Eversource Energy (ES) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会：每股收益指引与FERC退款最新进展

核心要点

• Eversource Energy公布2026年第三季度GAAP及Non-GAAP经常性每股收益为0.92美元，而2025年第三季度GAAP每股收益为0.99美元，经常性每股收益为1.19美元。
• 管理层将2026年Non-GAAP每股收益指引区间收窄至4.62至4.70美元，并将中值上调至4.66美元。
• 公司重申了截至2030年的265亿美元公用事业基础设施投资计划。一项最新入选的输电项目有望在现有计划之外为Eversource额外增加潜在7亿美元的投资规模。
• 在监管回收、风暴成本证券化以及基于绩效的年度费率调整支持下，Eversource依然确信每股收益增速有望在2028年前达到其5%至7%长期目标区间的上半部分。
• Revolution Wind已投入商业运营。目前工程建设已完工且项目正在发电，Eversource认为其现有准备金足以覆盖2027年与买方结算的潜在义务。
• 与FERC相关的不确定性依然显著。重新核算超过10年的输电退款十分复杂，管理层表示在2027年5月截止日期前完成可能面临挑战。

核心财务数据

净利润同比下滑反映了FERC在3月19日做出的将输电股本回报率降至9.57%的决定、约4000万美元未获核准的CL&P风暴成本、出售Aquarion后水务业务收益的损失，以及较高的有效税率。基于绩效的监管机制和资本追踪机制下的费率上调部分抵消了上述压力。

业务与运营表现

Eversource计划未来五年内在康涅狄格州配电基础设施投资40亿美元，具体取决于监管程序。该计划优先考虑老化基础设施置换、可靠性、韧性和电网现代化。

在CL&P费率案中，所申请收入差额的66%与资本投资相关，17%用于年度风暴恢复和植被管理，约5000万美元（即12%）与运营和维护相关。管理层表示，如果自上次费率指令以来成本与通胀同步上升，运维费用申请金额本将接近1亿美元。

马萨诸塞州智能电表安装量已超过50万只，部署进度达到约三分之一。Eversource还在通过CL&P费率案寻求在康涅狄格州推进高级计量基础设施的批准。

新英格兰独立系统运营商（ISO New England）在2025年长期输电规划程序中选定Eversource与Avangrid的提案作为最终解决方案。在该总投资22亿美元的项目中，Eversource所占份额为7亿美元，目前尚未计入现行资本计划。

美国能源部的SPARK计划为DREAM项目初步批准了约5000万美元的潜在资金，尚待最终协议达成。该项目与达特茅斯工程学院合作开发，预计将于2027年启动，利用先进电网技术提升现有基础设施的容量和可靠性。

管理层业绩指引

Eversource将2026年Non-GAAP每股收益预期收窄至每股4.62至4.70美元。管理层还重申其预期，即到2028年盈利增速将迈向公司5%-7%长期目标区间的上半部分。

管理层明确了2028年的若干预期增长驱动因素：

• CL&P费率案带来的全年费率调整效益。
• 预计对康涅狄格州和新罕布什尔州11亿美元的风暴成本进行证券化，其中康涅狄格州的现金收益预计将于2027年年中到位，新罕布什尔州的收益预计将于2028年初到位。
• 通胀挂钩的基于绩效的监管机制下持续的年度费率调整。
• 自2027年11月1日起生效的最终EGMA费率基准纳入带来的全年收益。
• 在与马萨诸塞州监管机构沟通后，NSTAR Electric有望自2028年初启动潜在的费率调整程序。

公司计划在公布2026年第四季度业绩时提供全面的资本计划更新。

风险与关键关注事项

输电退款流程需要重新核算约154个月的负荷结算和账单数据。管理层表示，相较于FERC规定的2027年5月截止日期，准确性更为优先，并指出如有必要可申请延期。

Eversource正在哥伦比亚特区巡回上诉法院就追溯退款提出上诉。最终辩护状将于2027年4月2日提交，管理层认为裁决可能在2027年夏末或初秋出炉。然而，根据GAAP，如果该项义务变得很可能发生且金额能够合理估计，公司可能必须在上诉结案前确认最终退款金额。

