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Conferencia de resultados del T3 de 2026 de Arch Capital (ACGL): $910M de resultado operativo, $1,4B en recompras de acciones

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Arch Capital Group informó un beneficio operativo después de impuestos de 910 millones de dólares, o 2,67 dólares por acción, en el tercer trimestre de 2026. Los tres segmentos generaron resultados de suscripción rentables: seguros aportó 108 millones, reaseguros 393 millones y seguros hipotecarios 201 millones de dólares. El ratio combinado global se benefició de un desarrollo favorable de reservas anteriores de 179 millones de dólares. La empresa recompró 14,8 millones de acciones por 1.400 millones de dólares durante el trimestre. De cara al futuro, la dirección prevé una presión continuada en los precios de reaseguros, un crecimiento selectivo en seguros y la continuación de estrategias activas de devolución de capital.

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Puntos clave

  • Arch Capital Group (NASDAQ: ACGL) informó un beneficio operativo después de impuestos de 910 millones de dólares en el T3 de 2026, o 2,67 dólares por acción. El rendimiento operativo anualizado sobre el capital ordinario medio fue del 16,0%, mientras que el ROE del beneficio neto anualizado alcanzó el 18,1%.
  • La suscripción se mantuvo rentable en los tres segmentos. Seguros, reaseguros y seguros hipotecarios generaron un resultado de suscripción de 108 millones, 393 millones y 201 millones de dólares, respectivamente.
  • Las pérdidas por catástrofes del ejercicio actual fueron de 234 millones de dólares, netas de reaseguro y primas de reinstalación. El desarrollo favorable de reservas de ejercicios anteriores totalizó 179 millones de dólares, lo que redujo el ratio combinado global en 4,5 puntos.
  • Arch recompró 14,8 millones de acciones por 1.400 millones de dólares durante el trimestre. La empresa recompró aproximadamente otros 100 millones de dólares hasta la noche anterior a la llamada de resultados e indicó que es probable que se realicen nuevas devoluciones de capital si las oportunidades de despliegue orgánico siguen siendo limitadas.
  • El volumen de primas de reaseguro disminuyó a medida que los precios de daños materiales y de ciclo corto se moderaron. La dirección prevé una presión continuada en las renovaciones del 1 de enero y señaló que la siniestralidad subyacente del reaseguro podría aumentar un par de cientos de puntos básicos con el tiempo.
  • El negocio de riesgos de guerra marítimos relacionado con el conflicto de Irán impulsó el crecimiento de las primas de seguros y la mejora del ratio de siniestralidad. La dirección prevé un nivel similar de primas asociadas en el T4 de 2026, sujeto a la evolución geopolítica.

Datos financieros clave

MétricaResultado del T3 de 2026Variación o contexto
Beneficio operativo después de impuestos910 millones de dólares2,67 dólares por acción
ROE operativo anualizado16,0%Basado en el capital ordinario medio
ROE del beneficio neto anualizado18,1%Respaldado por inversiones contabilizadas por el método de la participación
Ratio combinado global del año de ocurrencia excluidas catástrofes81,2%Un aumento de 70 puntos básicos interanual
Desarrollo favorable de ejercicios anteriores179 millones de dólaresBeneficio de 4,5 puntos en el ratio combinado
Pérdidas por catástrofes del ejercicio actual234 millones de dólaresNetas de reaseguro y primas de reinstalación
Ingresos netos por inversiones451 millones de dólaresAntes de impuestos
Ingresos por inversiones contabilizadas por el método de la participación224 millones de dólaresAntes de impuestos
Ingresos combinados de inversiones y método de la participación675 millones de dólares1,98 dólares por acción antes de impuestos
Flujo de caja operativo1.800 millones de dólaresRespaldado por los resultados de suscripción
Activos invertibles49.200 millones de dólaresAl cierre del trimestre
Recompras de acciones1.400 millones de dólares14,8 millones de acciones en el T3
Valor contable tangible por acción, excluyendo AOCIAumento de aproximadamente el 15%Interanual
Tasa impositiva efectiva sobre el beneficio operativo15,8%Reflejó la mezcla geográfica de ingresos

Rendimiento operativo y del negocio

Seguros

El resultado de suscripción de seguros fue de 108 millones de dólares, con un ratio combinado del 94,4% y un ratio combinado del año de ocurrencia actual excluyendo catástrofes del 89,2%.

Las primas brutas emitidas aumentaron un 7,8% interanual, mientras que las primas netas emitidas subieron un 2,7%. El crecimiento se benefició de un nuevo programa cautivo en mercados alternativos y de cobertura marítima mundial adicional relacionada con el conflicto de Irán.

Durante los primeros nueve meses de 2026, tras ajustar por la reducción planificada en el negocio de programas comerciales para el mercado mediano, las primas brutas emitidas aumentaron un 4,2% y las primas netas emitidas subieron un 1,6%.

El ratio de siniestralidad del año de ocurrencia excluyendo catástrofes mejoró 170 puntos básicos hasta el 55,8%. La dirección atribuyó la mayor parte de la mejora al incremento de las primas devengadas procedentes de la cobertura de riesgos de guerra marítimos.

Arch continuó identificando oportunidades en el mercado de líneas excedentarias (E&S) de responsabilidad civil en Norteamérica, construcción y responsabilidad civil de grandes cuentas nacionales. A nivel internacional, su plataforma de Lloyd's impulsó el crecimiento en líneas especializadas. Los mercados de daños materiales y de ciclo corto fueron más competitivos, mientras que los aumentos de tarifas de responsabilidad civil continuaron desacelerándose.

Reaseguros

El reaseguro generó 393 millones de dólares en resultado de suscripción y un ratio combinado del 78,3%. Las primas brutas emitidas disminuyeron aproximadamente un 8%, mientras que las primas netas emitidas cayeron un 9,3% interanual.

La contracción reflejó menores tarifas y una menor participación en daños materiales y otras líneas de ciclo corto. El ratio combinado del año de ocurrencia excluyendo catástrofes aumentó 160 puntos básicos hasta el 78,4%, impulsado por una mayor proporción de negocio de ciclo largo y precios más competitivos.

Arch está utilizando capital de terceros de manera más amplia para gestionar la exposición neta y mantener las relaciones con los clientes, limitando al mismo tiempo la cantidad de capital propio comprometido en negocios de menor rendimiento. La dirección indicó que las oportunidades en reaseguro de responsabilidad civil siguen disponibles, pero las condiciones generales son menos atractivas que en el seguro directo.

