Vistance Networks (VISN) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会:下调EBITDA指引
公司2026年第三季度净销售额为3.2亿美元,同比下降5%,调整后EBITDA为5700万美元。因存储芯片成本上升及客户推迟放大器订单,全年调整后EBITDA指引下调至1.8亿至2亿美元。DOCSIS 4.0升级仍为核心引擎,订单增速达41%。公司预计全年向股东返还约40亿美元。此外,CEO查尔斯·特里德威将于2月1日卸任。
核心要点
- 2026年第三季度净销售额为3.2亿美元,同比减少1800万美元,降幅为5%,主要因DOCSIS 4.0出货量增长被传统产品销售下滑所抵消。
- 调整后EBITDA为5700万美元。在浮动薪酬下降的助推下,Aurora Networks部门调整后EBITDA同比增长5%;而在美国通用会计准则(U.S. GAAP)的分摊成本列报方式下,持续经营业务调整后EBITDA大增128%。
- 鉴于存储芯片成本上升,以及客户在管理库存和部署进度时推迟放大器订单,Vistance Networks将全年调整后EBITDA指引下调至1.8亿至2亿美元。
- Aurora订单增速同比增长41%,在手积压订单达到4.1亿美元,同比增长3%。管理层表示,底层网络升级需求依然稳固,不过采购时点可能仍存在波动。
- 公司预计在2026年向股东返还约40亿美元。特别分红合计达每股16.50美元;截至10月30日,公司已耗资2.25亿美元回购2890万股股票。
- 总裁兼首席执行官查尔斯·特里德威(Charles Treadway)将于2月1日卸任。公司已启动继任程序,并表示他将继续专注于业务执行和有序交接。
核心财务数据
| 财务指标 | 2026年第三季度 | 同比变动 | 分析点评 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 净销售额 | 3.2亿美元 | 下降5% | DOCSIS 4.0的增长被传统产品销售疲软所抵消 |
| 持续经营业务调整后EBITDA | 5700万美元 | 增长128% | 反映了美国通用会计准则(U.S. GAAP)对分摊成本的规定处理 |
| Aurora Networks部门调整后EBITDA | 5700万美元 | 增长5% | 浮动薪酬下降抵消了传统产品下滑、存储成本及滞留成本的影响 |
| 调整后每股收益 | 0.23美元 | 增长283% | 2025年第三季度为0.06美元 |
| Aurora订单增速 | — | 增长41% | 较2025年第三季度有所增长 |
| Aurora积压订单 | 4.1亿美元 | 增长3% | 同比增加1100万美元 |
| 经营活动现金流 | -5700万美元 | — | 营运资金需求导致现金流出 |
| 自由现金流 | -5800万美元 | — | 同样受到营运资金影响 |
| 季度末现金 | 6.83亿美元 | — | 公司在季度末实现无未偿债务 |
业务与运营表现
DOCSIS 4.0仍是核心增长引擎。Vistance Networks报告称,其智能放大器、光节点及虚拟CMTS产品持续取得进展。公司与康卡斯特(Comcast)合作推进的FDX部署仍在继续,同时下一代ESD放大器正向多家北美大型多系统运营商(MSO)出货。管理层预计ESD出货量将在2027年进一步放量。
Aurora Networks还宣布与Ziggo达成大规模统一DOCSIS 4.0节点部署合作。该架构融合了Aurora的光节点平台、统一DAA模块、vCCAP Evo虚拟化核心平台以及ServAssure NXT域管理器。此外,公司还获得了O2的vCCAP Evo部署项目,计划在未来三年内逐步铺开。
存储芯片依然构成显著的成本压力。管理层预计2026年该因素带来的影响约为4000万美元,且部分压力将延续至2027年。公司目前正与客户协商价格、与供应商展开合作,并积极开发替代设计方案。
Vistance Networks还在积极拓展其PON产品线,包括50G PON和电信级PON。其PKI安全业务预计在2026年贡献约1000万美元营收。管理层估计其PKI产品的潜在市场空间约为7亿美元,年增速约为15%,目前正在敲定该业务的投资战略。
管理层指引
Vistance Networks将2026年全年调整后EBITDA指引下调至1.8亿至2亿美元。此次下调反映了存储芯片价格与供应压力,以及部分客户将放大器采购支出推迟至2027年。
在11月进行特别分红后,管理层预计年末现金储备将在2.75亿至3亿美元之间。该预期不包括新获批的1亿美元股票回购计划下的回购支出,但计入了提前至2026年收到的6000万美元退税。剩余1亿美元退税预计将于2027年到账。
公司预计与剥离CCS和优科网络(Ruckus)相关的大部分滞留成本将于2027年消除,所有滞留成本将在2028年前完全消除。2026年滞留成本的影响约为2000万美元。
风险与关注重点
- 预计未来数个季度存储芯片价格将逐步上涨,不过管理层预计涨幅将放缓。预计约4000万美元影响中的一部分将延续至2027年。
- 客户集中度较高使得公司业绩对采购计划调整、库存水平、安装效率以及部署时点的变动高度敏感。
- 库存高企不仅反映了存储芯片的市场状况,也反映了受客户推迟订单影响的产成品积压。管理层预计2027年上半年库存将出现部分正常化,但不会完全恢复至此前水平。
- 传统产品营收持续下滑,需要依靠DOCSIS 4.0的增长来抵消这一压力。
- 2027年客户部署的时点仍存在不确定性,管理层表示目前给出具体的2027年业绩展望尚为时过早。
分析师问答环节亮点
管理层表示,目前存储芯片的供应状况尚在可控范围内,价格才是首要问题。Vistance Networks不打算通过提前过量囤积库存来进行投机;公司每年采购约150万至200万颗存储芯片,并根据客户需求调整采购节奏。
针对客户推迟订单的问题,管理层认为这属于时点问题,而非需求流失。部署进度、施工团队效率、天气状况以及客户的库存目标均可能对采购计划产生影响。公司预计部分推迟的业务将顺延至2027年,但并未提供该年度具体的EBITDA或自由现金流指引。
关于营运资金,管理层表示与推迟订单相关的库存应会在2027年上半年开始正常化。然而,受存储芯片相关压力的影响,库存预计仍将高于完全正常化后的水平。
