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安特吉 (ETR) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会议:业绩指引下限上调

2026年11月2日 20:02
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昂特吉公布2026年第三季度调整后每股收益为1.98美元,并上调全年指引下限。公司将2027–2030年资本计划新增约15亿美元,涵盖谷歌西孟菲斯园区扩建及电池储能项目。管理层预计强劲的销售将支撑超过8%的盈利增长轨迹,且2027–2030年业绩将处于展望区间上半段。穆迪FFO与债务比率指标在整个展望期内预计保持在15%或更高水平。

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核心要点

  • 昂特吉公布2026年第三季度调整后每股收益为 1.98美元,主要得益于炎热天气以及经天气调整后的居民和工业用电销售额增长。
  • 该公司收窄了2026年调整后每股收益指引区间,将下限上调了0.10美元。管理层表示,更强劲的零售销售也为其在可靠性和电网韧性方面的额外支出提供了资金支持。
  • 昂特吉为其2027–2030年资本计划新增了约15亿美元,其中包括用于与谷歌西孟菲斯园区扩建相关的电池储能项目的6亿美元。
  • 管理层继续预计强劲的销售将支撑超过8%的盈利增长轨迹,并预计2027–2030年展望期间的业绩将处于其展望区间的上半段。
  • 昂特吉的项目储备包括来自数据中心潜在需求的7–12吉瓦,以及来自传统工业客户的3–5吉瓦,这些需求可能在24个月内转化为正式签署的协议。
  • 该公司预计穆迪的FFO与债务比率指标在整个展望期内将保持在15%或更高水平。

关键财务数据

指标2026年第三季度 / 展望点评
调整后每股收益1.98美元受炎热天气以及居民和工业销售增长推动
2026年调整后每股收益指引下限上调 0.10美元指引区间收窄;业绩电话会议上未说明具体区间
2027–2030年资本计划增幅约15亿美元包括谷歌相关电池储能、输电投资及年度规划更新
谷歌扩建投资6亿美元主要为两个电池储能系统
已结算股权远期合约超过9亿美元于9月结算
已发行次级债券15亿美元获得50%的权益性质认定
昂特吉路易斯安那公司发行的债券10亿美元主要用于为业务增长融资;平均利率低于6%
2025年生产税收抵免收益2.56亿美元资金于10月到账
穆迪FFO与债务比率展望15%或更高预计在展望期的每年均能实现

业务与运营业绩

昂特吉表示,居民和工业部门的经天气调整后销售额均有所增长。工业增长反映了数据中心和原金属客户如预期的负荷爬升。系统最高同时负荷在8月份超过了24,000兆瓦时,比历史最高纪录增长了2%。昂特吉密西西比公司的峰值增长了11%,主要归因于数据中心负荷增加。

昂特吉阿肯色公司修改了与谷歌的服务协议,以支持西孟菲斯园区的扩建。该公司表示,该协议要求谷歌承担新投资及其分摊的系统成本。昂特吉预计,本次扩建将使预期的客户电费节省增加至少5亿美元,使其各公用事业公司的预估Fair Share Plus计划节省总额达到至少75亿美元。

昂特吉阿肯色公司已就谷歌合同、6亿美元的电池储能投资以及Big Island Solar清洁属性的购电协议申请批准。在预计于2027年上半年获得监管委员会批准的前提下,该扩建项目预计将于2028年开始负荷爬升。

位于得克萨斯州的1,200兆瓦奥兰治县先进发电厂已竣工投运。昂特吉目前在其项目储备中有23吉瓦(即31座天然气发电厂)。其中10座电厂处于不同的建设阶段,9座正在路易斯安那州接受监管审查,4座已纳入后期供应计划。管理层表示,仍有8台机组可用于新的增长机遇。

昂特吉还拥有超过1,000英里的规划输电线路,主要位于路易斯安那州和得克萨斯州,其中约85%为500千伏线路。相关投资中约70%已获得批准,而规划里程中约三分之一正在建设中。

管理层指引

管理层将昂特吉2026年调整后每股收益指引区间的下限上调了0.10美元,同时保持其长期展望不变。该公司继续预计强劲的销售将支撑超过8%的增长轨迹,并现预计2027–2030年的业绩将处于其展望区间的上半段。

