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雅达金属包装 (AMBP) 2026财年第三季度业绩电话会:上调EBITDA指引

TradingKey2026年10月22日 20:01
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全球饮料罐出货量同比增长2%,欧洲地区表现强劲,带动第三季度调整后EBITDA超预期达2.13亿美元。基于此,管理层将全年调整后EBITDA指引上调至7.85亿至7.95亿美元。为应对欧洲紧张的产能,AMP计划加速并扩大英国和西班牙工厂的投资,预计2027年增长性资本支出将增至约2.5亿美元。尽管面临油价挂钩的涂料成本及能源通胀压力,但得益于成本传导机制、套期保值以及积极的组合管理,整体需求依然保持韧性。

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核心要点

  • 全球饮料罐出货量同比增长2%,其中欧洲地区增长6%,但被美洲地区下降1%部分抵消。
  • 2026财年第三季度调整后EBITDA为2.13亿美元,超过管理层指引,主要得益于欧洲出货量的增长以及北美有利的产品品类组合。
  • 管理层将2026财年全年调整后EBITDA指引上调至7.85亿至7.95亿美元。
  • 欧洲地区营收增长11%至6.93亿美元,调整后EBITDA增长11%至9100万美元。管理层预计2026财年全年欧洲出货量将实现至少约3%的增长。
  • AMP将加速并扩大在英国和西班牙现有工厂的新易拉罐生产线投资。预计增长性资本支出将从2026财年的9000万美元增至2027财年的约2.5亿美元。
  • 截至季末,流动性总额为7.36亿美元;净杠杆率为过去12个月调整后EBITDA的5.1倍,而上年同期为5.2倍。

关键财务数据

指标2026财年第三季度业绩同比变化 / 背景
全球饮料罐出货量—增长2%
调整后EBITDA2.13亿美元高于管理层指引
欧洲地区营收6.93亿美元增长11%;按固定汇率计算增长12%
欧洲地区调整后EBITDA9100万美元按列报及固定汇率计算均增长11%
欧洲地区出货量—增长6%
美洲地区营收约10亿美元增长25%,主要源于投入成本传导
美洲地区调整后EBITDA1.22亿美元下降3%
美洲地区出货量—下降1%
流动性7.36亿美元期末状况
净杠杆率5.1倍相比2025财年第三季度的5.2倍
季度普通股股息每股0.10美元保持不变

业务与运营表现

欧洲是出货量增长的主要驱动力。受碳酸软饮料、功能饮料及规模较小的增长品类提振,出货量增长了6%。啤酒出货量因年初实施的合同重新设定而略有下降。

欧洲调整后EBITDA得益于出货量增长和投入成本回收率提高。但这些收益被IFRS 15合同资产影响以及运营和管理维系成本的适度增加所部分抵消。

欧洲产能依然紧张。在客户承诺的支撑下,AMP计划在英国和西班牙的现有工厂建设两条易拉罐生产线。管理层预计这些项目将从2028年起显著推动欧洲地区调整后EBITDA的增长。

在北美市场,出货量下降不足1%,较上半年环比有所改善。合同重新设定的压力在很大程度上被AMP的客户组合及有利的特种罐产品结构所抵消。管理层强调,功能饮料、碳酸软饮料和新兴的大健康饮料品类持续强劲,而AMP在较为疲软的啤酒品类中的业务敞口仅为低个位数百分比。

巴西出货量因客户结构和合同重新设定而下降5%。随着市场进入更繁忙的夏季旺季,管理层预计第四季度出货量将实现温和增长。公司继续将从可回收玻璃瓶向一次性包装(主要是易拉罐)的转变视为长期的市场驱动力。

管理层业绩指引

AMP将2026财年全年调整后EBITDA指引上调至7.85亿至7.95亿美元。

对于2026财年全年,管理层预计欧洲出货量增长将至少达到约3%的目标。公司继续预计总资本支出为2.4亿美元,现金利息支出为2.2亿美元,租赁本金偿还额约为1.2亿美元,现金税负约为3000万美元,并有少量的营运资金流出。

对于2027财年,管理层提供了初步的方向性预期,而非正式指引:

  • 随着AMP利用其剩余的可用产能,欧洲出货量预计增长3%–4%。
  • 在组合结构和合同收益的支撑下,北美出货量增长预计至少与行业持平。
  • 鉴于市场波动及此前的合同重新设定,巴西出货量预计将实现温和增长。
  • 受出货量增长、成本传导机制及运营改善的支撑,按固定汇率计算,调整后EBITDA预计将实现同比温和增长。
  • 增长性资本支出约为2.5亿美元,之后将在2028年恢复至更常态化的水平。

