EPR Properties 2026年第三季度业绩电话会议：上调FFO及投资指引

核心要点

• 受投资支出、合同租金上涨以及利息收入增加的支撑，2026年第三季度营收同比增长12%至2.041亿美元。
• 调整后运营资金（FFO）每股增长8.8%至1.49美元，而AFFO每股增长10.8%至1.54美元。EPR修改了其AFFO的定义，将维护性资本支出排除在外，并对历史数据进行了重述。
• EPR在该季度投资了1.724亿美元，平均初始现金收益率约为8.3%，使今年以来的累积投资支出达到6.645亿美元。
• 管理层将2026年调整后FFO指引上调至每股5.49-5.57美元，并将投资支出指引上调至6.75亿-7.25亿美元。
• 资产组合的租金覆盖率提升至2.1倍。截至季度末，价值76亿美元的资产组合包含350处物业，出租率或运营率达到99%。
• EPR通过与Live Nation的定制开发项目进军现场演出场地领域，并继续扩大其健身与康体资产组合。影院资产占比下降至投资组合的约三分之一，朝管理层约20%的长期目标迈进。

关键财务数据

业务与运营业绩

EPR的总投资组合规模达76亿美元，涵盖350处物业。核心体验式资产占年化基础租金的96%，包括由61家客户运营的296处物业。其余4%由租赁给4家运营方的54处教育物业组成。

该公司首个现场演出场地投资项目是位于俄勒冈州波特兰与Live Nation合作的定制开发项目。管理层特别指出了约4,000个座位的中型场地存在未被满足的需求，并表示该项目仍计划于明年夏天开业。

健身与康体投资包括位于加利福尼亚州欧文的Life Time物业，以及位于弗吉尼亚州泰森斯画廊（Tysons Galleria）的Onelife Fitness门店。管理层将两者均描述为高质量房地产，并表示近期翻新和扩建的健身物业呈现出趋稳态势。

影院资产的表现提振了组合业绩。据管理层介绍，截至9月的今年以来票房收入增长了约20%，正迈向2019年以来表现最好的一年。EPR旗下的影院以3%的银幕数量贡献了北美票房总额的约8%；其中71%配备了躺椅，84%提供升级餐饮服务，69%拥有高端大银幕。

餐娱一体（eat & play）板块保持韧性，Topgolf受益于费用削减和创收举措。景点业务整体表现良好，地理布局的多样化有助于抵消偶发的恶劣天气影响。教育业务则继续面临更高的劳动力成本、拨款资助挑战和监管压力。

EPR在该季度出售了芝加哥英国学校（British School of Chicago），资本化率在7%低段。处置总收益为7,400万美元，其中包括出售该私立学校获得的6,820万美元净收益，以及确认为3,050万美元的投资收益。

管理层业绩指引

管理层表示，提成租金指引的上调主要反映了影院（尤其是Regal）以及加拿大景点资产的强劲表现。公司预计第四季度的提成租金和参与性利息收入约为600万美元，低于上年同期的近800万美元，原因是一名租户的部分租金已于今年第三季度确认。

风险与关注领域

借贷成本上升导致净利息支出同比增长710万美元。管理层表示，尽管交易定价和租金递增条款也有所调整，但债务资本的定价重置速度很快。EPR明确表示，不会为了追求交易量而牺牲投资利差。

教育资产组合继续面临劳动力成本通胀、拨款资助受限和监管压力。管理层还指出，低收入消费者群体中存在局部财务紧张的情况。

受利率、建筑成本、租户信用和执行风险的影响，开发项目面临更高的门槛。与现成存量资产相比，EPR针对开发类项目的回报溢价目标为50至75个基点。

景点业务依然面临偶发恶劣天气事件和运营安全隐患的风险。管理层强调，运营方保持着常规检查和安全保障计划，但同时也表示将继续关注近期事件是否会对未来的投资决策产生影响。

EPR在12月有4.5亿美元债务到期，此后直至次年6月才有下一笔到期债务。截至季度末，公司拥有5,240万美元现金，在其10亿美元的循环信贷额度下无未偿余额，并有来自未结算远期股权协议的预估净收益1.346亿美元可用。