该公司在2027–2030年的股权融资需求目前低于其占总资本支出10%–15%的目标区间。该需求中已有超过40%通过签约锁定,期限延伸至2028年。管理层表示,目前约9%–9.5%的水平反映了时间节点因素,并重申10%–15%仍是整个资本计划的目标。

7–12吉瓦的数据中心储备项目和3–5吉瓦的传统工业储备项目中的潜在项目可能会在当前展望期内开始产生贡献。然而,管理层表示,支持这些机遇的全部发电资产通常要在2030年之后才能上线运行。

风险与关注点

谷歌在阿肯色州的扩建仍需获得监管批准。昂特吉还在其当前资本计划中排除了与一项待审的昂特吉路易斯安那州法律程序相关的约14亿美元输电投资。

大型客户要求的新增清洁发电投资尚未列入计划。其时间和规模将取决于通过招标(RFP)或自建流程进行的项目遴选。

管理层提及了全行业范围内的材料和劳动力成本压力。管理层表示,标准化设计、批量采购、无人机和施工技术正在帮助缓解这些压力,但并未表明该风险已被完全消除。

如往复式发动机等更快的发电方案成本较高。因此,在相关替代方案能够更快提供容量或更具性价比的情况下,昂特吉正优先考虑电池储能、现有核电站和天然气电站的增容以及光伏项目。

分析师问答亮点

  • 资本计划上行空间:新增的15亿美元不包括待审的14亿美元路易斯安那州输电投资机会,也不包括潜在的新增清洁发电项目。
  • 可再生能源投资时机:支持Meta Vista开发项目的光伏项目可能会在当前预测期的末期进入资本计划,并延续到2030年之后。
  • 工业需求:管理层表示,分析师讨论的较低同比工业增长率反映的是对比时间节点差异,而非基础业务活动的变化。公司维持此前讨论的2026年至2030年16%的工业销售额增长率。
  • 替代融资:昂特吉已完成其第二个定制租赁项目,涵盖昂特吉路易斯安那公司的Waterford 6电厂。公司还在评估私募信贷和其他工具,以扩大投资能力,主要面向2030年之后的项目。
  • 电网韧性支出:管理层预计最终将进入第二阶段韧性建设,但表示第一阶段最早也要延续到当前展望期结束前夕。

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管理层陈述

Operator

Good morning. My name is Jay, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Entergy's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Liz Hunter, Vice President of Investor Relations for Entergy Corporation. Please go ahead.

Liz Hunter

Good morning. Thank you, Jay, and thanks to everyone for joining this morning. We will begin today with comments from Entergy's Chair and CEO Drew Marsh; and then Kimberly Fontan our CFO, and will review results. In today's call, management will make certain forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to a number of factors, which are set forth in our earnings release, our slide presentation and our SEC filings. .

Entergy does not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Management will also discuss non-GAAP financial information. Reconciliations to the applicable GAAP measures are included in today's press release and slide presentation, both of which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website. And now I will turn the call over to Drew.

Andrew Marsh

Thank you, Liz, and good morning, everyone. Today, we are reporting very strong progress for the quarter. That includes not only financial results, but also business and regulatory accomplishments. Our adjusted earnings per share was $1.98 driven by growth in a hot summer. With results to date and our biggest quarter behind us, we are narrowing our 2026 adjusted EPS guidance range, raising the bottom by $0.10. In addition, the hot summer allows us to reinvest in reliability and resilience for the benefit of our customers and communities.

We also remain very confident in our longer-term outlook. Kimberly will review our financial results and outlook in more detail. Turning to our customer update. I'll start with Energy Arkansas's recently announced service agreement amendment with Google for the expansion of its West Memphis campus. Consistent with our fair share plus pledge and the rate payer protection pledge, this agreement ensures that Google will cover its fair share, which includes the cost of the new investments as well as their share of system costs.

The expansion will create incremental bill benefits for our Arkansas customers, increasing Entergy Arkansas's expected fair share plus customer bill savings by at least $500 million and bringing the total to at least $7.5 billion across Entergy's utility companies. We anticipate that Google's expansion will generate new jobs, new tax revenues and economic activity, which will significantly benefit the West Memphis community.