AMP表示,已对2027年欧洲能源需求的80%以上进行了套期保值,2028年已对70%以上进行了套期保值。

风险与关注事项

  • 与原油挂钩的涂料成本上涨正带来额外的通胀压力。涂料占销售成本的比例为个位数百分比,但管理层表示最近的成本上涨较为显著。
  • 运费和欧洲能源成本也构成不利因素,不过AMP拥有合同成本传导机制和能源套期保值保护。
  • 第四季度面临外汇压力、通货膨胀以及与2025财年第四季度的高基数对比,当时全球出货量增长4%,北美出货量增长8%。
  • 巴西市场依然波动,AMP的出货量继续受到客户合同重新设定的影响。
  • AMP的下一笔债务将于2028年到期。管理层预计,若当前市场状况持续,再融资成本将更高。
  • Ardagh Holdings对AMP的潜在出售流程仍在进行中。管理层表示,运营及产能投资决策独立于该流程。

分析师问答环节要点

管理层表示,通货膨胀并未对饮料罐需求产生明显的负面影响。管理层认为,在通胀时期,非即饮(off-trade)渠道消费仍能保持韧性,并指出功能饮料、碳酸软饮料和新型饮料品类持续增长。

产能方面,管理层预计,尽管AMP和竞争对手宣布了扩产,欧洲产能至少在未来两到三年内仍将保持紧张。北美的特定规格和区域产能也在趋紧,不过在合同重新设定之后,AMP目前拥有增长空间。

管理层将2027年描述为合同续约率低于平均水平的一年。在欧洲,随着新产能的增加,客户正寻求锁定未来供货量,这使AMP对2027年、2028年及未来的合同确定性更高。

为抵消通胀,AMP正在推进易拉罐轻量化、降低损耗率、提高工厂效率、节省采购成本以及控制销售及管理费用(SG&A)。预计客户定价机制将回收部分成本压力,尽管管理层预计2027年仍会有一些残留影响。

业绩电话会议完整文字记录


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管理层陈述

Operator

Welcome to the Ardagh Metal Packaging S.A. Q3 2026 Investor Call. Today's conference is being recorded.

At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Stephen Lyons, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Stephen Lyons

Thank you, operator, and welcome, everybody. Thank you for joining today for Ardagh Metal Packaging's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call, which follows the earlier publication of AMP's earnings release for the third quarter.

I'm joined today by Oliver Graham, AMP's Chief Executive Officer; and Stefan Schellinger, AMP's Chief Financial Officer.

Before moving to your questions, we will first provide some introductory remarks around AMP's performance and outlook. AMP's earnings release and related materials for the third quarter can be found on AMP's website at ir.ardaghmetalpackaging.com.

Remarks today will include certain forward-looking statements and include use of non-IFRS financial measures. Actual results could vary materially from such statements. Please review the details of AMP's forward-looking statements disclaimer and reconciliation of non-IFRS financial measures to IFRS financial measures in AMP's earnings release.

I will now turn the call over to Oliver Graham.

Oliver Graham

Thanks, Stephen. We delivered a strong performance in the third quarter with growth in global shipments and adjusted EBITDA ahead of our guidance. Beverage can shipments increased by 2%, driven by strong growth in Europe of 6%, partly offset by a decline of 1% in the Americas, which represented a sequential quarterly improvement, supported by the strength of our customer portfolio.

Our adjusted EBITDA outperformance in the quarter reflected good results in both segments. Europe continued to benefit from robust volume growth, and the Americas was supported by a favorable category mix in North America, compensating for the expected volume reductions from the previously discussed contract resets.

Beverage can industry demand remains resilient across each of our markets, driven by strength in key categories and continued share gains in the packaging mix. Given this demand strength, we are pleased to announce that we are accelerating and upscaling our previously outlined investments in Europe to capture this growth and to support our customers by building 2 new can lines in existing facilities in the attractive markets of the U.K. and Spain.

Before we discuss the quarter in more detail, I'd like to address developments regarding the AMP sale process. On August 13, Ardagh Holdings, AMP's controlling shareholder, announced that advisers have been appointed to prepare for a potential sale of AMP, and this process is ongoing. We will not be taking any questions on the topic on this call. Our focus remains on driving AMP's operational and financial performance.