分析师问答亮点

• 投资项目储备：管理层表示，储备的投资项目异常丰富，涵盖健身与康体、餐娱一体（eat & play）、景点以及现场娱乐领域的收购与开发机会。收购预计仍将是重要组成部分，而开发项目则必须满足更高的回报率门槛。
• 投资收益率：管理层表示，当前的定价谈判意味着收益率有约25个基点的变动幅度，同时也有机会获得更有力的合同租金递增条款。EPR意在维持其设定的目标投资利差。
• 现场演出场地：EPR认为中型场地是一个尚未被充分满足的细分市场，能够吸引重量级演出者。公司还强调了Live Nation的信用质量以及现场娱乐需求的韧性。
• 影院敞口：管理层对通过业务多元化和资产出售来降低影院集中度持开放态度。然而，与Regal和AMC签署的大型主租赁协议限制了在不进行大规模交易的情况下单独出售特定物业的能力。
• 资本能力：管理层预计，在不提取远期股权收益的情况下，年底杠杆率约为5.0倍，并表示资产负债表有能力支持持续增长。
• 2027年提成租金：在未提供正式2027年指引的情况下，管理层表示预计明年票房收入更高，来自Regal的提成租金也将增加。

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管理层陈述

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the EPR Properties Q3 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Also, as a reminder, this conference is being recorded today. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time.

I will now hand the call over to Brian Moriarty, Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications.

Brian Moriarty

Thank you. Thanks for joining us today for our third quarter 2026 earnings call and webcast. Participants on today's call are Greg Silvers, Chairman and CEO; Ben Fox, Executive Vice President and CIO; and Mark Peterson, Executive Vice President and CFO.

We'll start the call by informing you that this call may include forward-looking statements identified in the Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995 by such words as will be, intend, continue, believe, may, expect, hope, anticipate or other such comparable terms. The company's actual financial condition and the results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Discussion of those factors that could cause results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are contained in the company's SEC filings, including the company's reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q. Additionally, this call will contain certain references to non-GAAP measures, which we believe are useful in evaluating the company's performance. A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in today's earnings release and supplemental information furnished to the SEC under Form 8-K. If you wish to follow along, today's earnings release, supplemental and earnings call presentation are all available on the Investor Center page of the company's website, www.eprkc.com.

Now I'll turn the call over to Greg Silvers.

Gregory Silvers

Thank you, Brian. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter 2026 earnings call and webcast. Our focus this year has been on accelerating growth, and our third quarter results demonstrate continued momentum across the business. Revenue increased 12%, while FFO as adjusted per share increased 8.8% compared with the same period in 2025. These results were supported by a strong in-place portfolio and a robust pace of investment activity.

Our investment spending remained strong throughout the quarter as we continue to broaden our experiential portfolio and establish important new relationships. We entered the live venue category through a build-to-suit development in Portland, Oregon with industry leader Live Nation. We have long discussed the strong sustained demand fundamentals of live performance and our team worked diligently to identify the right initial opportunity.

We also acquired a Life Time fitness and wellness property in Irvine, California, further expanding both the depth and quality of our fitness and wellness portfolio. Our portfolio coverage incrementally increased during the quarter to 2.1x. We're also pleased to see box office running well ahead of last year. The third quarter capped off a record summer and year-to-date box office was up approximately 20% through September, driven by a broad mix of genres and compelling titles that continue to bring audiences back to theaters. Our results underscore that the consumer continues to demonstrate that they value and prioritize experiential offerings.

We continue to draw on multiple sources of capital to fund our growth. During the quarter, we recycled capital through the sale of a private school property, entered into forward sale agreements under our ATM program and executed a new credit agreement that includes a $600 million term loan. With our credit facilities and forward equity in place, we have the capacity to fund a strong pipeline of opportunities. Given our capacity and our activity to date, we're pleased to raise our investment spending earnings guidance, which represents an increase of 8% at the midpoint over 2025. As our portfolio expands and diversifies, we remain well positioned to capitalize on the continued growth of experiential real estate.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Ben for a closer look at the business and our performance.

Benjamin Fox

Thank you, Greg. As Greg just highlighted, this quarter marked several notable firsts for EPR. Our first investment in the live performance venue with Live Nation and our first acquisition of a fitness facility leased to Life Time. Both transactions highlight not only our continuing investment momentum, but also the accelerating diversification of our portfolio. During the quarter, we invested $172.4 million at an average initial cash yield of approximately 8.3%, bringing our year-to-date investments to $664.5 million. That volume includes a new experiential category, live venues, along with continued additions to our fitness and wellness, eat & play and experiential lodging portfolios. Two of this quarter's investments stand out for their exceptional A+ real estate, Life Time in Irvine, California and Onelife Fitness at Tysons Galleria in Virginia, both occupy world-class locations that we believe support their long-term success. In addition to these investments, we expect to invest another $21 million this year in experiential development and redevelopment projects already underway.