Seguros hipotecarios

El resultado de suscripción del segmento hipotecario fue de 201 millones de dólares. La tasa de morosidad de los seguros hipotecarios en EE. UU. se mantuvo baja, en el 2,2% a 30 de septiembre, mientras que la persistencia de la cartera fue de aproximadamente el 80%.

El desarrollo favorable de reservas se moderó en comparación con años anteriores, pero la actividad de subsanación de impagos se mantuvo fuerte. Las tasas hipotecarias más altas continuaron respaldando la persistencia al limitar la actividad de refinanciación voluntaria.

Los negocios fuera del seguro hipotecario directo en EE. UU. generaron 66 millones de dólares en primas netas durante el trimestre. La dirección señaló que el programa piloto de cancelación de seguros hipotecarios anunciado recientemente no debería tener un impacto a corto plazo porque se aplica de forma prospectiva a las nuevas hipotecas.

Inversiones y capital

Los ingresos netos por inversiones fueron de 451 millones de dólares, mientras que las inversiones contabilizadas por el método de la participación aportaron 224 millones de dólares al beneficio neto antes de impuestos. Los rendimientos del nuevo capital superaron la rentabilidad contable de la cartera de renta fija en aproximadamente 65 a 70 puntos básicos, lo que según la dirección respaldará los ingresos por inversiones futuros.

Arch recompró aproximadamente el 109% de su beneficio neto durante los primeros nueve meses de 2026. La dirección afirmó que la emisión de deuda de junio proporcionó unos 1.100 millones de dólares de capital adicional para fines corporativos generales, incluidas las recompras de acciones. Está previsto amortizar un vencimiento de deuda de 500 millones de dólares en diciembre.

Perspectivas de la dirección

La dirección prevé que el crecimiento de los seguros siga siendo selectivo en lugar de estar impulsado por el volumen. Ve potencial de crecimiento en el mercado mediano de EE. UU., responsabilidad civil E&S, construcción y líneas especializadas seleccionadas de Londres en 2027, aunque no se proporcionó una previsión cuantitativa de primas.

El ratio de gastos de seguros podría disminuir de forma moderada desde los niveles actuales. La dirección citó los créditos fiscales recurrentes en Bermudas, el fin de los gastos duplicados de integración del mercado mediano y las continuas iniciativas de eficiencia.

Para el T4 de 2026, la dirección prevé que las primas de riesgos de guerra marítimos relacionadas con el conflicto de Irán se mantengan en un nivel similar al del T3, asumiendo que persistan las condiciones actuales.

En reaseguros, la dirección prevé una continua presión sobre los precios en catástrofes de daños materiales y otras líneas de ciclo corto en las renovaciones del 1 de enero. El ratio de siniestralidad subyacente podría aumentar gradualmente en un par de cientos de puntos básicos, dependiendo de los precios de renovación y la mezcla de negocio.

La dirección afirmó que la fijación de precios en responsabilidad civil directa se ha desacelerado hasta situarse cerca o por debajo de la tendencia de costes por siniestralidad. Sin embargo, Arch sigue considerando que el negocio específico de responsabilidad civil que suscribe genera rendimientos absolutos aceptables.

Riesgos y aspectos a vigilar

  • La abundante capacidad de reaseguro está ejerciendo presión sobre los precios de daños materiales y ciclo corto, los niveles de participación y el crecimiento de las primas.
  • Los precios de la responsabilidad civil se han desacelerado, estrechando o eliminando el margen por encima de las tendencias de costes por siniestralidad en algunos segmentos del mercado.
  • Las exposiciones al conflicto de Irán generaron tanto primas adicionales como pérdidas por catástrofes. El conflicto representó sustancialmente menos de la mitad de las pérdidas totales por catástrofes del T3, pero los resultados futuros dependen de la evolución geopolítica.
  • La dirección destacó la incertidumbre en torno a las estructuras de capital de terceros centradas en responsabilidad civil, en particular qué participantes retienen en última instancia el riesgo de cola.
  • La pérdida máxima probable neta por catástrofes naturales en zona pico de Arch para un único evento de 1 en 250 años aumentó ligeramente a 1.900 millones de dólares, lo que equivale al 8,6% del patrimonio neto tangible de los accionistas.
  • El tratamiento potencial de un activo por impuesto diferido en Bermudas sigue siendo incierto. Arch evalúa su posición de capital tanto con dicho activo como sin él.

Puntos destacados de las preguntas y respuestas de analistas

Retorno de capital: La dirección señaló que las recompras siguen siendo el método preferido para devolver capital al precio actual de la acción. El ritmo dependerá de la valoración, las oportunidades orgánicas y las restricciones de las ventanas de negociación. Las fusiones y adquisiciones se consideran principalmente una decisión estratégica más que una herramienta de gestión del capital.

Gestión de un ciclo más blando: En reaseguros, Arch prevé gestionar la exposición neta mediante el uso de capital de terceros, manteniendo al mismo tiempo las relaciones con corredores y cedentes. En seguros, la dirección prevé ajustes de cartera más específicos en lugar de no renovaciones generalizadas, respaldados por datos analíticos detallados.

Oportunidades en responsabilidad civil: Las oportunidades más claras se encuentran en el seguro directo, especialmente en la responsabilidad civil E&S del mercado mediano, la construcción y ciertos riesgos especializados. El crecimiento de la responsabilidad civil en reaseguros está más limitado porque las condiciones de cesión siguen siendo competitivas a pesar del atractivo del negocio subyacente.

Regulación del seguro hipotecario: La dirección no prevé un impacto a corto plazo por el programa piloto de cancelación. Aproximadamente el 25% del riesgo de seguro hipotecario en vigor corresponde a añadas anteriores a 2023, mientras que la iniciativa actual es de carácter prospectivo.

Centros de datos: La dirección coincidió en que las estimaciones de los corredores de aproximadamente 10.000 millones de dólares en nuevas primas de mercado parecían razonables. Arch participa a través de su equipo de construcción de Londres, pero no prevé que esta oportunidad sea un motor principal de primas para la empresa.

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Comentarios de la dirección

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the 3Q 2026 Arch Capital Earnings Conference Call.

[Operator Instructions]

As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Before the company gets started with its update, management wants to first remind everyone that certain statements in yesterday's press release and discussed on this call may constitute forward-looking statements under the federal securities laws. These statements are based upon management's current assessments and assumptions and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Consequently, actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied. For more information on the risks and other factors that may affect future performance, investors should review periodic reports that are filed by the company with the SEC from time to time including our annual report on Form 10-K for the 2025 fiscal year.