第205条程序同样尚未解决。根据FERC的方法采用更新参数计算，Eversource提交的申请得出11.39%的ROE，而使用Bloomberg Beta的替代计算得出的结果为10.79%。管理层表示，其他各方的立场大多在9%低段至9%高段之间。

在康涅狄格州，Eversource就PURA于7月29日做出的风暴成本裁决中的两项内容提出上诉：裁决日前谨慎发生的成本被拒付资金占用费，以及通过外推法否决的约800万美元成本。

分析师问答要点

• FERC退款时间：管理层表示，现金影响将随时间推移逐步显现，而非在2027年5月前完全产生，因为各公用事业公司将输电费用的超额或不足回收金额传导至零售客户的时间表各不相同。
• 信用保护：Eversource计划将FFO对债务比率维持在高于评级机构下调阈值约100个基点的水平。电话会议召开时，三大评级机构对Eversource及其子公司的评级展望均为稳定。
• CL&P费率案：管理层称与PURA的沟通具有建设性，但表示评估和解前景还为时过早。公司已回复了约2100个调查问询。
• 康涅狄格州高级计量基础设施：最新的成本估算将通过费率案提交。管理层预计，分别定于2027年5月和6月发布的裁决草案与最终裁决将使情况更加明朗。
• 融资需求：管理层重申截至2030年的股权融资需求为8亿至11亿美元，并表示在出售Aquarion后，目前认为近期没有股权融资需求。

业绩电话会议完整实录

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完整财报电话会议逐字稿

管理层陈述

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Eversource Energy Q3 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Rima Hyder, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Rima Hyder

Good morning and thank you for joining us today on our third quarter 2026 earnings call. During this call, we'll be referencing slides that are available on our website at investors.eversource.com. As you can see on Slide 1, some of the statements made during this investor call may be forward-looking. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risk and uncertainty, which may cause the actual results to differ materially from forecasts and projections. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any of these statements.

Additional information about the various factors that may cause actual results to differ and our explanation of non-GAAP measures and how they reconcile to GAAP results is contained within our news release, the slides we posted last night and in our most recent 10-Q and 10-K. Speaking today will be Joe Nolan, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and John Moreira, our Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Also joining us today is Jay Buth, our Vice President, Controller and Chief Accounting Officer.

I will now turn the call over to Joe.

Joseph Nolan

Thank you, Rima and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter results reflect another period of strong execution and solid performance across our business. As you can see on Slide 4, we entered the year with a clear set of priorities and our team has consistently delivered against those objectives while navigating an evolving regulatory landscape. While there is still work to do in the months ahead, we are entering the final months of the year with strong performance and positive momentum and confident in our ability to continue to deliver for customers, communities and shareholders.

Let me start with a few recent highlights on Slide 5. As you may have heard on Ørsted's earnings call this morning, Revolution Wind has reached its commercial operations date. Construction is now complete and the wind farm is generating electricity. This significant milestone comes at a critical time for our region, where extreme temperatures have underscored how important it is to bring every potential energy source online for customers. This project adds essential new supply that enhances grid reliability, meets growing demand and ensures dependable power when our customers need it most. For Eversource, construction completion significantly reduces our risk of further financial obligations. As part of the sale of the offshore wind assets, we have certain contractual obligations with the buyer that we need to close out and settle up with them in 2027. As we have stated before, this will take some time to fully reconcile. Our current assessment is that we have an adequate reserve on our books to cover this potential obligation.

On the regulatory front, we have made significant progress on the CL&P rate case that we filed several months ago. We have responded to thousands of requests for data and information from various parties and we look forward to working collaboratively with PURA and others on our rate request. Affordability remains a central pillar in this rate case. In this rate request, we've made proposals for balancing the critical need for a stronger, more resilient electric system to support Connecticut's energy future and the imperative to moderate customer bill impacts and maintain affordability over the long term. For example, we have proposed performance-based rates, or PBR, to support system investments while incorporating strong cost efficiency measures and mitigating the impact of future rate adjustments for customers over the long term. John will provide even more details on our strong cost control measures and how they will help address affordability.