As we noted last quarter, our theater exposure continues to decline as our experiential investment volume accelerates. Theaters now represent roughly 1/3 of our portfolio, and we expect that share to continue trending toward our long-term goal of approximately 20%. Given our investment pace and the depth of our pipeline, we are pleased to once again increase our 2026 investment spending guidance to a range of $675 million to $725 million.

Two points on our pipeline and the current investment environment. First, the breadth of our pipeline is unparalleled in recent memory, and we look forward to sharing some of the exciting opportunities we're pursuing in the coming quarters. Second, on cost of capital and investment spreads, three factors are working in our favor. Our transactions generally have rate protection built in prior to closing, which provides a buffer during periods of market volatility. As we've said before, our biggest competition is debt, not net lease. In this market, debt capital has repriced even faster, so our clients are receptive to conversations on pricing. And because our business is relationship-driven with a proprietary pipeline, we enjoy higher average entry yields, which give us a natural cushion.

Turning to the portfolio. At the end of the third quarter, our portfolio totaled $7.6 billion of gross investment value across 350 properties, which were 99% leased or operated. By ABR, 96% is in our core experiential categories represented by 296 properties operated by 61 clients, which remain 99% leased or operated. The remaining 4% is our education portfolio, made up of 54 properties leased to four operators, which were 100% leased at quarter end. Portfolio health remains sound with unit level rent coverage increasing to 2.1x. While data indicate pockets of strain among the lowest income consumers, people's enduring preference for experiences over things continues to support our portfolio. Our portfolio also benefits from diversification across multiple demographic dimensions with experiences that appeal to many generations and income levels.

Theaters are a great example. Not only do they span all of these demographics, but they also have historically proven resilient in economic downturns. And most importantly, as Greg has said many times, content drives performance. People want to see cool stuff. This year's box office, which is up 20% year-to-date and on track for its best year since 2019, demonstrates exactly that. We've talked about who goes to the movies before, but with the strength we continue to see across our theater portfolio, a few points are worth repeating. Gen Z accounts for 40% of all moviegoers and in multiple polls, Gen Alpha has said it prefers the big screen. Format matters. People can't replicate IMAX and other premium large-format screens at home, and the industry has created real urgency around seeing certain films in these formats. Our portfolio over-indexes to exactly those experiences. 71% of our theaters have recliners, 84% offer enhanced food and beverage and 69% have premium large-format screens. These features help our theaters generate roughly 8% of North American box office gross with only 3% of screens.

Finally, the industry has coalesced around a 45-day theatrical window, which supports exhibitors and spare studios a second marketing push after films leave theaters. Some films will run longer, including the upcoming Netflix release of Narnia with a 7-week window. And it's not just the movies. Young people are lining up for concerts, comedy shows and other live events. They want to get out of the house, and they are hungry for shared experiences. We're capitalizing on this momentum through partnership with industry leaders like Live Nation, whose venue will host concerts and comedy shows.

Turning to other areas of our portfolio. Our eat & play segment remains resilient, strengthened by the quality of our locations despite broader industry moderation. Topgolf's positive momentum since the sale continues. Expense reductions and revenue initiatives are delivering results, and our Topgolf portfolio remains very healthy. Attractions performed well in the third quarter with several parks outperforming. As we saw in ski during the winter, geographic diversification and attractions helped offset isolated summer weather events. Our fitness and wellness portfolio continued with solid performance in the third quarter with stabilizing trends at several recently renovated and expanded properties. Finally, our education portfolio continues to face industry-wide headwinds, including higher labor costs, grant funding challenges and regulatory pressure. Despite this backdrop, this portfolio remains resilient.

Moving on to dispositions. Reflecting our commitment to accretive capital recycling. In the third quarter, we completed the sale of the British School of Chicago to a public net lease peer, transacting at a cap rate in the low 7% range. Following this sale, we are updating our 2026 disposition guidance to approximately $86 million as we do not anticipate any additional dispositions prior to year-end.

In summary, our portfolio remains resilient. Our diversification is accelerating, and we are very excited about the investment opportunities in front of us.

With that, I'll turn it over to Mark for a review of our financial performance.

