ADTRAN (ADTN) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会议：光业务增长、供应受限及第四季度业绩指引

ADTRAN Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADTN) 公布2026年第三季度营收为2.812亿美元，同比增长约1%，环比持平。光网络业务的增长以及超大规模客户需求的改善，被零部件短缺、较高供应成本和订户解决方案营收弱势所抵消。

核心要点

• 2026年第三季度营收为2.812亿美元，略低于管理层指引区间的中点。管理层表示，供应链限制导致价值“数千万美元”的增量产品无法发货。
• 受美国市场强劲表现的支撑，光网络解决方案营收同比增长11%，环比增长4%，达到1.145亿美元。
• Non-GAAP毛利率环比上升至42.1%，其中包括关税退税带来的约200个基点的提振。管理层将80%至90%的基础毛利率压力归因于较高的供应成本。
• Non-GAAP营业利润率从2026年第二季度的3.8%提升至5.0%，同时Non-GAAP摊薄后每股收益从0.04美元增至0.09美元。
• 来自超大规模客户的营收同比增长超过200%，环比增长约20%，占季度总营收的比例略高于10%。
• 对于2026年第四季度，管理层预计营收为2.72亿美元至2.92亿美元，Non-GAAP营业利润率为1%至5%。

关键财务数据

业务与运营表现

光网络解决方案仍是ADTRAN的主要增长引擎。该业务营收达1.145亿美元，占总营收的41%。增长主要由美国市场、服务提供商的网络扩容以及持续扩张的云需求驱动。

接入与汇聚解决方案实现营收7850万美元，占总营收的28%。销售额同比增长5%，但环比下降10%。管理层将部分疲软归因于一家欧洲主要客户的项目进度安排，并预计该客户的订单将在2027年第一季度恢复正常。

订户解决方案营收为8810万美元，占总营收的31%。该业务同比下降13%，但在运营商以太网的推动下环比增长4%。

来自超大规模客户的营收同比增长超过200%，环比增长约20%。ADTRAN目前主要通过数据中心互联（DCI）产品服务该市场。管理层还表示，随着运营商升级网络以应对更高的数据中心流量，运营商需求也随之受益。

Lightwave 800按计划将于2027年上半年开展客户测试，预计在下半年扩大生产规模。管理层提醒称，显著的供货能力更有可能在2027年年底实现。MicroMux Quattro计划于2027年上半年发布，早期样品已在测试中。

企业业务营收继续保持两位数的同比增长。管理层提到，企业及关键基础设施客户对更高速度、高韧性和抗量子安全网络的需求旺盛。

在欧洲，ADTRAN将高风险供应商替代视为一项多年期机遇。管理层引用一项独立研究估计，相关高风险供应商在2025年创造了约8.5亿美元的年营收，并表示如果拟议的欧盟框架获得批准，最终可能需要替换价值约100亿美元的已安装设备。

管理层业绩指引

对于2026年第四季度，ADTRAN预计：

• 营收为2.72亿美元至2.92亿美元。
• Non-GAAP营业利润率为1%至5%。

该展望反映了历史季节性因素、供应可用性以及大型客户项目的排期情况。管理层预计第四季度回款将有所增加，营运资金将趋于更加正常的水平。

展望2027年，管理层预计BEAD（宽带平等、接入和部署）计划的贡献将多于2026年，并将其描述为一项多年期计划。公司还预计，随着一家主要客户恢复采购，上半年接入与汇聚业务的活动将更加强劲。这些表述属于方向性判断，而非正式的全年指引。

ADTRAN继续以10%的长期Non-GAAP营业利润率为目标。其规划的举措包括产品提价、重新设计、优化销售组合以及严格控制营业费用。近期的一次提价已覆盖约70%的客户，其余提价预计将于2027年年初生效。

风险与关注要点

零部件供应依然是近期面临的主要瓶颈。管理层指出，受影响的零部件包括光发射激光器、泵浦激光器、半导体和存储器，同时印刷电路板（PCB）的交货周期也开始拉长。

零部件成本上升继续对毛利率构成压力。扣除关税退税收益后，基础盈利能力仍受制于供应端通胀和产品组合。管理层表示，未来的毛利率改善部分取决于公司自身无法控制的零部件成本。