Another important element of the CL&P rate case is the opportunity to further increase our investment in Connecticut. We believe the constructive engagement we've had with regulators and stakeholders has created a path forward that balances affordability with the investments needed to deliver safe, reliable and resilient service. We're ready to invest $4 billion in Connecticut's distribution infrastructure over the next 5 years. Our comprehensive plan proactively prioritizes the replacement of aging infrastructure and supports investments required to operate a modern grid long term for our customers. We appreciate the constructive dialogue that is now possible with PURA. We expect that this collaborative approach will help to advance critical investment in reliability, resiliency and innovation and will continue to help us to meet the evolving needs of the customers and communities we serve.

On the FERC ROE matter, we have line of sight into the timing and the next steps for both the prospective ROE decision and our pending appeal case in the D.C. Circuit Court on the long-dated refund. John will provide more details in a few minutes. We look forward to resolving this matter with FERC in a constructive and balanced manner. The back and forth with FERC and the New England transmission owners does not take away from the fact that energy supply costs and public policy have long been the leading cause of the energy affordability challenges facing customers across New England. Those challenges cannot be meaningfully addressed without bringing more and varied energy supply into the region urgently. In fact, we can proudly say that our prior investments in transmission have contributed significantly to energy affordability, delivering billions of dollars in savings for customers over the years by eliminating significant congestion costs for the region while making the grid more resilient.

Moving on to our strategic and innovative investments and developments. In Massachusetts, we reached a major milestone in our statewide smart meter rollout in the third quarter. We have now installed over 500,000 smart meters, making us 1/3 of the way to completing our rollout in Massachusetts. This significant progress has moved us closer to a smarter, more responsive electric system. Last quarter, we told you that ISO New England had preliminarily selected the joint proposal submitted by Eversource and Avangrid as the preferred solution for the 2025 longer-term transmission planning RFP. We are pleased to confirm that our joint proposal was selected as the final solution. As a reminder, Eversource's portion of the $2.2 billion project is $700 million, which is an upside to our current capital investment plan.

The proposed project will enhance reliability for customers and enable new energy supply resources from Northern New England to be delivered to the load pockets in Southern New England. This project will ease congestion on the regional transmission system and help to address customer affordability. We are grateful that ISO New England continues to evaluate long-term resource adequacy. New sources of supply, including offshore wind and hydro imports are helping strengthen New England's long-term resource mix and improve energy adequacy. However, reliability improvements are being driven not only by additional energy resources but also by continued investment to address aging transmission infrastructure, grid modernization and system planning needed to integrate those resources effectively.

These kinds of infrastructure investments are core competencies and have been for decades and we know how to do it in the most cost-effective manner. We were pleased to receive a grant award from the U.S. Department of Energy's SPARK program for the Dynamic Rating Enhancement Advancements and Modernization, or DREAM initiative, developed in partnership with Dartmouth Engineering. The project will leverage advanced grid technologies to enhance reliability, increase capacity on the existing system and potentially avoid higher cost infrastructure investments and thereby resulting in lower costs for customers. Pending a final agreement, the award could represent approximately $50 million in funding for the initiative, which would be expected to begin in 2027. Beyond the benefits of this project, the award demonstrates the opportunity for future collaboration with DOE and serves as a blueprint for innovative solutions that can help modernize the grid while delivering value to customers.

As I have said before, another important opportunity for investment and development for our region is the addition of new reliable energy supply resources. New England continues to face some of the highest electricity costs in the country, driven in part by constraints on the energy supply and the infrastructure needed to deliver it. Eversource has long been a critical enabler of New England's energy future and our scale and expertise across both transmission and distribution uniquely positions us to connect new generation resources, strengthen grid reliability and deliver even greater value to customers in the region. This has been the Eversource journey for years and we have played a vital role in making the grid more reliable.

Finally, I want to highlight a proud moment for Eversource. We were recently named to Time Magazine's list of America's Best Companies for 2026. This award reflects the dedication of over 10,000 employees who work every day to safely deliver reliable energy and exceptional service to our customers with an ever-present focus on affordability.

Let me now turn the call over to John to discuss our third quarter financials and other business matters.

John Moreira

Thank you, Joe and good morning, everyone. This morning, I will review our third quarter earnings results, provide an update on regulatory matters, discuss our balance sheet progress and provide an update on our 2026 guidance.