Mark Peterson

Thank you, Ben. Today, I'll discuss our strong financial performance for the third quarter, provide an update on our balance sheet and close by discussing the increases in our earnings and investment spending guidance for the year. FFO as adjusted for the quarter was $1.49 per share versus $1.37 in the prior year, an increase of 8.8% and AFFO for the quarter was $1.54 per share compared to $1.39 in the prior year, an increase of 10.8%. Please note that this quarter, we have revised our definition of AFFO to no longer deduct maintenance capital expenditures. This change was made to be consistent with most other triple net REITs and is immaterial. All prior periods have been recast to reflect this change and reconciliations from the previous definition to the new definition are included in the supplemental and press release.

Before I walk through the key variances, I want to explain two items excluded from both FFO as adjusted and AFFO. First, during the quarter, we had disposition proceeds of $74 million, which included the sale of a private school property for net proceeds of $68.2 million and a gain of $30.5 million was recognized. Second, as discussed last quarter, we entered into a new amended and restated $1.6 billion credit agreement. And in connection with this, we recognized $605,000 of costs associated with loan refinancing or payoff.

Now moving to a few key variances. Total revenue for the quarter was $204.1 million versus $182.3 million in the prior year, an increase of $21.8 million or 12%. This increase was primarily due to the impact of investment spending as well as rent and interest bumps. Percentage rents and participating interest for the quarter were $9.8 million, up from $7 million in the prior year, primarily due to higher percentage rent recognized from our attraction and theater properties. Both other income and other expense relate primarily to our consolidated operating properties, including our four operating theaters and The Kartrite Resort & Indoor Waterpark. The increase in other income and other expense versus prior year is due primarily to better performance at our theater properties as a result of strong box office during the quarter.

On the expense side, interest expense net increased by $7.1 million due to an increase in average borrowings and the weighted average interest rate on our outstanding debt as well as a decrease in capitalized interest versus the prior year. FFO as adjusted for the 9 months ended September 30 was $4.16 per share compared to $3.81 in the prior year, an increase of 9.2%. And AFFO for the same period was $4.26 per share compared to $3.88 in the prior year, an increase of 9.8%.

Turning to the next slide, I'll review some of the company's key credit ratios. As you can see, our coverage ratios continue to be very strong with fixed charge coverage at 3.5x and both interest and debt service coverage ratios at 4.0x. Our pro forma net debt to annualized adjusted EBITDAre was 4.9x at quarter end, which is below the low end of our targeted range of 5X to 5.6x. Pro forma net debt is calculated by subtracting the estimated net proceeds from all forward sale agreements under our ATM program from net debt. Additionally, our pro forma net debt to gross assets was 40% on a book basis at quarter end, and our common dividend continues to be very well covered with an AFFO payout ratio of 60% for the third quarter.

Now let's move on to debt and capital market activities and our balance sheet, which is in great shape to support our continued growth. At quarter end, we had consolidated debt of $3.3 billion, of which $2.8 billion is fixed rate debt with an average blended coupon of approximately 4.4%. During the quarter, upon maturity, we repaid in full $179.6 million of senior unsecured notes that were originally issued in a private placement transaction.

As discussed in our last call, on July 17, we entered into a new amended and restated $1.6 billion credit agreement that, among other things, extended the maturity date and reduced the interest rate on our $1 billion revolving credit facility and established a new $600 million delayed draw term loan facility that was fully drawn at quarter end. The term loan is due in 2032 with interest based on our current credit ratings at SOFR plus 115 basis points. Additionally, during the quarter, we entered into two forward sale agreements under our ATM program for initial gross sales proceeds of $66.6 million or an average sale price of $6.79 per share. No forward sale agreements were settled during the quarter. And as of quarter end, we had total estimated net proceeds from unsettled forward sale agreements of $134.6 million, representing just under 2.3 million common shares.

Our liquidity position remains strong, and we are well positioned to support our continued growth. In addition to the amount available under forward sale agreements that I just discussed, at quarter end, we had $52.4 million of cash on hand and no balance on our $1 billion revolver. As far as upcoming debt maturities, we have $450 million of debt coming due in December and then nothing comes due until June of next year.

Turning to guidance. We are increasing our 2026 FFO as adjusted per share guidance to a range of $5.49 to $5.57 from a range of $5.41 to $5.57, representing an increase versus the prior year of 8% at the midpoint. We expect a slightly higher percentage increase in AFFO per share. We are also increasing our 2026 guidance for investment spending to a range of $675 million to $725 million from a range of $600 million to $700 million. We are revising disposition proceeds to $86 million for the year from a range of $50 million to $100 million. We are increasing our percentage rent and participating interest income guidance to a range of $21.5 million to $24.5 million from a range of $18.5 million to $22.5 million, primarily due to higher amounts expected related to our theater and attraction properties. Please note that the midpoint of this range implies that fourth quarter percentage rent and participating interest income will be approximately $6 million. This is lower than the prior year's fourth quarter amount of nearly $8 million due to the recognition of a part of one tenant's percentage rent in the third quarter of this year versus the fourth quarter in the prior year. We are revising our G&A expense guidance to a range of $57 million to $59 million from a range of $56 million to $59 million due primarily to an increase in expected noncash share-based compensation expense.