由于应收账款和存货增加，营运资金有所上升。应收账款周转天数（DSO）增至77天，而负自由现金流达到3940万美元。

大型客户项目的推进时间仍存在不确定性。尽管预计一家欧洲大型客户将在2027年第一季度恢复正常下单，但项目排期已经影响到了接入与汇聚业务的营收。

欧洲高风险供应商替代法案可能成为重要催化剂，但管理层强调时间点仍不确定，因为批准过程需要经过欧盟多国程序。电话会议上讨论的当前预期是在2027年上半年可能完成。

分析师问答环节亮点

管理层估计，供应链短缺导致ADTRAN在第三季度无法发货价值数千万美元的产品。公司预计供应链限制仍将是其2027年最大的潜在逆风，目前正在更提前地下达采购订单，同时为新产品争取产能保证。

关于毛利率，管理层表示，当前80%至90%的压力来自于供应成本而非业务组合。光网络和客户终端设备（CPE）的产品重新设计预计将于2027年年初开始发挥积极贡献，同时还将配合更广范围的提价举措。

管理层表示，欧洲的招标（RFP）活动依然活跃，包括近期提交的一项涉及在四年内进行全网替换的投标。在拟议的欧盟网络安全框架下，运营商通常将立即停止采购指定的风险设备，并在一段时间内逐步替换现网设备，目前预计将在2035年左右完成全面拆除。

在数据中心产品方面，管理层表示大型数据中心业主对Lightwave 800表现出强烈的兴趣。对MicroMux Quattro的兴趣则更加广泛，涵盖运营商、超大规模客户、新型云提供商（neocloud provider）以及网络批发客户。

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管理层陈述

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the ADTRAN Holdings, Inc. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Release Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]

During the course of the conference call, ADTRAN representatives expect to make forward-looking statements that reflect management's best judgment based on factors currently known. However, these statements involve risks and uncertainties, including the successful development and market acceptance of our products; the ability of our third-party suppliers to supply components and products, our ability to convert our backlog into revenue, our ability to maintain current expected delivery schedules, competitive pricing and acceptance of our products intellectual property matters, the effect of economic conditions, the impact of tariffs and trade policy and other risk factors described in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and in our quarterly filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

ADTRAN Holdings assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. During today's call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP measures and certain additional information are also included in our investor presentation and our earnings release. ADTRAN Holdings has not provided reconciliations of its second quarter 2026 outlook with regard to non-GAAP operating margins because it cannot predict and quantify without unreasonable effort all the adjustments that may occur during the period. The investor presentation has been updated and is available for download on the ADTRAN Investor Relations website.

Hosting today's call is Tom Stanton, ADTRAN Holdings' Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board; and Timothy Santo, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Tom Stanton, Chief Executive Officer of ADTRAN Holdings. Sir, please go ahead.

Thomas Stanton

Thank you, Kara. Good morning, everyone. ADTRAN delivered third quarter results slightly below the midpoint of our guidance range while navigating a challenging supply environment. Importantly, the underlying trends of our business remain encouraging. We continue to see strength in optical, growing momentum with hyperscalers and progress in Europe. Together, these growth drivers are expanding our reach across service provider, cloud providers and enterprise markets, helping us build a broader and more diversified customer base. Optical remained a primary growth engine with revenue increasing 11% year-over-year and 4% sequentially, supported by particularly strong performance in the U.S. These results are consistent with our expectations entering the year for growth to build throughout 2026.

In Access & Aggregation, revenue grew 5% year-over-year, led by strength in Europe despite a slowdown with one of our largest customers due to adjustments in timing of ongoing projects as we have previously discussed. We are pleased with where we are with that customer and still expect orders to return to normalized levels in Q1 of next year. In Subscriber Solutions, revenue increased 4% sequentially, led by carrier Ethernet. Demand remains strong as operators continue to expand fiber connectivity to homes, businesses and critical infrastructure sites and as expectations for speed and reliability keep rising. Taken together, these results reflect a demand environment that remains solid across our core markets, even as supply availability continues to influence timing.