In connection with the agreement, Entergy Arkansas filed request for approval of its contract with Google, $600 million of investment for battery storage systems and a purchase power agreement for Big Island Solar to provide clean attributes. Pending commission approval targeted for the first half of 2027, the expansion is expected to begin ramping in 2028. Beyond Arkansas, we continue to see several positive indicators, which will support further growth. For example, Entergy states rank among the top 10 nationwide for growth in new business applications. GDP has risen significantly across all of Entergy's regions since the pandemic, reflecting sustained economic expansion and a study by the Louisiana Economic Forecast Group projects that the state will add more than 55,000 jobs over the next 2 years.

Entergy's advantages, including the one-stop shop of our vertically integrated business solid strategy for operations, operational success and commitment to our customers continues to drive customer interest in our service area. And we are putting in the legwork to attract new businesses to our states. To that end, we were named a top utility and economic development by Site Selection magazine for the 19th straight year. All of this is why we have a strong pipeline of projects in varying stages that are not in our base plan.

Data center interest remains strong and in the range of 7 to 12 gigawatts. Our traditional industrial segments continue with discussions for 3 to 5 gigawatts. We see these projects as having the potential to convert into signed agreements within the next 24 months and we don't include every call that we receive, which would be significantly larger. I'm also proud to note that Entergy is 1 of 5 recipients of EEI's 2026 National Key Accounts Award for outstanding customer engagement.

Importantly, this award is determined by corporate customers themselves. This is a validating milestone for our ongoing efforts to put our customers at the forefront of every decision we make. At the same time, we remain excited about the opportunities still ahead to do even more. As our work to meet our customers and communities' expectations has ramped higher over the last few years, our employees have transformed every corner of our company, in some cases, multiple times.

While our work has expanded, our number of employees has not increased significantly. That's because our employees are working smarter and developing innovative solutions that leverage our execution strategy of scale, strategic partnerships and standardization to manage risk, schedule and cost efficiency and help us better -- create better outcomes for our customers' communities. I am profoundly grateful for their innovation as well as their hard work and dedication.

I mentioned the hot summer earlier, we also had strong industrial sales growth, and we saw new records for peak demand. In August, our system experienced more than 24,000 megawatt hours of coincident peak demand, up 2% from the previous peak. The largest change came from Entergy Mississippi, which was 11% higher as a result of data center ramping. Through it all, our employees performed very well, maintaining system reliability and managing costs. The Orange County Advanced Power Station, or OCAPS, is complete and operational delivering 1,200 megawatts of power to our Texas customers at a cost far less than a similar plant would require is starting construction today.

This plant is an important addition for Entergy Texas, where we are experiencing strong population growth and industrial expansion. In addition to much needed capacity, the plant is among the most efficient in the world and will support reliability for all customers of Entergy Texas. OCAPS is the first of many new power plant projects. and our employees and contractors are taking lessons learned from this plant and applying those innovations to other projects. In fact, a significant portion of our workforce from OCAPS is now at other project sites bringing our expectations on continuous improvement as well as health and safety culture.

At the same time, employees from our other sites participated in the commissioning and start-up of OCAPS, to lower risk ahead of their own commissioning. In addition, our standardized design has allowed us to improve efficiency and schedule to a roughly 50% reduction in the time required for engineering, which helps mitigate exposure to rising labor costs. Similarly, the standardized design combined with our scale has allowed us to perform batch purchases of construction materials and create access to construction heavy equipment to improve outcomes on cost and schedule versus market benchmarks today.

Finally, we are deploying technology in the form of drones to inspect equipment, types and the site overall as well as robotic welding technologies to improve quality and speed of outcomes. All of this allows us to remain very competitive in the construction of combined cycles. With the completion of OCAPS, we now have 23 gigawatts or 31 natural gas plants in the queue. 10 plants are in various stages of construction. We also have 9 plants in regulatory review in Louisiana with schedules to support decisions later this year. We have an additional 4 plants that are in our supply plan, but later in the cycle. That leaves 8 units that are available for new growth opportunities.