Finally, our guidance for other income and other expense has been updated to a range of $44 million to $50 million and a range of $43 million to $49 million, respectively. The net increase in this guidance of $1 million reflects the additional contribution expected from our operating theaters given the strong box office performance as well as additional gains anticipated related to our Canadian FX hedges, which is booked to other income. Guidance details can be found on Page 23 of our supplemental.

Now with that, I'll turn it back over to Greg for his closing remarks.

Gregory Silvers

Thank you, Mark. As you've heard today, the experience economy continues to demonstrate strength and resilience, and EPR is uniquely positioned to take advantage of this trend as it is the only diversified REIT that focuses solely on the experiential economy. So far this year, we've delivered post-COVID highs in investments and sector-leading FFO as adjusted per share growth. During the quarter, we utilized multiple tools in our tool shed, including opportunistically raising equity through our ATM program, recycling capital through dispositions and thoughtfully refinancing our debt with a new term loan execution. Our focus remains on prudently deploying capital to acquire high-quality properties that are valued by the consumer and deliver accretive earnings growth to our shareholders.

With that, why don't I open it up for questions. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Anthony Paolone with JPMorgan.

分析师问答

Anthony Paolone

My first question relates to what you described as an unparalleled pipeline of deals. So can you talk a bit more about just what's in that? How much is maybe acquisition opportunities versus build-to-suits, portfolios, areas that you would invest in, et cetera?

Benjamin Fox

Sure, Tony. So, by breadth, we really are talking about all those things that you've mentioned. It's that the diversity of opportunities we're seeing is really, really exciting, right? So we've talked about fitness and wellness before. And even within that category, we're really seeing opportunities that stretch all the way from things that we've talked about from golf to fitness facilities and everything in between. And then beyond that, we're seeing opportunities in a lot of our other verticals, like eat & play, attractions, live entertainment, all of them have activity and the conversations have just been very engaging and encouraging.

Gregory Silvers

Tony, I would add, I think part of what, again, that's going on right now is we're seeing a really continued focus on people even in these categories, continuing to focus on spending money on these experiential properties and the consumers continues to be highly supportive of this. And so our operators and our tenants are continuing to invest and grow their businesses. So that's creating opportunities even in the face of some of the challenges that are generally going in the economy.

Benjamin Fox

And then on the point of development versus acquisitions, we're seeing a split. And consistent with this year, there are a number of acquisitions that we can expect for the coming year. Development, there's always a high hurdle. And in the current rate environment, that hurdle is probably even a little bit higher, but we are exploring those opportunities and as discussed on the call, have a pipeline of those already in place.

Anthony Paolone

Okay. And then just my second one is as it relates to your more recent theme park acquisitions this year. How did they do this summer? How are they performing and also your appetite to do more in that space?

Gregory Silvers

Again, Tony, I will let Ben chime in. I think, again, as we anticipated, this was a transitory year. So we -- consistent with that, I think we think these are performing in line with kind of where we anticipated. It doesn't mean there was -- we anticipated some degree of challenges as you change the operator and things. I think as we move into this coming year, you'll see a ramp-up. Remember, we committed to the capital -- additional capital going into those properties, and I think that will do.

I think likewise, again, the overall attractions industry has been incredibly resilient over time and continues to demonstrate that. We've had certain events toward the end of the season this year that has brought attention to that. I think everyone in the industry, any sort of event that occurs is like that we've seen is tragic and all of our operators are very much in the focus of that. Safety is of utmost importance to them, and they have demonstrated programs of inspection and safety. And literally, if you look over the billions of people that have written rides and things of that, they have a great overall track record of safety. So we'll have to see how -- if that impacts our belief on kind of the -- what we would do in the future. But right now, everything is playing out the right way. I think we thought it would be, and we'll see about opportunities as we go forward.

But Ben, I don't know if you had anything to add to that.

Benjamin Fox

I think that covers it very well. That's exactly what we're seeing.