Additionally, certain statements contained in the call that are not based on historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The company intends the forward-looking statements in the call to be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Management will also make reference to certain non-GAAP measures of financial performance. The reconciliations to GAAP for each non-GAAP financial measure can be found in the company's current report on Form 8-K furnished to the SEC yesterday, which contains the company's earnings press release and is available on the company's website at www.archgroup.com and on the SEC's website at www.sec.gov.

I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Nicolas Papadopoulo, and Mr. Francois Morin. Sirs, you may begin.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Good morning, and welcome to Arch's Third Quarter Earnings Call. Arch delivered very strong results this quarter, reflecting excellent underwriting performance across each of our businesses, and a relatively low level of catastrophe activity. After-tax operating income was $910 million or $2.67 per share resulting in an annualized operating return on average common equity of 16%. Strong returns from our equity method investment contributed to an annualized net income return on average common equity of 18.1%.

Despite increasingly competitive market conditions, we continue to generate strong returns, reflecting our ability to proactively shift capital to optimize long-term returns. This is the essence of cycle management and given this dynamic, we were able to return approximately $1.4 billion to our common shareholders through buybacks in the quarter. Book value per share was essentially flat in the quarter. However, it's worth noting that tangible book value per share, excluding AOCI, increased approximately 15% from a year ago. Arch's brand, underwriting expertise and relationships, combined with our diversified platform, give us broad access to business across insurance and reinsurance. In addition, continuing investments in data and analytics, enhance our risk selection and provide deeper insight into our portfolios. Each of these elements allows us to be highly selective about where and how we deploy capital.

Importantly, we are led by returns. Therefore, premium growth is not the ultimate objective. We continue to act on what we see growing where returns remain attractive, and exercising restraint where they do not. Let me now turn to our segment performance, starting with insurance. Insurance generated $108 million of underwriting income in the quarter with a combined ratio of 94.4%, and a current accident year combined ratio, excluding catastrophes, of 89.2%. Gross premiums written increased 7.8% and net premiums return increased 2.7% compared to the same quarter last year. Premium growth in the quarter benefited from a new captive program in alternative markets and increased writings of marine worldwide coverage related to the Iran conflict. The premium growth we saw this quarter was stronger than the underlying trend for the year. Year-to-date, adjusting for the planned reduction in middle market commercial program business, gross premiums written increased 4.2% and net premiums written increased 1.6% and compared to the first 9 months of last year. This low single-digit underlying growth is consistent with our expectations given current market condition.

In North America, we continue to see opportunities across excess and surplus casualty construction and national account casualty where rate and market conditions remain attractive. Internationally, we continue to benefit from our position as a lead market across many classes at Lloyd's. At the same time, property and short-tail markets remain more competitive while rate increases have moderated in some of our casualty lines. We continue to believe that adverse development emerging across the industry for more recent accident years, reinforces the need for casualty pricing to remain at or above loss cost trend. Moving to reinsurance, which delivered $393 million of underwriting income in the quarter with a combined ratio of 78.3%, aided by light catastrophe activity. Gross premiums written declined approximately 8% compared with the same quarter last year, reflecting abundant reinsurance capacity, particularly in property and short-tail lines.

Consistent with our cycle management approach, we are reducing participation where retailers no longer meet our objectives and increasingly leveraging third-party capital to manage net exposure and optimize returns on our own capital. While casualty generally remains attractive, additional capacity continues to enter the market. We will not chase growth for the sake of growth. We will remain patient and deploy capital where pricing and terms and conditions appropriately reflect the underlying risk. Our objective is not to become an index of the overall market. Our global reach, underwriting expertise and third-party capital platform allow us to take advantage of opportunities as they emerge and to construct a portfolio that delivers a require risk-adjusted returns. Our mortgage segment generated $201 million of underwriting income in the quarter and continues to be a valuable contributor to our results.

New origination volume remains constrained primarily due to mortgage interest rates currently above 7%, limiting near-term growth opportunities. Importantly, the underlying quality of our in-force portfolio remains strong. In USMI, favorable reserve development has moderated from prior years, while positive hormone credit condition continued to support a low delinquency rate of 2.2% at September 30. Higher mortgage rates also support persistency by reducing voluntary refinancing activity. Our business outside of primary U.S. mortgage insurance wrote $66 million of net premium in the quarter, and we continue to see opportunities in these businesses, providing diversification from our U.S. MI business. As always, the mortgage team remains focused on disciplined execution, optimizing the platform and managing expenses in line with the market environment.

Finally, investment contributed $451 million of pretax net investment income in the quarter. Our equity method investment also performed very well contributing $224 million to pretax net income. With $49.2 billion of investable assets Investment income is expected to remain an important contributor to Arch's overall earnings. Last Friday, Arch celebrated its 25th anniversary. I want to recognize this milestone and thank our employees for what we have built together, a global franchise, a strong brand and perhaps, most importantly, a unique culture anchored in our values. I also want to thank our investors for the confidence they have placed in Arch over the past 25 years.

As I reflect on my 25 years at Arch, one thing has remained consistent. Our ability to adapt and generate attractive returns across very different market environments. That has been our legacy for our first 25 years, and it remains our focus for the next 25. Today, we are operating in a transitioning market where conditions are becoming increasingly uneven. And as this quarter's results demonstrate, we are prepared for that environment, and we welcome the challenge. The market will continue to evolve, but our core principles will not. We will remain disciplined on the rider and thoughtful stewards of capital always focused on producing superior risk-adjusted returns over the long term. That gives me confidence in Arch's position today and the opportunities ahead over the next 25 years. With that, I will turn the call over to Francois.

François Morin

Thank you, Nicolas, and good morning to all. As you saw last night, our third quarter results were highlighted by strong underwriting performance and solid investment results. Capital management and capital returns also remain very much at the forefront of our initiatives this quarter as we took advantage of an attractive share price to repurchase 14.8 million of our common shares at an aggregate cost of $1.4 billion in the quarter. Through 9 months of 2026, we have repurchased approximately 109% of our net income in our own shares. While our first choice will always be to invest our capital in the business, a transitioning business environment presents an avenue to return excess capital to our shareholders.

Turning to our operating performance for the quarter. Our 3 business segments delivered excellent underlying results with an overall ex-cat accident year combined ratio of 81.2% and up 70 basis points from the same quarter last year. Our underwriting income included $179 million of favorable prior redevelopment on a pretax basis in the third quarter, or 4.5 points on the overall combined ratio. We recognized favorable development in all 3 of our segments and in many of our lines of business, but mainly in short tail lines in our P&C segments and in mortgage due to ongoing strong cure activity. Current year catastrophe losses were $234 million in the quarter, net of reinsurance and reinstatement premiums. These catastrophe losses originated from a variety of events across the globe and include losses associated with the Iran conflict. The Insurance segment's net premiums written increased 2.7% year-over-year as we were able to grow in select areas where expected returns met our underwriting criteria primarily in our international operations. These opportunities more than offset the headwinds from the nonrenewal of certain program business discussed on prior calls.