For transmission, we have more than 1,000 miles of lines planned primarily in Louisiana and Texas and 85% of which are 500 kV lines. Approximately 70% of the investment is already approved with 2 projects currently under regulatory review expected to conclude this year. And about 1/3 of the line miles are already under construction. These projects will support growth from our traditional industrial customer base as well as from data centers. The work will also create efficiency and resilience benefits for all our customers.

Similar to our generation projects, these transmission projects demonstrate our employees' capability to execute at scale with innovation. Much of the terrain for these new lines is remote and difficult to access. Our teams have responded with innovations in foundations and pole design that make more cost-effective equipment available to do the work. You may recall the video from Investor Day that demonstrated an innovative design that allows hands-free setting of cross-arms using helicopters.

And today, the team is making pioneering use of drone technology to string the high-voltage power lines in a fraction of the time. The combination of these innovations significantly reduces the risk of injury, the number of workers and the time required for construction. In addition, these innovations are helping mitigate much of the material and labor cost pressure we are seeing across the industry. Originally deployed on the Commodore to Waterford project, we can replicate these gains across our other projects as we continue to seek more innovation to drive even better outcomes for our customers and communities.

To fuel this growth and in this case, quite literally, in the third quarter, we signed natural gas firm transportation agreements with large midstream and pipeline companies for 1.325 billion cubic feet of natural gas per day. That's enough for Entergy to supply fuel to 10 new combined cycles in Louisiana. This supports our generation growth and also help build new pipeline capacity that benefits our industrial customers' growth. We continue to make progress on resilience to better serve our customers with our $2 billion Phase 1 accelerated resilience programs.

For example, Entergy Louisiana is now working on a $270 million grid resilience project just outside New Orleans. -- that will replace more than 500 poles in other electrical infrastructure, enhancing resilience and reliability for our customers. Brands are also a way to support resilience with affordability, delivering benefits to customers at a much lower cost. Entergy New Orleans broke ground on a grant-funded grid hardening project that will upgrade 94 poles and directly benefit more than 1,900 customers.

In addition, the Department of Energy's Spark program recently awarded our utilities $14 million to deploy advanced dynamic line rating technology across more than 14 million -- across -- excuse me, more than 1,000 miles of existing transmission lines in Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi. This investment will boost the amount of power we can safely move using the infrastructure we already have. Ultimately, our grid will be stronger and more reliable to support the region's economic growth.

We appreciate the DOE's partnership and its commitment to strengthening energy resilience in our region through innovation. Moving to regulatory matters. Putting our customers first remains a cornerstone of outcomes that benefit all stakeholders. Over the past quarter, we continued to move steadily through multiple proceedings. Beginning with the rate case in Arkansas, customer growth as well as disciplined capital and operational management allowed Entergy Arkansas to settle with staff on terms that result in essentially no rate change.

Important components included 9.7% ROE and a 47.5% equity capital structure after adjusting for deferred taxes. We anticipate a commission decision before the end of the year. We appreciate the staff effort to get to a settlement to support credit, which is a piece of the puzzle that enables benefits for our stakeholders, especially customers by keeping financing costs low. Working together, we are able to bring new businesses to the state, new jobs for our service area, more revenues for our local economies and significant business benefits to our existing customers through Fair Share Plus.

Our stakeholders in Arkansas remain aligned to do this work together, and we can do our part to support economic development and protect our customers when we have a strong balance sheet. In Louisiana, we filed a settlement agreement with staff and Walmart in our EVAS docket, which covered the majority of key issues. The hearing was held in early October and we expect the commission to take up the matter at its December business and executive meeting. Louisiana Public Service Commission also approved the $1.2 billion Babel to Webre transmission project at its October meeting. This enables us to support the strong growth in the state, also providing reliability and resilience benefit for all our customers.

We've requested approval for additional resilience and reliability investment in Louisiana and Entergy Louisiana also requested to extend its formula rate plan for 1 year. We are targeting a decision in that docket by the end of the year. Finally, Entergy New Orleans received approval to extend its formula rate plan for 4 more years into 2030. As you know, it's been a busy regulatory year. and we still have much to go before the end. We're continuing to work constructively with our stakeholders to resolve concerns and create value for our customers and communities. We'll see many of you at the EEI Financial Conference, where we'll continue to share our differentiated growth story.