I will start with our third quarter results on Slide 7. Our GAAP and non-GAAP recurring earnings for the third quarter were $0.92 per share compared with GAAP earnings of $0.99 per share and non-GAAP recurring earnings of $1.19 per share in the third quarter of 2025. The decrease in earnings over the prior year is driven by a few items. First, the March 19 FERC decision that reduced our transmission ROE rate to 9.57%. Second, as we stated in our second quarter earnings call, the disallowance of roughly $40 million of CL&P storm costs in PURA's final July decision. Third, due to the sale of Aquarion, we don't have earnings from the water segment. And lastly, we have the impact from a higher effective tax rate this year as compared to last year. These items were offset by rate increases under various PBR plans and capital trackers. I do want to emphasize that while some of these drivers that I have highlighted are headwinds today, however, these are necessary steps to becoming a pure-play pipes and wires, electric and gas utility.

These include the resolution of outstanding regulatory issues, recovery of our storm costs and the successful completion of asset sales, which have strengthened our balance sheet and lowered our risk profile. Moving on to a regulatory update on Slide 8. Let me start with the CL&P rate case. Since we filed our rate request in July, we have been encouraged by the engagement we have seen from PURA and other interveners. Our team has responded to thousands of data requests and the questions are thoughtful and in-depth, showing a rigorous engagement from all parties to understand our rate request and how it supports reliability and affordability for customers. As you can see on this slide, 66% of the revenue deficiency is for capital investments in the system. Those are investments to address reliability, resiliency and modernization of the electric grid.

Next, we have 17% of the revenue deficiency for the recovery of costs related to annual storm restoration and vegetation management. The proposed veg management will enhance reliability on blue sky days as well as during storm events by reducing the damage and thereby lowering restoration costs for customers. I also want to point out the O&M component of the revenue deficiency of approximately $50 million or 12% of the total request. We are very proud of this number as we continuously seek opportunities to lower our operating costs on behalf of customers.

To put this in perspective for you, let's move on to Slide 9. If we had grown O&M at the same rate of inflation since our last rate order, that number would have been nearly $100 million. We run the business as efficiently as possible because we are focused on customer affordability in everything we do. The rate case also includes a variety of other items to address affordability but I'll just briefly highlight one that Joe touched on earlier. In our rate request, we proposed a multiyear PBR mechanism that provides gradual inflation index rate changes on an annual basis to avoid significant rate impacts for customers. This mechanism also includes targeted performance metrics for transparency and accountability. We are very familiar with this type of rate mechanism as we have it in other jurisdictions. Also in Connecticut, we have made substantial progress in the securitization of deferred storm costs. PURA's procedural schedule will provide a final decision at the end of January, enabling cash in the door by the middle of next year. PURA shares our interest in completing the securitization financing as quickly as possible.

Lastly, in Connecticut, in October, we filed an appeal in Superior Court challenging 2 components of PURA's July 29 storm cost decision. First, we challenged PURA's denial of carrying charges on prudently incurred storm costs prior to its decision date as articulated in our October 15 court filing. The second component of our appeal relates to PURA's finding that disallowed roughly $8 million in costs based on an extrapolation method of review that was not raised during the proceeding. Moving to Slide 10. I would like to update you on the FERC ROE process. First, on the Section 205 filing. The briefing process was completed at the end of September. We now await FERC's decision on the ROE that would become effective on November 30. Next is our appeal of the retroactive refund. The D.C. Circuit Court approved our procedural schedule, which sets a deadline for the final briefs in early April of next year.

With that schedule, we believe that the court could issue a decision in late summer or early fall of next year. We are cautiously optimistic about this case and continue to believe that we have a sound legal argument against the long-dated refund period. However, as we continue to work through the refund calculation methodology, Generally Accepted Accounting Principles may require us to reflect the final refund amount in our financial statements before the case is concluded. In the meantime, we are working with ISO New England, the other New England transmission owners and load serving entities to prepare the refund. This is an incredibly complex labor-intensive process to recalculate 10-plus years' worth of load settlement and billing data. Given these complexities and the significance of this refund process, we know it will be challenging to process these refunds by FERC's deadline of May of next year.