At the same time, AI is reshaping network requirements, driving the need for faster, more secure and more reliable connectivity. Our strategy remains focused on 3 key areas: helping service providers build high-speed fiber networks with AI-driven automation, growing our business with cloud providers as they build out AI infrastructure and expanding our position in enterprise and critical infrastructure. Each represents an important growth opportunity for ADTRAN. I'll start with service providers.

AI is driving growing bandwidth demand as operators connect cloud and AI infrastructure and carry increasing network traffic, leading them to expand network capacity and translating into stronger demand for our optical solutions. That AI build-out is led by hyperscalers, and it's easy to understand why some are increasingly their focus and resources there. We are participating in that growth as well, and as you'll hear in a moment, but hyperscaler networks don't exist in isolation. The growth in and between data centers ultimately extends into the carrier networks that connect them to enterprises, homes and each other. And that growth can't reach its full potential unless those networks are upgraded to carry it. So while we are growing with cloud providers, we are deliberately staying focused on the service providers that connect them, where our deep customer relationships and differentiated technology give us a strong position. And as some competitors turn their attention elsewhere, we intend to capture the opportunity that they create.

Higher bandwidth alone, however, is not enough. Networks also need to be secure, resilient and trusted. This is continuing to increase pressure on high-risk vendor replacement, which remains a key growth driver for the company. Although operators across Europe are already moving away from high-risk vendors, particularly in new deployments, the proposed EU Cybersecurity Act 2, which would establish a stronger framework for securing Europe's technology supply chains and would accelerate the replacement of high-risk equipment already in networks. Our success in Europe demonstrates the strength of our position, and we believe we can benefit as these replacement programs expand.

We are also seeing continued investment in access network upgrades to support multi-gigabit services as connected homes require greater speed, reliability and security. As AI applications move into homes and businesses, the access network increasingly determines the user's experience. Across the U.S. and Europe, demand for higher-speed broadband continues to drive investment in higher capacity access networks and CPE, supported in part by broadband programs such as BEAD. AI is also reshaping how these networks are operated. We introduced AI-driven automation with Mosaic One Clarity and have since augmented those capabilities with Mosaic One Fabric and an expanded suite of Mosaic One agents.

These agents are designed to automate routine traffic management tasks and proactively identify and resolve issues. Fabric also gives operators the unique ability to build and deploy their own agents, providing greater autonomy and helping them automate across complex multi-vendor network environments. The response from operators of all sizes has been extremely positive, and we believe Mosaic One Fabric positions operators to lead this transition.

Turning to our second growth area, cloud and AI infrastructure. Here, our opportunity goes beyond connecting AI infrastructure with carriers. We are positioning ADTRAN to participate directly in its build-out with solutions at 3 critical points in the cloud network architecture. Data center interconnect is where we have long served cloud providers, and we are starting to see the benefits of our investments in this area. Revenue from hyperscaler customers grew more than 200% year-over-year. Inside the data center, AI is creating unprecedented bandwidth demand as increasingly large custom clusters of GPUs must be connected to support AI workloads. Building on our innovation in low-power, high-performance optics, we are extending our technology to address this growing opportunity.

Our Lightwave 800 development remains on track with customer trials expected to begin in the first half of next year and production scaling in the second. Customer engagement remains very positive. At the cloud handoff, where cloud providers connect to service providers or other cloud providers, our MicroMux Quattro solution is scheduled for release in the first half of 2027. It is generating significant interest from hyperscalers, content providers and wholesale network providers.

Moving to enterprise and critical infrastructure. This remains a higher growth area for us. Enterprise continues to deliver double-digit year-over-year growth, and we see good momentum as customers invest in higher-speed networks with a growing focus on security and resiliency. We believe we have one of the most competitive portfolios in the market with advanced quantum-safe networking capabilities embedded into our optical and Ethernet solutions. We see this level of security increasingly becoming a fundamental requirement for networks supporting the AI-driven economy.

