027 y que podría reservar parte del volumen para el mercado spot si las expectativas de los contratos siguen estando demasiado alejadas.

La dirección observó una marcada disminución de las importaciones de neumáticos tras la adopción de medidas comerciales, pero señaló que esto todavía no se ha traducido en una mayor producción de neumáticos. Espera que el impacto sea más visible en 2027, una vez que la actual reducción de inventarios siga su curso.

Bajo un equilibrio más normalizado entre producción e importaciones en América, la dirección estimó que el EBITDA ajustado de todos los segmentos podría aumentar en aproximadamente entre 50 y 100 millones de dólares con el tiempo.

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Comentarios de la dirección

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Orion S.A. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Chris Kapsch, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, Chris. You may begin

Christopher Kapsch

Thank you, Dylan. Good morning, everyone. This is Chris Kapsch, VP of Investor Relations at Orion, and welcome to our Third Quarter 2026 Earning Conference discussion. With me in this call are Corning Painter, Orion's Chief Executive Officer; and Jon Puckett, our Chief Financial Officer. We issued our third quarter results yesterday after the markets closed, and we have posted a slide presentation to the Investor Relations section of our website.

We will be referencing this deck during the call. Before we begin, we are once again obligated to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and our actual results may differ from those described during the call. In addition, all forward-looking statements are made as of today, November 5, 2026.

Orion is not obligated to update any forward-looking statements based on new circumstances or revised expectations. Any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the tables attached to our press release and/or the quarterly earnings deck. Any non-GAAP financial measures presented in these materials should not be considered as alternatives to financial measures required by GAAP. With that, I'll turn the call over to Corning.

Corning Painter

Good morning, and thank you all for joining us. Cutting right to the chase, on Slide 3 of the deck, we delivered [Technical Difficulty] adjusted EBITDA, and we generated $46 million of free cash flow in the third quarter. Upfront, we're flagging a benefit in Q3 results associated with timing of our European emission allowances, which were only finalized and issued during Q3 as we indicated would be the case earlier this year. The delay in recognizing these credits resulted from the EU having missed their own statutory deadline to agree on new industry benchmarks. These are now established and set for the next 5 years.

Because allowance credits are issued on an annual basis, their recognition in Q3 results have an outsized benefit this quarter. It's cleaner to look at our year-to-date adjusted EBITDA of $171 million, which largely balances out Q3 with the absence of these belated credits earlier in the year. The net of all of this has always been in our full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance. Importantly, all of this [Technical Difficulty] free cash flow, which was excellent in the quarter, an accomplishment considering the elevated oil prices. At quarter's end, our net leverage was 4.1x, down 30 basis points from last quarter.

Reflecting our performance to date, we are increasing the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance range. We're also reaffirming our full year free cash flow guidance, implying positive free cash flow against what we will represent -- what we believe will represent trough earnings in spite of the recent oil price volatility. Looking forward, and though too early to establish formal 2027 guidance, we do expect to deliver higher adjusted EBITDA next year as well as positive free cash flow.

We confidently make this statement based on numerous actions we are taking to improve results highlighted on Slide 4 of the deck. We view today's uncertain backdrop as creating opportunity for companies that are nimble, and we are leveraging our agility to do just that for Orion.

First on this list is safety. We have a deep safety culture at Orion. Through October, we are on track for another year of industry-leading safety performance, including no lost [Technical Difficulty] proud of the Orion organization for their vigilance on this core principle. We're also advancing on quality. [Technical Difficulty] International Automotive Task Force certification at our conductive facility in Europe. IATF certification is the gold standard for automotive in verifying quality management systems.

In our case, this recognition has also been a catalyst to optimize the customer mix served out of this facility as wire and cable and battery customers are essentially competing for product allocation. More broadly, we have executed on a variety of actions that are improving our regional competitiveness. A procurement initiative focused on feedstocks is a prime example.

The tumultuous backdrop with oil price volatility has created many cross currents and relative disparities across a variety of feedstock categories and supply chains. At Orion, we are turning this dynamic into opportunity. We have a sharp regional focus on sourcing, including the qualification of alternative feedstocks, which is yielding not just procurement savings, but yield improvements and net productivity as well.

These efforts are a growing contributor to our P&L, especially in this time of global supply chain disruption, and we expect to build on this in 2027. Within operations, we know we have significant margin expansion potential. And our manufacturing excellence program continues to expand. We are replicating early successes at select plants to other manufacturing sites globally and anticipate broader efficiency gains to contribute to our profit recovery story.

And as mentioned last quarter, improving our overall plant reliability is an enabler for the ongoing structural improvements in our working capital. With these improvements, we still expect positive free cash flow this year in spite of significantly higher oil prices from a year ago. We continue to identify fresh opportunities to improve overall free cash flow, which will be directed towards debt reduction.