Moving to Slide 11. I would like to share the latest affirmation of our financial strategy, which is that our FFO-to-debt metrics remains solid and all 3 rating agencies have Eversource and all subsidiaries on stable outlook. Our latest FFO-to-debt ratios as of June 30 of this year are 15.4% and 16.1% for S&P and Moody's, respectively. We are proud that these credit metrics have continued to improve over the last several quarters. We will continue to manage our FFO-to-debt ratios to be around 100 basis points above the downgrade thresholds. I also want to note that we did assume interest rates moving higher in our long-term guidance. We also have some flexibility to manage how we finance the maturities that are coming due next year. That flexibility comes from the recent sale of Aquarion and the pending securitization of storm costs. We also have hybrids now as part of our capital structure and certainly have room to do more if needed.

We are going to use all the tools available in managing our financing needs. As a reminder, while we are discussing debt and interest rates, the PBR mechanisms we have in place in Massachusetts and New Hampshire are inflation indexed, helping to mitigate the effects of a higher interest rate environment. Next, let me reaffirm our 5-year capital plan of $26.5 billion, as shown on Slide 12. This reflects our 5-year utility infrastructure investments through 2030. As we mentioned last quarter, we continue to highlight the increase to our capital forecast, thanks to ISO New England's decision to select our project as a result of their RFP and the potential for AMI investment in Connecticut. We will provide a comprehensive update as part of our fourth quarter earnings call.

Turning to Slide 13. We have narrowed our non-GAAP EPS guidance range to $4.62 to $4.70 per share for 2026, which increases our midpoint to $4.66 per share. Lastly, on Slide 14, we remain confident in our ability to deliver earnings growth towards the upper half of our long-term target range of 5% to 7% by 2028. We have consistently delivered on our commitments, advancing key initiatives that are reshaping our growth trajectory. This is supported by constructive regulatory progress, including storm cost securitization, the forthcoming CL&P rate case decision in mid-2027 and the monetization of Aquarion. We are entering our next phase from a position of strength and are confident in our ability to drive higher growth, greater financial flexibility and long-term value creation.

With that, I will now turn the call back to the operator for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Carly Davenport of Goldman Sachs.

分析师问答

Carly Davenport

Maybe just to start on the Section 206 refund appeal. Can you just talk a little bit more about the range of outcomes there? Is there any avenue to change the May deadline or maybe to refund it in stages? Or perhaps can you walk us through the implications if that deadline is not met, just given your assessment that it's going to be quite challenging to get all of it done by May of '27?

John Moreira

Yes. Carly, this is John. Yes, as I stated in my formal remarks, it is challenging and we have been working on it with the parties that I highlighted in my remarks. Similar to what we've seen conducted before when other companies, in particular, MISO has had some multiyear refunds, they have requested a refund -- an extension of that refund period. So it's too early to predict exactly if that extension is needed but it's really important to New England to make sure that the calculations of this refund are adequate. That's first and foremost, so that all the suppliers, the wholesale load serving parties get the appropriate rate reduction and that trickles down to the retail side.

So it's important for us to once again get it right and avoid any further complications. And then secondly, on the appeal, right now, FERC did approve -- FERC did -- the court did approve that our proposed schedule would take final briefs by all the parties due to the court by April 2. Very encouraged by that. That is a bit on an accelerated track. So with that time frame, we project that the court could be in a good position to render a decision. All arguments will have to be scheduled. But with that time frame, we could see a decision, as I said, in -- by the end of summer or early fall, which is we're really encouraged by that.

Carly Davenport

Got it. Okay. Great. That's super helpful. And then maybe just the follow-up is on the FFO to debt. Great to see the progress there. Just as you think about the projected cushion versus your downgrade thresholds, obviously, the target is a bit below where you are now. So can you just help us frame how that might ebb and flow through the planning period relative to the 300 basis points of cushion that you have now?

John Moreira

Well, I feel as the guidance that we're out there with achieving that 100 basis points, we think we can do it even with this refund. It's funny because if you read the report that Moody's and Fitch rendered in the midst of this pending refund being on the table, they indicated that they would view this as a onetime nonrecurring item. So I'm very encouraged by that and we start our spring meetings with them in the spring of next year. So that's something that we will tee up. And as a reminder, just because these refunds have been issued by the end of May, the cash outflow will be beyond that period because that has to trickle down to the retail side. And all of our 3 utilities are on different time frames as to when that transmission under/over recovery would be implemented. So this is going to be over time and the cash out the door is not necessarily all going to happen between now and May of next year.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Shar Pourreza of Wells Fargo.