Shifting to product cost and pricing. We continue to operate in a dynamic environment. Reported gross margins benefited from IEPA tariff refunds this quarter. On a more normalized basis, higher component costs, combined with product and customer mix continued to pressure margins. We continue to work actively with suppliers, implement product redesigns and pursue pricing adjustments to help offset these pressures. Looking ahead, we continue to see strength in optical across both service provider and cloud markets, solid growth in enterprise and additional opportunities in broadband as high-risk vendor replacement programs gain momentum. We remain focused on addressing gross margin pressures, maintaining disciplined expense management and achieving our long-term target of 10% non-GAAP operating margin.

To close, this was a quarter of continued progress across several of our strategic objectives. Our priorities are unchanged, maintaining tight expense control, generating cash and converting our strong pipeline into revenue. With that, I'll turn the call over to Tim to review our financial results in greater detail. Tim?

Timothy Santo

Thank you, Tom, and thank you for all joining us today. Revenue for the quarter was $281.2 million, up approximately 1% from the prior year and in line with the prior quarter. Geographically, U.S. revenue was $128 million, representing approximately 46% of total revenue, up 6% year-over-year. Non-U.S. revenue was $153.2 million, representing approximately 54% of total revenue and down 4% year-over-year. By product category, Optical Networking Solutions revenue was $114.5 million or 41% of total revenue, increasing 11% year-over-year and 4% sequentially. Access and Aggregation Solutions revenue was $78.5 million or approximately 28% of total revenue, up 5% year-over-year, but down 10% sequentially. Subscriber Solutions revenue was $88.1 million or 31% of total revenue, down 13% year-over-year and up 4% sequentially.

Turning to margins. Non-GAAP gross margin was 42.1%, a sequential increase from 40.7% in the second quarter of 2026. Gross margin benefited approximately 200 basis points from IEFA tariff refunds received during the quarter. Non-GAAP operating expenses were $104.2 million compared to $103.9 million in the second quarter of 2026 and $102.4 million in the third quarter of 2025. We continue to take proactive measures to maintain cost discipline and offset inflationary pressures. Non-GAAP operating income was $14.1 million, resulting in a non-GAAP operating margin of 5%. This is compared to $15.1 million and 5.4% on a year-over-year basis and $10.6 million and 3.8% on a sequential basis.

Non-GAAP tax expense during the quarter was $3.8 million, reflecting an effective non-GAAP tax rate of 31.4%. Non-GAAP net income attributable to ADTRAN Holdings was $7.1 million or $0.09 per diluted share compared to $0.05 in the third quarter of 2025 and $0.04 in the prior quarter. Turning now to the balance sheet and cash flow. Working capital increased during the quarter, resulting from higher accounts receivable and inventory, partially offset by increased accounts payable. DSO increased to 77 days, reflecting higher billings and the timing of collections. Inventory increased to $227.4 million and accounts payable increased to $179 million, reflecting purchasing activity in the current supply environment. Operating cash flow was negative $24.5 million during the quarter, resulting from negative free cash flow of $39.4 million.

During the quarter, we repurchased approximately $18 million of ADTRAN Networks SE shares, further reducing the minority ownership and increasing ADTRAN Holdings ownership to 73.4%. We ended the quarter with $71.7 million of cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash compared to $79.2 million at June 30, 2026. We expect collections to increase and working capital levels to return to a more normalized level in the fourth quarter.

Turning to the fourth quarter outlook. We expect revenue to be between $272 million and $292 million and non-GAAP operating margin to be between 1% and 5%, overcoming historical seasonality, availability of supply and timing of large customer projects. I'd like to note that we'll be participating in the Craig-Hallum Alpha Select Conference in New York on November 17 and plan to attend the 29th Annual Needham Growth Conference in January. We hope to see many of you there. And with that, I will turn the call back to Tom.

Thomas Stanton

All right. Thanks very much, Tim. Kara, I'd like to go ahead and open up to any questions people may have. .

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Irvin Liu from Evercore ISI.

分析师问答

Jyhhaw Liu

I have one and a follow-up. First, Tom, are you able to quantify the revenue impact, if any, related to the current supply environment for Q3? Just in other words, has the availability of supply impacted your ability to ship product? Or has supply been mostly a cost headwind so far?