The [ ex-cat ] accident year loss ratio, net of reinstatement premiums improved by 170 basis points to 55.8% compared to the same quarter 1 year ago. Most of the improvement was due to the benefit of incremental marine war breach earned premium. Our insurance expense ratio was lower this quarter compared to the same quarter 1 year ago. reflecting the introduction of the Bermuda Q RTCs. Turning to our reinsurance segment. Net premiums written were down 9.3% from the same quarter 1 year ago. reflecting reduced writings from lower rates and reduced participations across many lines of business with the notable exception of casualty, where we were able to find growth opportunities. Overall, our ex-cat accident year combined ratio of 78.4% increased 160 basis points from last year. due to the shift in line of business mix towards longer tail lines and a more competitive rate environment. As I mentioned earlier, favorable prior year reserve development in the quarter was primarily from short-tail lines, with nominal movements in casualty and longer tail lines of business.

Our mortgage segment produced another very strong quarter with underwriting income of $201 million. The decrease in underwriting income reflects lower net premiums earned from last quarter, with the reduction occurring in our U.S. MI business due to lower monthly premiums and higher ceded premiums and in our international operations, where last quarter was favorably impacted by single premium terminations. Overall, the credit quality of our in-force portfolio remains very strong as reflected by a low delinquency rate and favorable cure activity. Persistency of our in-force portfolio remains at around 80%, is an important factor in the sustainability of future premium flows. On the investment front, we earned a combined $675 million from net investment income and income from funds accounted for using the equity method or $1.98 per share pretax up from the $1.76 per share we earned last quarter. We note that the returns on equity method funds contributed 340 basis points to our annualized net income return on average common equity on a year-to-date basis and represents an important part though variable of our book value growth over time.

Cash flow from operations remained very strong at $1.8 billion for the quarter, given the strong underwriting results of our operations. The recent increase in interest rates is also expected to provide a tailwind to net investment income, given the short duration of our fixed income portfolio and new money yields outpacing our book yield by approximately 65 to 70 basis points. Income from operating affiliates was $33 million for the quarter, down from $62 million from the same quarter 1 year ago. Our effective tax rate on pretax operating income was 15.8%, reflecting the mix of income by tax jurisdiction. As of October 1, our peak zone natural cap PML for a single event 1-in-250-year return period on a net basis is up slightly to $1.9 billion and now stands at 8.6% of tangible shareholders' equity. With these introductory comments, we are now prepared to take your questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Our first question comes from the line of Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo.

Preguntas y respuestas

Elyse Greenspan

I guess my first question is just on capital. You guys have been leaning into buyback of late -- so I was just hoping to get an update on how you're kind of balancing buyback and how you guys see some inorganic opportunities that are out there today? And then can you let us know -- provide an update on buybacks in the fourth quarter to date in October?

François Morin

Yes, sure. On the -- yes, through last night, we bought back just about another $100 million of buybacks in October. And again, our strategy has not changed over time. We look carefully at capital, we're best to deploy it. Last quarter was really -- and I mentioned it earlier, is really we thought the stock price was particularly attractive, and we have the opportunity to buy back a meaningful amount of shares in that period. So we're we seize the opportunity.

How do we think about the rest of the year in 2027? I mean we're in a good position. Obviously, our capital base is very strong. We're generating very strong earnings. And the challenge for us right now is growing. So in an environment where growth is a bit more difficult than -- we still generate very strong earnings. We'll be in a position to probably most likely return back even more capital as we move forward.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes. To answer your question, we don't think of inorganic growth as a capital management. I think for us, we think more M&A as strategic as...

Elyse Greenspan

Okay. And then my second question, you guys said right, the underlying insurance growth is kind of in the low single digits right now. Just as you guys think about the market evolving, not only like for the fourth quarter, I'm really more interested in 2017. How do you see the and underlying growth trending within the insurance business over the next 15 months or so?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So our view as a change is, I think we believe that we're trading in a pretty good market overall. And we see attractive opportunities in insurance, especially in the casualty lines of business and some of the specialty we write in London to be able to grow. I mean there is headwinds, continued headwinds on the property side that we are aware of. But overall, we feel good about markets we trade in.

François Morin

Yes. If you compare '26 to what we -- what could happen in '27, and compare really to '25. And we -- the decrease -- we had some headwinds in '26. We talked about, right, the nonrenewals of MC programs the property, cyber, there are some lines that were we shrunk because the market wasn't attractive to us. So now if you compare like '27 versus '26, like the reset, we think there's a good opportunity for us to grow at some level in '26, our middle market business in the U.S. We think we'll has an opportunity to grow. So there's a lot -- there's a number of areas where you compare like on a relative like '27 versus '26, we think we'll be in an environment that attractive in some places and we'll find a way to go get some of that business.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Pablo Singzon with JPMorgan.

Pablo Singzon

First question is on the expense ratio -- operating expense ratio. I was hoping you could frame that as we go into next year, it seems like there's going to be some pressure on your premium base -- but at the same time, you're getting a step-up in Bermuda tax credits and then, of course, the normal course expense management initiatives that you'll be implementing anyway. So just any perspective on how that might trend from here?

François Morin

Yes. If we focus on -- I mean, I'm assuming the question is more for insurance -- the way we think about it, and we always go back to trailing 12 months, like what's the run rate? Certainly, as you know, there's seasonality in some of our expenses and all that. But no question that the permit CRTCs is not a onetime event, right? So it's sustainable. So yes, in Q3 specific, we didn't have a Q3 '25, we had at Q3 '26. Yes, that's what we're trying to certainly communicate in the earnings release, and that will be there going forward.

And as you know, and you mentioned it, the credits are expected to go up in on a percentage basis based on what the permit government is committed to -- and then we had a couple of things that kind of we had to absorb this year, right? We had some -- a little bit of duplication of expenses around the integration of our middle market business. That is, for the most part, if not completely behind us in terms of the double counting or double expense. So that will be a benefit. And normal, call it, inflationary cost on expenses, we think should kind of track generally closely to the premium growth.

So premium expense ratio, you put it all together, we think has a chance to kind of be -- come down a little bit from the current levels. But -- and you mentioned it, we'll be working aggressively manage our expense base. There's potential improvements and efficiencies, et cetera, that we'll realize over time. But that's kind of how we think about it.