Operator

Our next question comes from James Feldman with Wells Fargo.

Conor Peaks

You've got Conor here on with Jamie. Given your first investment in Live Nation for a performance venue this quarter, can you talk through what makes performance venues attractive from both a credit and real estate perspective? And can you describe what your runway to grow exposure here looks like?

Gregory Silvers

Again, I'll let Ben give more details, but I think, Conor, first of all, again, if you go -- if you just look about the resilience of it, I mean, live performance has been -- it has been incredible as far as its strength in the underlying experiential economy. I think the model for how musicians make their money has substantially changed to where they're all out and supported on that road.

And let's be candid, Live Nation is the 800-pound gorilla in that market. So I think they've announced a multibillion-dollar expansion program that they're looking for to increase the depth and breadth of their venues. That doesn't mean we're going to be able to do all of those. But I think we're excited about the underlying dynamics of demand compared with the ability to partner with a world-class operator. And I think that just opens up a whole another opportunity for growth for us. But Ben?

Benjamin Fox

Yes. That's exactly what we're seeing. And then what's very exciting is you look at the growth that Live Nation some of the other operators are having, there's a void still of midsized venues. If you think about 4,000 seat, right? So you have the larger amphitheater and then there's smaller local, but that midsize still is an underserved market. And it's really a sweet spot in that it's the perfect size that attracts headline performances and you can command very attractive pricing and there's just a lot of unmet demand. So that gives us a lot of encouragement about the pipeline and the future opportunity in this sector.

Gregory Silvers

And just to note, when we say very attractive pricing, we think that's very attractive pricing for ourselves. The cost of the tickets, I know everyone is complaining about the cost of tickets, but very attractive pricing is relative to which side of the equation you're sitting on. So we think it's very attractive from our perspective.

Mark Peterson

You also mentioned credit. We have Live Nation credit. So that's important to point out as well.

Conor Peaks

Really appreciate the insight. And then maybe given the tick up in rent coverage in the portfolio to 2.1x this quarter, can you walk us through what you're seeing that's driving this increase? And are there any specific sectors or types of tenants driving that?

Gregory Silvers

I think overall, clearly, there's no doubt that the overall rent coverage is being helped by the theater and the performance of that. But I think overall in experiential, I think there's some really good data points. I think -- and I'd reference you guys to McKinsey's report on the State of the Consumer in 2026, where they wrote that the experience economy has become one of the structural forces reshaping global consumer markets rather than viewing experiences as discretionary indulgences, consumers are increasingly treating them as an important part of how they choose to spend both their time and money.

So what we're seeing is people are choosing experiences over stuff and they're continuing to demonstrate that with their spending patterns. And whether you look at credit card data or spending data from the various banks, we're continuing to see experiential spending up and to the right. So we think we're in the right categories, and we think we're the only REIT that offers that level of exposure. So we feel really well with how we're positioned.

Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Stevenson with Huntington.

Robert Stevenson

Greg or Ben, the new Live Nation asset, press reports have that opening next summer. Is that still accurate? And can you talk about how big of an investment that is? And if there's a period of free rent or that starts to get rent to you guys next summer?

Benjamin Fox

That time line is still accurate. And in line with our other practice, we're not going to disclose the specific transaction economics, but that time line for opening is consistent.

Robert Stevenson

Okay. And then, Mark, you have roughly $50 million in cash and $135 million available under the ATM. How much additional debt can you issue from here and still stay in your targeted leverage range? Just curious as to how much dry powder, so to speak, you have to deploy here without having to go back to the market and issue more equity.

Mark Peterson

Yes. Let's just kind of roll forward where we're at. As I mentioned, $50 million of cash, so kind of $35 million of excess as we kind of roll forward to the rest of the year, that should cover our investment spending, which remaining is about $35 million. So we kind of finished the year, that's covered. We have zero on our line today. We do have $450 million of debt due in December, and we can take that down with our lines since we have zero on it or -- and of course, we have those proceeds from the forwards. But we probably don't need the forward equity until next year, so we can kind of have that in the tank for next year's spending. And as that line gets to about that mid-4s, you start to look at potentially a bond transaction that would pay down that line. Typically, that gets to $450 million, $500 million, we look to the market to pay down the line.

In terms of leverage, we finished the quarter here, third quarter at 4.9x pro forma. Just even with the refinancing of the debt in fourth quarter, should that happen, we finished the year around 5x. That's without taking down any forward equity. So we're in great shape kind of approaching next -- going into next year when our leverage range is 5 to 5.6 and being at the lower end of the range. So I think we have plenty of capacity to support the growth.

Operator

Our next question comes from Upal Rana with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Upal Rana

Ben, you touched on this briefly, but given the increase in cost of capital, how much have investment yields moved on a like-for-like basis? You mentioned the sellers are open to pricing adjustments, but are you get enough to preserve your targeted spreads?

Benjamin Fox

It's a good question, Upal. And we are very comfortable with maintaining our spreads like we talked about, our average entry yield is already very attractive. And conversations are probably in the neighborhood in terms of movement these days of 25 basis points, give or take. And we're also seeing movement on escalators and that we're able to drive more attractive lease increases in a lot of our conversations.

Gregory Silvers

Yes. Upal, I think these conversations are dynamic. I mean a lot of the deals that we closed this year were based upon the cost of capital that we had done previous to the year. And as we move forward, we are -- and I think over the years, we've demonstrated our commitment to accretive growth. And therefore, if we're able to either expand or contract that to hit that. And so I think the good thing is what I talked about earlier, we're in markets that are demonstrating growth and fundamental consumer support.

So our operators are looking to deploy capital, and there is a cost of capital to do that if they want to grow. So I think, as Ben said, they're more receptive to at least continuing their growth. And for us to be there, there's a cost for us doing that, and we've had these discussions, and we'll have more of them.

Benjamin Fox

And ultimately, as Greg highlighted, we're going to remain disciplined in our deployment, and we're not going to sacrifice spread for volume.

Upal Rana

Okay. Great. That was helpful. And then maybe last quarter, you mentioned some of the percentage rent strength was timing related rather than incremental full year upside. With the percentage rent guidance raised this quarter, what changed relative to those assumptions? And was that really The Odyssey and Spider-Man or any kind of other experiential categories?

Mark Peterson

Yes, you're right about a little bit of timing between Q3 and Q4. But overall, the overall increase of $2.5 million is really a combination of theater performance particularly the Regal percentage rents and a couple of other smaller amounts. And we also saw strength overall in the attraction space, particularly with our Canadian assets. So those are really the two primary areas that drove the increase for the year of $2.5 million at the midpoint.

Operator

Our next question comes from Smedes Rose with Citigroup.

Bennett Rose

Yes, I wanted to ask just a little bit about maybe just the Life Time fitness acquisition. I think you said it's at Tysons Corner. So we clearly see a lot of other REITs that have, frankly, a better cost of capital relative to you buying those assets. I was just wondering, could you talk a little bit about the pricing on that specific opportunity and kind of maybe how it came to you and maybe the competitive landscape when it comes to those kinds of facilities?

Gregory Silvers

First of all, let's be clear, the Tysons Galleria asset was not -- Life Time was in Irvine, California. So -- that's quite all right. I just want to make sure that we get that. But second of all, I think as we've talked about, all of ours are relationship driven. I think for us, without displaying any sort of particular that we said our cap rates were average in the 8s, and these are consistent with that. So I think our ability to source those deals is really a long time kind of us working with people and Ben's relationships and other people's relationships here.

So I think we are, like I said, uniquely positioned to kind of take advantage of some of that. We continue to be, I think, fluid and be able to kind of respond in very quickly and timely manners. And so it positions us to kind of take advantage of some of these deals. And like Ben talked about, we probably have -- again, you talk about that cap rate with probably again, I don't know if they report but maybe the best life time of performance west of the Mississippi. So I think we feel pretty good about our ability to continue to consistently do things that, as you say, others should be able to beat us, but they don't.

Bennett Rose

It wasn't. It's not a criticism. It was just observation. I wanted to ask you also on the build-to-suit opportunities, you mentioned that it's sort of a higher bar. But I guess just in general, what sort of spread to your typical going-in cap rates would you look for on a development opportunities?

Benjamin Fox

Yes, Smedes. The higher bar is really that development projects always multiple factors come into play. It's not just for us, but it's for the operators as well, right? So when they're looking at projects, the cost of capital and their cost to build, so construction costs, everything comes into play. And so that's really what we're talking about with the higher bar. In terms of spreads, it's very consistent with where we always target and the kind of 50 to 75 basis point premium to in place.

Gregory Silvers

The other thing I would point out is, again, they are all -- and add on to what Ben said, like I said, there are challenges, like I said, even with -- like we talked about with the live performance, again, the credit quality of the tenant, where do -- where are the escalators at? It's a combination of what Ben and his team put together to what we think is the overall risk reward of that. But as he said, yes, the bar is a little higher on an unproven asset. So we kind of get some level of support to rationalize where that is.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mitch Germain with Citizens Bank.

Mitch Germain

I know you guys talked about declining theater exposure. And I'm curious if there is a thought around maybe capitalizing on some of the momentum and pursuing asset sales on some of your portfolio? Or is that decline just going to be through your deployment into other sectors?

Gregory Silvers

Yes. I think, Mitch, it's a good question. I think it would be open to both. I think let's -- from a data standpoint, I think there are some things that are very positive going on. We just -- in the last quarter, we got messaging of one of our net lease peers has bought a theater in a build-to-suit theater for Cinemark below 8 cap. So yes, that's an encouraging data point and to see other net lease peers starting to tip their toe back into the water. That's exciting. So that may create an opportunity for us.

As we've talked about in that space, we have two large master leases, which -- with Regal and AMC, which means we wouldn't want to break those. But to do that, we have to be a rather large transaction. But we are -- it is not we're not opposed to selling theaters. We actively look at it. We need to get value for what we thought. And like I said, when we're starting to see 8 or below 8, it's beginning to get quite interesting in how we can redeploy capital. But we'll just have to see how that plays out.

Mitch Germain

That's helpful. And maybe just one last one for Mark. Obviously, you guys increased your percentage rent in Regal in the most recent guidance. I'm just curious, without asking for specific commentary on the forward outlook, is there anything that you would consider to be somewhat onetime in nature that's in that number that we need to consider thinking about 2027?

Mark Peterson

Not really. There was one time in '25, but not really in '26. And we do expect box office to be higher next year than this year. So we would expect Regal percentage rents to go up next year. So without getting too specific, we do expect an increase in percentage rents in '27.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith with UBS.

Anna O'Neil

This is Anna on for Michael. Just I was wondering if you could help us understand how much of the guidance increase was driven by 3Q outperformance? And then I guess, sort of relatedly, maybe the variables that would push you towards the low end versus the high end of this updated guidance?

Mark Peterson

Yes. I mean this quarter was a little bit higher, some of which was timing, some of which was performance. It's probably easier to look at what drives the full year guidance than trying to identify the quarter. And if you look at the full year guidance, we're up $0.04, a little over $0.03 of that is percentage rents. As you saw, we increased our other income and other expense, and that net is $1 million higher than it used to be, primarily driven by theater performance on the operating side. And then going the other way, G&A guidance was up $0.5 million, so call it $0.05. That's really the drivers of the $0.04 increase for the year. And like I said, some of that's outperformance from Q3, but some of that was that timing of percentage rents Q3 to Q4. So I think it's really better to look at full year is a lot easier to understand.

Operator

Our last question comes from Jana Galan with Bank of America Securities.

Jana Galan

Congrats on a great quarter. Mark, thank you for highlighting the maintenance CapEx change in AFFO. I believe in the up, you also changed the top tenant contributions from percent of revenue to percent of ABR. I'm just wondering if there's anything to highlight on ground leases there or if this was just to be more comparable with peers who report on ABR? And if there's any other kind of changes you made in terms of the presentation?

Mark Peterson

Really, you're right. We split from total revenue to ABR. Total revenue has straight-line rent and so forth, and we thought a much better representation of sort of cash rents was to use ABR, and that's more consistent with what peers show. So you're right, we did make that change -- it didn't significantly change the lineup in terms of percentages and so forth, but that was a change we made in terms of the sub. And we've kind of moved to more of an ABR than a GAAP revenue type presentation.

With respect to AFFO, we did some work looking at peers and noted that most of our peers, the vast majority do not subtract maintenance CapEx from AFFO. So we made that change. And then to make sure everyone understood, recast prior periods and so forth, it didn't really have a whole lot of impact on growth. It's fairly immaterial. But we do think to be more consistent with the peer group, that made a lot of sense. It does affect -- it does reduce our payout ratio a little bit, but that's the right way to look at it on a comparative basis to our peer set. And it has mildly increases AFFO, as I mentioned, sort of on a near material basis. But those were the two changes we thought were good changes that we made this quarter.

Operator

There are no more questions. So I will now turn the call back over to Greg Silvers, Chairman and CEO, for any closing remarks.

Gregory Silvers

I just want to say thank you to everyone. I hope everyone has a great balance of the year, and we look forward to talking to you in the new year. Thanks, everyone.

Operator

Thank you for joining EPR Properties Q3 2026 Earnings Call. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.