Thomas Stanton

No, it definitely impacted our ability to ship product. It did -- last couple of quarters, it has, and we continue to see it be something that we're having to manage around. But I would say there was tens of millions of dollars we could have shipped if we had more supply.

Jyhhaw Liu

And then for my follow-up, I understand you typically guide one quarter at a time. But to the extent that you can, are you able to provide any sort of preliminary thoughts into 2027? Should we still expect high-risk vendor replacement to be a tailwind? And does the BEAD program become more meaningful? And just how are you thinking about supply and perhaps contribution from the Lightwave 800 or MicroMux Quattro?

Thomas Stanton

Sure. That's a bunch of questions. So let me start with just kind of BEAD will be stronger next year than this year. That's -- we're just kind of getting started, and we expect that to be kind of a multiyear program. The vendor replacement in Europe is just an ongoing continual thing. I think there's a general belief -- and when I say that, that's not just ADTRAN speaking, there's a general belief that activity around vendor replacement will pick up. And that's because of the legislation, CSA2 that's being right now negotiated in Europe, and we -- current thoughts are that, that will be finalized probably early next year. That itself kind of puts some specific laws in place that continue to drive positive pressure towards getting that vendor replacement done.

As far as lightweight, I mentioned it in my comments, we expect to be able to ship it. It will be towards the tail end of next year where we expect really meaningful supply availability, and we will be trialing that in the first half. Quattro is about 6 months ahead of that, so we should be in production right around the turn of the year. So those should be positive -- they will be because they're all incremental positive contributors to us. I see right now the environment we're in which is very much a supply-constrained environment continuing on. So I think our biggest hurdles for next year, our biggest headwind for next year is just going to be continuing to get enough supply.

Operator

Your next call comes from the line of Ryan Koontz with Needham.

Unknown Analyst

This is Jeff Hopson on for Ryan. Just trying to understand, is there any specific component that's hard to get a hold of? And has that been changing over the past couple of quarters? Or it's the same of component?

Thomas Stanton

I'd say generally the same ones that were very problematic coming into the year or last quarter continue to be problematic, and that's typically optics lasers, pump lasers, just many pieces of our optics solution. There are some semiconductor shortages or tightness. And of course, we're seeing price inflation in semiconductor as well. Memory continues to be a problem. I had mentioned, I believe, on the last call that although that's been problematic, at least it seems stable and that you can get supply. And I would still say that, that's true. I would say the only change from, let's say, now versus 6 months ago is those components are difficult. But at the same time, you're seeing a new base of components that are just lead times are extending. PC boards is a good example of that, where we've traditionally never seen PC boards even in the downturn, the supply crisis, we didn't see this kind of tightness in PC boards. So us being able to forecast better and continue to reach out with POs farther into the cycle is becoming more important.

Unknown Analyst

And maybe just on the -- in Europe, any update on just general RFP activity that you expect to translate to ADTRAN revenue over the next 6 to 12 months?

Thomas Stanton

Yes. We've got ongoing. In fact, we just had one submitted yesterday a fairly good size. So yes, I mean, this each -- there are multiple components that have to be replaced or that have to be first resourced and then replaced. And there are actually, if I think about just the one yesterday, that was a full out replacement over 4 years. So that activity is just ongoing.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Genovese with Rosenblatt Securities.

Amoljit Dhaliwal

This is Amoljit Dhaliwal on for Mike Genovese. So touching on what you said earlier, excluding the 200 basis point benefit from refunds, the gross margin was roughly about 40%. I was wondering if you could double-click on that number and share how much of the pressure was component cost versus change in product mix? And once the supply conditions begin to normalize, how much of the pressure is temporary headwinds versus structural or mix based?

Thomas Stanton

Yes, good question. I think without a doubt, the overarching thing is supply cost and increases in our supply cost. We did get hurt some by mix. As some of you know, we've gotten some of our European businesses doesn't kick back on into Q1. There's a particular mix associated with that. But I'm going to tell you, just generally speaking, I mean, it's 80%, 90% supply cost. We wouldn't be having this discussion if we didn't have the acceleration in supply cost.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Christian Schwab with Craig-Hallum.