Now looking at AMP's Q3 results by segment. In Europe, third quarter revenue increased by 11% to $693 million or by 12% on a constant currency basis compared with the same period in 2025. This was due to the pass-through of higher input costs and volume growth. Shipments increased by 6% for the quarter, which reflected underlying growth across all categories.

We experienced strong growth in carbonated soft drinks and in the energy category, as well across our diverse range of smaller growing categories. Reported beer volumes declined slightly versus the prior year quarter, reflecting certain contract resets at the beginning of the year, while industry beer volumes filled in cans showed good growth in our main markets.

Third quarter adjusted EBITDA in Europe increased by 11% to $91 million versus the prior year on both a reported and a constant currency basis. Adjusted EBITDA growth was mainly driven by a higher input cost recovery and strong volume growth, partly offset by the impact of the IFRS 15 contract asset as well as slightly higher operations and overhead costs.

Regarding our direct energy exposure in Europe, AMP is well covered for its energy needs. For 2027, we're over 80% hedged, and we're over 70% covered for 2028. From our analysis of beverage industry scanner data by packaging type for the third quarter, we see strong overall beverage consumption trends in key categories as well as a continued share gain for the beverage can in the pack mix, particularly in CSD.

For full year 2026, following strong commercial momentum during the summer and with continued robust demand, we expect to at least meet our guidance for approximately 3% volume growth in Europe. Capacity remains tight in the region. And as indicated in my opening remarks, to support our customers' growth and based on their commitments, we have decided to accelerate and upsize the previously announced growth investments in Spain and in the U.K. These investments represent attractive high-return capital deployment opportunities and will drive material adjusted EBITDA growth for AMP in Europe from 2028 onwards.

As we are reaching the end of 2026, we will give some preliminary comments about 2027 before our formal guidance at our full year results. In Europe, we expect AMP to show strong volume growth in the range of 3% to 4%, in line with the industry as we go into the remainder of our available capacity.

Turning to the Americas. Revenue in the third quarter increased by 25% to approximately $1 million (sic) [ $1 billion ], principally reflecting the pass-through of higher input cost to customers, including the impact of higher metal costs and freight cost pass-through, partly offset by lower shipments. Americas adjusted EBITDA for the quarter decreased by 3% versus the prior year to $122 million as a result of lower volumes, higher operations and overhead costs as well as lower input cost recovery versus the prior year quarter, partly offset by favorable category mix, in particular, strength in specialty can volumes in North America.

In North America, shipments for the quarter were down less than 1% versus the prior year. This improved sequential shipments performance versus the first half reflects the strength of our customer portfolio, largely offsetting the expected impact of contract resets. Underlying demand dynamics in the industry remain strong with supportive year-to-date industry scanner data, apart from the beer category to which AMP has only a low single-digit exposure. In particular, the energy category continues to show strong growth, supported by broader distribution and successful innovation. Looking into 2027 in North America, as we have previously guided, we expect a return to shipments growth at least in line with the industry. This reflects our attractive portfolio mix as well as some contractual gains.

In Brazil, third quarter beverage can shipments decreased by 5% due to customer mix and a contract reset. This lagged improved industry growth in the quarter, which was driven by a strong performance from the major brewer. We are now entering the busier summer selling season in Brazil, and we anticipate an improved performance with moderate shipments growth in the fourth quarter. In terms of 2027, while we remain confident in the long-term mid-single-digit percentage growth rate for the Brazilian can market, we recognize the volatility of the market in recent years as well as our previously mentioned contractual reset, and we are expecting moderate volume growth for AMP.

I'll hand over now to Stefan to talk you through our financial position for the quarter before finishing with some concluding remarks.

Stefan Schellinger

Thanks, Ollie, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone. We ended the quarter with a robust liquidity position of $736 million. Net debt over the last 12 months adjusted EBITDA of 5.1x at quarter end compares with 5.2x for prior year's Q3. On a comparable like-for-like basis, pro forma for the Q4 2025 refinancing of the preferred shares, the net leverage ratio has reduced from 5.6x in the prior year quarter as a result of AMP's strong adjusted EBITDA growth.

Our guidance for the various free cash flow components for full year 2026 is mostly unchanged, and we approximately expect the following: total CapEx of $240 million, cash interest of $220 million, lease principal repayments of approximately $120 million, cash tax of approximately $30 million and a small outflow in working capital.