Anders Myhre

This is actually Anders on for Shar. Yes. So as it relates to CL&P and thanks for all the updates in the prepared remarks. But I was curious, now that we're kind of post elections, does that lower the temperature as it relates to this ongoing rate case or possibly increase the likelihood of reaching a settlement? Or do you think this is one that PURA wants to take all the way to the end?

Joseph Nolan

Yes. Well, it's -- we are working through this case. As you know, we have not been in the rate arena since 2018. So that's going to require a lot of details, which is evident by the number of information requests that the team has fulfilled so far. So we've got a lot of wood to chop before we get to a position where we would be able to talk settlement. I think that's from our standpoint and from the party standpoint. Again, we're going to put on the best case we can. We've made significant investments in Connecticut. I think it's evident by the fact that the reliability numbers are best-in-class. So we're very proud of that. We're making the investments. And so yes, we'll continue to have dialogue. Obviously, the issue around affordability, that's not going away. But certainly, the solutions and the ideas that we have as we look at some of the public benefit charges that have been kind of hoisted on the utilities to collect. And now we're bringing that transparency, which is all that we've ever wanted. Let customers see what they're paying for.

So again, the dialogue is very good down there. The PURA is very engaged. We've had very constructive dialogue, very constructive hearings. And what I'm so encouraged by is the fact that all 5 commissioners and staff are actively involved in these hearings. And just as we have our team, we have our entire executive team down in Connecticut, is participating. So we certainly have all the players at the table and people that are in a position to talk settlement if that's what the folks want. But right now, we're going to put on the best case we can and we'll -- we're optimistic for a good outcome, a fair outcome, I guess, I should say.

Anders Myhre

Great. That's good to hear. And then maybe second, can you provide some additional color around the Connecticut AMI opportunity? Maybe touching on items like what the approval process will look like, what is needed from PURA, anything around timing? And what level of certainty you would need to have before it is rolled into your plan?

John Moreira

Yes. Andrew (sic) [ Anders ], we have introduced that in the rate proceeding and that's part of our request. So once again, as Joe said, we're in the early stages of that proceeding. We're in the discovery mode. So it's too early for us to make any judgment. But we feel good. We've had dialogue. There's been technical sessions with PURA -- all of the commissioners. And we are now updating our cost estimate and we'll introduce that as part of the rate case process. So the rate case decision, we have a draft -- there's a draft decision date of May and a final decision date of June. So we'll have more clarity certainly around that time frame.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan Levine of Citi.

Ryan Levine

A couple of questions around the FERC process. I guess in terms of the -- I guess a couple of things. What are some of the stakeholder feedback items that you see within the FERC ROE formula interpretation into the decision later this month? And then secondly, practically, what's the process to get a refund executed? Are there detailed records kept for this long time period? Is it paper, digital? Any color you could share on that?

John Moreira

Sure, sure. Let me start with the latter part of your request. So the data, we have to work very closely with ISO New England. That's -- they're the keeper of this load data. So we have to work with them and we have been working with them for months now. So they are the key party to this and as well as working with other load serving entities and other distribution, transmission companies. So that's kind of the process that we are pursuing and progressing on. To address your first question, which was -- I forget what it was now, Ryan, please repeat it.

Ryan Levine

The key stakeholder items in the FERC ROE formula interpretation.

John Moreira

Yes. I think right now, it's all predicated on what the ROE. And I would say that the range from the parties are in the 9s, low 9s to high 9s. So once again, it's too early. We use -- as you know, we use the FERC methodology. We did not change it. All we did was updated for inputs to reflect current market conditions and the output of that was an 11.39% ROE. So that's where we are today.

Ryan Levine

In that formula, there's a lot of key assumptions. Are there any that you want to call out as maybe more room for discussion within the components of that calculation?

John Moreira

The only one that we did call out and that was introduced in our 205 filing was, we've been hearing from FERC that they want us to use from a beta standpoint, Bloomberg beta and not Value Line. So we did include that change as an alternative ROE and that calculation resulted in a 10.79% ROE. So that's really all we can say at this point.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Travis Miller of Morningstar Inc.