Christian Schwab

Tom, I just would like an explanation of the -- with some of clarity, if you can provide it on attaining eventually your 10% non-GAAP operating margin target. It sounds like maybe that's passing on supply cost or mix or -- et cetera. I'm just wondering if you can elaborate on we haven't operated at that in quite some time. Just the steps that we can take that are under your control to get there, I guess, is what I'm asking.

Thomas Stanton

Yes, good. A fair question. So I -- the thing that's hurting us now that's kind of out of what our plan was is the impact on gross margins. We are stepping through price increases, and we have new redesigns that are coming online. In fact, we have some of them that will be coming online early next year, both in the optics space and in the CPE space. Those will help. The question is what does the supply chain do between now and then? And are we able to continue to actually make up ground or just continue in the position that we're in today. We are also passing on price increases. We have a price increase that has been put in effect just a recent increase that covers about 70% of our customers. And the rest of them will be coming online in early next year.

So we're continuing to make those movements. And the real answer to your question is it's very difficult to forecast that gross margin. We do think mix shift will be better next year. We think that our optical sales and access will benefit from increased sales next year, which is typically positive to gross margins. But yes, that's really the question. I mean our levers are 2. We have operating expense to the extent that we control that and then we have gross margins. And gross margins, we continue to do the pieces we can do on our side, but there's a piece that is out of our control, which is the supply chain cost itself or the component cost itself. I'm not really ready to forecast next year, but we have 2 pieces that are within our control.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dave Kang with B. Riley.

Dave Kang

First question is on the hyperscaler segment. It was up 20% year-over-year. Just wondering how it performed sequentially? And what is that in terms of percentage of revenue?

Thomas Stanton

I don't think we actually break that out as a percentage of revenue. I think last quarter, Tim, can you help me here last quarter it was up. I think it was up about 100% year-over-year last quarter. You keep growing 100% and 200%, it's going to be meaningful no matter what. Yes, we can take that offline then Tim will answer it.

Dave Kang

Just on the MicroMux and LPO activities, just wondering how those trials are progressing? And have you added any new customers trialing your products, data center products?

Thomas Stanton

Yes. We have some OEMs as well as some hyperscalers themselves. Some of them have pushed OEMs to come our way for both of those products. The Quattro right now, we have some units that are kind of very early units that are out in testing and the lightweight not yet. So I would expect that though early in Q1.

Timothy Santo

Hyperscaler quarter-over-quarter was about 20%.

Dave Kang

Up 20%. Got it. So it's -- I think last quarter, you said it was about 10% of revenue. So it should be a little bit higher than 10% for third quarter. It sounds like.

Timothy Santo

That's right. Yes.

Dave Kang

And my last question is on the Access segment. Just can you talk about seasonality? I mean, should we -- for next year, should we expect a typical first half stronger than second half? Is that how we should think about seasonality?

Thomas Stanton

Yes, I'm going to have to take a little bit out of our norm. So first of all, seasonality in the fourth quarter is access is typically down, then it typically comes back up in first quarter. It is -- there is -- we have a couple of customers that drive that number pretty significantly. Being as one of those customers is really not buying a lot in access and ag through the end of this year, we would expect the first half of next year to be fairly strong. It's too early for me to talk about the second half of next year.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of George Notter with Wolfe Research.

George Notter

I just have one question about securing supply. So it sounded like on the lightly product, you'd start to ramp really second half next year. Are you securing supply for that today? Because I know some lead times on some products or components can be a year plus. I was just wondering how you're navigating the environment from that perspective.

Thomas Stanton

Yes. We're securing supply commitments. So we're trying to secure capacity. But -- and to be very honest here, it's the tail end of next year. So it's not -- don't expect a whole lot of shipments in Q3 for Lightwave, but we are securing commitments for capacity.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital Management.

William Dezellem

Let me start if I may with the high-risk vendor. Would you please discuss in more detail the legislation that's taking place in Europe and the timing of that legislation coming to fruition and the implications of it, not only in terms of the replacement that would need to be done, but the time frame at which it would need to be accomplished by?