Ollie already discussed earlier our growth projects for Europe. These 2 investments will lead to an increase of total growth CapEx from $90 million in 2026 to approximately $250 million in 2027 before returning to a more normalized level in 2028. These growth investments represent very attractive capital deployment opportunities, will support AMP's and our customers' continued growth in Europe and will drive adjusted EBITDA growth in 2028 and beyond.

Finally, today, we have announced our unchanged quarterly ordinary dividend of $0.10 per share.

With that, I'll hand it back to Ollie.

Oliver Graham

Thanks, Stefan. Before moving to take your questions, I'll just recap on AMP's performance and key messages. Global volumes increased by 2% and adjusted EBITDA of $213 million in the third quarter exceeded our guidance, reflecting a strong performance in both segments. Reflecting our strong performance, we're upgrading our guidance range for 2026 full year adjusted EBITDA to be between $785 million and $795 million. Our Q4 guidance reflects current FX rates, some inflation headwinds and the quarter also lapped strong prior year shipments growth of 4%.

While not giving specific guidance for 2027, as we sit here today, the year is shaping up for a stronger global volume performance, led by a return to at least industry growth in North America volumes and continued strong European performance despite some weakness in Brazil. In terms of profitability, we are operating in a more inflationary environment, but given our robust pass-through mechanisms and our continued focus on operational improvements, together with our positive outlook for volume growth, we still expect to show moderate year-over-year adjusted EBITDA growth at constant currency.

Having made these opening remarks, we'll now proceed to take any questions that you may have.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go to our first question from Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets.

分析师问答

Arun Viswanathan

I guess I just wanted to get your thoughts on maybe 2 things. So first off, on the volume outlook. I was just curious if you guys are -- you noted some strength in many of your categories. Maybe you can just broadly comment on in the Americas, where you're seeing strength, obviously, in energy and sparkling water. But do you expect that to continue, I guess, especially in the face of increasing inflation, do your beverage customers -- do you get the sense that they're still pushing volume and promotions? Or is there a possibility that you could see some increased prices and that would impact demand?

Oliver Graham

Yes. No, I mean, I think we already have inflation in the system, and we're not seeing any particular negative impact. So I think our impression is that off-trade volumes, obviously, to some extent, do better in inflationary times because consumers pull out of -- out-of-home consumption and pull back more into the off-trade. The can is a very efficient vehicle for transporting and selling beverages. So it's very good if you want to promote. Promotional activity looks normal. So much stronger than it was in the COVID years. And so it's returned to more normal levels.

And I think we're seeing strength, as we mentioned in the remarks, particularly in the energy sector in cans. So still well north of mid-single digits, but also good strength in CSD, which is a much bigger category. So also very positive for the can and reflecting pack mix change and also certain segments of CSD growing well.

Sparkling waters has been a bit up and down. But overall, if you look back over the last few years, definitely a very positive category for the can. And then you have all the new drinks, the sort of healthy wellness drinks, the gut health drinks also in really strong growth. So yes, the only negative, if you look at North America is really beer in cans, which has been weak for a number of years now. And as we said in the remarks, we have a very low exposure to that category. So if you look at our portfolio, it's got good growth, good innovation still coming to the category.

And then Brazil, we're talking Americas, it's really still mostly beer. You have good growth in CSD and increasingly in energy drinks, but off a much smaller base. But the good news for Q3, we didn't fully participate in this, but the good news for Q3 is I think we had something like 7% growth in beer in cans, so much better, which puts a year-to-date number of 3.5% for the industry in cans. So that's a very good number back more to where we'd expect after a relatively weaker first half.

So yes, I think as we look across the world, but you asked about the Americas, I think we don't see any particular headwinds from the inflationary environment. We see a lot of positivity around can growth.

Arun Viswanathan

Okay. And if I could just ask a follow-up. I know that you're not really commenting on the sale process, but I just wanted to ask a question about some of the capacity that you have. It sounds like you are in plans of expanding your capacity. Would that be affected at all by any of the process that you're taking? And I guess, related, is there a possibility that your network could be split up and kind of owned different -- by different parties? Or is it likely that it will remain in one piece?