特里德威表示,他的离职计划反映了公司在完成战略性剥离、偿还债务以及赎回优先股之后,规模更为精简、业务更加聚焦的架构。在董事会遴选下一任领导人期间,他将继续担任总裁兼首席执行官直至2月1日。
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Operator
[Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker, Ginny Thompson. Ma'am, please go ahead.
Jenny Thompson
Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Vistance Networks' 2026 third quarter results. I'm Ginny Thompson, Vice President of Investor Relations for Vistance Networks, and with me on today's call are Chuck Treadway, President and CEO, and Kyle Lorentzen, Executive Vice President and CFO. You can find the slides that accompany this report on our Investor Relations website.
Please note that some of our comments today will contain forward-looking statements based on the current view of our business, and actual future results may differ materially. Please see our recent SEC filings, which identify the risks and uncertainties that could affect future performance.
Before I turn the call over to Chuck, I have a few housekeeping items to review. Today we will discuss certain adjusted or non-GAAP financial measures which are described in more detail in this morning's earnings materials. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in our earnings materials and posted on our website. All references during today's discussion will be to our adjusted results. All quarterly growth rates described during today's presentation are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted.
I'll now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Chuck Treadway.
Charles Treadway
Thank you, Ginny, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our third quarter 2026 earnings call. Before we discuss our results, I'd like to briefly address the announcement made this morning. After 6 years as CEO of CommScope, I will be stepping down as President and CEO on February 1. When I joined CommScope, we had $9 billion of revenue, four large business segments, and 30,000 employees around the world. Today we are a much smaller and much more focused company. It has been a privilege to lead CommScope and Vistance Networks through such an important moment of transformation.
We set out to unlock value for our shareholders, and our team delivered. We completed a series of strategic divestitures, repaid all of our debt, and redeemed all of our preferred equity. I am proud of what this team has accomplished and believe now is the right time to initiate this succession plan to identify a leader for the company's next chapter. My focus is unchanged. I remain committed to executing our plan, serving our customers, and delivering on our commitments, and I will work closely with the Board to ensure a smooth transition.