Pablo Singzon

And then the second question on the MI business and not specifically about the quarter, but I just wanted to get your thoughts on changes on the regulatory side there where there's a recent pilot announced best, think it's meant to streamline cancellation upon reaching some real LTVs, right, based on the home market values. So how do you see that affecting your business?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes. So the way we think about it is we don't see any near-term impact. I think the pilot is really for new mortgages and it's going to take some time to implement. So as far as we are concerned, I think we think mortgage remains a terrific business for us.

François Morin

Right. I think the pilot what's been identified, right, is to -- I think that there's the vision or this acknowledgment that there's some inertia in terms of -- because it's not a change, right, per se, like the current rules have always been in place, people have the ability to cancel their MI if they reach certain LTV levels, et cetera. So that's nothing new there. I think they're trying to have people realize that there's this optionality. They want to encourage it. They want to encourage home affordability we were fully supportive of that.

But I'd say where we -- where the MI product has been truly a massive benefit to promoting homeownership and home affordability is when we have the staff, we ran the SaaS recently. Last year, we through MI, we were able to support 75,000 first-time homebuyers in the U.S. So we think that's a very positive thing to promote homeownership and promote home affordability. So I think the consensus within the housing market is that there's definitely room and MI is a big part of that ecosystem. But obviously, having people get beyond a little bit the inertia of cancellation, et cetera. I think they're trying to develop a mechanism to make that a bit more efficient.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Scott with Barclays.

Unknown Analyst

Wonder if you could dig a little bit more into the international growth for us, specifically kind of risk you're taking the kind of loss experience you've seen on that business, in particular, if it's Middle East and related?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes. So I think we are a leader in the London market and whether it's online or [indiscernible] breach. Those are coverage where we've with others, we provide, and we've been providing for a while. So I think we -- when we look at what's happening today in the Middle East, I think we look at our market share on those losses and the premium we get paid. And I think we see it more as an opportunity than anything else. So I think we trade carefully in that region, but we also want to support the insured we've been ensuring for a while in that region. So we take it seriously, and I think we trade carefully, but we see this as is doing our job in helping those insured at the time where they really need the insurance.

Unknown Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. Could you talk also about just what you're seeing in terms of private capital emergence and the reinsurance landscape and property as well, and just how Arch can take advantage of that, but also maybe some of the risks associated with the pricing environment that come along with it, your high-level perspective on some of that capital?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes. So third-party capital, it's a helpful tool for us, I think, for the industry in general. And I think it's -- and as pricing goes down, I think a capacity that has a lower cost of capital and the industry has been using it to provide solution to brokers and [indiscernible] and Arch is doing that. So on the property side, I think it's been there for a while. I think supply comes and goes. So I think as a carrier, we have to be able to manage that. But I think it's an interesting and valuable tool to have.

On the casualty side, I think it's on the reinsurance side, it's a little newer and untested. And it doesn't look that the product provides as much tail risk. So the question is who has the terror risk in the structure and that's still a question.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Cave Montazeri with Deutsche Bank.

Cave Montazeri

The first question is on the Marine Bridge premiums. As we think about your run rate -- underlying loss ratio, could you maybe help us quantify the impact had on -- during the quarter? How much did that kind of boost your action cat loss ratio this quarter?

François Morin

Yes. I mean I touched on my comments. I think it was most of the improvement. So you compare year-over-year, that was pretty much -- there's always gives and takes here and there, but try to make it clear or easy for you guys to think about it. There was most of the improvement. So you can see the premium flows through. Our international short tail and property specialty line of business in the supplement. And so it was definitely noticeable, so that's why we highlighted it.

Cave Montazeri

Got it. And thanks for the color on the insurance OpEx. I guess I'll maybe ask about that on the reinsurance side. Obviously, earned premium is coming down. But year-to-date, your OpEx ratio also improved, went down. So can you unpack what's driving that improvement? And is there anything we should keep in mind as we try to run rate that improvement going forward?

François Morin

I mean the nuance or maybe the slight -- the difference for reinsurance is there's certainly some profit commissions on third-party capital that come into play here, and it's been a relatively benign cat environment the last couple of years. So are we earning or is that a run rate? I mean that's for you guys to decide whether on a more normalized cat year, we would probably have slightly less in terms of profit commissions. But the rest, I mean, it's again, our teams are working hard to manage the expense base and kind of have that lined up with the growth in the premium, but that's, again, just back on the profit commissions that may be the one thing on reinsurance that is something to think about.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Kligerman with TD Cohen.

Andrew Kligerman

I'll skip my follow-up and ask this question as a couple of pieces to it. So I heard Nicolas say that casualty is attracting much more capital now. And at the same time, I think, Nicolas, you also said that you're seeing a lot of growth opportunities in insurance, casualty. And then later, I think Francois was saying he sees opportunities in casualty and reinsurance for growth. So it seems like that's the growth area.

So what I'm hoping to hear is a, where in both segments do you see the growth opportunities? And b, maybe that's -- maybe I should reverse the order. And the second part of it is in both segments what are rates terms and conditions doing? I hear in reinsurance, it's getting a little softer in terms of ceding commissions and maybe terms. So that's it.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes, I think you're right in a sense that the opportunity and the casualty probably more clear on the insurance than it is on the reinsurance side. And the insurance, you mentioned -- we mentioned in my comments, the lines of business that we've been growing. I think we have a decent value proposition, lots of data and historical data on the on the segments we're writing in. So we're not writing the entire market in casualty on the insurance side. We are writing -- we're not targeting the large account excess towers, which we think is still challenging. But the rest, I mean, the E&S casualty and some of the other specialty we write like construction, we feel very good about our brand and our expertise and the solutions we're solving clients in the current market environment.

On the reinsurance side, it's a little different. I think the underlying business that our guys target is very similar to what we do on the insurance side, but the terms and conditions are probably not where we'd want them to be. So I think to -- for them to be able like a piece of business, you need both the underlying to be attractive and the term condition to be attractive. And there is despite the fact that some of the major players have withdrawn, there is still an abundance of smaller players that are providing enough capacity to keep those terms and conditions in our view, too high. So it makes -- we find opportunities, but they are not as likely as in the insurance group. And the role of third-party capital it's hard. It adds another dimension to the supply on the reinsurance side. So I think it's -- it contributes to more supply, which makes it more difficult to find growth.

Andrew Kligerman

That was helpful. Maybe anything you could say on rates and casualty just in general?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So primary casualty rates have been decelerating, but there's still about loss trend. So I think we still think it's adequate overall.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Josh Shanker with Bank of America.