Oliver Graham

Yes. Look, as we said, we're not commenting on it. I think AMP is a very strong global competitor with strength in all 3 regions, and there are strong advantages to being a global competitor in the can industry as we can see from who survives and grows, but we're not commenting on the process. The capacity plans are completely independent of the process. So we're operating as an independent company with a controlling shareholder. That's how we have to keep operating at the moment. And those capacity plans are, yes, as I say, completely independent of the process.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We move next to Matt Roberts with Raymond James.

Matthew Roberts

On Brazil, I think it was still down, peers saw increases. It sounds like market was up. Any considerations by customer in 3Q? Or was that really due to that customer reset? And on the Brazil volume outlook for '27 being a little bit lower than that long-term grade -- reset versus general customer demand...

Oliver Graham

Yes, Matt, you broke up a bit, but I think we got the point, which is it's about Brazil and the general customer situation versus the contract reset. So most of this is about the contract reset. We have puts and takes with other customers, but we'd be up at or around or above even up market growth without the reset. So I think, yes, the majority of the guidance we're giving you and the explanations we're giving you for 2026 and for 2027 are linked to that.

As we said, there was a very encouraging return to growth in Q3 in Brazil. We said it in the remarks. We strongly believe it's a long-term, very positive growth market for the can. There's still very good fundamentals with the switch from 2-way glass to single-use packaging, of which can is the main packaging in Brazil. So yes, market is still very good. Ups and downs with our customer base generally. But yes, most of the impact you're seeing on our guidance and explanations for '26 and '27 is that reset.

Matthew Roberts

Hope I'm a little bit clear now, but -- maybe one other on inflation, more so on the cost side, how that tracked versus the expectations you had in July? Any variances between U.S. and Europe there or incremental impact to 4Q or spillover into 2027?

Oliver Graham

Yes, I'll start and then obviously, Stefan add if there's anything I missed. I think slightly more negative than at our Q2 just because I think at that point, oil price had dropped. There seem to be a high likelihood of a resolution to the situation in the Middle East, whereas now obviously, seems to be very frozen in terms of improvement. So yes, slightly more headwind we see going into Q4 probably and into '27, with the majority of the impact probably more European, though I think ODMs is the big category, the direct materials. We've called that out before in terms of coatings being a part of our cost structure that's most linked to oil price. So yes, that's probably the high-level view. I don't know, Stefan, if you'd add anything to that.

Stefan Schellinger

Yes. So there's a little bit on the freight side, but we have a very good recovery here and pass-through mechanisms -- there's also a little bit on the energy side, probably more so in Europe. But then again, there's the pass-through side of things, plus we have a hedging policy and are significantly covered for the year 2027 and beyond. So I think net-net, I think these are probably the key items to call out.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Josh Spector with UBS.

Joshua Spector

I had some similar questions on cost. So it might be a little bit redundant. But I guess, near term, if I look at your -- how you talked about fourth quarter, I think your volumes you're talking about up a couple of percent-ish overall. Your EBITDA guidance down about 4% to 5% at the midpoint versus you were up a couple of percent on a couple of percent volume in 2Q. So is that incremental inflation in fourth quarter? Is there something else going on in terms of some lead lag items that we should be considering?

Oliver Graham

Yes. Again, I'll kick it off and Stefan can add if necessary. But so look, I think we did say we're lapping a very strong Q4 last year. I think we had 8% growth in North America with good mix and 4% overall. But it's also true that there is some volume growth in Q4 for us. So I think there's some FX headwinds as we see, obviously, the dollar strengthening a little bit relative to the euro. There are some timing effects. We called out, I think, in our Q2 results that we had some impact in the first half of the year that would reverse out in the second half around metal timings and some freight hedge timings.

And then there is the inflationary headwinds that we just talked about, which is really around the coatings, which is probably the key factor. So yes, those are the main elements. Obviously, at the top end of the guidance, we're more or less flat year-on-year, midpoint, a few million off. So it's not anything dramatic, but those are the 2 or 3 headwinds, I think. Stefan is nodding, so I think we're okay.

Joshua Spector

How much are coatings as a percentage of your COGS? I'm surprised that you and your peers as well are kind of citing that as a surprise factor here. I didn't think it was that big, but it must be. Can you provide any range?

Oliver Graham

It's in the single digits. But when the oil price spikes like this, it's very meaningful, and we do buy a lot of them. So yes, I think it's just that they are products with pass-through in year. We then catch up with our PPI and other pass-through mechanisms over the year-end. So we see them more in year than other COGS categories. And as I said, it's been a very material step-up in the underlying cost base for them. But yes, so -- and we're not talking huge numbers, but certainly relevant enough to be a headwind for Q4 and going into '27.