Now turning to Slide 3, before discussing our third quarter results, I'd like to discuss our recent activity around our use of excess cash resulting from the Ruckus transaction. As indicated on our second quarter earnings call, we expected to have between $700 million and $750 million of cash at year-end. This cash balance reflected the payment of our special distribution of $5 per share in August. Subsequent to the end of last quarter and payment of the $5 per share special distribution, we have implemented two additional actions to utilize a significant portion of our excess cash. The first was our recently announced additional special distribution of $1.50 per share.
This distribution will result in a cash outlay of approximately $300 million and will be paid on November 6. This special distribution, along with the $10 per share distribution in April and the $5 per share special distribution in August, will result in total cash distributions to shareholders of $16.50 per share. As indicated, following the sale of our CCS business, a key objective was to return cash to shareholders, and we believe that $16.50 per share achieves that objective.
In addition to the special cash distributions, during the quarter, the company also announced the Board of Directors authorized a share repurchase of $250 million. I'm pleased to report that through October 30, we have utilized approximately $225 million of that program, resulting in 28.9 million shares repurchased. This is a reduction of approximately 13% of the outstanding shares at the end of the second quarter of 2026, including any shares vested as part of the Ruckus transaction. In addition to the $250 million previously authorized, the Board of Directors has authorized an additional $100 million buyback program, bringing the total authorization to $350 million.
We believe this is a balanced use of our excess cash. Including the November distribution and buybacks completed to date, we will have returned approximately $4 billion to shareholders in 2026. Before any repurchases under the new $100 million authorization, we expect to end the year with $275 million to $300 million of cash. This cash balance and strong balance sheet, along with expected cash generation in future years, positions the company for continued investment in the business and a hedge against future volatility.
Now on to the third quarter results on Slide 4. Vistance Networks delivered net sales of $320 million and adjusted EBITDA of $57 million. Revenue was down 5% year-over-year, and adjusted EBITDA was up 5%. Adjusted EBITDA was slightly higher than our expectations as a result of lower variable compensation in the quarter. Overall, it was a solid quarter as we continue to see DOCSIS 4.0 upgrades and the adoption of our next-generation intelligent amplifiers.
The business continues to be impacted by two major items: memory chips and timing of upgrades for our largest customers. On memory chips, the annual impact is approximately $40 million, of which a portion will roll out next year. We continue to deal with availability and pricing associated with memory chips. In the third quarter, we experienced another memory price increase. Despite the challenges, we continue to work with our suppliers and customers to improve availability and manage costs. In addition, we are also working on alternative designs to minimize the impact of memory supply and demand challenges.
We are also seeing some large customers managing inventory and adjusting the timing of their amplifier orders as they evaluate deployment schedules and inventory positions. Given our customer concentration, changes in purchasing patterns can have a significant impact on near-term results. As certain customers have pushed some spending into 2027, we have revised our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance to between $180 million and $200 million. We remain confident in the underlying demand for our products, although the timing of certain customer deployments remains uncertain.
The market for DOCSIS 4.0 products continues to expand as we deploy our suite of products, including intelligent amplifiers, nodes, and virtual CMTS. Our FDX deployment with Comcast continues to go well. Also, we continue to make headway with our suite of next-generation ESD amplifiers and are now shipping to multiple large North American MSOs. We expect ESD shipments to ramp up in 2027.
At the SCTE TechExpo last month, we showcased our entire suite of products and solutions that help customers upgrade their networks in the most agile ways possible. On display were DOCSIS 4.0 unified solutions, including the RPDs and intelligent amplifiers. Prior to the show, we jointly announced with Ziggo the first large-scale deployment of Unified DOCSIS 4.0 nodes in a live network.
The full solution combines Aurora's optical node platform, its unified DAA module configured for Remote PHY operation, vCCAP Evo Virtualized Core Platform, and ServAssure NXT Domain Manager. This architecture allows operators to deploy flexible network infrastructure that supports evolving DOCSIS standards while simplifying network upgrades. While Ziggo's deployment is based on DOCSIS 4.0 ESD, the unified module supports both ESD and FDX configurations, providing flexibility for different operator network architectures and future requirements.