It is anchored in what I just said, a firm commitment to create value for our stakeholders, starting with our customers. We are delivering generational growth for our region and economic development that benefits the customers' communities we serve. Kimberly Fontan and I will be there along with our operating company CEOs and including David Board in his new role as Entergy Texas President and CEO. Many of you may remember David from his days in Investor Relations. We look forward to continuing this conversation with you at the conference.

And now I'll turn the call over to Kimberly, who will review our financial results and outlook.

Kimberly Fontan

Thank you, Drew. Good morning, everyone. We had another very productive quarter. I'll walk through our financial results as well as our guidance and outlook, and I'll provide a look ahead to EEI. Our adjusted EPS was strong at $1.98, as shown on Slide 4. This was higher than last year due to several drivers. As Drew mentioned, it was warmer this year. Even after normalizing for weather, we saw strong sales growth in both the residential and industrial sectors. Industrial growth included data center and primary metals ramping consistent with our expectations. .

We also saw the effects of investments made for our customers, including regulatory actions as well as higher depreciation expense, taxes other than income taxes and financing costs. Other drivers consistent with last quarter's progress against guidance comments, including higher other O&M as we deploy dollars in vegetation management and other maintenance in support of reliability for our customers. higher interest expense at parent and a higher share count from settling equity forwards.

Slide 5 summarizes our credit ratings and affirms that our credit metric outlooks remain better than rating agency thresholds. For financings in the quarter, we settled equity forward totaling just over $900 million in September. We issued junior subordinated notes totaling $1.5 billion, which received 50% equity treatment supporting balance sheet health and managing equity needs for our growth. And Entergy Louisiana issued $1 billion in bonds, the majority of which will finance new growth. We split the notes between 10- and 30-year tenures with an average rate of less than 6%.

Our planned financings for the year are now complete. We will provide credit outlooks at EEI, but I'll give you a preview. We continue to expect strong FFO to debt throughout the outlook period. And we expect Moody's FFO to debt metric to be at 15% or better in all years. As we roll forward a year, our outlook will shift from the 5-year view we provided at Investor Day to 4 years of 2027 through 2030. Our equity plan is summarized on Slide 6. We have been proactive in addressing our equity needs. We've taken significant price risk off the table, and we have ample time to raise capital.

For our 2027 through 2030 need, more than 40% is already contracted, which takes us well into 2028. Our equity needs for the 4-year outlook period are just below our targeted range of 10% to 15% of our total capital plan supported by a number of elements including strong operating cash flows from the business backed by our disciplined capital prioritization and constructive regulatory mechanisms. Production tax credits and investment tax credits are credit supported in the near term and provide customer benefit over the longer term.

In October, we received $256 million in cash from the sale of our 2025 production tax credits. As a reminder, we only include nuclear production tax credits in our forecast once they are earned. We've accessed traditional sources of capital, including through our ATM program and junior subordinated notes. We've also expanded our tools and our approach to customer contracting with hyperscale customers, ensuring these customers pay their Fair Share, protecting other customers and supporting our credit.

We've been innovative in expanding our investment capacity by accessing less traditional markets. For example, in October, we closed on our second build-to-suit lease. This one for Entergy Louisiana's Waterford 6 plant. These structures are competitive with traditional financing, supporting our credit and managing our equity needs during the construction period. And we are listening to our customers as we continue to advance additional growth opportunities. We're exploring other nontraditional financing tools, which will continue to support more growth and our credit and expand our investment capacity while ensuring large customers pay their Fair Share.

This work is in the early stages and is expected to support longer-term projects that would close beyond our 4-year outlook period, further extending our growth rate past 2030. Our adjusted EPS guidance and outlooks are shown on Slide 7. As Drew mentioned, we are narrowing our 2026 guidance range, raising the bottom by $0.10, higher-than-planned retail sales year-to-date enable us to manage the business and flex spending in areas that benefit our customers.