Operator

We turn next to Nicholas Sherwood with Bank of America.

Nicholas Sherwood

Asking for George Staphos. So now that you've been in this higher inflation, higher oil price environment for a couple of months now, where are you seeing areas where you can find those incremental savings and mitigate inflation through the end of the year and the beginning of the year?

Oliver Graham

I mean, look, we're always working on productivity and efficiency. It's just the nature of the industry. So there's lots of areas we look. We lightweight the can, reduce metal. We have every year very stretched targets on the plants for reducing spoilage and running more efficiently and using capacity more effectively. We look in every corner of our SG&A. We have very significant programs around that every year. And then obviously, we have a very active procurement function looking at saving on the input cost.

So all of the above is the answer every time. And that's just the nature of the beast. It's that kind of industry. And if you're not doing that every year, to a significant extent, you fall behind the industry and then your pricing gets out of line. So yes, I don't see there's anything particularly new in what we're doing. Obviously, we're in very engaged conversations with the suppliers involved about how we face some of those price increases and manage those over time. But there's no particular magic to this. It's just a significant unexpected rise in cost within the year.

And then as I said, what we'll see over the next few months is our pass-throughs kicking in, in terms of our year-end, they go into the next year in terms of our customer pricing. And so that will start to mitigate some of these impacts. But nevertheless, we still see some impact of that in 2027 relative to our original expectations.

Nicholas Sherwood

Okay. And then my second question is, is there anything notable that you've seen in the early volume trends for the fourth quarter and the beginning of 2027, if you have any visibility into that?

Oliver Graham

I think they're all good. I mean I really think the beverage can industry is in a strong position at the moment. And despite the macro environment, to the points I made at the top of the call, we're not seeing that impact on the industry volumes or our volumes. So Europe, I think volume growth is really strong. And 6% in Q3, if you go back 10 years, we'd have all died for these numbers, and our peers are reporting very similar numbers. They've been ahead of us in some quarters. We're ahead this quarter. European can growth is really benefiting, I think, in the pack mix. And also, we're seeing much more innovation in soft drinks, in particular, going into the can.

And then North America, bigger market, but still growing overall, despite the drag on the beer category, we still see growth and particularly, again, in soft drinks, energy drinks and the new drinks. And despite the inflationary environment we see in North America and Brazil, as I said, we're now after what was a pretty tough first half. We're at 3.5% year-to-date, 7% in the quarter. And we're going into the summer season.

And we don't see anything different for 2027, to be honest. I mean we had a very tight summer in Europe on key sizes, lots of issues fulfilling demand, not just us, the whole industry. That's why we've talked about upscaling and accelerating our investments because we're conscious that we're not supporting our customers' growth to the extent they need. And again, that's because they're putting a lot more innovation and product into cans.

North America, certainly see very positive trends into next year. Again, a lot of innovation going into cans, a lot of new products coming. And Brazil, I think it's very up and down at the moment. We called that out. But again, it's just a very long-term fundamental shift of filling from 2-way glass into cans. So I think the industry is in a really good place. I think we're well positioned to take advantage of that growth with the strength of our customer relationships, the commitments they're making, and that's why we're investing more in 2027 to capture that growth. So yes, all good, I think, is the short answer to the question.

Operator

We'll go next to Michael Roxland with Truist Securities.

Niccolo Piccini

This is Nico on for Mike. Just starting out, can you help us understand maybe the competitive backdrop with yourself and your peers adding capacity by region, but also projecting strong demand. Do you think that the current capacity expansion plans are enough to fully capture your demand expectations? And then with that tight capacity, could that incentivize maybe new entrants into the market in the next few years?

Oliver Graham

Yes. No. Yes, good question, Mike. I mean, I think Europe, we're all struggling to follow the demand is my impression. Again, I think we had, as an industry, a tough summer. Operationally, there were challenges for everybody, I think, with some of the transitions on coatings and particularly weather effects. But nevertheless, I think the capacity just wasn't there for the scale of demand. And we've seen announcements by ourselves and our peers. But I think with the sort of level of growth we're getting and the scale that the European market has reached, we're going to stay in a tight situation, would be my prediction for the next at least 2, 3 years while we all recognize it and respond to it.