For Ziggo, this architecture provides a flexible and scalable foundation to evolve its existing HFC network, supporting greater capacity, reliability, and future customer needs while making use of its existing infrastructure. ServAssure NXT Domain Manager enhances and simplifies management of both Remote PHY and virtual CCAP and introduces network automation capabilities. The deployment highlights Aurora Networks' leadership in next-generation broadband infrastructure and demonstrates the readiness of its DOCSIS 4.0 ecosystem for large-scale commercial operation.
In addition, we were awarded another vCCAP Evo win at O2. This deployment will modernize and upgrade their network to Remote PHY. It will roll out over the next 3 years. As stated before, we believe Aurora is well positioned with decades of knowledge of our customers' ecosystems and a broad array of new products for service providers to continue to take advantage of the latest DOCSIS 4.0 upgrade cycle, as well as expanding their current DOCSIS 3.1 networks. We feel our amplifier position, with millions of installed amplifiers requiring upgrades, is valuable as MSOs require upgrades to stay competitive. In addition, with each intelligent amplifier supporting an average of approximately 20 homes passed, we are well positioned to drive edge compute as our current intelligent amplifier has built-in AI machine learning capabilities.
With the Ruckus transaction complete, we're focused on executing in our core cable business and investing organically in select product lines. Our strategy takes advantage of our position in the HFC network and the need for MSOs to continue to upgrade their networks to stay competitive. While cable is under pressure, our customers have large installed bases that have significant value and will require upgrades well into the future. We believe our products are well positioned to be at the leading edge of current and existing upgrades. In particular, our intelligent amplifiers will be at the forefront of upgrade cycles as cable moves towards 25 gigabits. Our intelligent amplifier portfolio includes the only amplifier in the market with AI machine learning capabilities. In the current and future upgrade cycles, we believe amplifiers will be the largest part of the market, and we are the leader in amplifiers. Although we may see some cyclicality, we're confident in the long-term demand for our products.
In addition to continuing to support the required cable upgrades well into the future, we will continue to develop our PON portfolio of products, including Telco PON. Although it's a competitive market, we believe that our product range, including 50G PON and our technology partnerships, will allow us to win market share. We're also finalizing an investment strategy to take advantage of our industry-leading security solution products, specifically PKI. The PKI products provide end-to-end device security, digital certificate provisioning, and software licensing for IoT devices, smart networks, and digital video systems.
Our current PKI business has been internally focused as we have used PKI in our own products. It only represents approximately $10 million of our overall revenue in 2026. However, we have provisioned over 7 billion device credentials and have more than 40 years of security experience. Based on strategic work we have done, our PKI technology is very competitive, and we believe we can grow this business with focused go-to-market investments. Our estimate of addressable market for our products is approximately $700 million, growing at roughly 15% per year. We see this as an attractive opportunity to create long-term value.
We look forward to socializing more of our strategy over the next few quarters as our strategic plans are finalized. And with that, I'd like to turn things over to Kyle to talk more about our third quarter results.
Kyle Lorentzen
Thank you, Chuck, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with an overview of our third quarter results on Slide 5. For Vistance Networks' continuing operations, net sales ended at $320 million, down $18 million or 5% year-over-year, and adjusted EBITDA was up $32 million or 128% to $57 million. Adjusted EPS for the third quarter was up 283% to $0.23 per share versus $0.06 in the third quarter of 2025. It should be noted that the continuing operations presentation reflects the required U.S. GAAP treatment of shared costs. We believe our segment results provide a better insight into the underlying operating performance of the business.
Turning now to our third quarter segment highlights on Slide 6. Aurora Networks' third quarter net sales of $320 million were down 5% from the prior year as increased shipments of our DOCSIS 4.0 products were offset by a decline in our legacy product sales. Aurora Networks' adjusted EBITDA of $57 million was up $3 million, or 5% from the prior year, driven by considerably lower variable compensation in the current quarter, partially offset by lower legacy product revenues, memory chip pricing, and higher stranded costs.
Our stranded cost impact in 2026 is approximately $20 million. We expect the majority of stranded costs associated with the CCS and Ruckus divestitures to be eliminated by 2027, with all stranded costs eliminated by 2028. Aurora order rates were up 41% in the third quarter of 2026 versus prior year. Aurora backlog ended the third quarter at $410 million, up $11 million or 3% versus the end of the third quarter of 2025. Aurora remains well positioned to take advantage of upgrade cycles while offsetting declines in the legacy business. However, timing of upgrades may be cyclical, driven by large customer concentration and timing of their purchases.