Joshua Shanker

So over the past year, you've returned 100% of your earnings to shareholders. And if you look at comprehensive income, you've returned more than 100%. So it's question you might be pushing into excess capital here. How big is that excess capital cushion that you hat you could be returning 100% of your capital or more for a while? And where does the Bermuda tax credit sit in that sort of capital availability?

François Morin

Well, I know you're hoping I'm going to give you the number, and I'm not. So that's like good try on that one. But yes, no question. I mean, right, I mean, excess capital, we talk about it a lot. We certainly don't look to carry excess capital too much of it. And we were in a position a few years ago when we are -- and our results have been very strong in the last few years, and we didn't buy back a whole lot in '24. We started buying back a little bit last year and more so in the second half of the year and a lot this year. So no question that the stock price is a factor in how much we return and how quickly.

But yes, we have accumulated a lot of excess capital over the years, and there's still some on the balance sheet. It's not -- as we've said before, it's not burning in our pockets. We're not going to go waste it, and we're very careful with it, and we want to be again, if there's a good opportunity where we can put it to work in the business, we'll absolutely -- that's always our top priority. But let's -- you look at our numbers, we do still have some excess capital that at the right time will be certainly absent some opportunity to deploy in the business, we'll return to shareholders. So that's part of that.

And part B of your question in terms of the Bermuda tax, there's no new developments. So we have talked about this potential kind of DTA going away. Is it going to be in the fourth quarter? Is it going to be next year? Is it not going to happen? There's a lot of discussions with both Bermuda government and OECD and lots of interested parties. So we're waiting or we're just -- we'll see -- we'll hear more probably over the coming months. But right now, no news to communicate.

Joshua Shanker

Well, it's probably about $900 million to $1 billion. Do you internally give yourself any capital credit for it to the rating agencies? How do you think about it when you're assessing your capital cushion?

François Morin

I mean it's capital, but internally, we look at it with and without. So we take the view, and we always run analyses with and without it because it's a possibility that we lose it. It's not a certainty. So for us, it's important to run scenarios or run models both ways.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Rowland Mayor with RBC Capital Markets.

Rowland Mayor

I wanted to go off Pablo's MI question. Could you maybe walk through the amount of capital that backs the pre-2023 loans that have significant HTA? I assume there would be a significant unlock there if there was a regulatory change or the friction with reduced the AI.

François Morin

Sorry, Roland, we couldn't quite -- can you repeat the question? You didn't come through clear to us. Sorry. We're not -- I mean did we lose them?

Rowland Mayor

Sorry phone issues. Going off Pablo's MI question, could you maybe walk through the amount of capital that backs pre-2023 loans that have significant HPA in case there is a regulatory change or AI reduces friction in terms of detaching those loans?

François Morin

Well, again, the -- it's in the supplement that you can look at the risk in force that is for pre-'23. We have the risk in force by year. So it's call it, pre '23, it's somewhere around 25% of our risk in force is in -- again, we got a category for 2016 and prior, which goes back longer. But big picture, call it, 25% of the risk in force.

Again, the executive order is very specific that it's going to be prospective. So it's a fair question you asked. But for us right now, it's not a concern. We were supportive of the initiative. But at this point, more to come in how the pilot program is going to work and what it's going to achieve.

Rowland Mayor

That's helpful. And then my second question, the buyback quarter-to-date, you said was a meaningful slowdown. Is that because the stock moved when you were in a blackout period? Or should we think about 3Q as a pull forward?

François Morin

Sorry, in the fourth quarter?

Rowland Mayor

Yes. I believe you said $100 million through last night, and that would be a sharp slowdown?

François Morin

I mean, again, it's -- there's a variety of considerations. It's -- I mean we were in a blackout period. So we put like a 10b5-1 plan in place, and there's limits on it, et cetera. So now that we'll be back in the open window starting tomorrow, we'll see what we do. But that's -- again, I don't want to kind of -- I want you guys to read too much into like what happened like on a daily basis because there's a lot of considerations that go into it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Motemaden with Evercore.

David Motemaden

You guys have spoken a bit about how you expect low single-digit insurance growth going forward. I'm wondering if you could just share your view on the reinsurance side just -- and maybe just touch on how you're thinking about the 1/1 property cat renewals.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes. We really don't give guidance. So keep that in mind. Clearly, we expect some continued pressure on the short tail book, catastrophe excess of loss and other property, which is a big part of the portfolio in reinsurance, much bigger part than in insurance. So that will put pressure on the top line. But we like the market we are in.

So I think we are trading well. We have a big book. We have great brands. So we're still finding opportunities. So I think -- and we also take underwriting actions as pricings are going down. So I think you have to put all of this together and figure out where we're going to end up at 1/1. The market on the property side, due to the fact that there hasn't been any -- it's been a light catastrophe year, you can expect continued pressure, I think, on the rates.

David Motemaden

Got it. That makes sense. I thought it was worth a try to ask about. Just maybe just following up. Interesting to hear you talk about casualty pricing still being attractive, but it sounds like moderating within North America E&S casualty and large account casualty. But at the same time, the Lloyd's pricing is moderating. Is -- it sounds like you said pricing is still above loss trend on casualty just broadly in insurance. Is that -- how narrow is that now? Like has that been narrowing enough where like that could potentially get to a point where you guys are thinking about pulling back? Or do you still think there's pretty -- still a pretty good runway to continue to grow in casualty?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So first correction is I think I said the pricing in casualty has decelerated, and now it's about loss trend to below. I think that margin now is 0 or turning negative. So that's one. The business we write, we think, has still very good margin in it. So I think there is a decent run rate in front of us for us to continue to find that business attractive.

François Morin

So I think just to clarify, we still like the absolute return. It's just that on a relative basis, it's not improving, but it's holding up. So we're still chasing or hoping to get more of that business because on an absolute level, returns are -- meet our threshold, and it's good business.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tracy Benguigui with Wolfe Research.

Tracy Benguigui

I hate to be a dead horse on capital, but it was great to hear that you're in a position to return even more capital as you move forward and your buybacks this quarter were quite remarkable on a payout ratio basis. But I'm curious, if any way, if that level was debt funded. I'll just point out that out of your $2 billion debt raise, about $1.1 billion was incremental debt and the balance was prefunding. I'm also curious how you factor in negative marks in your capital return capabilities. I know at least S&P Capital cares about that.

François Morin

Well, I mean, part 1, no question, yes, we talked about it last quarter. The debt raise in June, you're right, had about $1.1 billion of incrementally new capital effectively that we earmarked for general corporate purposes and share buybacks being one of those. The buybacks in the third quarter, where does it come from exactly? It's all the same pot of money, right? But you're right, that certainly helped kind of help support the buybacks in the third quarter.