Thomas Stanton

Yes. So the legislation does a few things. First of all, it's been in the works now for well over a year. So hopefully, we're coming to the end of the process. There is some proposed language that you can find. I think if you do a search on the Internet right now, you can see some of the proposed language that's currently contemplated. There are a few things that are still yet undetermined that aren't agreed upon. But in general, the concept is you stop buying and then you have a period of time by which you have to remove and replace all of the offending vendor equipment in your network. The legislation itself and getting that put into law, I think, of course, is a positive catalyst just for ongoing business. The dates associated with full replacement, like I said, aren't decided yet. But right now, I think it's generally contemplated to be around 2035 to actually have all the equipment ripped out. But no new equipment, it would be effectively right away.

William Dezellem

And given the pace of legislation can move, even though it's a year into the process, is the implication that there may be another year or more? Or do you see momentum behind this? And apologies if I haven't close of attention to just how this is picking up or not.

Thomas Stanton

Yes. No problem. I would tell you all of our investors that this is important legislation for ADTRAN. I mean we are the biggest beneficiary of this legislation being approved. You're right about the -- it being a -- it is an EU rule, right? So it's not just one country. So there are multiple countries that have a vote. The current thought is, and I would say that that's kind of the way that the participants are viewing it is that it will be done early next year. But having said that, this is multi-government legislation. So it's not -- it's something you wouldn't want to bet on. That's kind of -- but that is literally the current time frame is actually first half of next year.

William Dezellem

And taking this one step further, the stop buying the high-risk vendors, how much revenue do the high-risk vendors currently earn each year? And really the spirit of that question is trying to understand the magnitude that we're talking about here at this point in, I guess, in 2026 and '27.

Thomas Stanton

Yes. So we actually commissioned an independent study to actually look at that. And I think it was -- yes, in 2025, that number was somewhere in the mid-$800 million directly related to our equipment on an annual basis. And I don't think that, that's -- I would still have to think we're in the same ballpark at this point. And the bigger piece, of course, is if they do get this legislation or when they do get this legislation approved, there's a solid $10 billion worth of equipment that's got to be replaced.

William Dezellem

And then given that we're only 35 minutes into the call, I am going to ask you to dive into more detail, if you would, on the data center activity in terms of what you all are doing today and then the magnitude of the opportunity that your new products could lead to if they are as successful as you think they will be?

Thomas Stanton

Yes. So what we're doing today is mainly data center interconnect, right? So it's actually connecting data centers to data centers. So I guess that would be interconnect. And that's using our ongoing optical products. I will say that it's being -- it's also impacting our carrier sales. So we're seeing some really good activity here in the U.S. and in some portions of Europe, where you have carriers that are really trying to make sure that they upgrade their network to be able to meet data center traffic requirements and one of them here in the U.S. is very vocal. And our business is definitely picking up because of that. But we also are in data center upgrades where the hyperscalers themselves are upgrading, and we have one customer that, of course, is materially larger than the rest.

That's ongoing. We expect that actually -- that business to continue to grow meaningfully. The new intersection point for us is these 2 chips. The LPO is huge. We have strong interest in that product. And I'm trying not to overhang myself here, but we have strong interest in that product. And that product is not singular. We have different versions of that product that will be coming out over the next probably 3 years or so. But we've got very good interest on our very first. So it's anything that has to do with hyperscalers typically -- it's typically tens to hundred millions of dollars. So it's -- it would be very beneficial for the company when we're successful there.

William Dezellem

And one additional question, and I do promise I'll step away. The interest that you said is very strong. Is that coming from 1 or 2 potential customers? Or is it much more broad-based than that?

Thomas Stanton

On the lightweight, it is really large data center owners. So there's a finite number of them. On the Quattro, it is pretty much across the board. It's carriers, it is hyperscalers, it's neoscalers, it's MOPHY-type customers. So it's across the board. It's a much broader product. It's a much broader customer set.

Operator

I think we are -- I see the question queue is empty at this point. So thank you very much for everybody joining us, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter.