DMC Global (BOOM) 2026财年第三季度业绩电话会:销售额增长14%,积压订单增长
DMC Global2026财年第三季度综合销售额达1.728亿美元,同比增长14%,得益于Arcadia与NobelClad的增长。扣除关税退款后,调整后EBITDA为1360万美元,同比增长59%。自由现金流增至1660万美元,净负债降至1370万美元,创历史新低。管理层预计第四季度销售额为1.54亿至1.64亿美元,调整后EBITDA为1000万至1300万美元。需关注高利率对建筑活动的拖累及国际供应链风险。
核心要点
- 2026财年第三季度综合销售额达1.728亿美元,同比增长14%,环比增长10%,得益于Arcadia和NobelClad的增长。
- 归属于DMC的列报EBITDA为1900万美元,其中包括540万美元的DynaEnergetics关税退款。扣除这些退款后,归属于DMC的调整后EBITDA为1360万美元,同比增长59%,环比增长48%。
- Arcadia销售额同比增长25%,环比增长14%,反映出商业铝型材及高端住宅门窗销售强劲。
- NobelClad销售额同比增长38%,环比增长30%。其积压订单增至7240万美元,其中包括创季度纪录的1600万美元美国海军舰艇建造相关订单。
- 自由现金流改善至1660万美元,而净负债降至1370万美元,创下自2021年12月收购Arcadia以来的最低水平。
- 管理层指引第四季度销售额为1.54亿至1.64亿美元,归属于DMC的调整后EBITDA为1000万至1300万美元。
核心财务数据
| 指标 | 2026财年第三季度业绩 | 变动或背景 |
|---|---|---|
| 综合销售额 | 1.728亿美元 | 同比增长14%,环比增长10% |
| 归属于 DMC 的报告 EBITDA | 1900 万美元 | 包含 540 万美元关税退款 |
| 归属于 DMC 的调整后 EBITDA(不含关税退款) | 1360 万美元 | 同比增长 59%,环比增长 48% |
| 归属于 DMC 的调整后净利润 | 980 万美元 | 摊薄后每股收益 0.48 美元;包含关税退款 |
| 销售、一般及管理费用 | 2750 万美元 | 占销售额的 15.9%,去年同期为 17.1% |
| 自由现金流 | 1660 万美元 | 得益于盈利能力提升、营运资金更加稳定以及关税退款 |
| 现金及现金等价物 | 3800 万美元 | 季度末余额 |
| 净负债 | 1370 万美元 | 低于 2026 年第二季度末的 3050 万美元和 2025 年年末的 1870 万美元 |
业务与经营业绩
Arcadia
Arcadia 的销售额同比增长 25%,且 环比增长 14%。归属于 DMC 的调整后 EBITDA 同比增长 32%,且 环比增长 23%。
未分配非控制性权益前的调整后 EBITDA 利润率 提升至 14.7%,高于去年同期的 13.8% 以及第二季度的 13.6%。销量增加改善了商业、住宅及商业室内产品的固定成本吸收。
管理层将这一改善归因于短周期业务中更高的服务水平和产品供应能力、更强劲的高端住宅需求,以及洛杉矶的一个大型长周期项目。公司认为其已收复 2023 年失去的大部分当地短周期市场份额,尽管进一步的增长现在可能面临边际收益递减。
短周期商业产品约占 Arcadia 销售额的 50%,长周期产品约占 25%,住宅产品约占 15%,其余来自 Wilson 室内装潢业务。
DynaEnergetics
DynaEnergetics 的销售额同比和环比均基本持平。调整后 EBITDA 为 1190 万美元,包括540万美元的关税退税。
扣除退税后,调整后EBITDA同比增长34%,环比增长57%;调整后EBITDA利润率升至9.7%,高于上年同期的7.1%以及第二季度的6.2%。成本节约、产品设计和采购举措、有利的销售组合,以及国防和增强型地热应用带来的早期贡献,共同支撑了盈利能力。
国防业务在本季度的贡献约为75万美元。管理层强调,该业务机会仍处于非常早期的阶段,未纳入第四季度业绩指引。
NobelClad
NobelClad销售额同比增长38%,环比增长30%。调整后EBITDA同比增长120%,环比增长51%;利润率升至15.9%,高于上年同期的9.9%以及第二季度的13.7%。
业绩受益于与创纪录石化订单相关的出货,以及影响某大型国防订单的供应链问题的解决。手头订单达到7240万美元,高于6350万美元(截至第二季度末),受能源、工程木材和国防预订量的支撑。
管理层业绩指引
DMC Global 预计 2026 财年第四季度销售额为 1.54亿至1.64亿美元,归属于 DMC 的调整后 EBITDA 为 1000万至1300万美元。
管理层预计,Arcadia 业务将出现正常的季节性放缓,大型长周期项目减少,且 12 月底计划关停加利福尼亚阳极氧化设施两周也将带来出货压力。Arcadia 计划在检修期前增加库存,以支持客户需求。
对于 DynaEnergetics,业绩指引假设其在美国核心市场的完井作业保持稳定。管理层预计成本优化带来的效益将足以抵消更高的投入成本。NobelClad 的出货活动预计将继续改善。
风险与关注领域
- 高利率继续拖累建筑活动,尤其是规模较大、周期较长的商业项目。
- 铝原材料成本波动和劳动力紧张依然对 Arcadia 及其客户构成压力。
- 第四季度展望假设与中东冲突相关的国际供应链中断不会加剧,此类中断可能会对 DynaEnergetics 和 NobelClad 产生影响。
- 业绩指引对 DMC Global 核心能源及建筑市场的宏观经济状况依然敏感。
- DynaEnergetics 的国防业务机遇仍需取得资质,管理层认为目前对其进行量化或纳入业绩指引还为时过早。
分析师问答环节亮点
- 国防业务多元化:管理层表示,DynaEnergetics 正在评估其集成系统和雷管技术在空中及海上无人机中的应用。该业务前景看好,但仍处于非常早期的资质认证阶段。
- DynaEnergetics 利润率:管理层认为当前的基础盈利能力具备可持续性,但如果业务量保持稳定,预计利润率不会再出现阶梯式提升。采购端可能会实现额外的成本节省,而业务量的增长将主要推动绝对利润额的提升。
- Arcadia 市场份额:管理层认为,Arcadia 通过恢复服务水平、产品供应和客户支持,已收复了 2023 年失去的大部分短周期市场份额。
- Arcadia 需求结构:短周期商业业务的利润率高于部分长周期项目。高端住宅需求依然保持相对韧性,但产能以及项目的多年期特性限制了近期扩张。
- 加州设施维护:Arcadia 的阳极氧化设施预计将于 12 月底停产检修约两周,尽管已提前做好库存准备,但仍将对第四季度的出货量造成一定压力。
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管理层陈述
Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the DMC Global Third Quarter Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Geoff High, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Geoff High
Hello, and welcome to DMC's third quarter conference call. Presenting today are President and CEO, Jim O'Leary; and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Walter.
I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed during this call may include forward-looking statements that are based on our estimates, projections and assumptions as of today's date and are subject to risks and uncertainties that are disclosed in our filings with the SEC. Our business is subject to certain risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in our forward-looking statements. DMC assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements that become untrue because of subsequent events.
Today's earnings release and a related presentation on our third quarter performance are available on the Investors page of our website located at dmcglobal.com. A webcast replay of today's presentation will be available on our website shortly after the conclusion of this call.
And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jim O'Leary. Jim?
James O'Leary
Thanks, Geoff, and thanks to everyone for joining us. Today, we reported significantly improved financial results for the third quarter with both sales and adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC well above year ago levels and comfortably above the high end of our guidance. These results were driven by initiatives implemented over the past 2 years to improve the performance of our businesses despite continued uncertainty and highly challenging end market conditions.
Consolidated third quarter sales were $172.8 million, a 14% increase versus last year's third quarter and a 10% sequential improvement. Reported EBITDA attributable to DMC was $19 million, which included $5.4 million of tariff refunds at DynaEnergetics. Excluding tariff refunds, adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC was $13.6 million, a 59% increase versus the year ago third quarter and 48% above the prior quarter. Sales at Arcadia, our Building Products business, were up 25% year-over-year and up 14% sequentially. Adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC increased 32% versus the year ago quarter and was up 23% sequentially.
This improvement was driven by higher sales of commercial aluminum framing products and high-end residential doors and windows. Arcadia's improved performance reflects its renewed focus on service levels and product availability in its short-cycle operations. Arcadia also benefited from higher residential sales and a large prestigious long-cycle project in Los Angeles during the quarter. These efforts offset still difficult market conditions and included elevated interest rates and materially higher aluminum costs, which continued to negatively impact larger longer-cycle commercial projects. However, we believe we have recently regained local market share in our key short-cycle operations due to the focused initiatives just discussed.
DynaEnergetics, our energy products business, delivered improved third quarter profitability on relatively flat year-over-year and sequential sales. Adjusted EBITDA was $11.9 million during the quarter, which included $5.4 million of tariff refunds. Excluding these refunds, adjusted EBITDA increased 34% versus last year's third quarter and was up 57% sequentially. The improvement was driven by cost-saving initiatives and a favorable sales mix that reflects Dyna's ongoing market diversification efforts with early contributions from the defense and enhanced geothermal sectors. Sales at NobelClad, our composite metals business, increased 38% year-over-year and 30% sequentially. Adjusted EBITDA increased 120% year-over-year and was up 51% sequentially.
NobelClad's improved performance resulted from increased shipments related to a record petrochemical order and the resolution of supply chain issues that had delayed shipments on a large defense order. Order activity was healthy during the quarter with significant new bookings from the energy, engineered wood and defense sectors. NobelClad ended the third quarter with an order backlog of $72.4 million, up from $63.5 million at the end of the second quarter. This included a quarterly record $16 million in orders related to U.S. Navy vessel construction.
Now I'll turn the call over to Eric for a closer look at our third quarter financial performance and our fourth quarter guidance. Eric?
Eric Walter
Thanks, Jim. I'll start with a review of our third quarter profitability. At Arcadia, adjusted EBITDA margin before NCI allocation was 14.7%, up from 13.8% in the year ago quarter and 13.6% in the second quarter. The EBITDA margin improvement principally reflects higher sales volumes across our commercial, residential and commercial interior product offerings, which resulted in improved fixed cost absorption. Excluding tariff refunds, DynaEnergetics adjusted EBITDA margin was 9.7%, up from 7.1% in last year's third quarter and up from 6.2% in this year's second quarter.
The improvements reflect the implementation of cost savings initiatives, a more favorable sales mix and a higher margin contribution from new end markets. NobelClad reported adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.9%, up from 9.9% in the year ago third quarter and 13.7% in the second quarter. The improvement was principally attributable to higher gross profit and lower SG&A. Third quarter SG&A expense was $27.5 million or 15.9% of sales versus 17.1% of sales in the prior third quarter and 15.6% in the second quarter.
Third quarter adjusted net income attributable to DMC, inclusive of tariff refunds, was $9.8 million or $0.48 per diluted share. With respect to liquidity, we ended the third quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $38 million. Net debt improved to $13.7 million, down from $18.7 million at our 2025 year-end and down from $30.5 million at the end of the second quarter. The decrease was primarily due to improved free cash flow of $16.6 million during the quarter from better profitability across our businesses, more stable working capital needs and the receipt of tariff refunds.
Now turning to guidance for the fourth quarter. We expect sales will be in a range of $154 million to $164 million. Adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC is expected in the range of $10 million to $13 million. Our guidance reflects normal seasonal moderation in Arcadia, which will be further impacted by a temporary shutdown of our California finishing facility for planned maintenance, an expected decline in large, long-cycle project activity, the negative impact of still rising interest rates on construction activity, ongoing volatility in aluminum input costs and continued tight labor conditions for commercial and residential builders. Our guidance also assumes steady well completion in DynaEnergetics' core U.S. end market with the benefit from previously discussed cost optimization programs more than offsetting input cost increases.
Finally, our guidance assumes continued improvement in shipping activity at NobelClad. Our guidance does not contemplate increased disruptions in international supply chains due to ongoing hostilities in the Middle East, which could impact both DynaEnergetics and NobelClad, or generally weaker end market conditions. Moreover, our guidance remains highly dependent on macroeconomic conditions, particularly within our core energy and construction markets, and may change either positively or negatively as these factors evolve throughout the remainder of 2026.
And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim.
James O'Leary
Thanks, Eric. During the third quarter, we made progress on the cost-saving measures and targeted commercial initiatives implemented over the past several quarters despite continued economic headwinds in our core energy and construction markets. We believe our businesses are well positioned to capitalize when our end markets improve. We also now have continued to strengthen our financial position with net debt now at the lowest level since the Arcadia acquisition in December 2021.
I'd like to thank our associates across the company for their hard work and continued dedication during the past quarter and over several challenging years. And with that, we'd be happy to take your questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Gerry Sweeney with ROTH Capital Partners.
分析师问答
Gerard Sweeney
I wanted to talk about the defense side. Obviously, that's a word I think that's first time it has come up in -- at least in the press releases. But on the defense side, you have your shaped charge business or technology and manufacturing as well as your detonator business. And I've seen some news out there, specifically like Teledyne Energetics getting some orders for, I guess, charges, specifically for drones. And that's an emerging opportunity. We have drone dominance, et cetera. Can you give a little bit more detail as to, maybe, what's going on, on this front, the opportunity? I know it's early stages, but maybe frame it out in any way possible.
James O'Leary
Sure. I'm glad you asked. And if you don't mind, at the risk of filibustering a little bit, we'll give you the background and why we thought it was worth mentioning. Only thing, not to correct you, but we have been talking about defense pretty extensively in NobelClad. But you're right, first time we mentioned it at DynaEnergetics -- no apologies necessary. But -- so we have been spending a lot of time turning over stones, looking at capabilities, all under the auspices of diversification.
And as you know and most of our shareholders know, in the perforation segment, we're one of the more -- in fact, I think we're one of the few fully integrated manufacturers of systems. And when we looked at where we would have other applications, geothermal is one, which we've talked about and defense, particularly, and you're right, it's the detonators, it's for drones. It's less for people like Teledyne or some of the established primes than it is for something that there's an article every single day in one of the mainstream newspapers. I think there's one today on -- in the Wall Street Journal about unconventional warfare, drones, both aerial and maritime drones.
And that is something that we think we have some unique capabilities for. They are not perfect. They don't fit like hand in glove yet, but it has been worth us spending the time. And the reason we mentioned it, particularly in Dyna, is it actually wasn't a small number. It wasn't material the way you think about it in the 10-Q, 10-K aspect. But it was about $0.75 million. And we thought we should call it out for 2 reasons. Number one, when you're doing your modeling, I back your margins off a little bit. It was -- this was kind of a bluebird that flew in the window. So when you kind of extrapolate the margins for DynaEnergetics, 50 to 100 basis points, I bring them down a little bit because we don't have anything in the guidance for defense. And we're really debating whether or not we put anything in the budget for next year, which obviously, we'll talk about quarter-to-quarter when we're into 2027.
But the reason we thought it was worth mentioning, number one, we don't want you modeling it and coming up with a number that's going to make you look silly at the end of the day. And this is more -- you've been around this company and the stock a lot longer than I have. When you look at the history of DMC Global, both for DynaEnergetics and NobelClad, every couple of years, something comes up out of the blue where it could end up being meaningful. We don't want people to be surprised to think we're working on things and we don't leave any breadcrumbs or Easter eggs around.
When you look at the history of Dyna, with DynaStage, NobelClad has many of these, if you go back a decade or so, where our applications and our capabilities are so unique and eclectic. Every now and then something comes out of the blue, and it's a real positive surprise. We've had a lot of negative surprises in the last couple of years. So we thought we should call out one of the positive surprises. Again, nothing that we can scope, nothing that we can give you the hard numbers on. But again, it was meaningful enough where we don't want it distorting your guidance, and we're excited about it. It's just -- you said it's early. We're not even in the second half of the first inning. So it's very early, but we're working hard at it.
And the one thing we called out specifically the NobelClad backlog for our applications in naval, particularly submarines, the backlog we've got there is meaningful. And the only thing that keeps it from being bigger, and again, it's not a next quarter or hopefully, it is a next year thing, but still too early. Between the Hanwha Yard in Philadelphia, the Anduril investment in Maryland, the first 2 meaningful investments in naval capabilities as far as building submarines and ships have been in the last 2 years. So that's one is probably more tangible and we're equally excited about. But hopefully, we can turn these opportunities into something meaningful for our investors.
Gerard Sweeney
Yes. Just on that front, I mean, just my understanding of just the detonator side, you have a lot of technology around not only setting off the detonator, is not only a charge but a software code. So -- and that's patented, and I think that's kind of unique. And I know you said it doesn't fit hand in glove, but my sense is there's a unique application with your DynaSelect detonator that may not necessarily be out there in the market as well. Is that a fair assumption?
James O'Leary
Yes. And I have a -- I don't want to say a huge amount, but I have a lot of experience from a former life with being a defense contractor. It does take a while to get qualified. Even though the Department of War puts out something every day and talks actively about accelerating the system, making the process go faster. And it is definitely happening in some of these unconventional applications, particularly drones. It hasn't happened yet. So we don't want to get ahead of our skis. But what we're doing is -- what we're trying to do is find applications for our capabilities that would unquestionably be a win-win.
Gerard Sweeney
Got it. I appreciate that. And then just switching gears real quick to Arcadia and I'll jump back in line. Obviously, it sounds like you've taken some share back, especially in the short-cycle business. The longer cycle is maybe a little bit more constrained for the reasons you mentioned. Just curious, 2 things. One, is there some more share to be taken? Or are we back to where you should be? And then just separately, any update on Pacific Palisades, maybe an opportunity as that develops more building permits are put in place?
James O'Leary
So I think we've either regained most of the share we probably lost in 2023, fast forward up to when Jim Schladen came back, or if we haven't regained most of it, it's probably at the point of diminishing returns now. For the first couple of quarters, Jim was probably a bit frustrated. It took a little longer than he expected. He brought back a lot of his teammates who had left or kind of wandered off the reservation for over a period of a couple of quarters when we made personnel changes that, with the benefit of hindsight, we probably shouldn't have made. So I think we've got the early returns. There's probably -- if there is a little bit more, it really is just a little bit more. But hey, I mean, that's something, and it gets us back to a run rate that we're comfortable with outside of the broader economy.
On the broader economy, we're not expecting permits to pick up. We're not expecting any robust jump start to the construction economy. And I'll tell you, it's truly, truly terrible out there. It's definitely the worst I've seen since 2008 and '09, as long as interest rates are where they are, which is still at -- I'm not sure if it's 20- or 30-year highs right now. It's tough sledding, and we're just going to have to keep at it. Besides the local market share regaining, we are doing pretty well on the residential side, where most of those are cash purchases, very little influenced by interest rates.
The constraint there is production constraints. There's only so much we can get through our factory right now. And the type of buyer who [ are ] there, they're typically multiyear projects, not tract building where you're banging them out every month or every quarter. And locally, there are a lot of improvement opportunities in adjacent markets. We're looking at, are there any satellites or any other opportunities that we haven't pursued in the last few years that Jim had on his to-do list back in 2021. So there's a couple of things like that, but those are longer term, meaning a few quarters, maybe a year or 2 out initiatives that we're pursuing.
Gerard Sweeney
Got it. All right. Well, congrats. Nice quarter. Even if it was a bluebird, I'll take it any day of the week.
James O'Leary
Sometimes you see one bluebird and the whole flock is right behind it.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Ken Newman with KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Kenneth Newman
Maybe for the first one, I think if my math is right, it looks like gross margins for Dyna were around 18% after backing out the tariff refund in the quarter. Obviously, it sounds like, Jim, you mentioned there's some moving pieces in that business just given the defense wins you talked about earlier. But I'm curious if there's a way to think about whether those segment margins could see another sequential increase in the fourth quarter if the volumes remain stable quarter-over-quarter? Really, I'm just trying to level set about how much more opportunity for margin outperformance on the cost optimization program is left?
James O'Leary
So I think about it more in terms of absolute dollars. I think they're sustainable. I wouldn't expect them to be scalable or to have another step function up. Most of the cost savings came from 2 buckets, one being product design and the other one being sourcing initiatives. There's probably a little bit more juice in the sourcing lemon to squeeze. We're always looking, at or at least more aggressively looking at additional product design. But those are -- the unit economics there are the more you sell, you're going to get more absolute dollars, but the margins don't ramp up.
We do have some improvement, we think, but it's not -- or it shouldn't be the type of step function up, and we wouldn't want you thinking that's going to be there when you're doing your modeling. If volume did go up -- and remember, volume was actually down this quarter, particularly in the Americas. And despite all the talk and all the consternation about the Middle East, with all the strategic reserves depleted, is there going to be a big wave of production increases? If that happens, we're very well positioned. Supply is pretty tight. But right now, volumes, even though rig count and spreads are up, they're only up between 5% and 10%.
It depends on which was the last call you listened to, whether it was Halliburton, Liberty, somebody else. The numbers are kind of up and down and it averages out to about 5% to 10% up. We were actually down, and that's not -- it's really not a loss of market share or a loss of wallet share. It just who we happen to sell during the quarter on what's still -- rig count is still only around 600. So if volume really took up, there'd be the volume benefit from gross margins. But if volumes stayed the same, I think you should expect it to be about the same as this quarter.
Kenneth Newman
Understood. That's really helpful. Maybe switching gears. You mentioned this -- the expectation for a seasonal moderation in Arcadia with this temporary shutdown in California. Can you just talk a little bit about what this maintenance shutdown actually is? And is there a way to size up just what you're expecting there from the shutdown? How long does that take? How much of the volumes kind of go through that facility?
Eric Walter
Yes. Ken, this is Eric. There are kind of 2 things going on there. One is just the seasonality of it. There's just less construction activity that's going on with our customers. So we would normally see the revenue start to trail off, particularly in November and December because of the holidays and the weather. But to your question around the maintenance, we have one of our anodizing facilities where we're going to be going through and doing some maintenance on that. We think that, that facility is going to be down for probably 2 weeks at the end of September -- or sorry, end of December. And when it's down, obviously, we won't be able to produce anything. We're going to build a little bit of inventory in the quarter to try to service customers. But we think overall, it will put some pressure on getting shipments out. And so that's why we're guiding to a little softer top line performance from Arcadia on a quarter-over-quarter basis.
Kenneth Newman
Understood. Okay. That's helpful. Maybe if I could just squeeze one last one in, just a quick one. It was helpful for the color on the short-cycle demand versus the longer cycle mix in Arcadia. Can you just -- can you remind us like where -- how large is the mix of the shorter-cycle commercial high-end nonresi side kind of trending nowadays? And then maybe just an add-on to the earlier question on how you think that mix continues to shift in the next couple of quarters?
Eric Walter
Yes. When you look at the revenues for Arcadia, the short-cycle commercial business is roughly half of that. So this would be stock length sales, it would be doors, but typically smaller projects where we would provide the product, ship it out within 4 to 6 weeks. The long-cycle part of the business would be roughly 25% of Arcadia sales. And then the residential 15% and the balance would be what we call Wilson, the interiors business.
The short-cycle business, not only is it a considerable part of the revenues, but it tends to have higher margins than some of the long-cycle business. The short-cycle business is something that typically goes through an RFP like the longer bigger projects. And so those customers, when Jim was talking about winning back some business and we think that we're taking back some market share, it's really with those customers. And so we've reestablished our service levels, product availability and have the customer support staff in place so that we can better service that customer and win back some business that we had lost in the prior year.
James O'Leary
It's really kudos to the Arcadia team because they came in, it was a little challenging. They stabilized it, and they got it moving in the right direction. I do think we're at the point of diminishing returns. But if we did lose something, it's good to get it back, and it's good to regain the trust of our customers, which, quite frankly, Arcadia was built on that.
Operator
Thank you. And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. Therefore, I'd like to turn the call back over to Jim O'Leary for closing remarks.
James O'Leary
Sonali, thank you very much. And to employees who have been working unbelievably hard the last couple of quarters, the last couple of years and some of our longest-serving shareholders who've hung in there. Thank you very much. We will talk to you next quarter. And with that, Sonali, it is a wrap.
Operator
Thank you. And this does conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.
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