Our debt to leverage -- debt-to-capital ratio is still very low. We've got a debt maturing in December that will reduce it further, $500 million that will be redeemed or repaid back in December. So we're still in a very, very low leverage position in terms of debt to capital. So in terms of -- again, people ask about M&A, and we got capacity here. So we're -- and we want to maintain that capacity. It's just that we ended up effectively being at a -- we felt a level that was probably a little bit too conservative pre this debt issuance. So we're still in a very good spot. And discussions with the rating agencies, they are, I'd say, very supportive of our approach and our philosophy around capital management.

So right now, no concerns and the mark-to-market, I mean, our mark-to-market, the question part B on more on the move in interest rates, I think the impact for us was noticeable, obviously, in the third quarter, but not in a material way that we have like issues that we have to think about.

Tracy Benguigui

Yes. Understood. I have a big picture question. Arch is known for cycle management. But in the last soft cycle, you were much smaller and perhaps more nimble. So how should we expect you navigate this soft cycle? Is it fair to assume maybe a less intense push on nonrenewals?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So on the reinsurance side, I would say, yes. But again, we have different tools today that we had back then. I think if you look at our gross number and ceded number and net number on the reinsurance side, a large portion of our premium is already ceded to sidecars or third-party capital. So I think for us, the philosophy is to really manage the net portfolio and ultimately stay in front of our clients. We have a leadership position and really figuring out and working with third-party capital, which I mentioned have lower cost of capital to be able to solve -- find solutions for our cedents and brokers. So that's how we see it.

Tracy Benguigui

And on the insurance side?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Insurance side, I think it's a little different because our brand is a our relationship with distribution partners is a lot more relevant than it was probably 5 or 6 years ago, I think. So I think we -- and there is a flight to quality in terms of the company our distribution partner wants to trade with. So we're benefiting from that. And the solution we provide and the -- I think it is a lot more data analytical work that we've done to manage our portfolio, it's a lot more granular.

So I think we can maintain margin by just attacking a small portion of the business that is the worst part of any one portfolio. So I think we are much more granular in terms of our approach. I don't expect that managing the cycle in the next 3 or 4 years will mean cutting large portions of our business on the insurance side. I think it will be more being very laser focused on the worst business in our -- each of our portfolio and making sure that we change the mix towards business in that portfolio that have a better loss ratio. That's how we see it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Meredith with UBS.

Brian Meredith

Just quickly here, Francois. On the Iran conflict premiums that you had in the quarter, the marine stuff, I'm assuming that as long as the war is going on, you're still writing that business. So should we expect you'll see similar benefits in the fourth quarter from that? Or is the business just not as profitable as you maybe think it is and maybe you're dialing it back?

François Morin

No, you should absolutely expect similar levels in the fourth quarter. Beyond that, I mean, it will be a function of -- we just have to watch the news and you'll get a sense, but no question that the business is still priced very -- we think, at a very attractive level. I mean, there's inherent risk in that business. We get it. We understand it. Nicholas touched on it. I mean we're doing it carefully. But in terms of the amount of premium that we expect to write in the fourth quarter, I would expect a similar amount.

Brian Meredith

Makes sense. And then second question, just bigger picture. We're hearing -- continue to hear a lot about business moving from the non-admitted market to the admitted markets. I'm just curious, are you seeing that happening yourself? Obviously, you got non-admitted and admitted. And then when that happens, is that good or bad for you all if I think about going from non-admitted to admitted?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So anecdotally, we hear that. We hear some of our wholesale brokers when they lose an account and we lose the account complaining that it stayed with the retailer. So they found an admitted market. And it's true on property and real estate, and it's true on casualty. But we don't have a good line of sight into specific numbers. But certainly, we're hearing more of it.

So for us, I think we write very different -- we have very different channels. So we -- certain products we write on an E&S basis, certain products we write on the retail basis. So I think when the wholesaler lose the business to the retail market, I think it hurts our E&S franchise. For those particular risk, I don't think we pick them up on the retail side because we don't want channel conflict.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bob Huang with Morgan Stanley.

Unknown Analyst

This is Sid on for Bob. One more question on the Iran conflict. I know you guys mentioned it impacted the cat losses in insurance, too. I was wondering if you could give us a sense of what was the like premium and the like cat loss dollar amounts in that?

François Morin

Well, I mean, it's a lot less on the loss side, the $230 million or so of cat losses, it's a lot less than half of that number in the quarter. We don't disclose individual numbers by event. So I mean that's how we think about it. And in terms of premium, again, I pointed you -- there is some premium on the reinsurance side that we're getting also given our reinsurance structures of some syndicates at Lloyd's.

So we're picking that up, but that's smaller, but more -- the bigger impact is on insurance, and I pointed you to the volume or the premium numbers in the supplement in the international kind of line of business for short-tail property. So that's kind of how you can get a sense of the amount of business we wrote there.

Unknown Analyst

Okay. And then a follow-up just on capital management. do you have any thoughts on continuing or accelerating share repurchases for the quarter versus potentially doing another special dividend?

François Morin

I mean, at this point, given the stock price, I think we're certainly more in favor or I think share buybacks make more sense to how we think about returning capital. So that would be the preferred approach at this point. And at the pace, again, we touched on it earlier. I think there's no set kind of number that we try to get to. It's a reaction a little bit to the stock price and what we see in the market. So could it go up? Could it go down? I mean we don't know. I mean, ultimately, it will be something that happens over time.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Zaremski with BMO.

Michael Zaremski

Maybe first, kind of a macro question, given you guys have a bird's eye view into a lot of markets. In terms of kind of data center-related premiums, a couple of industry executives have talked about kind of $10 billion net new insurance premiums in the marketplace this year and likely to grow in the future. Just kind of curious if from your vantage point, you're seeing an opportunity there and you think that the opportunity is really indeed that large.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So yes, I think the number -- talking to the major brokers and if you look at what they're write and sum them up. I think it sounds right, around EUR $10 billion new business. For us, it's an opportunity, but it's a big opportunity. I think we write it at our London office. And so we have a construction team there that participate on some of the -- lead some of the panels, but premium-wise, I don't think it's a game changer for us.

Michael Zaremski

Got it. And follow-up on some of your playing offense, and I know you've been playing a bit of offense in E&S casualty a while. Is that more like small account or middle? I think you said it's not large. Just kind of curious what sandbox that is.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Yes. So it's not the national accounts, like the big chains or the big retailers or the -- we are more in the, I would say, middle market. I think the accounts are our average account premium is in the hundreds of thousands. So I think it's not small. We're not competing with the binding authority or the small E&S. I think we are we are more in the middle market, and I think our insured are the construction company, the energy companies, but not the contractors, but not the really national retail accounts.

Michael Zaremski

Got it. And maybe just sneaking one last one in, probably an easy one. But reinsurance margins continue to be excellent, especially on an underlying loss ratio basis. If the consensus is right that reinsurance pricing continues to decelerate or decline. Just the -- should we just continue to expect the underlying loss ratio to kind of glide path up from low 60s to mid-60s. I know there's lots of moving parts there, but directionally.

François Morin

Yes. I mean it certainly -- it should go up. I think just the reality of like rates coming down a little. I don't think it's going to it's going to -- it's big like that. It's not going to be a stair step. It's going to happen gradually and maybe it plateaus, if rates going to stabilize. But yes, I mean, it probably could go up. Couple of hundred basis points maybe over the next little while. I mean depending again on how -- I mean, 1/1 renewals will have an impact, et cetera. And then the mix obviously is always part of the answer.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Meyer Shields with KBW.

Meyer Shields

I just had a couple of quick questions. One, corporate expense is only $22 million in the quarter. Is there anything unusual there?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

Well, again, the RTCs being a quarter over -- year-over-year, that's part of the answer, right? No question that we didn't have QRTC credits in Q3 of '25. We had them this quarter. So that's most of it. There's also a variety of expenses that we had last year, consulting, et cetera. So I mean it's too many to list, but the big item this quarter was definitely QR TCs. And again, that's sustainable. So as you look forward, something to think about.

Meyer Shields

Okay. Perfect. And second, does the rising interest rate environment have any implications for loss trends for short tail lines?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

I would say it's neutral because the rate is applied to the values on the shorter lines. So if the underwriter does a good job or the broker does a good job, total -- some insured should be adjusted to reflect the inflation. It's never perfect. So there's as inflation step up, they may be momentarily an adjustment that we make to estimate the catch-up that needs to happen for the replacement cost. But I think it's not a big factor, I think, except in transition time.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Hartwell with Autonomous Research.

Christopher Hartwell

A couple of quick ones. First of all, just on reinsurance. Think into and post Monte Carlo, the brokers have been increasingly talking about the need for reinsurers to take more frequency. I think given what we've seen on pricing over the course of this year, I was wondering if your views on how much scope there is for the reinsurance industry collectively and also your attitude to accepting that increased frequency.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So we don't have an issue with frequency. The -- I think we have to recognize that it's harder to price and severity and for us, we are agnostic as long as we get paid for the risk we take. So we do a lot of sublayers. We used to do it, and we still do some -- so yes, I think what the brokers have been talking about is selling more suppliers with pricing going up, attachment point have raised up. And so there is an opportunity to bring the attachment point of the program down. And I think we will support that as long as we get paid for the risk.

Christopher Hartwell

Okay. And secondly, just on some of the new law that's been around one of your equity investments as in recent weeks. I wondered if you could just, I guess, remind me of your sort of thoughts and views around that specific investment and how -- I guess, how important that relationship is to [indiscernible]

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

It's very important. I think we actually love the investment. I think we -- it's been good to us to -- so we -- there's nothing to complain. And we like the business. I think we like the business. We like the management team there, the CEO. We have a lot of confidence in their ability and they've done a great job. They were really the #3 players. And I think now they're probably competing to be the #1 player in the space. So I think we I think it's -- we like it a lot.

François Morin

Yes. I think the structure, people, yes, it's an investment, but we think of it as a quota share on a top-notch credit insurer. So it's almost slightly different structure, but the results have been terrific, and we're very happy with it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Yaron Kinar with Mizuho.

Yaron Kinar

First one, hopefully, a quick one. Just with the rides that we've seen in France and across Europe, I just want to confirm that, that should not really drive any significant losses for the industry and effort?

François Morin

Yes. I mean, for us, yes, in the industry as well, I think our understanding is it's -- I mean, it's de minimis. I mean I've seen numbers about, call it, $1 billion, I mean it could be ongoing. It seems like every Saturday, the French get together to protect a bit more, but it's not something we do it in a big way. So it's -- for us, I wouldn't expect anything material in the fourth quarter on that.

Yaron Kinar

Okay. And then my second question, maybe a little unfair to ask or difficult to answer, but I'll try anyway. With the appetite that you guys still have in casualty, particularly in reinsurance, it does stand out a bit relative to what we're hearing from other executives in the. Just trying to figure out why that would be.

I mean, ultimately, it is a fairly -- my assumption is that the terms and conditions and the pricing doesn't really fluctuate a whole lot from when reinsured for the other. So what is it that allows you to see this as a more attractive liability or risk than others? Is it that you have a lower cost of capital? Are there other parameters that I'm missing here?

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

No, I think it's a better loss experience than our competitors. I think we did unwrite a lot of casualty back in the 50s, 60s, 70s. We started to write a bit more and in 2021. But ultimately, our loss pick haven't really moved. And so that gives us confidence that we have the right terms and condition on the reinsurance, supporting the book of business that closer to what we do on the insurance side, I think it's good business.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Motemaden with Evercore ICI. Please go ahead.

David Motemaden

Just a quick one on the insurance underlying loss ratio. If I just sort of assume that, I guess, all of the improvement year-on-year is coming from Iron incremental premiums, it was basically flat year-on-year at 57.5%, which is up quite a bit versus the first couple of quarters, which I know there's seasonality, but you had also improved the loss ratio year-on-year in the first half versus roughly flat in 3Q. So I'm wondering if there's anything else underneath that? Or if it's just purely a mix dynamic?

François Morin

Yes. I mean, we -- again, I mean, we would steer you to look at trailing 12 months. I think that's certainly how we look at it. There's always going to be some noise on quarter good or bad, and that influences the latest. So yes, this quarter might be a little bit elevated. There's a couple of claims here and there. But I mean our view is like what we've done last 12 months, even if you adjust for the Iran conflict is, call it, it's been flattish in terms of like compared to a year ago and given that we'll have some of the underwriting actions we've taken with programs as we look forward, we'd like to think range that we're talking about in terms of ex cat accident unit loss ratio is kind of generally in the right direction for '27.

Operator

I'm not showing any further questions. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Nicolas Papadopoulo, for closing remarks.

Nicolas Alain Papadopoulo

So thank you for your time today. And I want to remind you that you're all invited to our 25th anniversary we are ringing the bell at the NASDAQ in a few weeks. So we hope to see you there. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference.

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