John Moreira

Operator, we think he might have dropped.

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from Paul Zimbardo of Jefferies.

Paul Zimbardo

The first one I had was, I noticed that the sources and uses slide wasn't in the presentation. Anything kind of material that's changed quarter-over-quarter we should be aware of?

John Moreira

Not really, no. No, you're going to see our statement of cash flows that we'll plan to file by the close of market today. You'll see that there's really nothing other than the typical regulatory recoveries but nothing else is significant there.

Paul Zimbardo

Okay. Understood. And then one to clarify just on the commentary on the refund, I might have missed it. Were you saying that it could become a probable charge and it's not probable today? Just if you could help clarify kind of -- has your view changed? That would be helpful.

John Moreira

Yes. So let me start by saying, first and foremost, we -- whatever happens on that topic, we feel very good, as I indicated and highlighted in my formal remarks about our legal position, okay? However, when any entity starts paying off its obligations, you have to assess what the -- is it probable that, that's going to be sustained. So that's what we're in the midst of. So really from an accounting and GAAP standpoint, you have to meet 2 conditions: the probability of the event happening and is it estimatable? And that's what we're working through right now. As I said, this calculation going back 154 months is very complex and complicated. And we -- and as I mentioned, highlighted in Carly's question, it's more priority for us to get the calculations correctly than it is for us to meet a deadline.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Patterson of Glenrock Association (sic) [ Glenrock Associates ].

Paul Patterson

I just wanted to touch base on -- first of all, on AMI, I mean, that proceeding -- well, you're putting it as part of this rate case proceeding but you guys have put forward that proposal for some time. I'm just wondering, has the technology changed? Has -- or obviously, the commission has but you mentioned a cost update. I'm just sort of wondering when that might come up or -- or how should we think about that?

Joseph Nolan

Well, the beautiful thing with this technology is it's open architecture, so we're able to continue to have this technology evolve. And the innovation that's taking place and some of the enhancements that have taken place can just bolt right on to this existing technology. So we're thrilled with that. We've been seeing this technology evolve. The results here in Massachusetts and what our customers are seeing has been very, very positive. I actually have them on my home and it's been wonderful to understand. It's wonderful to get a note telling you that you're going to exceed what you did last month, what you did last year. And I think it's going to begin to bring the line of sight that we think is important.

As I always say to folks, it'd be like walking into a restaurant without any prices on the menu and then you get the bill and you're in a state of shock. Well, at least now you're beginning to see how your month is evolving and so customers can plan accordingly. You can also set budgets and things like that. So it definitely is -- the technology is improving. But the good news is, the product that we have, the Itron product allows all of this to continue to enhance the product that we've already installed in customers' houses. And John, if you want to touch in terms of Connecticut or what...

John Moreira

Yes. I mean we stand at the ready to move forward with AMI in Connecticut. Let me just start with that first and foremost. The technology that we've seen, we are using the most current technology and we're not seeing any major changes and we've been at this installation and project 4 years now. So we feel very good about the product we're using. As Joe mentioned, the benefits that customers are seeing is certainly presenting tremendous value for customers.

Paul Patterson

Awesome. So I'm just wondering, there's been some discussion in other states and what have you about virtual power plants as a means of lowering bills actually. But I'm just wondering, is that also perhaps an opportunity from an earnings perspective? Or are you guys looking -- I mean, with this new technology and stuff, I'm just wondering whether or not, given your footprint in New England and what have you, if there's any -- if there are any thoughts that you could share with us? Or is it too early kind of thing?

Joseph Nolan

Yes. Well, a couple of things. This DREAM initiative that we just won the award, we got $50 million there with the U.S. Department of Energy. This is designed exactly at that very issue, around the virtual power plant. I will tell you that we are blessed with the amount of distributed generation on our system. And that's why the -- it's so important to have the AMI in order to enable the grid. So we're excited about it. We do see opportunities. And we do see a day when we will rely on customers and customers will rely on us in terms of what they have available for resources, whether it's a battery, whether it's solar and any other type of technology that emerges. But of course, the key foundation for that is going to be AMI technology so that we get the 2-way communication going with customers. So yes, by all means and we're always at the forefront in terms of technology and what's available. So I'm very proud of the amount of distributed generation we have on our system. We're the one utility in New England that enables this opportunity for all of our customers and we've been doing it for as long as I can remember.