Looking beyond 2026, our outlooks remain unchanged as we continue to expect strong sales to support our greater than 8% trajectory. Drew discussed Entergy Arkansas' contract expansion with Google. We added approximately $600 million to our plan as a result of this development. In total, we increased capital approximately $1.5 billion for 2027 through 2030, inclusive of the investments to support the Google expansion. The incremental spend also includes transmission investments and updates that come out of our annual planning cycle.

The expected earnings impact from this increase moves us into the upper end of our outlook ranges. Drew and I, along with our operating company leaders will be in Phoenix in less than a week where we will talk about our strong customer growth story as well as our plans to invest in reliability to better serve our customers. We have a solid base plan consistent with our strategic objectives. We'll also talk about upside opportunities from the potential for higher sales growth as well as other investments.

Today, we have provided our adjusted earnings per share outlook and a high-level view of our preliminary capital and equity plans through 2030. At EEI, we will provide more details on these outlooks. We have clear line of sight to achieve our outlook, and we have significant opportunities before us. And now we're happy to take your questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Shahriar Pourreza of Wells Fargo.

分析师问答

Constantine Lednev

It's actually Constantine here for Shahriar. Congrats on a great quarter. Maybe starting off on the moving pieces with the new 4-year CapEx plan looks like a modest step-up versus the prior plan. Does that fully account for the data center deals, including the transition in the clean gen options that were mentioned before or maybe another way to ask, is there any other moving pieces that would contribute to potential upside kind of beyond what the 4-year plan currently in the case?

Kimberly Fontan

Sure. Constantine, the $1.5 billion that was added was the $600 million the Arkansas Google expansion, which was primarily the 2 batteries. And then just general puts and takes in the normal capital process. You'll see that in transmission and generation. What's not there -- as you may recall, there's about $1.4 billion of transmission related to the Entergy Louisiana transaction that's pending before the Louisiana Commission, we have not added that. We're for that decision to come out of the regulatory environment.

And then certainly, there's still the clean opportunity that you referenced. So to the extent that our customers have asked for incremental clean in many of their contracts, as those get selected, fees or through self-build processes, those will get added as well. So opportunity to add capital in the plan, but this is really just those few things that I mentioned at this point.

Constantine Lednev

And just to clarify that wouldn't kind of be rolling into the rate base EPS outlook at the EEI, correct?

Kimberly Fontan

Yes. I wouldn't expect that to come in at EEI now.

Constantine Lednev

Okay. Perfect. And then maybe shifting to the regulatory outcomes with Arkansas and flat revenue. Obviously, a great outcome is flat base rates something that you would anticipate to occur kind of more often going forward? And given the revenue sufficiency, does that imply a narrowing of the ROE lag, maybe just any areas of focus for '27 like the Texas GRC or FRPs?.

Andrew Marsh

Well, I think -- this is Drew, David. So I think that the -- Constantine, sorry. I think that the other jurisdictions will depend more upon what the investment requirements are relative to the customers themselves. So in Louisiana and Texas, for example, we had significant resilience investment ongoing. And we also have just traditional sales growth that is requiring generation ads and transmission. So those do not have data centers covering all their costs. Now in the case of Louisiana, there is obviously, a large data center there, and that is helping contribute to offset some of those costs, but not necessarily to make it go back to flat like we were in Arkansas.

I think overall, our build trajectory is still around 4%. So we're still continuing to work on that and find ways to make it even lower. But that is reflecting growth in our traditional our traditional customer base.

Constantine Lednev

Excellent. Understood. Separate congratulations from the team to data board you guys soon. .

Andrew Marsh

Awesome. Thanks, Costa. .

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet of JPMorgan..

Jeremy Tonet

At the Investor Day and earlier in the commentary on the call, you spoke about Energy's ability to enhance self-build capabilities. And where do you see this progress, I guess, so far and specifically helping competitiveness in RFPs and when we think about the renewables there. Just wondering how you think progress has been made and enhances your competitive position there?

Andrew Marsh

That's a good question. So we are continuing to work on that in both the solar area and in the CCS space. We are making good progress, but we don't have any specific announcements to make right now. We continue to work on it. We are finding real progress in the CCS space, in particular with innovations to try and bring the overall construction cost down and make that technology much more competitive and hopefully to fit within the frameworks of the incentives that are available today. .