One lever to improve free cash flow conversion, of course, is capital expenditures, and you should expect further prioritization of our CapEx spending on reliability at our highest contributing assets. Another lever is working capital. Here, a recalibration of both our payment terms and sustained lower inventory levels have been important factors in driving improvement. We're also taking a fresh look at cash tax optimization. Collectively, all of these efforts are gaining traction, and we expect further impact in 2027.

Finally, we continue to evaluate our production network for additional opportunities. Looking at the industry backdrop, tire imports to the U.S. and Europe are down. Today's duties are having an impact and potentially more are coming. For instance, the EU announced incremental duties related to the anti-subsidization investigation of Chinese tires will go into effect next month. In the U.S., the United Steelworkers Union has petitioned for additional relief from tire imports under Section 201. And even the recent surge in Chinese feedstock and carbon black costs could help these dynamics. [Technical Difficulty] trends in the appendix. But to be clear, we are focused on our self-help measures that we control. With that high-level overview, let me turn the call over to Jon to discuss Q3 results in more detail.

Jonathan Puckett

Thanks, Corning. On Slide 5, let me call your attention to the takeaway at the bottom of this page. As we've reiterated, and let me be clear here, our entire organization is focused on improving cash flow. And our #1 financial priority right now is generating cash for the purpose of debt reduction and deleveraging. So we are extremely pleased with our $46 million of free cash flow generation in the quarter, especially considering oil price volatility.

Clearly, our working capital improvement initiatives are making a difference and moving the needle, and that is evident in the [Technical Difficulty] ratio, which also improved to 4.1x from 4.4x last quarter. Back to the top of the slide. Adjusted EBITDA was $67 million during Q3, up 16% year-over-year. As Corning mentioned, our adjusted EBITDA includes the annual EU emission allowances that we received in the third quarter.

The nature of the EU emission allowances requires that we recognize the allowances upon receiving them from the EU rather than accruing for them throughout the year. As this annual allowance is tied directly to our European plant production levels, which is essentially run 24/7 and for which [Technical Difficulty] there is an inherent timing mismatch between [Technical Difficulty] This timing mismatch resulted in approximately $17 million of net benefit to our adjusted EBITDA in Q3.

To put the quarterly timing impact in perspective, if the benefit of the annual EU emissions allowances were recognized more evenly throughout the year, our third quarter adjusted EBITDA would have been closer to $50 million, while our first half adjusted EBITDA would have been about $10 million higher. Importantly, our year-to-date adjusted EBITDA of $171 million is not materially affected by this timing difference.

Similarly, our implied fourth quarter guidance would be about $5 million higher absent the timing impact associated with the recognition of these allowances. This is purely a P&L timing issue and has no impact on our free cash flow metrics. On Slide 6, our Specialty segment adjusted EBITDA of $25 million increased 18% year-over-year in Q3, primarily on favorable mix with strength from premium grades serving the coatings and the wire and cable markets, coupled with the combined [Technical Difficulty] pass-through effect. Specialty demand [Technical Difficulty] sequentially during Q3 and declined 8% on a year-over-year basis.

Western region demand softened, most notably in polymers and distribution channels. We believe customers are destocking in these regions as their procurement priorities have shifted from security of supply [Technical Difficulty] high-cost inventory as the Middle East conflict continues to create volatility in oil-based feedstocks. Year-to-date, Specialty segment adjusted EBITDA of nearly $92 million is up approximately $25 million or 37% compared to the prior year, with favorable mix and the pass-through effect of raw materials representing the largest drivers of year-over-year improvement.

Just a little bit of forward-looking commentary here. We expect modest specialty results in Q4 on more pronounced fourth quarter seasonality and destocking. We also expect heavier-than-normal turnaround activity and associated costs in Q4 as we moved turnarounds to later in the year to take advantage of demand strength earlier in the year. Regarding 2027, we have several levers to drive Specialty segment performance. These include upgrading our product mix, sourcing [Technical Difficulty] initiatives.

On Slide 7, our Rubber segment adjusted EBITDA of $41 million increased 15% year-over-year in Q3. The combined effect of emission allowance timing and the pass-through effect from higher raw materials more than offset lower annual contract pricing and unfavorable regional mix. Rubber volumes declined 4% year-over-year with slightly higher demand in EMEA more than offset by declines in both the Americas and APAC.

The improvement in EMEA was consistent with resilience exhibited in that region's replacement tire market, whereas tire build rates in North America have yet to recover. A bit of additional forward-looking commentary here. We expect subdued Rubber segment results in Q4, owing primarily to lower year-over-year contract pricing and more pronounced fourth quarter seasonality as well as turnaround activity and related costs. Regarding 2027, we see multiple areas to drive segment performance, including further improvements in plant reliability, benefits from feedstock sourcing initiatives and continued strength in the spot market, particularly in North America.