Turning to Slide 7 for an update on cash flow. We ended the quarter with $683 million of cash on hand. As expected in the quarter, cash flow from operations was a use of $57 million and free cash flow was a use of $58 million due to working capital needs. Subsequently, after the end of the third quarter, the Board approved a special distribution of $1.50 per share, or approximately $300 million. The distribution will be paid on November 6 from cash on hand and is expected to be treated as a return of capital for tax purposes. With the latest $1.50 per share special distribution, in total, we will have provided special distributions of $16.50 per share in 2026.
Turning to Slide 8 for an update on our liquidity and capital structure. During the third quarter, our cash and liquidity remained strong. As indicated, we ended the quarter with $683 million in cash on hand. The Board of Directors approved an additional buyback of up to $150 million in August 2026 for a total of $250 million in authorized share repurchases. Through October 30, we purchased 28.9 million shares, totaling $225 million against our buyback authorization. The buybacks equated to approximately 13% of our outstanding shares at the end of the second quarter, including any shares vested as part of the Ruckus transaction.
It should be noted that since repurchases occurred ahead of special distributions, the net amount after adjustments for distributions is approximately $140 million, including all commissions and excise tax. In addition to the previously approved $250 million of buybacks, the Board of Directors has authorized an additional $100 million of buybacks. This brings our total authorized buybacks to $350 million.
The company ended the quarter with no outstanding debt. At the end of the third quarter, the current availability under our existing line of credit was $159 million. Based on our cash on hand, cash flow expectations, and leverage capability, we have ample opportunity to invest in growth and value creation and hedge against volatility. Based on our projections, after the $1.50 per share special distribution, we expect to end 2026 with cash on hand between $275 million and $300 million. This does not include any repurchases under the newly authorized $100 million buyback program.
As a result of making certain tax elections, we were able to accelerate $60 million of the previously announced $160 million tax refund into 2026. This $60 million is reflected in the cash estimate for the end of 2026. We still expect to receive the remaining $100 million in 2027. This provides us with a strong balance sheet, allowing for incremental investment and a hedge against volatility.
I will conclude my prepared remarks with commentary around our expectations for the remainder of 2026. We delivered solid execution in the first 3 quarters. However, memory pricing and availability continues to pressure the business. In addition, certain customers are adjusting the timing of amplifier orders as they manage inventory and deployment schedules. As a result, we are lowering our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance to $180 million to $200 million. We remain confident in the long-term demand for our products, although customer concentration and deployment timing may continue to drive variability in the near term.
We are very pleased with the return of $16.50 per share in 2026, as well as our buyback program. We feel this represents a proper balance of returning cash to our shareholders as well as investing in future value creation. We look forward to continuing to develop and implement the Vistance Networks strategy focused on taking advantage of continued long-term investment in HFC network, PON, and security solutions. And with that, I'll turn it back to Chuck.
Charles Treadway
Thank you, Kyle. In closing, I'm pleased with our progress this year. We've extinguished all of our long-term debt, redeemed our preferred equity, and returned approximately $4 billion in cash to our shareholders through our special distributions and stock buybacks. Although we are dealing with some short- and medium-term challenges with memory chips and volatility of large customer demand, we are well positioned to take advantage of the DOCSIS 4.0 build over the next several years.
Beyond DOCSIS 4.0, we believe that the cable infrastructure market will continue to require upgrades, and we are currently working with our key customers to develop new products, including next-generation intelligent amplifiers, PON, and PKI security solutions. With that, we'll now open the line up for questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question is going to come from the line of George Notter with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
分析师问答
George Notter
Chuck, it's been great working with you [ in the ] future going forward. Again, it's been great. All right, my question is on memory pricing. Obviously, there are some real pressures here. I guess I'm just curious about the outlook for 2027 memory pricing. What are you guys seeing? Do you have an ability to offset that memory cost incrementally with surcharges or price increases? What does that look like right now? Thanks a lot.