But we're not at the point yet where we can announce success or a commercial transaction. And we are having conversations with customers about these things and trying to find our way through. So we remain optimistic, but we don't have an opportunity to announce anything right now.

Jeremy Tonet

Got it. That's helpful. Maybe continuing just a little bit more here. I think you talked about 2.5 gigawatts renewables investment to serve Meta's Vista project and part of the upside potential there. And so how should we think about, I guess, timing, your competitiveness here? What could possibly fall into plan over time?

Kimberly Fontan

Jeremy, it's Kimberly. As we've talked about the solar, I would expect the solar investments for that could certainly come in, in the back end of the current forecast period and then extend beyond our 2030 period. That process, many of those go through our RFP processes. Drew talked about expanding our build -- our own build to build capability. But certainly, we could see some upside in this period and then beyond that as well.

Jeremy Tonet

Got it. That's helpful. And then just a quick last 1 for me. Resilience pla Phase Ia filed for an investment that's in the plan period. Can you remind us of expected timing of Phase 2 and beyond? And -- could this -- could there be any overlap in timing of the plans here? Or is this kind of like beyond the plan period?

Andrew Marsh

We haven't given a whole lot of thought to Phase 2 at this point, although we certainly would expect that there would be one. We're working right now on 1a. Phase I would, I think, be near the end of the outlook period at the earliest.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Zimbardo of Jefferies.

Paul Zimbardo

The first, just a clarification, I think for Kimberly. On the upper half of the range, does that applied for the '27 through 2030 range? Or is that later in the plan? I just wasn't clear if that's for every year of the plan.

Kimberly Fontan

Yes, that's a look at just the before year period, the reference to the full 4-year period. .

Paul Zimbardo

Okay. Okay. Great. And then the other one more a big picture question. Just I know you've talked about in the past, could you provide an update on any efforts on exploring some more speed-to-market generation options, whether reciprocating engines or something else for those customers looking for more speed to market?

Andrew Marsh

Yes, sure, Paul. This is Drew. We are looking at some of that stuff. It's can be very, very expensive. We are looking for things that can extend the assets that we already have. So primarily as a shorter-term and more cost-effective option for customers. So that includes things like we announced with Google, some batteries to help with peak because Arkansas is long on baseload energy. And so getting some more peaking capacity in Arkansas is helpful.

We're looking at uprates of power plants, whether it's nuclear or gas units to help out. And we're also looking at some solar, which we think can get in fairly quickly. Those are the primary mechanisms, but we are looking at some of these other options and having conversations with customers about them. We haven't seen a whole lot of interest from that because of the price challenges. But it's certainly a piece of the conversation.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Levine of Citigroup.

Ryan Levine

Is there any upside in the 7 to 12 gigawatts or the 3 to 5 gigawatts of load that you identified potentially within 24 months that could be associated with the recent venture global announcement, realize those as announces behind the meter, but do you anticipate any opportunity, both on -- either on the generation or on the T&D side associated with that opportunity?

Andrew Marsh

Yes, Ryan, this is Drew. We haven't -- we're not in a position to talk specifically about that kind of thing with Venture Global, but certainly, we are open to partnerships with anybody that is interested and are always willing to have those kinds of conversations. And there is a tremendous amount of growth opportunity in our service territory. So we continue -- right now, we're talking still about the 7 to 12 and 3 to 5, that is enough to sustain our growth at current rates well into the future.

So I don't -- I wouldn't comment on any potential expansions at this point other than, say, just sort of repeat what we've already said. And again, in regards to the Venture Global piece, we're excited they are a customer of ours. And so we are excited for them to be interested in further investment in our service territory that will certainly benefit our local communities and our local economies. But at the same time, we have a lot of generation building capability ourselves, and we're competing to do that on our own. So we have a lot of success, as you know.

So we'll see where that goes. But we are very confident that we can continue to compete in our service territory.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Sharon Wang of Evercore ISI.

Unknown Analyst

So on the industrial demand, I saw that growth was about 5% this quarter versus roughly 10% in Q2. Could you please help us understand any change in the underlying activity there? How should we think about that trajectory into '27.