Slide 8 summarizes many of the points we've already made on free cash flow, working capital and our financial position. Capital expenditures were lower sequentially in Q3, contributing favorably to our cash flow performance during the quarter. We finished the quarter with net debt of $918 million and a 4.1x leverage ratio based on the trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. Total liquidity was $193 million at quarter's end. We further enhanced our liquidity at the third -- after the third quarter ended when we unwound favorable cross-currency and interest rate swaps related to our European term loans, taking advantage of favorable market conditions and monetized $27 million embedded in the instrument. This decision highlights our proactive approach to risk management and our balance sheet focus. With that, I'll turn the call back to Corning.

Corning Painter

Thanks, Jon. On Slide 9, we share updated guidance metrics, including the narrowing of our adjusted EBITDA guidance towards the high end of our previous range. Our free cash flow guidance remains unchanged, although we would have lifted the lower end of that range if not [Technical Difficulty] prices. We remain on track for $90 million of capital expenditures in 2026, a $70 million reduction versus last year.

Finally, the implied Q4 EBITDA expectations reflects above normal seasonality in both segments [Technical Difficulty] as Jon mentioned. Turning to Slide 10. To sum it up, we delivered $171 million of adjusted EBITDA year-to-date. We delivered on free cash flow, and we did this in spite of the turmoil in the world. We are determined that 2026 will be our trough year and that in 2027, we will return to growth. We're not relying on the market. We are taking action on the things we control to drive improvement going forward. We appreciate your interest in joining us today. And with that, Dylan, let's open up the call for Q&A. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Josh Spector with UBS.

Preguntas y respuestas

Christopher Perrella

It's Chris Perrella on for Josh. As I think about the fourth quarter there. Can you just -- is it further destocking in both segments that's driving the weakness absent the EU credits? Or is pricing also down? Is there margin compression that you're seeing in Specialty? Can you just go a little bit deeper there? And then I have a follow-up on inventory.

Corning Painter

Sure. Yes. No, it's really just -- if you put yourself in the shoes of a master-batch company or another manufacturer downstream from us, and maybe a lot of your feedstocks are oil-based in price. Nobody really wants to have a lot of inventory. I mean what happened in the last 2 days would be great if you had some inventory -- I would say, disastrous, excuse me, if you had inventory, right? The price just went down, you bought it when it's expensive, now it's cheaper. I think people are just very cautious about wanting any inventory, whereas maybe in Q2, people were really worried about supply and what's going to happen in this and that.

It's not a margin issue for us [Technical Difficulty] customers signaling that they are very cautious. They've all along given us very short forecast periods and expressed not a lot of clarity about further out. But our sense of customers are they're pretty cautious about November and where they want to end in December.

Jonathan Puckett

Yes. And Chris, I would just add to that, too, is turnaround timing is a pretty big factor in our fourth quarter as well. And that was intentional on our part. We pushed turnarounds to the end of the year just to take advantage of demand strength that was earlier in the year. And so that's a pretty significant impact. And the other element that we've talked about all year is the annual contract pricing in rubber, and that's consistent with prior quarters, that's about a $10 million impact on price.

Corning Painter

Yes. So there's that margin, but that's like continue. There's nothing new there. And if I take you back to earlier this year, like when you did see a surge in demand when the war began, I think we all had the concern that at some point, though, the consumer is going to run out of gas, right, so to speak. And we wanted to like make the product while the going is good because at some point, there was a concern that demand would be destroyed. So we pushed it back. And all in all, we feel pretty good about that.

Christopher Perrella

Is the turnaround impact evenly split between the 2 segments? And then just a follow-up on the inventory. How low are they versus normal? And can you move them? I know you're looking to generate cash. Is there more water to be run from that sponge?

Jonathan Puckett

Yes. On the turnaround timing, it's more weighted towards Specialty than to Rubber. It's probably 75% Specialty, 25% Rubber. And then on the inventory, yes, that's going to be a little bit mixed geographically. There are some areas of the world where we can take a little more adjust safety stocks down, and that's probably in Europe. In the Americas, where we've seen a lot of spot demand, we'd probably be a little more cautious there.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho.

Saurabh Dhir

This is Saurabh on for John Roberts. So I guess, first, can you parse out the impact on EBITDA from the raw material pass-through and the EU allowances?

Jonathan Puckett

We did spike out the allowances, and that's about the $17 million. So -- and the split, just so you can do it, Saurabh, is, it's about 30% in Specialty and 70% in Rubber. And then -- and we've laid out the combined impact. So I think you can parse out the rest of the math from that.