Charles Treadway
Yes, I would start out by saying I think we're going to see gradual price increases continuing for the next several quarters, but probably not at the same rate as it was—probably a little less, a little flatter, at least that's what we're believing. And in terms of passing costs through, we are working with our customers to push price through there. And obviously, as prices go higher, we're able to push more to them. So, we did call out that the impact would be about $40 million this year to us, with some rolling out next year.
George Notter
Got it. Okay. And then I assume availability is still okay for you guys in terms of memory, or is this just really a pricing impact?
Charles Treadway
I'd agree with that at this point.
George Notter
Okay, cool. And then the customer pushout, I assume this is one of your large customers. Is it related to CapEx pressures? Is it related to component supply? Is it budget-related or project timing? Any more you could tell us on that pushout would be great.
Charles Treadway
I would say it's really more dependent on their deployment schedules and how fast they install, in addition to levels of inventory that they want to hold. Right now, their installation schedules can be impacted by many things. Think about how fast they're installing, productivity of their crews, weather, such like that. I don't really see anything causing them not to do work. It's just how fast they can move. Obviously, we're going to listen to Charter's report tomorrow. We'll learn more from them. But I would say we're working with them on schedules and timing and how they're viewing what's going to be installed.
George Notter
Okay, thanks very much. Good luck.
Charles Treadway
Thank you.
Operator
And our next question will come from the line of Amit Daryanani with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Amit Daryanani
I guess just first off, on the memory pricing, how much are you guys able to buy ahead of some of these price increases? It seems like you guys have been talking about pricing continuing to rise for a couple of quarters here. I guess, you know, you've had some additional cash on hand, just thinking about why not buy a bit more now.
Charles Treadway
Well, we're obviously not going to be speculating on memory. We buy approximately 1.5 million to 2 million—I mean, 1.5 million to 2 million memory chips a year, which is big numbers. So we have to work very closely with the suppliers, very close to the suppliers of that. And we tie it to their demand, not necessarily looking at, hey, we don't want to be holding the bag if the prices go the other way. I would say that, yes.
Amit Daryanani
And Chuck, maybe just touch on, you know, why now are you stepping down, given that it seems like Aurora is now in a good spot to keep operating by itself?
Charles Treadway
Yes, look, I would say the business is just at a much smaller scale than what I took over in 2020. You know, we delivered on the commitments that we made to the Board. I've agreed with the Board that this is just the right time to identify a next leader. It's a more focused business, and I'm going to remain in this role until February 1 and committed to a smooth transition. Thank you, guys.
Operator
And our next question will come from the line of Joseph Cardoso with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Joseph Cardoso
This is Mark on for Joseph Cardoso. I guess with regards to the customer pushout commentary, it seems like that's mostly being described as a timing factor rather than a demand factor. So should we expect that that business comes back in '27? I guess, with regards to the '27 outlook itself, do you see that potentially improving EBITDA and free cash flow year-over-year as well?
Charles Treadway
Look, I'd say to your question and in your comment, I do believe the demand is real and it's going to stay, it's just pushed out. And in terms of what are we thinking for '27, I would say we see this as, first of all, because of our concentration of customers, there will be some cyclicality there, but we do believe that they're going to move forward with redoing and upgrading their networks. What we've seen so far is some delays related to inventory adjustments, but I would say that it's really too early to be specific for 2027.
Joseph Cardoso
Got it, got it. And then maybe just to follow up regarding the free cash flow outlook, as we think about the inventory build that you have going into '27, should we think about these elevated inventory levels maybe as the new normal given an uncertain cost environment, or do you also maybe expect some degree of normalization in '27 there?
Kyle Lorentzen
Yes, I think we're seeing really two impacts on inventory. One is the memory pricing, and Chuck talked about that. I don't think we feel like that's going away anytime soon, so I think we'll continue to see elevated levels. To be honest with you, the larger driver of the inventory is some of these timing issues, right? So we've built product that's now being pushed out. We would expect to see some normalization of that inventory in the first half of '27. So I don't think this is going back to a completely normalized level, but I think we will see some gain back in inventory in the first half of '27, just based on some inventory that we're holding related to some of these pushouts.
Joseph Cardoso
Got it. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you, and I would now like to hand the conference back over to Chuck Treadway for closing remarks.
Charles Treadway
Thank you for your time today, and I appreciate your interest in our company. Have a great rest of your week. Thank you.
Operator
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.
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