Kimberly Fontan

Yes, Sharon, it's Kimberly. There's no underlying change from what we expected there. You're starting to get comparisons year-over-year to where you saw ramping last year. So it's just it's -- as you continue to go through the quarters, you're continuing to see increases, but the year-over-year may be different on a quarter basis depending on when things ramped last year. You may recall from our Investor Day, we talked about 16% growth rate in the sales for industrial from '26 through '30. And we don't see anything moving us from that. We announced Google expansion today, which is certainly continuing to support increased sales there.

So structurally, nothing has changed. What you're just seeing is some typical quarter-over-quarter differences based on what was in last year versus this year.

Unknown Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. And then on the expanding Google agreement in Arkansas, could you help us understand how much is already reflected in your capital or earnings outlook versus incremental upside?

Kimberly Fontan

Sure. The $600 million, which is for the 2 batteries was added in this quarter, you'll see that at EEI as well. So that's the investment that was added, and then you'll see incremental sales as a result of that agreement, but that's the primary investment change that you'll see associated with that. .

Operator

Our next question is from the line of David Paz of Wolfe Research.

David Paz

Actually, just a clarification, I think you were asked about the upper half of the outlooks, but I believe can release at the upper end of the growth outlook in your prepared remarks. Is that correct?

Kimberly Fontan

I said upper half. So the upper half from '27 through '30 that's consistent with -- I think you'll find that in my comments, but just to clarify, that's what that was. .

David Paz

Just on the 7 to 12 and 3 to 5 gigawatts that you expect to convert to ESAs within the next 24 months. Could that start to ramp up in your current plan -- so I guess, through 2030 or would that since post 2030, your expectation?

Kimberly Fontan

Yes. I think the answer is both, David. You could certainly see some ramping in the current period and then certainly to get full assets like the CCTs that are in our Turbine Hugh that are available, those are going to come online afterwards. So it's an extension really of the growth rate that we've seen today well into -- well beyond 2030. But you could see some opportunity in the current window as well. .

David Paz

Okay. Great. Just on the alternative financing that you discussed, I think -- I believe you said those would be mostly post 2030 at least for CapEx beyond that. Just can you give us any more examples of what that those could look like?

Kimberly Fontan

Sure. We -- as I mentioned, we just closed on the build-to-suit lease. That's the second one. That's the first of the kind in the utility sector, and we've used that effectively here. So this is a continuation of that process around accessing markets that perhaps are less traditional. So it could be private credit or other tools that help us expand our investment capacity. Again, much of that would likely show up outside our current outlook period. And I would fully expect to own those assets over time, but this is just helping us get our customers on faster, expand the capacity, support the balance sheet, help and really extend that outlook beyond 2030. .

Operator

And our last question comes from the line of Andrew Weisel of Scotiabank.

Andrew Weisel

Great updates. Just 1 quick clarifying one. On equity you mentioned that the updated needs today are below the targeted 10% to 15%. Is that something that we should expect going forward? You guys are consistently adding CapEx to the plan. What should we expect going forward?

Kimberly Fontan

Andrew, I would expect to continue to target that 10% to 15% for a total capital plan. That's going to vary based on specific incremental assets, but what you're seeing right now, which is in the 9% to 9.5% range is just a function of timing around the capital adds. But I would still expect to target that 10% to 15% over the over the total capital plan. .

Andrew Weisel

Okay. So as you add more capital near term or over time, 10% to 15% is the number that we should be expecting forward?

Kimberly Fontan

The whole capital plan, yes. .

Operator

With no further questions, that concludes our Q&A session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Liz for some final remarks. Please go ahead.

Liz Hunter

Thank you, Jay, and thanks to everyone for participating this morning. Our quarterly report on Form 10-Q is due to the SEC on November 9 and provides more details and disclosures about our financial statements. Events that occur prior to the date of our 10-Q filing that provide additional evidence of conditions that existed at the date of the balance sheet would be reflected in our financial statements in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. .

Also, as a reminder, we maintain a web page as part of Entergy's Investor Relations website called Regulatory and Other Information, which provides key updates of regulatory proceedings and important milestones on our strategic execution. While some of this information may be considered material information, you should not rely exclusively on this page for all relevant company information. And this concludes our call. Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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