I don't personally see a big threat from new entrants. I think there was -- a lot of new entrants tried that during the COVID period and pretty much all gone. I think this is an industry with scale where you need scale. I talked about it. I think being a global competitor is a significant advantage in this industry, the scale at every level. And so yes, I mean, maybe, but I don't see that as a particular threat to our growth or our profitability.

Yes, and I'd make the same comments, North America and Brazil. I think North America is starting to feel tight on key sizes in key -- some key geographies. At the moment, we've got some capacity to grow into with the contract resets we had this year. So we're okay for the moment. But I think the industry as a whole is definitely tightening up.

And Brazil, it will come. We have some capacity. We've talked about it, particularly in the Northeast. But again, capacity is coming into the market to respond to geographical demand and all of that's very positive for the industry and helps also keep the industry in a good spot from a profitability point of view. So I don't see new entrants at the moment, and I don't see them having any material impact on the main players.

Niccolo Piccini

Understood. And then just a quick follow-up would be on debt levels and your ability or need to refinance maturities that are coming due in the next couple of years. What might that do, I guess, to interest expense in 2027, if you thought about it yet?

Oliver Graham

No, we're obviously always thinking about our financing situation. And as you say, there are maturities coming up. So yes, we're very much reviewing that situation. I don't think we've got anything to update today, but...

Stefan Schellinger

No, obviously, our '28 maturities are the next sort of in line. As you would expect, we are proactively thinking about this. Clearly, there will be some incremental, if and when we refinance, it will be at a higher cost given where markets are today. But then again, it will be a function of when and then what market we're going to basically tap. So yes, more to come, I think, in that regard.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go next to Anthony Pettinari with Citi.

Anthony Pettinari

I was disconnected earlier, so I apologize if this was already asked. But just as you look to '27 after kind of a transition year this year and you think about percentage of contracts up for renewal or major contracts up for renewal, is that across the 3 regions, is that sort of an above average or below average year for contract turnover? Just how should we think about that after a transition year?

Oliver Graham

Yes. Anthony, I think definitely below average. So I think North America, in particular, we went through those big contract resets in '24, '25 -- and as you say, that had some impact on '26. It also has some positive impact on 2027 and so we've also called out where we've talked about growing at least in line with the industry. And actually, we would definitely hope to grow above based on those resets.

And then I think similarly in South America, similar story. I think it's a below average year. And also, I think the European situation is definitely shifting a bit where with the investments that are coming in, I think understandably, customers are keen to contract and secure volumes, and we're keen, obviously, to secure volumes for those investments and so are our peers. So yes, it looks like at the minute, we're getting to a pretty contracted spot for 2027 and 2028 and beyond actually. So I think the short answer to the question is these look like below average years for the -- certainly the next 12 to 18, 24 months.

Anthony Pettinari

Great. Great. That's very helpful. And then just maybe one last one. It seems like bev cans are certainly gaining share on glass in North America and Europe. I'm just wondering, Brazil is maybe a little bit of a unique market in terms of their glass float. I'm just wondering if you could talk about the substitution dynamic that you're seeing or not seeing in Brazil. Just curious there.

Oliver Graham

Yes. I think it's a long-term dynamic. So obviously, the major brewer was the main determinant of that dynamic for a long time because they controlled the 2-way glass float and the position there. So depending where they wanted to push volumes into glass or 2-way glass or into cans, they could shift the market. And obviously, from that, the [ turn is ] sort of 2019 onwards, they really shifted into the off-trade to avoid losing any more share.

And then, yes, had a blip. We had a blip, I think, '22, '23 with very high metal prices where they pushed a bit more back into glass, but that was very temporary. And if we look at Q3, they've clearly pushed hard on metal again and the off-trade, which is the natural trend that you have in every market as they develop, the off-trade develops, you get mass supermarkets, big trade and you get promotions in cans and obviously, cheaper beer attracts consumers and that puts pressure on the on-trade.

So yes, I think that long-term trend of 2-way glass into one-way cans is fully intact and has got quite a long way to run in Brazil, which is why we feel so confident about the market and why we talk about a long-term mid-single-digit growth rate for that market.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor to Oliver Graham for any closing remarks.

Oliver Graham

Thanks, Linda. And yes, thanks to everybody on the call. So I think just to summarize, strong performance in the third quarter, growth in global shipments and adjusted EBITDA ahead of our guidance and reflecting that strong performance, we're upgrading our '26 full year adjusted EBITDA guidance to between $785 million and $795 million. And with that, we look forward to talking to you again at our Q4 results.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at this time.

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