Paul Patterson

Okay. Awesome. So listen, just on the PBR, this Connecticut case, the, sort of the -- this big, huge generic proceeding that seems to be off again and then on again. Do you -- is that -- it's been on hiatus now, it seems to me since around August. How should we think about this in terms of -- I know you guys have provided -- presented or proposed your own PBR in the rate case. Is that the new vehicle that we should think about this being addressed? I mean, do we...

John Moreira

Yes, that's exactly -- Paul, you're spot on. I think things might have been paused because we went in, in July and presented what we would be comfortable with the PBR structure. And once again, where -- whereas, we have already responded to 2,100 discovery questions. So we're encouraged that the commissioners want to understand the programs and everything that's being requested. So we feel good and upbeat about our PBR proposal.

Paul Patterson

Okay. And then finally, on the ROE case at FERC, you mentioned how complicated it is and how many years. And is this -- is the primary issue just trying to figure out who gets what? An allocation issue of a potential refund? Or is it something more fundamental about the actual refund amount?

John Moreira

No, that is the fundamental, is who provided the load, what was the load by month going back, as I said, 154 months, subject to double checking, based on my math, that's what I get to. So you have to understand who provided the load so that you refund it exactly to that load provider. And that data is all retained by ISO New England.

Joseph Nolan

I would take David Paz now.

John Moreira

Operator?

David Paz

Sorry, I didn't get the intro. Can you -- sorry if I missed this or you said this in the prepared remarks. But what are your remaining equity needs through 2030 under your current plan, excluding the upside of CapEx?

John Moreira

Well, the guidance that we are out there with is $800 million to $1.1 billion through 2030 and we feel good about that. As you know, we haven't issued much of any equity this year because we got the net proceeds from Aquarion of $1.7 billion. So I don't see a need for kind of near-term equity.

David Paz

Okay. So still back half of the plan, we should expect?

John Moreira

That's a good assumption, yes.

David Paz

Okay. And then just kind of related then, maybe remind me what are the drivers, high-level drivers of that higher growth in 2028 on top of a full year of CL&P rate relief? What other key assumptions are there, for instance, like Massachusetts, are you assuming an extension of the current period?

John Moreira

Sure David, good question and I'm sure that's on everyone's mind. So the first item, you nailed it, was the full year of the CL&P rate case. And then as a reminder, we do have and do expect $1.1 billion of storm costs through the securitization, both Connecticut and New Hampshire. We have line of sight and we feel good, as I mentioned in my formal remarks that, that cash in the door will happen middle of next year. So literally, 7 months from now, we'll get that cash in the door. And then we do expect New Hampshire to finalize its approval of the storm cost that we have pending up there and move forward with securitization. New Hampshire did pass, the legislation is in place to allow utilities to do that.

So we anticipate that, that cash would come in the door early '28. So having $1.1 billion of interest cost -- of debt eliminated, you do the math, it's a pretty sizable reduction in our interest costs. And then we have -- we're very fortunate to have PBR. We have annual rate adjustments. So that will continue. And as a reminder, inflation is persistent, those PBR adjustments will be higher than it's been in the past several years. And then also, we have our final rate base roll-in for EGMA that will kick in January -- November 1 of 2027. So we get the full earnings power from that in 2028. So -- and that's per the settlement agreement when we acquired Columbia Gas of Massachusetts.

And then as a reminder, 2027 is the year that we have to do a sit down across the table from the administration and the DPU as it pertains to NSTAR Electric because we're under a 10-year PBR plan. Next year is the fifth year. So we are working on that as we speak and see what we can propose and we have options. So that will likely kick in any rate activity or rate case if need be, will kick in, in early 2028. So those are the major catalysts that's going to help us really turn the corner and get to a much stronger earnings trajectory.

Operator

I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to CEO, Joe Nolan, for closing remarks.

Joseph Nolan

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We know it's a very busy earnings season -- day with multiple companies reporting. As I said at the start of the call, we are focused on finishing the year on a strong note and continue to check the box in many of our strategic initiatives. We look forward to seeing you all at EEI in a few days. Thank you, operator.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes. You may now disconnect.