Saurabh Dhir

And on the contract negotiations for next year, like can you provide us some hints and color on like what are you seeing for next year? Any encouragement from the customers?

Corning Painter

Yes, sure. Let me speak to that. So first of all, it's commercially sensitive. So I can only kind of make high-level comments. Also, let's say, of our total rubber sales into the tire industry, we're probably about 50% contracted. Keep in mind, we have one large customer [Technical Difficulty] no negotiation with them.

You might have heard some comments earlier this week from a competitor talking about tire imports down, manufacturing hasn't moved that much. I want to make it clear. We are not resigned on that subject. And we are not [Technical Difficulty] negotiating for next year, and we are pushing hard on what's a fair price, the right price, look at all the spot demand that's underinvestment, we think, from some people in maintenance. This is what the industry needs, and we are pushing hard for that. I'd also say I'm very focused on the companies with whom we can be partners. And in some cases, if our expectations are too far apart, you know what, we can just hold back some and play the spot market. I think that's going to be pretty robust next year.

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Rizzo with Jefferies.

Daniel Rizzo

Just a follow up on what you just said. Is the spot market in the U.S. relatively large? I thought it was mostly contract or I should say in North America really?

Corning Painter

Yes, you're absolutely right. It is traditionally like contracted. But the catch is if somebody has unplanned downtime and they can't fulfill it, then you see people come out. In Europe, you see more where there's people who are relying on, let's say, imported carbon black, maybe at the very bottom, not really tire manufacturers, very bottom, you see some of that in the U.S. And so for example, when Chinese prices spiked, we definitely saw some people now looking for new sources of supply. But by and large, in North America, we attribute this to unplanned downtime by others.

Daniel Rizzo

Okay. And then given the productivity you've done and the reliability you've created, how should we think about incremental margins when a recovery eventually occurs? Would it be -- I mean, how much -- I would assume it would be higher, but how much? And also along the same lines, how should we think about mid-cycle margins in both segments really?

Corning Painter

So I mean, I think our rule of thumb on incremental -- what incremental margins [Technical Difficulty] rubber in the 300s. And I think that's a margin off of wherever the contract pricing is in that time frame. So I think I'd still use that today. I don't know, Jon, if you...

Jonathan Puckett

No, I think that's about right, Corning.

Corning Painter

Yes.

Jonathan Puckett

Yes. And then as far as mid-cycle margins, we really think of it as maybe mid-cycle EBITDA. And we anticipate [Technical Difficulty] and then if you can get back to a more normalized production level and import level balance in the Americas, you're going to be able to step up significantly EBITDA in each of the segment. And I think that size in the neighborhood of $50 million to $100 million, you could step up over a period of time.

And the key point on mid-cycle also is kind of unique in the tire market in that so much of tire demand is replacement. Tire sales in North America, Europe, it's good, right, down a little bit in trucking because of trucking activity, but passenger car, light truck, it's fine. The whole issue has been the level of imports there. So like what we really need in that part is sort of a little bit of reversion towards the norm on that as we move forward from where we are today rather than like dramatic [Technical Difficulty] you know replacement tires, that's a consumable and people are driving.

Daniel Rizzo

I'm sorry, you broke up a few times. So just with the tariffs in the U.S. and the antidumping in the EU, that's having minimal effect as of right now?

Corning Painter

Well, it's having an effect in that you can see a drop in the amount of imported tires, really quite marked. You see that. You don't yet see really a pickup in tire manufacturing. So I would relate that to, look, we're in an inventory drawdown to the comments we said earlier. People are destocking. Nobody wants a lot of inventory, perhaps in anticipation of expected tariffs or duties, people imported extra earlier. I don't think we're really going to see that at this point until into next year. But you definitely see a reduction in tire imports.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho Securities.

John Ezekiel Roberts

Oil prices have come off hard in the last couple of days, both in the spot market and the 12-month Brent futures. Do you think that's going to exacerbate the customer destocking that you highlighted you think is already underway?

Corning Painter

I think volatility makes people cautious. At a lower number, maybe people will start buying again though. But you're absolutely right. Like we started working on the script a couple of days ago, current prices, yesterday's prices, it's a pretty dynamic time. And that's part of our point. It's pretty agile to make the most of this. And so when they turn on, fine, we'll be ready for it. And all these cross currents and raw materials and what's better, what's worse, like we're just trying to make the most of that in this pretty dynamic time we're in. But I think if oil prices come down, that's going to be good for the consumer. I think ultimately, that would be a positive.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Corning Painter for closing comments.

Corning Painter

Well, thank you all for your time and your interest today. We're going to be engaging with investors over the next several weeks. We have an NYSE event coming up and a small cap conference in Dallas. And we look forward to being able to say more about our 2027 and our fourth quarter results call in February. Thanks very much, and have a good rest of your day.

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.